If you're interested in the DVD that that the creationist Truth in Science group sent out to every teacher in Britain, someone has accidentally made it available as a bittorrent file.
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The Truth in Science DVD
Category: Creationism
Posted on: January 17, 2007 8:14 AM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: TW | January 17, 2007 8:38 AM
Thanks for point this out. It is saddening that the creationist madness has managed to cross over the water to this once very secular isle!
Posted by: Chris Hyland | January 17, 2007 10:22 AM
Its essentially unlocking the mystery of life, which is online here: http://www.theapologiaproject.org/media/unlocking_the_mystery_of_life.ram
Note the scientific sounding name of the hosting site.
Posted by: Rick | January 17, 2007 10:24 AM
It's amazing how they are sometimes pushed against the wall with questions and then end up just repeating whatever they have brain washed themselves to say.
You can see it in this interview:
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=25829
PS: I'm not even going to try and watch that dvd... there's enough going on online to keep me amused.
Posted by: Stefan | January 17, 2007 11:00 AM
Though tempting to avoid the watching of this video, I think that a scientifically based recorded (video, text, blog, etc.) rebuttal could have a much greater impact. Making such accessible over the Internet would then offer many the possibility of simply linking to it, when in need for a consistent reply, to "friends" recommending the original crap.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | January 17, 2007 11:06 AM
Sheesh.
DNA is evidence because we want it to be evidence, not because of anything that is actually ...um...evidence.
yawn
Posted by: James Allen | January 17, 2007 11:11 AM
Torrent appears to be dead
Posted by: vbloke | January 17, 2007 11:20 AM
I'll check that out - it's only just been put up there and not many people are seeding it. I suspect my bandwidth is probably taking a battering.
Posted by: Simon | January 17, 2007 12:10 PM
Interesting how its filed under ' Videos » Conspiracy".
Does the video claim there is a conspiracy? Or is this just the uploader having a giggle?
Posted by: PZ Myers | January 17, 2007 12:16 PM
Yes, I just got a note from the original guy -- he's the only seeder so far, so it's sucked up all of his bandwidth. If anyone else wants to share the load, he'd appreciate it.
Posted by: Chris Hyland | January 17, 2007 1:03 PM
"I think that a scientifically based recorded (video, text, blog, etc.) rebuttal could have a much greater impact. Making such accessible over the Internet would then offer many the possibility of simply linking to it, when in need for a consistent reply, to "friends" recommending the original crap."
We've sort of started to do that here: http://www.justscience.org.uk/tikiwiki-1.9.5/tiki-index.php?page=Truth+In+Science+materials
I've spoken to a couple of people from newspapers and TV stations in the UK who say they have used it in preparing reports on truth in science so that's a good start.
Posted by: vbloke | January 17, 2007 5:16 PM
to save my poor bandwidth, I've started uploading them to YouTube.
The first one can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOiBbxnU9jw
Posted by: Tatarize | January 17, 2007 7:31 PM
Life is really complex.
We found out now that life is more complex.
If you can't remove any part, it's irreducibly complex.
Like a mousetrap.
Bacterial Flagellum are irreducibly complex.
Bacterial Flagellum are just like a motor boat.
Some people say Co-option explains the irreducibly complex nature of the Bacterial Flagellum.
Co-option does not explain it, it is irreducibly complex!
The Bacterial Flagellum can't have evolved.
Darwin said if somebody can show something cannot evolve, his theory is wrong.
The Bacterial Flagellum disproves Darwin.
The Bacterial Flagellum is irreducibly complex.
...
It isn't exactly the cream of the crop, but it may be the cream of the crap.
Posted by: Revyloution | January 18, 2007 9:50 AM
How can this DVD get sent out to all the teachers of England, when the DVD 'The God Who Wasn't There' is blocked from being sent to all the teachers in the US?
Posted by: m | January 18, 2007 11:22 AM
I've been trying to get this but no one is seeding it. I'm in the UK and really wanted to have a copy to show my friends/colleagues at the colleges where I work.
Posted by: vbloke | January 19, 2007 2:16 AM
nobody else was seeding them, so I've had to take it down to save my poor bandwidth.
I've put them up on Google Video
Episode 1: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5314322062525488904
Episode 2: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2825571269067026670
Episode 3: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2933661719967315435
Episode 4: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6240943055301796021
Episode 5: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2697450088015453428
Episode 6: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3010733273010560036
Posted by: Jeff Knapp | January 20, 2007 4:41 PM
As of right now, there are four seeds, and one peer. I am seeding it myself and will continue to do so. I am getting about 100kbs download right now.
Posted by: MartinM | January 20, 2007 6:16 PM
Umm...different countries have different legal systems? Just a thought.
Posted by: Steven | January 23, 2007 12:52 AM
Even to gather information on the enemy I can't watch something I know is complete pish.