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Congressman Bart Stupak has helped tank the Medicare +5% reimbursement plan and single payer (italics mine):
The problem with an amendment strategy [for Medicare +5% and single-payer] is that the House leadership will likely not allow many, if any, amendments to be offered on the House floor. The reason is because of Bart Stupak, who is trying to defeat the entire bill by rounding up 40 House Democrats to demand that none of the insurance plans receiving subsidies in the exchange are allowed to cover abortions. If such an amendment passes--and the leadership believes that it would if offered on the floor--then the entire bill goes down to defeat, since it will lose the votes of dozens of pro-choice Democrats. As such, the leadership is going not going to allow any amendments, and make Stupak's only move to try and prevent the bill from going to the floor at all. It is unlikely he will succeed.
Thanks for nothing, asshole.
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And just to make it clear - Stupak's demands, if passed into law, would mean that many private plans which do now provide abortion coverage would drop it, thereby cutting off millions of women from a legally and popularly supported option and extending the reach of the anti-choice movement into American lives.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | October 30, 2009 6:57 PM
ugh. Don't get me started.
IF a universal health care plan is enacted (which I oppose in its present form in Congress) why would abortion be treated differently than any other form of birth control?
Where the mother's health is threatened, I have not a single argument against abortion... yet, where the mother's health would be restored after a live delivery, I find no good argument for abortion.
As it stands now - it seems to be the mother's choice whether a baby delivered or aborted late term survives. That is, IMHO, wrong. If the baby can take a breath on its own, I think that gives it the right to life. Perhaps I misunderstand abortion laws (and I would welcome information to help me understand.)
Posted by: Donna B. | October 30, 2009 9:58 PM
And... while I am unwilling to support a universal health care plan, as currently presented, I am willing to support a universal health care plan for premature babies born alive.
Posted by: Donna B. | October 30, 2009 10:00 PM
Donna B.: The fact that you even ask why abortion needs to be treated differently then birth control demonstrates that you don't understand jack shit about a) medicine b)personal autonomy c)woman's rights d) reproductive rights. If you can think of one SINGLE case where an abortion is medically necessary then you should see why this fuckwit Stupak requires a resection to keep his head out of his ass. I can't think of a single reason a condom would be a medical necessity. I do however know that there are a number of ways a pregnancy can become non-viable making an abortion the safest option.
As for your "I am unwilling to support a universal health care plan, as currently presented, I am willing to support a universal health care plan for premature babies born alive." please gdiaf you psychopathic asshat. You are either a Poe, or you exemplify the inherent fuckheadedness of the pro-life movement. Jesus loves the little zygotes indeed.
Posted by: Robert S. | November 1, 2009 3:36 AM
Donna: It isn't the pregnant woman's choice* whether to late term abort or not. Late term abortions are only done when it would be dangerous for the mother to carry the foetus to term, or when the foetus isn't viable (abortion is safer than delivery, and often a lot less horrible for the woman). From what I understand of the processes in the US anyway (I'm not an American). There are stories from the late Dr Tiller where he said he denied late-term abortions to women who wanted one when it wasn't medically indicated.
*I suppose it is the pregnant woman's choice in that if she would prefer to carry to term despite all this, she can.
So please, stop with the "oh the poor little premmies!" arguments.
Posted by: Katherine | November 1, 2009 7:17 PM