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Posted on: October 13, 2006 6:00 AM, by PZ Myers
Frolic in the comments. Put those hankies down!
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Old joke:
Villager: "That's Morris dancing."
Perplexed tourist: "er... which one is Maurice?"
Posted by: Tony Jackson | October 13, 2006 6:17 AM
Huzzzah! Morris Men! Where are all the wenches?
Posted by: sleepyinsaudi | October 13, 2006 6:20 AM
Someone dropped dead doing that in the market place here last year. The others thought for a little, then resumed their performance. He would have wanted it, they explained.
Posted by: Andrew Brown | October 13, 2006 6:44 AM
Get yourself to Borough Market, just behind London Bridge tube station, about noon on Saturday if you're still here - all the morris dancers you could ever want and then some.
Posted by: Joe | October 13, 2006 6:59 AM
Now here's a question for evolution. Did Square Dancing evolve from Morris Dancing, or was it irreducible complexity requiring a designer? Well, the callers act like they think they're god.
Posted by: Richard Harris | October 13, 2006 7:22 AM
make them stop.
please
Posted by: michael | October 13, 2006 10:46 AM
Hey, PZ -- where'd you get the video of a gay marriage ceremony?
Posted by: Warren | October 13, 2006 10:47 AM
I once got chased around the UEA students' union by some Morris dancers during Freshers' week: they wanted me to join (I think it was the beard). The big sticks are a bit worrisome.
Of course, only southern pansies do Morris dancing. Us Northerners think it's a waste of good drinking time.
Bob
Posted by: Bob O'H | October 13, 2006 10:52 AM
This reminds me of an exchange from the TV series My Hero (quoted here from imperfect memory):
Posted by: Barry Leiba | October 13, 2006 10:56 AM
I like to think of Morris dancing as an English martial art, rather like Kendo but with smaller sticks.
Posted by: Tristram Brelstaff | October 13, 2006 11:34 AM
I agree with Tristram Brelstaff, once at a demo for our local SCA chapter, one of their sticks exploded while they were dancing (probably had a crack and when they whacked two sticks together the weaker one failed), shooing a piece of wood off into the audience. Fortunately we'd all been a bit leary of the big sticks and didn't sit close...
Posted by: Paula Helm Murray | October 13, 2006 1:40 PM
Just wait until they do the Stick and Bucket dance...
Posted by: Graham Douglas | October 13, 2006 2:41 PM
At the risk of lowering the tone but out of duty to my US friends I shall report the (in)famous local saying.
"A man should try everything once. Except *nal sex and Morris dancing"
Now you've seen the video, you know why they're viewed as equivalent.
Ross
Posted by: Ross | October 13, 2006 3:53 PM
In defence of Morris Dancing, in my many years of living in a village in rural england I've witnessed Swan Upping, Maypole Dancing, Cheese Rolling, Well(as in water well) Dressing and a Chimney Sweep Festival.
Oh yeah and don't forget cricket.
Posted by: Chris Hyland | October 13, 2006 4:27 PM
The quote is from Sir Thomas Beecham and it is "A man should try everything once. Except incest and Morris dancing".
Hang-ups about anal sex are another issue entirely.
Posted by: zzz | October 13, 2006 4:34 PM
British humour:
It was the great collector of English folk songs Cecil Sharp who accidentally invented Morris Dancing. One fine summer's day, whilst on his way to a village in the English countryside that he had not previously visited, Cecil drove his Morris Minor motor car onto the village green which served as the villager's cricket pitch. The male inhabitants of the village were all dressed in their cricket whites, and carrying sticks with which they intended to kill a troublesome mole which had been burrowing under their proudly-maintained greensward.
The men were furious at this act of vandalism, and surrounded our Cecil, brandishing their sticks, shouting "Go back", "Whisht with ye" and other such admonishments. Since it was a warm day, most of the men brought out their hankies to mop their perspiring brows, and also to wave at the townie who had driven onto their place of recreation, shouting "Get yoor Morris off of here!"
Cecil being a literal sort of fellow, having seen many strange customs in his travels, duly noted the details of their performance. And thus Morris Dancing was born.
Posted by: JM | October 13, 2006 4:48 PM
So, I guess PZ is marveling at the strange and wondrous customs of far off lands ...
Posted by: Keith Douglas | October 13, 2006 5:28 PM
ZZZ,
I'm sure you're accurate about Thomas Beecham's quotation (thanks for the info) but I did say "local".
Round here incest isn't quite so singular ......allegedly
Ross
Posted by: Ross | October 13, 2006 5:34 PM
Are they just using the handkerchiefs until they get fresh fish to wave around?
Posted by: Colby | October 13, 2006 11:12 PM
Whatever one can say about Morris dancing, it beats ID hands down. Much more creative, far more graceful, and a hell of a lot more disciplined. Dembski, Luskin, Wells, Nelson, et al, could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Posted by: Keanus | October 13, 2006 11:33 PM
"Of course, only southern pansies do Morris dancing. Us Northerners think it's a waste of good drinking time.
Bob"
This is complete codswallop.
Clog-dancing, as originally performed in Lancashire and Yorkshie an Durham is also a form of Morris.
I do both.
Of course, as Terry (P) says, it is usually done outdie Public Houses - followed by a certain amount of alse consumption.
See also:
http://www.filk.co.uk/chingford/photos/moreton.jpg
I'm the one at centre-rear, with the long beard, just behind the musician.
Also
http://www.filk.co.uk/chingford/photos/lvenice2.jpg
On the right....
Posted by: G. Tingey | October 14, 2006 4:34 AM
The quote was Arnold Bax and he said Country dancing!
Posted by: Paul Draper | October 14, 2006 9:01 AM
Graham --
NO ONE is to do the stick and bucket dance ever again.
Sheesh.
Posted by: Ethyl | October 14, 2006 12:46 PM
You know, PZ, there is Morris dancing right here in your very own state of Minnesota. The Twin Cities have at least four active Morris teams, and our own May Day celebration, where over 60 Morris dancers and assorted hangers-on gather at sunrise (6:02 a.m., every year) on a hilltop on the Minneapolis side of the river to greet the spring.
That Morris side was kinda sloppy; their turns and leaps weren't in sync.
Posted by: Norsecats | October 14, 2006 1:48 PM