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Maybe Satan just likes a good enchilada?

Category: Weirdness
Posted on: April 27, 2007 11:53 AM, by PZ Myers

We've finally found something crazy enough to make a Utah Republican to back away. One of their district chairmen, Don Larsen, has proposed an interesting resolution.

"In order for Satan to establish his 'New World Order' and destroy the freedom of all people as predicted in the Scriptures, he must first destroy the U.S.," his resolution states. "The mostly quiet and unspectacular invasion of illegal immigrants does not focus the attention of the nations the way open warfare does, but is all the more insidious for its stealth and innocuousness."

Whoa … he's got Satan herding Mexicans across the border, a contention supported by Scripture, apparently (chapter and verse, please?)! To their credit, the Republican party seems to be a bit embarrassed by it all, but it still exposes this terrifying undercurrent of outright wacky theology that is lurking beneath us here.

(One thing I like about the SL Tribune site I linked above is that their comments have a reader scoring system, and the comments that try to endorse Larsen's crazy rationale are getting lots of thumbs down. That's somewhat reassuring — the literate sector of the culture is strongly against blaming Satan for social ills.)

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#1

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 27, 2007 11:59 AM

Satan herding Mexicans

Well I've found the name of my new band.


Not surprising this is coming out of Utah honestly. Besides the Mormon death grip on the state there are a number of crazy survival apocalyptic groups in the area up near Idaho and in the belly of the "fundamentalist mormon" camps.

For such a beautiful state, it sure has it's share of crazies (I guess they all do).

#2

Posted by: Albatrossity | April 27, 2007 12:01 PM

Actually, thing about the SL Trib site that I have always enjoyed is found on the home page, where the heading "Utah News" includes tabs for five categories:

Politics
Polygamy
Education
Columns
Photos

It may be the only news source in the world where you can get a daily update on polygamy...

#3

Posted by: Smart_Cookie | April 27, 2007 12:02 PM

Are you sure he meant Mexico? How do you know he doesn't mean the illegal immigrants from Canada? *lol*

We can be pretty devious when we need to. Just ask any Canuck if they've declared EVERYTHING when they cross the border, and watch their eyes turn all shifty.

#4

Posted by: CJColucci | April 27, 2007 12:05 PM

And I'd always admired Don Larsen for throwing that perfect game in the '56 Series. Maybe Sal Maglie should have beaned him.

#5

Posted by: Stuart Coleman | April 27, 2007 12:11 PM

Man, that Satan guy is one sneaky bastard. I'd like to get some sneakiness lessons from him.

#6

Posted by: rrt | April 27, 2007 12:11 PM

Hmm...obscure, but I can't resist:

"It eats you starting with your bottom."

#7

Posted by: John Danley | April 27, 2007 12:15 PM

Maybe that is why Satan likes jalapenos and habaneros? I get it now thanks to our district representative.

#8

Posted by: Hank Fox | April 27, 2007 12:23 PM

Wait, I thought George Bush and REPUBLICANS were Satan's tool for destroying America.

#9

Posted by: Bonzo | April 27, 2007 12:29 PM

Another bit of news from Utah.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3085803&page=1

Satan again?

#10

Posted by: MikeM | April 27, 2007 12:32 PM

Apparently, there's a corollary to this. If you're a thief but can recite the bible, judges will lower your bond.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/13098244/detail.html

Huh. I'll have to remember that, the next time I rob a bank. It's good knowledge to have.

#11

Posted by: T_U_T | April 27, 2007 12:42 PM

If there are really agents of the devil at work on this world, most of work as religious fundamentalists...

#12

Posted by: No1uno | April 27, 2007 12:43 PM

Why was I not surprised to see that was in my hometown of Conservannati, the Salt Lake City of the Midwest in terms of outright religious/wingnuts. The Creationist Museum may not be within a days drive of 2/3's of Americans, but it is easily within an hour's drive of a surprisingly high percentage of America's worst.

#13

Posted by: Greg Laden | April 27, 2007 12:46 PM

"District 65 Chairman Don Larsen's resolution"

Probably a guy from Minnesota....

#14

Posted by: T_U_T | April 27, 2007 12:57 PM

errata : most of them

#15

Posted by: dorid | April 27, 2007 1:04 PM

shoot, I must have misread THIS. I thought it said help bring STAN to New Mexico...

or maybe it was a misprint...

are we really raising money to bring SATAN to New Mexico?

