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Posted on: February 23, 2007 1:46 PM, by PZ Myers
Greg Laden reminds me that today's Science Friday will feature Ed Humes and Randy Olson talking about educating people about evolution—tune in!
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Posted by: muppt | February 23, 2007 2:52 PM
Son of a BITCH! Fifty weeks out of fifty-two I check to see what's going to be on Science Friday, and on one of the two when I don't check, it has to be this--right while I'm reading "Monkey Girl," and right after having seen "Flock of Dodos"! And in the midst of lively conversations about teaching evolution, to boot. I guess I can catch the podcast. Thanks for drawing this to my attention--I would kick myself if I missed it.
Posted by: Greg Peterson | February 23, 2007 3:43 PM
So far, it's been a good discussion although I still think that Olson does set the scientists up to come off as being arrogant by simple virtue of talking with them over a poker game.
I do disgree with the claim that "intelligent design" can ever be a science, because its conclusion (God Did It) is untestable as it's a supernatural assertion.
Posted by: David Wilford | February 23, 2007 3:54 PM
Well, as expected, it was a pretty good show. Flato holds no brief for the creationists.
We (UMN Anthro ... actually, me and some of the undergrads) are going to organize another screening of Flock of Dodos some time shortly after the DVD arrives ... (ordered today). Probably something small, but I'll post it.
Posted by: Greg Laden | February 23, 2007 3:56 PM
I think we overloaded their server. But maybe this will result in some new members for them. I didn't know about this show nor about the podcasts.
Posted by: Monado | February 23, 2007 5:33 PM
The important point of the NPR discussion was the new tack by IDers[iots], using 'academic freedom' as a guise to get creationism into science classrooms. After a seminar and editorial in a local news paper a year ago, I still receive letters from one particular IDer. My standard first response (to all queries) is a list of about 30 books, review articles, and primary source research papers with the kindly delivered comment to master this material and then we can have an intelligent debate. About a month ago, I received the 'academic freedom' argument. My two page reply, summarized to one sentence: the argument raised is a red herring, the issues with regards to a science class are: relevance, accuracy, and integrity.
Posted by: Mothra | February 23, 2007 6:17 PM
I subscribe to the Science Friday podcast, so if you want to get a back epidode, just get the podcast file from their web site.
Posted by: Curt Cameron | February 24, 2007 12:20 AM
mothra -
interesting.
check this thread out on PT, and tell me if you think Chip Poirot might be testing the new tack described in the discussion:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/02/teachers_opinio.html
Posted by: Ichthyic | February 24, 2007 12:50 AM