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The Creation Museum

Category: CarnivalsCreationism
Posted on: May 27, 2007 11:07 AM, by PZ Myers

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This week, the creationist Ken Ham and his organization, Answers in Genesis, are practicing the Big Lie. They have spent tens of millions of dollars to create a glossy simulacrum of a museum, a slick imitation of a scientific enterprise veneered over long disproved religious fables, and they are gathering crowds and world-wide attention to the grand opening of their edifice of deceit. You can now take a photographic tour of the exhibits and see for yourself—it's not science at all, but merely a series of Bible stories dolled up in dioramas.

The blogosphere is also giving them some attention — almost none of it favorable. What I've done here is collect recent reactions from all over to the Creation Museum, and compile them down into a link and a short and (I hope) representative extract. Browse through this long, long list, and when you find some quote that tickles your interest, follow the link to find the complete article. The National Center for Science Education has also compiled reactions from journalists, educators, scientists, and scientific organizations for yet more reading on the subject.


First, credit where credit is due: I'm just the editor of this particular collection, but the idea came from John McKay, who thought there ought to be some kind of coordinated response condensed out of the chaos of the blogosphere, and prompted me to put out a call for links to commentary. John does not think much of Ham's dino-follies.

Ken Ham's version of Genesis appears to have been designed to appeal to second-graders. Not only are all of the neat stories in the beginning of Genesis literally true. In Adam and Eve's day all of the animals were friends. None of the carnivores ate meat, so they never hurt or scared the lambs or deer. Cats never chased mice and dogs never chased cats. Not only that, but people and dinosaurs lived together and were friends. The dinosaurs let people put dino-saddles on them and ride them around like ponies.

That's a fairly typical reaction: we can hardly believe that in 21st century America, this childish comic-book fantasy is being taken seriously by anyone.


The media commentary

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I wish the country's newspapers had responded that unambiguously and clearly, but the image above was modified. Journalists, you have a problem. Most of the articles written on this "museum" bend over backwards to treat questions like "Did Man walk among Dinosaurs?" as serious, requiring some kind of measured response from multiple points of view, and rarely even recognized the scientific position that the question should not only be answered with a strong negative, but that it is absurd. Let me ask any reporters out there: when you cover a story about a disaster, say the destruction of a town by a tornado, do you also feel obligated to get a few pithy quotes from a few people who want to argue that the disaster was a good thing, or that the residents deserved it?

One of the worst examples of this inane and unwarranted "fair and balanced" reporting comes from the Newspaper of Record, the hallowed New York Times. The Times published an appallingly credulous article, Adam and Eve in the Land of the Dinosaurs, that strained to give equal time to idiocy.

For the skeptic the wonder is at a strange universe shaped by elaborate arguments, strong convictions and intermittent invocations of scientific principle. For the believer, it seems, this museum provides a kind of relief: Finally the world is being shown as it really is, without the distortions of secularism and natural selection.

Quite a few of the articles sent in to me took the NY Times to task for printing such wishy-washy apologetics for creationism. Despite having some excellent science writers and some of the best science reporting in the news, whenever the paper tries to address the cultural conflict with science, they have consistently had some of the very worst articles on the subject.

Answers in the New York Times

So I got to thinking, hmmm.... Why did the Times send their culture reporter to cover this museum in such a friendly way, when they assigned science reporter John Noble Wilford to cover this year's opening of the new Human Origins Hall at the American Museum of Natural History? I mean, they're on the same subject, right? Shouldn't they get the same reviewer?

The Times on the Creation Museum

No, for a visitor steeped in the scientific world view the impact of the museum is shocked disbelief at the sheer level of scientific incompetence on display coupled with considerable nervousness about the political power these folks wield.

Rothstein offers a few gentle criticisms of the museum in the article's final paragraphs. But his article is mostly a fawning and ridiculous tribute to one of the rankest displays of pseudoscience you are ever likely to confront.

The media hasn't always been an indecisive organ for nonsense. On the other coast, the LA Times has done a much better job of reporting on the Yabba-dabba science.

The museum, a 60,000-square-foot menace to 21st century scientific advancement, is the handiwork of Answers in Genesis, a leader in the "young Earth" movement. Young Earthers believe the world is about 6,000 years old, as opposed to the 4.5 billion years estimated by the world's credible scientific community. This would be risible if anti-evolution forces were confined to a lunatic fringe, but they are not. Witness the recent revelation that three of the Republican candidates for president do not believe in evolution. Three men seeking to lead the last superpower on Earth reject the scientific consensus on cosmology, thermonuclear dynamics, geology and biology, believing instead that Bamm-Bamm and Dino played together.

The Washington Post also strongly disputes A Monument To Creation.

But in this latest demonization of Darwinian evolution, there is a sticking point: For the biblical account to be accurate and the world to be so young, several hundred years of research in geology, physics, biology, paleontology, and astronomy would need to be very, very wrong.

Really, journalists: you can objectively report the claims of both sides, but when one side is wrong and lying, it's your job to also report that.


