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Tiktaalik art

Category: Science
Posted on: April 6, 2006 9:33 AM, by PZ Myers

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I just put of copy of "Embrace your inner fish" outside my office door. I want it on a T-shirt now.

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#1

Posted by: BronzeDog | April 6, 2006 9:58 AM

Love it... Been thinking about getting some kind of 3D Aquarium program for my new PC. Maybe I should try to find a way to stick that critter in one of those.

#2

Posted by: tng | April 6, 2006 10:06 AM

I really enjoy Ray Troll's art, but Embrace Your Inner Fish has got to be his best one yet.

#3

Posted by: Max Udargo | April 6, 2006 10:30 AM

Man. Some of these artistic types sure can work fast...

#4

Posted by: NJ | April 6, 2006 10:31 AM

Hey, Neil Shubin is our Sigma Xi banquet speaker this term (T 4/25)!

Nyaa-nyaa!

#5

Posted by: craig | April 6, 2006 10:40 AM

I don't understand the hand on the left coming from outside the frame...?

Saw an exhibition of Ray Troll's art once in a museum in SF (or was it Oakland?)... the colors are amazing when you see them in person.

#6

Posted by: Dawn | April 6, 2006 11:19 AM

I SO want the t-shirt, if one is available and so does my daughter.....

#7

Posted by: justawriter | April 6, 2006 11:24 AM

Well the good news is that AOL's link to the Tiktaalik story in the NYT was titled "Fossil Undercuts Creationism". The bad news is that the omnipresent AOL poll has 44% of respondents favoring bible stories over the fossil record. Depressing, but at least a majority went with the bones.

#8

Posted by: AJ Milne | April 6, 2006 11:27 AM

Nothwithstanding that it's got some odd resonances with the modern-day Wilferforce-esque loons still muttering 'I didn't come from no ape', I really liked 'Mom', too. I'm fairly sure my real Mom wouldn't be too hurt. If anyone out there is talking to Mr. Troll 'bout doing some silkscreening, I say it's gotta be on the list, too.

#9

Posted by: plucky punk | April 6, 2006 12:47 PM

I think I'm creeped out by the mysterious hand coming out of the left side of the frame. Makes me want to glance down at my arm to make sure there's not a hand on it.

#10

Posted by: Judas | April 6, 2006 1:02 PM

You guys want a T-Shirt out of that? Ask Ray Troll to open up a cafepress shop:

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/makemoney

#11

Posted by: Tara Mobley | April 6, 2006 1:59 PM

Yeah, I could see that on a t-shirt. It would be a pretty cool one too.

#12

Posted by: Mike Nilsen | April 6, 2006 2:27 PM

I think that fish is just a bit too phallic for me to embrace.

#13

Posted by: eric | April 6, 2006 2:40 PM

He sells shirts already, and they're much higher quality than those available if he went to Cafepress. I wrote him expressing an interest in seeing the Tiktaalik designs on shirts. If you'd buy a shirt, let him know there's demand for them.

#14

Posted by: D. Sidhe | April 6, 2006 2:48 PM

My favorite will always be his "Fish Worship: Is It Wrong".

#15

Posted by: The Brummell | April 6, 2006 3:32 PM

I like his stuff, too. Never seen it before.

Calling the one picture "Mom" brought to my mind Jack Chick's poster shown here a few days ago, which includes a gorilla statue titled "Our Father" on the far right.

Which makes me wonder: do the cretinists typically focus on paternal lineages, at the expense of ignoring maternal lineages? Has anyone actually plowed through all those "begat"s in the bible, looking for mother-daughter links?

#16

Posted by: Azkyroth | April 6, 2006 5:57 PM

"Which makes me wonder: do the cretinists typically focus on paternal lineages, at the expense of ignoring maternal lineages? Has anyone actually plowed through all those "begat"s in the bible, looking for mother-daughter links?"

I don't recall seeing any...

#17

Posted by: Chris S | April 6, 2006 5:57 PM

I like the Tiktaalik photo in the New York Times.
The reconstruction is, basically, cartoony ... The way he lifts himself off the stream floor with his fins; the wide, pessimistic snout ... And the beady little eyes on top of his head are a strong reminder of Gary Larson.

The new debate brewing in America is, whether to take comic strips to be the whimsical, exaggerated stories that the "evolutionists" would have us believe ... or whether they are the scientific truth. They'll call it evolutionists vs. cartoonists.

#18

Posted by: Beth | April 7, 2006 2:48 AM

You should write Ray and ask him to get that pic on his shirts - he's really nice. He sent me a .jpg of Vampyroteuthis Infernalis that he drew once.

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