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Wells and Cordova get everything wrong

Category: Creationism
Posted on: March 30, 2007 2:36 PM, by PZ Myers

Afarensis takes on both Sal Cordova and Jonathan Wells on the subject of anthropology. Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats and are readily spotted as dishonest kooks when they discuss anything in which their reader has any expertise? I know, I was so surprised myself.

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#1

Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats
I think you're being overly kind, as I'd have them talking out of something a bit lower on their anatomies. ;)

Posted by: Krystalline Apostate | March 30, 2007 2:43 PM

#2

Something else that is round and inappropriate.

Posted by: j | March 30, 2007 3:08 PM

#3
Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats
PZ
I think you're being overly kind, as I'd have them talking out of something a bit lower on their anatomies. ;)
Krystalline Apostate

If their heads are where i think they are, pz was not too far off the mark.

Posted by: eewolf | March 30, 2007 3:09 PM

#4

Post a link, man! I want to see the Sal/Wells smackdown!

Posted by: Leon | March 30, 2007 3:12 PM

#5

Afarensis, where the takedown is.

Posted by: RBH | March 30, 2007 3:15 PM

#6

Both of the links in the article are to Afarensis's site.

Posted by: PZ Myers | March 30, 2007 3:16 PM

#7
If their heads are where i think they are, pz was not too far off the mark.
Which explains why everything they say is so garbled.

Posted by: Krystalline Apostate | March 30, 2007 3:42 PM

#8

j and eewolf - Thank you - I am now thinking of a Jim Carey in certain scene in Ace Ventura, Pet Detective... and if I were going to debate either of these two clowns, I would show the scene to the crowd while they were talking.

Posted by: J-Dog | March 30, 2007 3:43 PM

#9
If their heads are where i think they are, pz was not too far off the mark.

So that is what ass-hat means!

Posted by: Tracy P. Hamilton | March 30, 2007 4:46 PM

#10
So that is what ass-hat means!

Oh. :-)

Posted by: David Marjanović | March 30, 2007 5:38 PM

#11

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Posted by: Cocky Bastard | March 31, 2007 1:53 AM

#12

The funny part is, when fraud occurs in mainstream science it's exposed and denounced *by scientists*, generally pretty quickly. Meanwhile, fraudulent claims from Creationists are not only almost never exposed or denounced by other Creationists, but are generally repeated by Creationists not limited to the perpetrators of the initial fraud on many occasions and for a very long time after being exposed and denounced *by scientists*.

By the way, what does this have to do with elephants in spring?

Posted by: Azkyroth | March 31, 2007 2:09 AM

#13

In other news, I see that at uncommondisdain Denyse O'Leary is now admitting what the folks around here had long suspected: the Johnsonist mob consider the age of the earth to be more a political issue than anything else.

Posted by: Stephen | March 31, 2007 4:50 AM

#14

You can be damn sure there is no fraud in mainstream science.


Creationist/ID Fraud = a for-profit industry with constant stockholder demand for maximum financial growth and market expansion. Enron/TYCO-type management - stockholders look other way in vain anticipation of huge one time dividend.

Scientific Fraud = anomolous and destructive - to be exposed and rooted out with perpetrators punished.


Hmmm, the similarity boggles the mind.

Posted by: jimmiraybob | March 31, 2007 10:17 AM

#15

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Posted by: Banned by 28 Atheist Sites. | March 31, 2007 10:42 AM

#16

Not only that, but there are even strong signs that the original study Wells and Cordova are citing is completely overstated anyhow.

As John Hawks notes this hugely altered reconstruction... consists of changing the angle of the image and an extremely minor alteration in the face.

Posted by: Tatarize | March 31, 2007 3:57 PM

#17

What do creationist troll have against vowels?

On the other hand, it makes them easy to spot and ignore. So keep it up.

Posted by: John Marley | March 31, 2007 8:16 PM

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