Pharyngula

Creationist humor?

Zeno makes an obvious point: creationists have no sense of humor. He singles out this tedious comic strip running on the Answers in Genesis pages, called CreationWise, and of course when anyone thinks of an unfunny religious apologist with a strip, they think of Johnny Hart. But even worse than any of these is Dan Nuckols. Seriously, if you enjoy cartoons, if you have any sense of humor or even an appreciation of the skill it takes to put together an amusing story in a few panels, don’t follow that link; it’s like snorting ammonia, it’ll ruin the flavor of everything for a few days.

Zeno does point out that sometimes they are inadvertently funny, in ways the artist doesn’t intend. This strip doesn’t make any sense from a religious perspective, but it is mildly amusing if you imagine someone like me behind the door.

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Nah, it’s not particularly funny even then. Just true.


OK, since Blake hinted at it, here’s a link to his improved version of the cartoon.

Comments

  1. #1 Dlanod
    April 18, 2007

    I can’t seem to find my creationist glasses anywhere. What is this cartoon supposed to be suggesting?

  2. #2 Jake
    April 18, 2007

    I don’t get it. Like, at all.

    Anyone?

  3. #3 Mark H.
    April 18, 2007

    Christian humour seems about as bad as Christian rock-music.

  4. #4 Rick @ shrimp and grits
    April 18, 2007

    I hate to pile on, but can someone explain the attempt at humor in the strip for those of us who just don’t get it?

    Now if the joke were actually about snorting ammonia … well, that’d be funny.

  5. #5 dale
    April 18, 2007

    A 1% concentration of ammonia in air is immediately fatal.

  6. #6 gregor
    April 18, 2007

    I suppose it’s less humor than a warning – “Don’t even think about opening the door to an old-earth, or it may destroy you and tear up the Bible.”

  7. #7 HP
    April 18, 2007

    Wow. I took a measly 15 minutes to type up my post, and got pipped by half a dozen folks, including our host. Next time, no proofreading.

  8. #8 C
    April 18, 2007

    This guy is a huge nutter.

    Somethingawful did photoshops of these sorts of Creationist comics where the only punchline seems to be “sin cursed world”.

    http://archives.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1357206

    http://archives.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1818822

  9. #9 PZ Myers
    April 18, 2007

    Click on the cartoon and read some of the others in the series. You’ll notice something very interesting: most of them are criticisms of ID creationism. There is a lot of anger there directed at people who believe in a creator God but do not do so because they accept the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

    The schism between AiG and the DI is really deep and vivid there.

  10. #10 Carlie
    April 18, 2007

    I still don’t get it. Why did the monster spit out the Bible? Was the holiness too much for it to handle? Did it taste like old cabbage? Was he using it as bait for the next person to come along? Seems like it would make slightly more sense if only little scraps of paper came out instead of full pages.

  11. #11 llewelly
    April 18, 2007

    Wow. I took a measly 15 minutes to type up my post, and got pipped by half a dozen folks, including our host. Next time, no proofreading.

    And that is one more reason comment quality drops steadily on the more popular forums.

  12. #12 Kristine
    April 18, 2007

    Zeno: (That’s why the artist drew in “Ha!” several times, so that we would understand.) Now, that made me laugh.

    I don’t get it. Like, at all. Anyone?

    It’s funny, see, because they’re watching surgery while eating Chinese food. Oh, wait…that was Buckaroo Bonsai. Sorry.

  13. #13 Laser Potato
    April 18, 2007

    The only thing that I could think of when I read this was…
    “CANDYGRAM!”
    (C’mon, someone ELSE besides me has to have remembered the Land Shark.)

  14. #14 PaulC
    April 18, 2007

    The linked comic made me think of a quip by Raquel Welch on receiving an award that she had been waiting “since One Million Years, B.C.” It’s not even a very memorable quote (so I don’t know why it stuck in my mind) but it makes her look like a comedic genius in comparison.

  15. #15 Scott Simmons
    April 18, 2007

    “Oh, that’s a Bible!”

    Of course it is. What other books are there? ;-)

  16. #16 Robster
    April 18, 2007

    Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Ftaghn!

    That is all.

  17. #17 Scholar
    April 18, 2007

    “A 1% concentration of ammonia in air is immediately fatal.”

    I didn’t inhale…

  18. #18 aiabx
    April 18, 2007

    10 PRINT (“WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT?”)
    20 GOTO 10

  19. #19 Stanton
    April 18, 2007

    On the one hand, these comics are about as ejoyable as this 3 year old Christmas Hershey’s Kiss I once ate.
    On the other hand, the fact that these comics were scripted specifically to be thinly veiled insults against AiG’s enemies, and not to be humorous at all, well…
    Were these people just born with overactive hypocrite and stupidity glands, or did they take special drugs to get this way?

