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Fascist cowards

These are policemen who do not understand their obligations as officers of the law. These are policemen who ought to be summarily dismissed from their jobs.

They won’t be.

(via The Lippard Blog)

Comments

  1. #1 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    that is, regrettably, a pretty general condition of cops the world over.

    I’m glad you made that point. It’s nothing inherent in police within the US. It’s inherent in the hiring practices used for police throughout the world; it’s inherent in the majority of people who apply for the position of police officer to begin with. It’s simply not the case that most who apply for positions in police work do so out of a feeling they need to “protect and serve”. More like, they want a position of authority they can abuse and be justified in doing so.

    My brother once told me when I was a teenager: “Cops are just criminals with badges.” While a bit extreme, I saw his point readily enough.

    If you spend time looking at the history of the trials and tribulations of the Los Angeles PD, you’ll see the problem police forces everywhere face. How do you screen out 90% of the applicants, when you are already so short on manpower to begin with?

    Yes, better screening procedures are certainly underutilized, but there is a reality, just like the military faces, of ever thining manpower resources that have to be bolstered somehow.

    That said, my cousin has been a cop for ten years now, and can truthfully say that the majority of cops are not like what you see here (though surely a significant enough portion of them are).

    I’m just pointing out the complicated nature of this issue, and that the military faces the exact same issues when recruiting.

    Perhaps if more people with legitimate concerns decided they felt the responsibility to their community to “protect and serve”, whether it be in civil service or otherwise, we would have a far smaller proportion of idiots and bigots making up our armed forces and civilian protectorates.

    that goes the same for civil service in the form of government as well.

    ever wonder why congress has become such a sham?

    why “Chimpy McGrin” is our current commander in chief?

    If more people of intelligence and worth chose to step up to the plate to serve in government, or as teachers, or any other branch of civil service… well you get the idea.

  2. #2 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    Guys, I think someone stole your Republic while you were looking the other way.

    when? must have been before I was born. did you happen to catch the 50′s and 60′s? this is small potatoes.

    take a look at the history of your own police force and tell me of it’s angelic nature.

  3. #3 Lycaenops
    August 20, 2006

    Sorry, Ichthyic. I guess it’s just that many of us still look to the US as a beacon of hope. Here, we have no illusions that the police serve us, the public. We are, after all, still only ‘subjects’.

  4. #4 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    I guess it’s just that many of us still look to the US as a beacon of hope.

    let it be a lesson:

    You want a beacon? don’t let somebody else hold your lamp for you.

    Chimpy is just the latest in a long string of idiots who don’t know what they’re doing but want the job anyway.

    the sad thing isn’t that there is no hope, it’s that the damage these idiots do while they have the power to do so is often irreversible.

    However principles of freedom simply can’t be corrupted, only abused and hidden for a time.

    make your own beacon; let your principles be your own beacon, don’t rely on an individual or a government to be a symbol of hope. They are inherently unreliable and easily corrupted.

  5. #5 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    It is more complicated than that. Even if they do, it can be impossible to get elected.

    …and yet I seriously doubt you are arguing against stacking the odds. You aren’t, are you?

    No, it’s really not that complicated. Yes, there will be losses and gains, and some of that will be random, some not, but if more and more truly qualified people step up, the odds favor improvement.

  6. #6 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    Wow… I couldn’t imagine something like this happening in the USA

    again, this is NOT that uncommmon. worse happened during the protests in the 60′s, and similar things happen on a regular basis every year.

    Did you guys forget about the whole Rodney King incident over there?

    it sure souns like there are simply a lot of illusions about the US that exist that are simply being dispelled because of better media access and the internet.

    such is life.

  7. #7 Ichthyic
    August 20, 2006

    How threatening can a middle-aged woman in a red suit BE for fuck’s sake?

    I’m not sure… does Coulter ever wear red suits?

    talk about an excuse for peppering somebody with rubber bullets…

  8. #8 KiwiInOz
    August 21, 2006

    Hey there Ichthyic,

    I was going to say that the NZ cops aren’t too bad (at least they don’t carry weapons as a matter of course), but then I remembered the Red Squad in action during the 80′s protests against apartheid in South Africa (and the against the Springboks coming to play the All Blacks).

    Scratch a uniform wearer with authority and you’ll find either someone with fascist tendancies or someone trying to do good against the machine.

    You are right about holding one’s own moral beacon/compass, however the good ole US does have a tendancy to promote itself as the judge, jury and executioner of morality, democracy, and good taste in movies (think Snakes on a plane!).

  9. #9 Ichthyic
    August 21, 2006

    think Snakes on a Plane???

    ouch.

    there, i just thought of it.

    now i have to scrub my brain with copious amounts of alcohol.

    happy now?
    ;)

    as to the US…

    moral beacons are fickle things. How the US advertises itself entirely changes depending on who’s the acting CEO.

    Didn’t you get the last company memo?

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