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Motl off his rocker

Category: Blogs
Posted on: August 7, 2006 12:36 PM, by Kevin Vranes

I missed this while I was on vacation. I posted this little innocuous piece about a rare storm over the Czech Republic. I gave a photo of the storm and this very short paragraph:

This crazy pic comes via EUMETSAT and I found out about it via J. Heming of the UK Met Office. It's a severe thunderstorm that developed a circulation and briefly developed an eye-like structure (generally only hurricane-size storms have true eye walls, AFAIK). Severe convective storms developing rotational circulation is not unheard of over land, but I think convection organizing to the point of eye-like development is pretty rare. Heming estimated the system at only 50-100 miles across.

Obviously nowhere did I mention or even imply climate change. If I was thinking climate change I could have added the post to one of my climate or climate change related categories, but I only placed it in my "Weather" category. Because that's what it is -- weather.

I can only surmise that Luboš Motl got my use of the word "rare" confused with "this proves the world is ending and humans are the cause of it" because he posted this piece on his blog. "Rare" is the only word in my post I can even guess might be taken as suggestive of the fish Motl is trolling for.

Finding that post gave me reason to peruse the rest of Luboš' site. Motl has apparently decided that Climate Science Nation is garbage. This includes anybody so stupid to believe that climate change might be anthropogenic in origin. To support his notion that climate science is all bullshit, Motl attacks numerous people on a scale ranging from mild to vicious. It's certainly his right to come to this conclusion, and even to attack people with which he disagrees, but Luboš seems to be so driven to dog on anybody connected to a view that climate change could be anthropogenic that he has to create tempests out of thin air. I guess he hasn't read this blog very closely.

Of course the irony here is that Motl fancies himself "the best theoretical physics blog[ger] that the search engine can offer you" and doesn't suffer fools well. "Fools" here is a container for all scientists (and sciences) that do not rise to his expectations for ... what? ... thoroughness? knowledge of statistics? It's hard to tell, but Motl makes a fool of himself by trying to turn a post in which I never even mention (or think about, really) climate change into a rant against me for "predict[ing] that the global warming judgement day [is] coming to the Czech Republic." Nice work, science boy. Does it matter that I got the picture off a list in which the majority of atmospheric science expert members seem to be much more on your side of the climate change "debate" than on the Al Gore side?

In light of this, let me give you a piece of advice, Luboš: Don't antagonize people you'd probably find common ground with if you did your homework.

Comments

# 1 | PZ Myers [TypeKey Profile Page] | August 7, 2006 4:19 PM

I really hope Motl's physics is first rate (I'm not qualified to judge), because in everything else he seems to be a certifiable loon.

# 2 | kevin v | August 7, 2006 4:37 PM

yea. seeing even more of his stuff, the word "bonehead" comes to mind.

# 3 | John Fleck | August 7, 2006 9:44 PM

I have used Motl in the past as a poster child for unproductive discourse in which one simply assumes that one's opponent is venal, or stupid, or both, rather than actually engaging their argument:

http://www.inkstain.net/fleck/?p=1122

# 4 | kevin v | August 7, 2006 9:48 PM

yea - unfortunately I have to agree with Coby in the comments to that post

# 5 | Tim Lambert | August 7, 2006 11:36 PM

Lubos manages to get lots of stuff wrong. Here it's economics. (Plus he shows up with a sock puppet in comments.)

# 6 | Brian S. | August 8, 2006 1:15 PM

Motl's best "work" was anonymously creating a wikipedia entry for James Annan that trashed JA's reputation. Very classy.

Annan trumped him by finding the entry funny, and not caring the least.

# 7 | Lubos Motl | August 9, 2006 11:24 AM

If you did not write that the "hurricane" was a special example of exceptional weather events caused by evil capitalists, you certainly meant it. Your fellow idiots write these things thousands times a day - including far left wing morons such as everyone who has contributed comments above me. See e.g. 884 recent articles found by Google about the hypothetical hurricane - global warming links.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=hurricane+%22global+warming%22

People on the left are mad, you are one of them, PZ Myers and similar idiots are others, and I could enumerate hundreds of such irrational bigots. We are literally flooded by them.

# 8 | kevin v | August 9, 2006 1:12 PM

Jesus. It amazes me that you're at Harvard, but I suppose that's more of a reflection on Harvard than anything. It also amazes me to be called "on the left," especially when I have other people calling me righty, Libertarian, and a staunch moderate. I guess you can't please everybody.

FWIW, if you'd actually bother to read my work, you'd find me generally on the "skeptical" side of the hurricane-global warming link, which included a scathing review on Prometheus of the Webster et al. Science paper that started all this hurricane-AGW business. Which is why I put the last line in the post above. But at this point I can only conclude that you'd rather be a "hear what you want to hear" type than a reasonable, open-minded scientist.

The usage of "bigot" is curious. I've seen more invective and personal attack on your site than any other I've visited.

take care

# 9 | Davis | August 9, 2006 3:59 PM

you certainly meant it...

Kevin, you see, Lubos is so smart that he knows what you're thinking better than you do.

# 10 | kevin v | August 9, 2006 9:58 PM

I get that feeling. Maybe because he's Czech and I have Serbian ancestry and there's some historical regional domination of the Czechs over the Serbs that I don't know about. Or maybe he has a more favorable astrological chart than I and everybody else around here. Or reads into the tarot to understand my political stances? Many posibilities here.

# 11 | Tim Lambert | August 10, 2006 2:42 AM

Lubos was called to testify in a lawsuit which contested the claims of String Theory against Quantum Loop Gravity. The lawyer was skeptical. "What makes you such an authority?" he asked. "Oh, I am without question the world's most outstanding theoretical physicist", was the startling reply. It was enough to convince the lawyer to change the subject. However, when the witness came off the stand, he was surrounded by protesting colleagues.

"How could you make such an outrageous claim?" they asked. Lubos defended, "Fellows, you just don't understand; I was under oath."

(Stolen from Leon Lederman.)

# 12 | Hans | March 6, 2007 12:18 PM

I have seen this kind of mental block before with people who lived in communist countries. They attack anything liberal, I guess it invokes in them bad memories. I've basically written off Motl as another communist casualty, poor guy.

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