The scientific arguments against creationism

The blogosphere has actually done a better job than most media in addressing the scientific flaws in Ken Ham's creationism, which if you think about it, is a rather nasty indictment of the reportage in itself: a bunch of disorganized amateurs have created more coherent criticisms of the bad science than the professionals, who are supposed to inform the public, have done. Rarely do the newspapers report any of the claims that Ken Ham makes about science, and even more rarely do they explain why they are wrong. Almost all of the blog entries on this museum refer to the fact that creationism contradicts well-established scientific principles, even the ones that have as their main intent mocking the "museum"—others put considerable effort into summarizing the science that Ken Ham either does not understand or cynically neglects.

The Earth divided

If every living creature on earth got off a boat at the top of Mount Ararat a mere 4,500 years ago, how did sloths, who only move a few inches a day, make their way to the jungles of South America? How did penguins end up in Antarctica and polar bears in the Arctic? And what happened to Australia to make it populated with such strange creatures found nowhere else in the world?

In fact, Ken Ham was asked about this very question as he was being interviewed about his new Creationist Museum in April. His answer? Plate tectonics, really fast. He claimed that "the flood waters lubricated a process called runaway subduction in which the continents subsequently drifted apart at a sprint!" In other words, plate tectonics happening over a period of days or weeks rather than millions of years. The biblical justification for this is one tiny, obscure reference to the earth being divided. Genesis 10:25 says "To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided...". The name Peleg literally means division.

Creationist Rule of Thumb with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics

Anytime somebody tries to use the Second Law of Thermodynamics to refute evolution, you should realize you're dealing with somebody who doesn't understand science or who is a liar.

Spotting Design

Modern archaeology is built around experiment, observation and ethnography. It's not enough to say something looks designed, you should also refer to why and how you think an item was created.

T. rex ate coconuts

Museum guides tell visitors that before Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise all of the dinosaurs were peaceful plant-eaters. In Genesis 1:30 God gives 'green herb' to every creature to eat and so there were no predators. When a curious museum visitor asks, why exactly T. rex had six-inch long serrated teeth, the guides go on to explain that T. rex used his big teeth to open coconuts. Apparently it was only after Adam and Eve sinned and were cast out of paradise that the dinosaurs started to eat flesh.

Ham's Creation Museum - What Kids Won't Hear About Teeth

On the specific errors, Ham draws a false similarity in tooth structure between bears and tyrannosaurs. To Ham, the gross generality is sufficient: both bears and tyrannosaurs have "sharp teeth", but different diets - the conclusion, therefore, is that this observation is consistent with the Genesis account that all creatures ate plants initially, but later diverged into different diets. Of course a very simple inspection (I have a bear jaw and skull in front of me now) shows quite clearly to anyone without pre-conceived ideas of what these animals should be eating that bear teeth are not like tyrannosaur teeth at all. Tyrannosaurs have multiple, generally cone-shaped teeth. The only remotely cone-shaped teeth on the bear are the canines: the remaining teeth are largely low, with rounded cusps. When you look at the teeth of to days carnivores (crocodiles, porpoises, sea lions, tigers, coyotes, foxes, etc.) their teeth are cone or triangular (a flattened cone) in design, much like the tyrannosaurs. Bear teeth on the other hand, show a mixture of cone-like and low, flattened teeth similar to those seen in raccoons, badgers, monkeys and, to a lesser extent, humans. All of these animals eat a variety of foods including meat, insects, fruit and other plant materials.

Ham Boned

It says quite a lot about Ham and his followers that they find a 4.5-billion-year-old Earth wildly implausible next to the notion of a tyrannosaur calmly grazing in a meadow.

Jurassic Pigeon at the Creation Museum!

Creationists can't handle this consistently. There are basically two responses. One set of creationists treat Archaeopteryx as a bird, with some minor differences like claws on the wings and teeth in the beak. The other approach focuses on the fact that Archaeopteryx is not directly ancestral to modern birds, and spins that into a denial of any association at all. Both arguments are symptomatic of a stolid cement headed stupidity.

The former approach manages to plumb slightly deeper depths of idiocy. Predictably, this is the approach chosen by Answers in Genesis, for their absurd museum.

Probability and Genetic Algorithms: AiG Gets it all Wrong

When looking through AiG's archives for stuff that I could shred apart for PZ's blog carnival, I characteristically looked for the computer science and mathematics related drivel that is typical of all creationists. And lo and behold, I found it. The first piece deals with Richard Dawkins' famous "weasel" word-experiment, and the second deals with genetic algorithms and why they allegedly fail to show that evolution works.

The 7 Es of Evidence

Creationists blindly ignore the evidence of the world around us in order to make it fit into a paradigm. They spend an inordinate amount of time and money on trying to prove hypothesis that do not stand up to scientific tests. They are in the process of raising $25 million dollars in order to open the museum debt free. $25 million dollars on a farce of a museum that claims that the dinosaurs lived in the time of humans.

Dragon Earth: A Scientific World

That is the heart of the difference between a magical world and a scientific world. The nature of the scientific world does not change as our understanding changes, instead it is our understanding that changes as we learn more of how our world works. As we learn more we come to understand that our understanding was in error and needs correction.

Here's a good question: "Are there any technological advances that have been made because of a belief in evolution?" Thanks for asking.

Introduce me to a creationist who respects the investment in learning evolution to understand the mysteries of biology and I'll work alongside them any day.

What are the YECs saying?

Young Earth Creationists dont do laboratory research. 'More work needs to be done?' YECs dont do any work at all, especially with ERVs [endogenous retroviruses]. If you know of one, send him/her my way.

