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Godlessness bustin’ out all over

Scienceblogs are a hotbed of irreligiosity today. Besides my usual, expected, reflexive contumely (illegal in at least one state!), Aardvarchaeology is hosting the 59th Carnival of the Godless, and Revere rips into CNN’s anti-atheist bias. Sample stupid quote:

Listen, we are a Christian nation. I’m not a Christian. I’m Jewish, but I recognize we’re a Christian country and freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom from religion.

Got that? We are not free to be atheists if we choose, according to Constitutional scholar and moderate voice of reason Debbie Schlussel.

Comments

  1. #1 Dave
    January 22, 2009

    US Constitution, Amendment I:

    CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    This is the key point that many here seem to miss. Like it or not you are swimming in a sea of Christians. These horrible people are largely responsible for the existence of this country and everything in it (for good or naught). The second amendment clearly, in unmistakeable language, says that CONGRESS cannot establish a religion – by which, according to all known correspondence of the time – meant denomination. During that time period every state in the union had its own state religion. This was perfectly acceptable to most of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Paine would probably be the most notable exception. As long as the Federal Government didn’t get involved it was considered to be legitimate for states to do whatever they wanted in terms of esablishing churches or religions or whatever. This was clearly the intent of the Founders.

    To my knowledge there is no document claiming that this is a Christian nation. That being said, it clearly is a country founded by Christians and on largely Christian principles that were obviously “progressive” for the time.

    No, this is not officially a Christian nation. Yes, this was and still is a nation composed largely of Christians all of whom possess the constitutionally protected right to freedom of religious expression (as do all others). Noone has a constitutional right to not be offended by others religious expression. You do have the right to refute it, ignore it, but not to limit it.

  2. #2 Nerd of Redhead
    January 22, 2009

    Dave, keep your religious expressions inside your home and church. Nobody will bother you. Just keep them out of the public sphere. I have freedom from your religion.