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Rob Knop earned a PhD in Physics from Caltech in 1997, and did a 5-year post-doc with the Supernova Cosmology Project, and contributed to the discovery of the accelerating Universe. He was an assistant professor of Physics & Astronomy at Vanderbilt for 6 years before scattering out of academia. He now works for Linden Lab, the producers of Second LIfe. (Note: this is not an official site of Linden Lab! Although I work for Linden Lab, all content in this blog is posted without the review or approval of Linden Lab. All statements and opinions expressed here are my own.)

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Irritation: opaque press releases

Category: RantThe Business of Astronomy
Posted on: May 8, 2007 6:41 PM, by Rob Knop

I'd love to write something about the biggest-ass supernova ever observed, confirmed to be "something new" based on Chandra observations. There is a press release about it here.

Alas, my web-fu has not been good enough yet to turn up an actual preprint or scientific article. The press release says that the paper will appear in the Astrophysical Journal (ApJ, pronounced "ap jay", to those of us in the biz). That generally means the paper is accepted. Alas, I could not find the preprint on the arxiv.org preprint server. I hope that it's just a timing issue, and that the preprint will show up in a day or two. Or, if anybody knows where I can get my hands on a preprint, please point me (and the world) to it.

The press release sounds pretty cool, but one of my pet peeves is when there are press releases (which, I know from personal experience, get filtered through PR people and as such are at least as much marketing as they are the presentation of scientific results) without the corresponding meaty journal article.

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Maybe astro-ph/0612617?

Posted by: Mike | May 8, 2007 7:30 PM

I was trying to look up the pair-instability, but couldn't find anything available to non-members. I know it has to do with electron-positron pairs created from gamma-ray photons, but beyond that I could find nothing. I can think of two possible mechanisms:
pair production and consumption leaks energy from the star via neutrinos, are any created?
I would expect the electrons/positrons to reach equilibrium with the gas, so all we really have is a change in the heat capacity of a radiation pressure gas, as temperatures become high enough to allow a significant concentration of the electrons/positrons.
I bet you know -or can quickly find out -hopefully explaining how that can destabilize the star.

Posted by: bigTom | May 8, 2007 7:31 PM

Mike -- that's on the same SN, but is the optical discovery (not the Chandra data that goes along with the press release).

And, yeah, I should probably write about that, since it's pretty cool already :)

-Rob

Posted by: Rob Knop | May 8, 2007 7:34 PM

Funny, I was just having this very conversation with a colleague. I remember 2006gy as being something of an issue last year, but this PR caught me off guard. I'm getting email, but without a journal paper to read, what can I say? I dislike doing science by press release!

Posted by: Phil Plait, aka The Bad Astronomer | May 8, 2007 8:11 PM

What gets me about this timing is that AAS is in 3 weeks ... why not associate the PR with that?

Posted by: mollishka | May 8, 2007 9:01 PM

Here you go: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0612617

I only happened to have it because I'm in the UT Astronomy Dept and we're currently bragging on Robert for the initial discovery. :) I had a group of school kids in today and they were all curious about it, even though they were only 3rd graders!

Posted by: Lara | May 8, 2007 9:33 PM

I should have added that it looks like the paper that I linked to is an updated version of the original paper and now includes the Chandra observations.

This was the comment with the abstract:
Comments: 13 pages, 5 color figs. submitted to ApJ. greatly expanded from previous version, but with original conclusions unchanged

Posted by: Lara | May 8, 2007 9:55 PM

Lara -- ah, thanks! I didn't realize that the paper was updated.

One of these years, PR flaks are going to figure out that including an astro-ph number with press releases is good PR for us nerd bloggers who might spread the word....

Lara -- are you a prof at UT? Grad student? Something else?

-Rob

Posted by: Rob Knop | May 8, 2007 10:22 PM

I'm a 'something else'. :)

I got my Bachelor's in Astronomy at UT in 94 and I was accepted to a grad school who only had money for one new student but accepted 8 or so of us and basically told us we could come but we'd have to cover all our own costs. I had a chance to continue to work here at UT, so I just stayed. I mainly do outreach and instructional technology stuff now, but I get to keep up with things and I get to play with a 16-inch telescope and a heliostat!

Posted by: Lara | May 8, 2007 10:44 PM

Did you notice how many news sources reused the "Artist's Impression" without labeling it as such?

Posted by: csrster | May 9, 2007 7:08 AM

Maybe there is no paper because they think the supernova was powered by cold fusion.

Posted by: Lab Lemming | May 9, 2007 10:03 AM

Is this the URL to the preprint? http://xxx.lanl.gov/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0612/0612617v2.pdf

You can read about it in my astroblog (OK, it's Dutch. Long live bablefish): http://www.astroblogs.nl/2007/05/08/chandra-ziet-helderste-supernova-ooit/

Posted by: Adrianus V | May 9, 2007 4:07 PM

The mainstream press did a poor job with this story because they could not locate any dazed victims into whose faces could be shoved a microphone and the question: "how do you FEEL about the total destruction of your solar system?"

Posted by: Jonathan Vos Post | May 9, 2007 5:08 PM

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