Ken Ham's Comedy Museum

That's not science, and it's lousy epistemology, which is why while science has made remarkable progress over the last century, often with ideas that appeared absurd at first glance (evo-devo, plate tectonics, DNA, quantum mechanics, and relativity for starters), creationists like Ken Ham can (and do) recycle their speeches and arguments from 20 years ago, and get raving applause from the true believers. Never mind that they never produce any new knowledge of any kind about the world.

He built a whole creation museum, but says "young earth" isn't the point? WTF?

So you built a whole museum based on a LITERAL interpretation of the bible? I've only got one question. Do you believe EVERYTHING it says? Oh yeah? Really?

What about all of these questions?

A car analogy for the science vs church "debate"

You're going to service it, you tell me, based solely on the one book you wrote all those years ago, which discusses nothing but the fuel pump. In doing this, you are willing to throw out volumes of text that I have written, explaining in exacting detail every part of the car from the differential to the hood ornament.

One good thing that is emerging from Ham's folly is that outraged scientists are mobilizing to fight the foolishness: Calling all Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky scientists!

A peaceful protest is planned, as I wrote about recently. But we need more than that. Eugenie Scott, who is the head of the National Center for Science Education, has organized a Statement of Concern, and it needs signatures. They’re looking for scientists, and specifically physical scientists, to sign the statement.

Are you a postdoc or faculty-level astronomer, chemist, physicist, engineer, or geologist in Ohio, Indiana, or Kentucky? Do you care that science is being horribly abused by the likes of Ham? Then sign the Statement!

Not all the focus was on the bad biology and paleontology of Ken Ham. He's also an incompetent fraud when it comes to interpreting the Bible—This is not about dinosaurs.

With Ken Ham's creation museum opening May 28, in Petersburg, Kentucky, I thought it might be abnormally interesting to look at some of the claims concerning the Hebrew Bible and dinosaurs. In this post, I will limit myself to two Hebrew words that, according to some Young Earth Creationists, may refer to dinosaurs: תַנִּין (tannîn) and תַנִּים (tannîm). It is not my intention to be completely exhaustive, but rather to give you enough evidence to support my conclusion. While I will only touch lightly on Leviathan and not at all on Behemoth, I must say at the top of this post that one needs to have a very strong prior belief that the Hebrew Bible might mention dinosaurs to see them anywhere. And that includes Leviathan, Behemoth and any other of the words or phrases that have been suggested. There is absolutely no reason, based on internal evidence to associate dinosaurs with any word or entity mentioned the Bible. Nothing in the larger corpus of Near Eastern literature would lead one to such a conclusion either.


The ugly consequences of creationism

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Another common reaction on the blogs is simple disgust at the anti-intellectualism of the creationist movement and at the shameful targeting of impressionable children. What Ham is doing is the opposite of education: he is misleading our kids and encouraging uninformed adults to promote an anti-science agenda.

Inside Ham's Crackhouse (see also Part 1 and Part 2)

This crackhouse will only help promote, spread, and indoctrinate people into young earth propaganda and do no science at all. Heck, the creationists working there will not even mentioned to their lay people that the only real, true foundation of The Gospel is our Lord Jesus Christ and our Lord Jesus Christ only. (John 1:1-15) despite what the creationists falsely claim. Instead, it will only teach you nothing worthwhile and help further the efforts of people, who willfully do everything they accuse evolution of, to horde millions of dollars of money for themselves and exercise power and control over millions of people.

Ken Ham's Petting Zoo Opens to Shut Minds

Lapdogs for Jesus! That's what these people want to be. That's what this "museum" is about—domestication. They don't want scientists telling us that evolution reveals our nobel, wild, free past, because this 10,000 year-old experiment in our self-domestication will not be complete until we've done in the entire planet, too.

Ham Roast

The "big deal" comes from the fact that we Americans are notorious suckers for flash and dazzle, and mostly poorly educated in science, to boot. So you put up this museum, full of false arguments and bad science, arguing against good science, and you've got a recipe for further misleading plenty of Americans.

Opening of unnatural history museum

…misunderstanding the knowledge that science research provides is dangerous in itself, especially in an intellectual battle for hearts and minds.

AIG Museum of "Yabba-Dabba Science" Opens in Kentucky

This isn't just about a few nutcases out on the fringe; this sort of anti-science nonsense has been informing the Bush administration right from the start. The fact that an assemblage of wackos such as AIG can raise the millions of dollars necessary to build this monument to willful ignorance should concern all Americans in possession of firing neurons.

Argument for a Fairy Tale

I have nothing against his "museum", other than him calling it a museum, and saying it uses "science". To me, it's just a amusement park devoted to a fairy tale, with no real science behind it, whatsoever.

Monument to Delusion

While I don't think this museum will convert any adults to creationism, it will indoctrinate children, which the museum is targeted at, into thinking that the earth was magically created from nothing just a few thousand years ago, and that all of Earth's millions of species were preserved on a wooden ship during a global flood, against all common sense and scientific evidence. This will add to the misinformation that these students will need to unlearn when they reach college and need to learn real science.