#16

Posted by: Blindpig | April 27, 2007 1:06 PM

See, this proves Satan is a Republican, all that immigration equals cheap labor, and who wants to keep labor cheap?

#17

Posted by: BruceJ | April 27, 2007 1:17 PM

LOL.

Now if the judge REALLY wanted to test this guy's bible knowledge he'd have asked him about The List. I hear it's a short list of rules, less than a dozen, about what you're not supposed to do.

I'm pretty sure there's something about stealing in there.

#18

Posted by: Whatever | April 27, 2007 1:53 PM

I just watched Penn & Teller discuss the issue of immigration last night on their show Bullshit. I suggest you watch it they should be replaying it on showtime all week. I won't rehash all the details, but my favorite skit was the one were the dynamic duo were dressed as Indians standing behind a wall which was being assaulted by europeans. They kept saying things like "this is our country" and "we have a sovereign right to this land". Then of course the europeans break down the wall and proceed to immigrate into the Indian land, now known as America. I guess most people just don't remember what is written on the statue of liberty.

Oh yeah one last thing, according to the show there are 11 million illegal immigrants in the country right now, and that number increases by about 500k a year. Unemployment for the last ten years has hovered around 5%, so the idea that immigrants are taking our jobs is......whats the word I'm looking for......oh yeah.. BULLSHIT!

#19

Posted by: Sheldon | April 27, 2007 2:18 PM

"but it still exposes this terrifying undercurrent of outright wacky theology that is lurking beneath us here."

It also exposes this wacky anti-immigrant sentiment, which is not an undercurrent. And why not go back to NAFTA which undermined Mexico's rural economy and thus encouraging these waves of desperate people.

#20

Posted by: Ribozyme | April 27, 2007 2:31 PM

All the territories in the American-Mexican border, the USA took from Mexico. So, Mexicans there is an invasion? You can check the story and the maps here and here.

So a good chunk of the current USA was stolen from Mexico, and another big chunk from the Native Americans. Stealing and killing people so you can take their posessions, their land, is not considered Satanic by the Christian idiots spewing this bull**it?

#21

Posted by: Nix | April 27, 2007 3:20 PM

`It eats you starting with your bottom' is obscure? In this crowd?

(So it's the First Evil herding Mexicans across the border! It still sounds a bit too... non-evil, to me. Who knew Satan was so interested in encouraging full employment in California's itinerant fruit-picking sector?)

#22

Posted by: rrt | April 27, 2007 3:26 PM

Well, the First Evil also sends inept nerdly supervillains across the border. I imagine half of those immigrants are carrying concealed freeze rays...

#23

Posted by: Faith | April 27, 2007 5:01 PM

"From beneath... it devours."

#24

Posted by: Rugosa | April 27, 2007 5:10 PM

I was about to say that nearly all Mexican immigrants are Catholic, and thus not in league with Satan, but remembered that to fundies and Normans, Catholic = Satan's minions.

#25

Posted by: Neil | April 27, 2007 5:43 PM

Seeing as how Texas was stolen from Mexico by ungrateful, slave-owning, theiving white IMMIGRANTS, and noticing that their main export (outside of oil) continues to be in that same vein (self-important, war mongering, far-right, inbred politicians)I would jump at the chance to sell-hell GIVE Texas right back to them. Just do me a favor and make sure that ZZ Top and the Butthole Surfers are safely in AZ or CA before you do!

#26

Posted by: One Eyed Jack | April 27, 2007 5:53 PM

I'm with you on giving TX back to Mexico, Neil, but only if they take the Bush Reich with them.

OEJ

#27

Posted by: Mick | April 27, 2007 6:04 PM

Dios mio! No es bueno!

#28

Posted by: Ribozyme | April 27, 2007 6:07 PM

Hey! The Bush Reich wasn't in Texas when it was stolen, so it has to be given back without them. Besides, California, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico also were stolen from Mexico in a pretend purchase.

#29

Posted by: dorid | April 27, 2007 7:15 PM

Funny how no one heard of this Satan fellow around here until the white europeans started showing up... he must have come over with THEM.

#30

Posted by: Molkien | April 27, 2007 8:56 PM

You can give Texas back, only as long as Austin stays.

#31

Posted by: Randy | April 30, 2007 11:25 AM

This same story popped up on KOS last week: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/4/26/151010/273/63#c63

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