Schönborn and the Discovery Institute
Category: Creationism
Posted on: February 9, 2007 9:28 AM, by PZ Myers
Those are two subjects that leave me queasily nauseated, so this time I'll let John Lynch have the honor of poking about in the puke.
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Think of it this way: every time this dimbulb opens his mouth he further undermines the tattered remains of the DI's claims that teaching IDiocy (or the "controversy") would not constitute religious indoctrination.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne | February 9, 2007 9:40 AM
Maybe he doesn't quite get it yet, that the Catholic Church actually did prevent controversies (trumped up or not) from being heard, while nobody is even suggesting the censorship of ID lies. What we don't want is for the Catholic Church (via the Catholic Behe), or any other religion, forcing its ideas to be taught in schools as science.
Sorry for writing something so obvious, it's just that the obvious remains opaque to these theocratic dullards.
Glen D
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Posted by: Glen Davidson | February 9, 2007 11:05 AM
Yes, this is a cardinal who bears watching. As noted in the site to which PZ links, Schönborn is a prelate with his own fan club (T-shirts and everything!), as well as being a darling of the Discovery Institute creationists. I covered some of the background here, in a post relating to the retirement of Father Coyne, the former director of the Vatican Observatory. Father Coyne is a staunch defender of science and evolution, which caused some people to think he was fired because Pope Benny Hex is more ID friendly. I include links to some of Schönborn's stuff.
Posted by: Zeno | February 9, 2007 12:58 PM
That fanclub can't even spell him.
I can't imagine the Pope is ID-friendly. Hasn't he said something in the other direction a year or so ago? (Not loud enough, of course.)
Posted by: David Marjanović | February 9, 2007 5:09 PM
For further information on His Eminence Card: Schônborn.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/056bev7-20-2004.htm
Posted by: john | February 9, 2007 5:25 PM
While John Paul II actually came right out in 1996 and said that "fresh knowledge has led to the recognition that evolution is more than a hypothesis," Benedict XVI has been much more reserved. The current pontiff sees widespread acceptance of evolution (although reasonable in itself) as a potential gateway to increased disbelief in things divine. The mainstream Catholic belief is a kind of theistic evolution: say what you will about the physical development of the human body through evolution (fully countenanced by JP II), the human soul is a divine creation that in no way evolved.
Benedict apparently hesitates over the often exaggerated distinction between micro- and macro-evolution. A good treatment of the pope's views was presented by John Allen, who looked over Benedict's pronouncements on evolution in his pre-pontiff days and wrote an informative essay for the National Catholic Reporter.
Posted by: Zeno | February 9, 2007 5:43 PM
a potential gateway to increased disbelief in things divine.
so science is like pot?
I'm gonna go load up a bowl of science and toke away right now!
Posted by: Ichthyic | February 9, 2007 7:17 PM
@4 Hmm, I can't find any spelling mistakes.
I think Schönborn needs to go to the U.S. to get his words to the people. Here in Austria nobody would be listening. That doesn't mean there are no creationists in Austria, but ID is not so commonly known here.
Posted by: Jürgen R. Plasser | February 9, 2007 7:37 PM
Zeno in your blog article to which you link above you say that Schönborn is German. He's not he was born in Czechoslovakia and grew up in Austria. It's bad enough having Benni the Poppa a German without you wishing Schönborn the IDiot on us as well!
Posted by: Thony C. | February 10, 2007 1:12 PM