Walking with dinosaurs, and eating salad with them too

It's this sense of wonder that organizations like AiG and facilities like the Creation Museum threaten most. The idea that everything worth knowing can be sandwiched between the covers of a single book. The concept that there is some evidence that must not be examined, some ideas that must not be explored (remember how Adam and Eve got into all that trouble?). The belief that one's own morals and prejudices are so perfect that one must pass them down intact to one's children or risk the wrath of God.

Creationists gone wild

This Memorial Day will be truly memorial for those who believe the universe is only 6,000 years old. The Creation Museum opens Monday in Petersburg, Ky. A creation of the creationists responsible for the Answers in Genesis "resource," primarily Ken Ham, B.Sc., the designers of the new museum have managed to find $27 million to furnish their monument to Biblical literalism with the latest in multimedia and animatronic displays. Just think what those 27 million clams could have done for, oh ... I dunno ... the pagan public school system?

It's time to rally against the Creation Museum

We have just recently begun the 21st century. At a time when science education is slowly gaining momentum after years of neglect, the opening of the Creation Museum is a giant step backward into pre-Darwinian, 19th century science. That most of its visitors will never once question the validity of the beliefs on which creationism is based is a leap back into the Dark Ages.

Opposing the Creation Museum is Good Science, Not Intolerance

People tend to vote for what sounds right rather than what actually is right, and AiG is perfectly willing to lie to make sure it happens. That is why people like me oppose the Creation Museum. It's not because we want to censor or take away the First Amendment Rights of Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis. They're free to build whatever they want on their land and believe whatever suits their fancy. We simply want AiG to stop lying and call their building what it really is: a church.

A World Where Lies Are True

The museum is an illustration of the movement's marriage of primitive and intolerant beliefs with the modern tools of technology, mass communication, sophisticated fundraising and political organization. Totalitarian systems usually start as propagandistic movements that ostensibly teach people to "believe what they want." This is a ruse. This primacy of personal opinion, regardless of facts, destabilizes and destroys the primacy of all facts. This process leads inevitably to the big lie. Facts are useful only if they bolster the message. The use of mass-marketing techniques to persuade and convince, rather than brainwash, has led tens of millions of followers to accept the toxic totalitarian line by tricking them into believing it's their own. Ironically, at the outset the movement seemingly encourages people to think "independently" or "courageously."

Thou shalt not lie

Unfortunately, Ham has forgotten that most people in this country get an earful of wacky religious beliefs every Sunday from the time they are born, whereas many children in this country are not taught the fundamentals of evolution even by the time they reach high school.

Welcome to the Creation Museum

This museum is not a museum of science. It's a museum of faith, carefully cloaked in scientific garb, to help prove the truth of the Christian bible. Why is this a concern for scientists, such as the ones that have signed petitions protesting the museum, or those who couldn't be there but are quietly fuming?

Because this museum distorts science. It's an educational attraction, carrying in this morning at least one schoolbus in through a long line of cars waiting at the iron gates. It shows first the scientific viewpoint  places a scientific fact in front of the visitor, then "debunks" the years of research and testing that went into ascertaining that piece of knowledge with carefully chosen phrases that reinforce a specific religious viewpoint.

One Born Every Minute

We don't think of museums this way today (thank goodness), for the most part, but - in a way - the Creation Museum sounds like a kind of throwback, mixing science and fantasy, entertainment and 'moral instruction'. It might not be surprising to know that "Its designer, Patrick Marsh, used to work at Universal Studios in Los Angeles."

Museum of absurdity set to open

The creationist museum will be a major disappointment to truth-seekers. Its foundation or biblical literalism will ensure that truth will be sacrificed for doctrinal convictions. It will also give true believers a false view that science confirms religious myths.

Solomon's House: The Deeper Agenda of the New Creation Museum in Kentucky

What is really on display here is what Max Weber called the "enchanted garden" -- a magical place wherein God cares about human beings and codes nature with secrets and signs of his power and purpose. The scientific world view, by contrast, presents what Stephen Jay Gould once described as "the 'cold bath' theory that nature was not constructed as our eventual abode, didn't know we were coming (we are, after all, interlopers of the latest geological microsecond), and doesn't give a damn about us (speaking metaphorically)." However, Gould concludes, "I regard such a position as liberating, not depressing."

Genesis 1 and 2 - a 'low rent side show'

Simplistic, mysoginist, inconsistent and bearing no resemblance to what actual scientific evidence shows. Just what we've come to expect from the 'holy of holies'.

And I'm supposed to believe this...why?

So WWKHD? He watched the movie or heard a voice that said "If you build it they will come" and he will fleece them when they do.

Creation Museum

The "science" museum is nothing more than an amusement park using technology to bend and break the truth. The people who will view it with interest, more than amusement, will be those who believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible. If belief in some unprovable and invisible being makes them feel better, that's their business.

From Jello to Jesus

I think all Christians do a certain amount of sticking-fingers-in-their-ears-and-singing to drown out the facts which bluntly disprove their beliefs. I envision a Christian's belief system (or any religious belief system) as an egg shell surrounding that person. The believer inside that shell can happily keep their beliefs as long as the shell remains intact around them. As things like scientific advances bombard a believer's shell they will alter their beliefs to patch up the cracks in their shells. These acts of crack-patching rationalization take all kinds of crazy forms and usually include interpreting sections of the bible as figurative instead of literal and actively working to be in complete denial or ignorance of the threatening knowledge. Mr. Ham's technique is heavy on the denial.