  20. #20 Stanton
    April 18, 2007

    That reminds me, Kristine…
    In light of how these “comics” are just thinly veiled critiquing insults against ID, has anyone bothered to point out to the nice people at AiG about how the Bible ostensibly says “he who claims to know the light but hates his brother is a liar”?

  21. #21 llewelly
    April 18, 2007

    grendelkhan :

    No, really. It’s the bible turning into a sword, and a warning, “which end of it are you on?” How do these people manage to stay in business?

    I guess you don’t live in the US. In America, crazy politicians and activists are constantly telling us If you don’t support our agenda, the Terrorists / Drug Dealers / Communists / Atheists / Homosexuals / Whatever will get you! And for the most part, these people are wildly successful. I think of it as ‘boogey-man politics’ . It’s very popular here.

  22. #22 Blake Stacey
    April 18, 2007

    AJ Milne (#37):

    Superb.

  23. #23 Blake Stacey
    April 18, 2007

    OK, Bronze Dog could have done better, but for a quick hack job, maybe this isn’t so bad.

    Thanks, AJ Milne — if gratitude is the appropriate emotion. . . .

  24. #24 PaulC
    April 18, 2007

    “This joke wasn’t even funny or interesting when it was used on Star Trek!”

    On the other hand, the sword-in-a-book gag was actually worth a chuckle when used in the 300th Simpson’s episode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_Arms_of_the_Ma

    For those who stopped watching back when it was still good, this episode had a throwaway opening in which Rainer Wolfcastle is auctioning off his belongings, and shows Bart how everything is actually a concealed sword (even if a sword with a sword instead if I recall correctly). The bible-into-sword comic linked above immediately brought that scene to mind.

  25. #25 Blake Stacey
    April 18, 2007

    kurage:

    Me too.

  26. #26 PaulC
    April 18, 2007

    If we’re voting for inadvertently funny, my pick is “sin cursed world” (After Eden) linked by C.

    http://archives.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1357206

    The comic at the top, which I assume is unaltered, is indistinguishable from parody. If anyone knows “Tom the Dancing Bug”, imagine putting it in one of the “super fun-pak” strips
    http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2007/04/05/boll/index1.html

    I would look at it, chuckle, and move on without thinking it could possibly be intended seriously.

  27. #27 Warren
    April 18, 2007

    This is semi-ontopic; I’ve been trying to collect a blogroll of good skeptic and nerd-flavored cartoons/comics.

    So far I have (in no particular order) My [Confined] Space; Jesus and Mo; Saint Gasoline; The Pain — When Will it End?; Monkey Fluids; XKCD; The Perry Bible Fellowship; and Married to the Sea, as well as a “live” link to Freethunk!.

    Anyone know of others that are worth the read?

    Oh, and I’ve got some blasphemous stuff myself (put out to commemorate Easter) in the “Comics” tab on my page. I think I’ll be doing more with Holy Toast Eucharist; it’s just so rich with satirical possibilities.

  28. #28 Baratos
    April 18, 2007

    To Warren: One comic I enjoy is http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=792#comic
    “Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal.” Its alot like Far Side. Currently, my favorite panel is the one with the hostages:
    “Calm down–just tell us what you want, and we’ll try to make it happen!”
    “I desire nothing! HAHAHAHAHAH!”
    “Ugh. I hate it when the Dalai Lama takes hostages.

  29. #29 AlanW
    April 18, 2007

    I kinda actually like this one: http://www.answersingenesis.org/CreationWise/CW_Pages/CWgenesisTale.asp

    Once upon a time… indeed

  30. #30 twincats
    April 18, 2007

    “As commented above, Christian rock sucks. Christian humor sucks. Fundies usually dress without much style. They read dumbed down books. They aren’t much fun at parties. Is a Fundy just a developmentally stunted person with appallingly bad taste?”

    It’s also my experience that their taste in art sucks as well; all the fundies that I used to work with thought that Thomas Kinkade was the epitome of fine art. If you look at their discussion threads, (don’t ask, long story) you also see lots of pseudo-folk artsy puppies, kittens, rainbows, cutesy anthropomorphized livestock and, of course, crosses and anglicized jebuses in the avatars.

  31. #31 kurage
    April 18, 2007

    Blake –

    Now that’s some fine cartooning!

  32. #32 Blake Stacey
    April 18, 2007

    kurage:

    Thanks! I keep hoping PZ will update the post with a link. . . .

  33. #33 Blake Stacey
    April 18, 2007

    Many thanks, Prof. Myers. :-)

  34. #34 David Harmon
    April 21, 2007

    Actual humor is (among other things) a way to get some perspective on things that are just too screwy to take seriously. Both fundies, and the kooks who travel with them, show a notorious lack of perspective…. Absolutism, binary thinking, and rigidity are a basic part of their worldview. So they fear and hate anything that dares to put their Holy Words into a more realistic perspective.

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