Beyond Barney

And it is sad that children and adults will be subject to this museum as some sort of science education; when the real discoveries of what the dinosaurs were and how they lived are enfolding through the real process of discovery. They will be denied the wonder of how the world really works, in favor of the Answers-in-Genesis fantasy.

Creation Mausoleum

This monument to cultural inertia is misnamed. Behold the Creation Mausoleum. In it are the discarded ideas, naivety, and fears of the youth of mankind. Reject these beliefs, but know them, for there are those who would see them resurrected. But make no mistake. It is a tomb. It is a folly.

Aude Sapere

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this large scale disinformation effort is the target audience. If you want to convince scientists of your claim, you do some research and try to get it published. But what about children? If you wanted to target children with this type of disinformation a high tech theme-park approach seems like it would leave a lasting impression on young minds.

There's a Huckster Born Every Minute

One of the reasons the Cardiff Giant was such a successful hoax in the 1860s was that, as HistoryBuff.com notes, "many an evangelist at the time had been preaching that there were giants in the earth." People were inclined to believe in the hoax because people they would otherwise trust planted a suggestion in their minds that it might be true, just as huckster George Hull could plant the fake giant and wait for the right moment to bring it out of the ground.

Now, according to Sunday's Washington Post, a group of extreme anti-intellectuals from the evangelical movement are set to open a "Creation Museum," in Petersburg, Kentucky (near Cincinnati), which cost $27 million to build, a "museum" that is every bit as much a hoax today as the Cardiff Giant was in its time.

Here's something to consider: every time I've gone to a popular science museum, there are lines of school buses ferrying kids on field trips. Public schools in the Cincinnati area might want to think about how field trips to this particular museum could be the Genesis of a lawsuit.

The minute a public-school teacher takes his or her class on a field trip to the Christian House of Deception, we've got a lawsuit a-borning. Ever since the Supreme Court's Edwards v. Aguillard decision in 1987, schools that are paid for with taxpayer cash have been forbidden to teach creationism as if it were science.


Mockery and humor

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To my surprise, I expected much more open clowning at this joke of a "museum"—but there were only a few entries that tried. I suspect that when many millions of dollars are thrown away on a fool's enterprise that has received international attention and that makes your whole country look like a nest of ignorant rubes and yokels, it's increasingly hard to regard it as funny.

A Post Wherin I Mock Creationists

And of all the dumb thing said by religious people, the dumbest are the Young Earth Creationists. These are the people who believe the world is six thousand years old because the bible tells them so and everything in the bible is literally true because the bible says so.

This the way to the Ken Ham museyroom. Turn your brain off goan in.…I think the title is enough to give you a taste.

Doing My Part to Irritate Ken Ham

From what I've seen, theists like Ken Ham seem to think they can get away with anything and everything. Especially intellectual sloth. So, when are they going to actually make falsifiable predictions and test them?

I Heard It Through The Ape Vine

A little way into the lecture, Ken Ham asks the children in the audience a variety of questions. Most of these questions deal with evolution, common descent and dinosaurs. He asks the children the question, "Does Your Grandfather Look Like This?" and then a slide is displayed behind him of a "humanized" looking ape. The children all laugh as do their parents, because of course, they don't believe that their beloved grandfather looks like the rather strange and funny representation they are being shown.

The Creationist Art Gallery

As we atheists are well aware, the Creation Museum of Faux Science will be opening this weekend. Less well publicized, however, is the accompanying Creationist Art Gallery. Fortunately, I've been able to get an advance copy of the catalog, and I can assure you that the displays will demonstrate the same kind of careful attention to scientific and historical truth that the more well-known venue does. Below, I've reproduced ten pages from the catalog, just to give you an idea of the high quality of the exhibits.

Scientists haven't had a chance to visit the "museum" yet, so all our descriptions are second-hand. That hasn't stopped anyone from imagining what opening day will be like—Itinerary for the Creation Museum Opening:

3:00 - 4:00 PM "Why Are There Still Monkeys?" Dr. Herman Marshall*, an accounting professor at Mooreville Community College in Kansas who has a doctorate from Liberty University and was one of the leading voices in the fight to introduce intelligent design curriculum into public schools, will present compelling evidence against the theory of evolution and for a literal, Biblical creation by elaborating on his central theme.

Creation Museum Opens This Weekend

The podcast is 29 minutes long. I think you'll enjoy it. It starts off with an item about the Scopes trial and its modern equivalents. Then (starting about 4 minutes and 40 seconds from the beginning and running through the end), I talk about the Creation Museum. I take you on a virtual tour. Join me as I make fun of this pathetic monument to superstition!

Left 'Toon Lane has been running a Cartoon Contest, collecting entries that make fun of the new "museum". And here's an example that leads in nicely to the next section.

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What about the rest of the world?

This collection of articles is largely in response to an American phenomenon, by American observers, and it's biased by my own American focus. We are being watched by the rest of the world, though, and some of it is bemused, and some of it is very concerned—not only is the most militarily powerful nation on the planet being misled by a brand of goofy and dangerous religiosity, but we're exporting it beyond our borders. Here's an excellent review of international creationist efforts, on the threat from creationism to the rational teaching of biology.

Virtually all biologists now accept evolution as a reality that is no longer worth discussing. In the words of Medawar, as quoted by Carroll (2006), for a biologist, the alternative to thinking in evolutionary terms is not to think at all. This universal acceptance makes it easy for biologists to forget that the situation in the world at large is very different, not also among non-scientists but also to a surprising extent among scientists in non-biological fields. Even those who are aware of the creationist threat to the rational teaching of biology in the USA often fail to realize that in recent years the problem has spread far beyond the USA, driven in some countries not by Christian fundamentalism but by Islamic fundamentalism. The purpose of this article, therefore, is to make biologists conscious of the existence of a serious threat to their subject, even if they work in countries such as Chile where very little problem is apparent at present, and to emphasize that the moment to plan how to respond to creationism is now.

We're also seeing the deluded minority of citizens in our neighbor to the North creating similar monuments to folly: Canada opens a competitor.

The country's first permanent creation museum -- set to open June 5 -- will use fossil displays to support the Bible's explanation of creation. The Big Valley Creation Science Museum, about 200 kilometres northeast of Calgary, is billed as an alternative to the view presented by the Royal Tyrell Museum in Drumheller, Alta.

Our German colleagues are looking at this developing idiocy incredulously. If you can't read this entry, I'll translate the message for you: a scientific freakshow opens in the most developed country in the world.

Sollte Ken Hams Museum ebenso lachhaft werden sind die Vereinigten Staaten um eine bizarre Attraktion reicher. Auf der anderen Seite ist es aber auch traurig, wenn man bedenkt, dass diese Freakshow im wissenschaftlich am weitesten entwickelten Land der Erde ihre Pforten öffnet.


What next?

This "museum" is going to get a flood of visitors in the next few weeks; novelty will be a draw. We can hope, though, that it will soon fade away and close its doors as the word gets out that it is bad science. And perhaps it will meet the fate of other institutions of pseudoscience, as described in The Dragons of Eden.

Whether the Creation Museum will be a success or failure is anyone's guess; I'm sure there are plenty of church groups that have already booked their trips over the last year or so. They'll get their fair share of skeptical visitors as well, people who have intact and working BS detectors who want to see for themselves what all the fuss was about. While this museum is certainly the largest and most advanced, its message is not new, and I can't help but wonder if it will end up like another controversial theme park. A mere 4 years ago, on May 23, 2003, Erich Anton Paul von Däniken, author of Chariots of the Gods?, opened Mystery Park in Interlaken, Switzerland. Based upon notions about "ancient astronauts" and alien intervention on earth so fanciful they bordered on the psychotic, the park was scoffed at by many and closed on November 19, 2006 due to financial problems (likely filed under "Money: Lack thereof"). (4) Will AiG's museum succomb to the same fate?

The only positive response to the museum that I received from a credible source was from Greg Laden, who says Long Live the Creation Museum! He predicts that the museum will not last, but that it is going to be a useful historical relic.

But now, it is important. It is important to preserve this period of American history, or more exactly, the history of our (perhaps unique, or at least extreme) American propensity to believe the strangest things, to have the strangest practices. There are museums and institutes dedicated to alien abduction, to the study of bigfoot, to the yoyo and the hula-hoop, to white supremacy, to pin-ball, and to Cadillac convertibles. The creation museum will fit in nicely with this panoply of the irrelevant, the parade of oddities, this historical warehouse of the weird.

The best and most productive response in all the collection, though, was this simple suggestion from Farm school at home:

Whether or not Monday is a holiday where you are, go visit a natural history museum.

Laelaps has the same idea. Screw the Creation Museum, go to the AMNH!

While the new Creation Museum is continually touted to be within driving distance of 2/3 of America's population (MapQuest tells me that it'd take me 10 hours and 25 minutes over a distance of 636.74 miles; If I'm going to drive that far, I'm going to go somewhere I actually will enjoy visiting), I suspect that there are plenty of people in the New York/New Jersey area who will not be making the trip to check it out this weekend. Instead, why not visit the new Mythical Creatures exhibition (curiously opening the same weekend as the Creation Museum) at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC? The promotional website for the exhibit is already up, and promises to help uncover the origins of many myths, from mermaids to dragons, with the help of artifacts from paleontology, archeology, and biology.

Now that is an excellent suggestion. If you are outraged as I am that Ken Ham's Temple of Inanity is going to be drawing attention, the best thing you can do is look in your local community for a good science museum, go there, and learn something new and something true. Tell them Ken Ham sent you, and that you're there because you want to support institutions that combat ignorance, rather than add to it.


One last sorrowful message

Does the opposition to creationism matter? Yes, it does. Answers in Genesis is a predatory organization: it thrives on ignorance, and it misinforms and misleads and lies specifically to inculcate the kind of gullibility and fear and desperation that will send more donations to its coffers.

It's not just children who are scammed. Read my father knew no science for an example of what Ken Ham really feeds on.

He needed more care, himself, but there was no money left to pay for a homemaker, or even a cleaning woman. I went out weekly and did as much as I could; church people mended his clothes and brought food, neighbours checked on him. But there was always a shortfall.

When he died, at 92, and I picked up the reins of his finances, I found that month's bill from AIG: $70. For DVDs. To give away, of course; Dad had no TV, no DVD player, no video player: he was almost blind.

That's what the museum is all about: fleecing the poor, the weak, the ignorant, the confused.

Comments

#1

Posted by: Laelaps | May 27, 2007 11:20 AM

Excellent work PZ! And thanks for the double-linkage as well.

#2

Posted by: CalGeorge | May 27, 2007 11:20 AM

To my surprise, I expected much more open clowning at this joke of a "museum"--but there were only a few entries that tried.

I put up something here:

http://swiftspeech.blogspot.com/2007/05/this-way-to-ken-ham-museyroom-check-you.html

#3

Posted by: aiabx | May 27, 2007 11:26 AM

I can't even look. Just thinking about the whole thing makes me vomit blood.

#4

Posted by: Rich | May 27, 2007 11:32 AM

Looks like I have my Sunday morning reading all set up. Better brew another pot of coffee. Thanks for this PZ. Well done.

#5

Posted by: sparc | May 27, 2007 11:38 AM

Do they have mummies? The plan looks as if they've buried some people in there.

#6

Posted by: waldteufel | May 27, 2007 11:39 AM

This is a good time to thank you, P.Z., for all the great work you do to promote reason and good science.

It is depressing to think about the large numbers of credulous zombies being led by their pastors into Ham's web of deceit.

#7

Posted by: John Danley | May 27, 2007 11:42 AM

Reposted from:
http://thestubborncurmudgeon.blogspot.com

PZ Myers Arrested!

AP Newswire: The infamous biology professor and Minnesota resident PZ Myers was arrested early yesterday afternoon on the steps of the newly opened Creation Science Museum in Petersburg Kentucky after being ridiculed for handing out remedial science textbooks to several of the museum's patrons. "They have to, at the very least, obtain a 2nd grade understanding of basic chemistry and geology," stated Myers. "I don't care what else they believe as long as they know that Fran Tarkenton, the former quarterback of the Vikings, was in no way a contemporary of Brachiosaurus!" Myers was promptly escorted to the state sheriff's vehicle in handcuffs moments after his comment. When reporters asked a spokesperson for the museum if he knew of Myers, he replied, "PZ Myers? Sure, I know damn well who he is! He's that uppity bio-cyclist (biologist) who runs a blogspot called Pharynx (he mistakenly meant Pharyngula). I mean really, would you listen to a godless man like that?" However, the spokesperson and other members of the museum's board of trustees do not perceive Professor Myers as a major threat to the resounding truth of Creation Science. "Millions upon millions of young-earth geochronologists will keep the museum intellectually and historically safe from his kind," stated the museum's most prominent representative, "His voice has been silenced." The mood gave further rise to heated debate as the afternoon progressed. "I'm no bone expert or anything," stated a worker in the museum's breathtakingly tempting gift shop, "but didn't the fact that dinosaurs have names prove they existed during the Carter Administration?" One of the nearby reporters quickly responded, "Excuse me, do you possess the cognitive acumen of a pickled silverfish?" "No," said the employee, "I'm much more intelligent than a piece of silver and you can't prove that I'm not." This type of stressful tension is not uncommon among museum participants, but certainly does not justify the incredulous behavior on behalf of PZ Myers. Nonetheless, Dr. Myers plans on obtaining legal representation and counter-suing the directors of the museum for their complicity in suggesting that Flintstones chewable multi-vitamins were fed to Velocirapters while being kept in captivity on Noah's Ark.

Editor's Note: What, if anything, are we to make of this senseless "enlightenment effort" hoisted by Professor Myers? Didn't Fran Tarkenton work as a prehistoric zoo-keeper during his off season with Ahmad Rashad? Doesn't ancient scripture tell us that the earth is no more than 6 or even 3 thousand years old (as Liberty University has recently verified)? What could possibly be gained from a grammar school textbook that could trump the majesty of knowing that Adam and Eve used Triceratops for manual tilling in the Garden of Eden while Parasaurolophus stealthily provided inner-city transportation services for the entire family over 20 foot waterfalls?

*For a scientifically accurate and historically verifiable account of the museum's authenticity, along with fossil imprints made of ice cream and Plaster of Paris toothpaste, please contact The Discovery Institute or Professor Michael Behe for personal tutoring and tips on what type of toy-dragon playset to get Ken Ham for Christmas. It is time to reclaim Answers In Genesis (AIG) for everyone!

#8

Posted by: Paguroidea | May 27, 2007 11:49 AM

Wow! What a wonderful response from the blogosphere. Many thanks to PZ, John McKay and all the folks that participated in the carnival. I don't blog, but I really appreciate the time and effort the bloggers put into their posts for this carnival.

#9

Posted by: matthew | May 27, 2007 11:53 AM

great post PZ, if you can make sticky posts, this should be one of them because it should certainly grow for a long time

#10

Posted by: John Danley | May 27, 2007 11:55 AM

Thanks again PZ for all your work! But I'm still moving to Sweden. There is only so much one can take of Thomas Kinkade, Land of the Lost and Toby Keith.

#11

Posted by: sparc | May 27, 2007 11:59 AM

When he died, at 92, and I picked up the reins of his finances, I found that month's bill from AIG: $70. For DVDs. To give away, of course; Dad had no TV, no DVD player, no video player: he was almost blind.
This is really appalling: Sending AiG bills to his own father and claiming that there was no money to pay the things his father seemingly really needed.
#12

Posted by: clheiny | May 27, 2007 12:10 PM

I was thinking that the billboard artwork looked familiar. Sho'nuff, it's cropped from a painting by John Gurche that appears on the cover of my edition of The Dinosaur Heresies. I wonder if that is being used with the artist's permission and/or approval?

#13

Posted by: Christian Burnham | May 27, 2007 12:18 PM

I'm still not sure. Is PZ and the blogosphere for or against creationism?

I wish he'd tell us what he really thinks. I'm not a mind reader you know!

#14

Posted by: minimalist | May 27, 2007 12:20 PM

aiabx:

I can't even look. Just thinking about the whole thing makes me vomit blood.

Hmm, are you sure you're not vomiting blood because you are possessed by TEH DEMONS OF EVILUTION?

#15

Posted by: Louis | May 27, 2007 12:23 PM

I'll post my submission here, since I didn't have it in a blog.

As May draws to an end, a wonderful museum of pseudoscience, paranoia and sometimes homophobia is about to open. This is none other than the Creation Museum, good old Answers in Genesis' effort to replace over 200 years of science with ideas that were rejected since that time.

Now each time they hear that the museum is pseudoscience, or is against science education, Ken Ham and his friends start to cry. They complain that no-one has seen the multimedia presentations (Flashy multimedia? It must be true!) put there by the loving PhD holders. (PhDs? It must be true!) They make cute lists of "scientists that believe in the Biblical account of creation", even though most of these were pre-Darwin or lived during his time. And just because you can get a PhD when you believe in creationism does not make it scientific!

Let me explain- creationism is a science stopper. Creationists always claim to have the absolute truth. This is evidenced by books such as "The Great Dinosaur Mystery Solved", where the author claims everything about the past makes sense when one looks through "Biblical glasses". Huzzah! No more complex phylogenies! I have the whole truth! But science doesn't work by trying to find the simplest explanations- it seeks the testable ones that fit the facts best.

Next we have an exhibit which presents the "present versus past science" idea, which says that science which studies the past is a simple mix of facts and presuppositions. Past science does not work that way! The claims made are tested over and over again. Creationists may deny this, but this is wilful ignorance. It sends the message that it is okay to be biased and that you should find evidence to support your worldview, as opposed to letting the facts speak for themselves.

Luckily, the folks at AiG have a host of dinosaur animatronics and multimedia presentations to make the museum appear scientific. But looking at those exhibits bring me pain. Much, much pain. Couldn't they have hired a better anatomist? The Archaeopteryx is completely wrong, looking like some sort of pigeon. The three-toed horses are awful. And that raptor- the skull, the hands, the integument- ouch.

And of course, there are much needed scare tactics. An exhibit shows a girl whose minister believes in evolution calling to planned parenthood, even though the rate of teen pregnancy is highest in the states with the least acceptance of evolution. Homosexuality is linked to AIDS. (Now what does that have to do with evolution? I guess Darwinism opens the path to civil rights!)

But of course, no-one will notice this, because the Bible is true from Genesis to Revelation, even though there is no evidence to support this claim, and it says that it is okay to sell your daughter and that rabbits chew their cud. So remember- the museum is all flash and trash!

#16

Posted by: Sherry Konkus | May 27, 2007 12:33 PM

I love it! I really do!

Last night, I've completed part 3 of my Inside Ham's Crackhouse trilogy. But since I'm way too late to email you the article, I thought I would complete the trilogy by posting my part 3 link to this page.

Inside Ham's Crackhouse Part 3

Now my article is complete.

#17

Posted by: Susannah | May 27, 2007 12:39 PM

sparc wrote:
' "When he died, at 92, and I picked up the reins of his finances, I found that month's bill from AIG: $70. For DVDs. To give away, of course; Dad had no TV, no DVD player, no video player: he was almost blind." (quoting me)

This is really appalling: Sending AiG bills to his own father and claiming that there was no money to pay the things his father seemingly really needed."

I think you have misunderstood; I was supporting my father as much as possible, financially and otherwise. It was he that was sending a large chunk of his pension to AIG.

#18

Posted by: dorid | May 27, 2007 12:40 PM

WOW! I'll be reading this for the next few days!

Thanks for doing this.

#19

Posted by: Bob O'H | May 27, 2007 12:43 PM

Scientists haven't had a chance to visit the "museum" yet,...

Untrue. Prof. Steve Steve has been there already.

Bob

#20

Posted by: Greg Laden | May 27, 2007 12:45 PM

Great Carnival of Creationism!

Everyone must now link back to this. We can float our work to the top of the Google-Pile and get PZ a sub 200 Technorati ranking at the same time.

#21

Posted by: Hrish | May 27, 2007 12:46 PM

Wish I was in the US right now to view this travesty. Could sure do with a good laugh.

#22

Posted by: Monkey | May 27, 2007 12:49 PM

PZ - It has to be said out loud: thanks for your efforts and time....stuff like these (and other) compilations certainly make for easier comprehensive awareness.
kudos.

#23

Posted by: George Picoulas | May 27, 2007 12:51 PM

I think they're entitled to their opinion and their own beliefs. I mean, not everybody wants to know, and not everyone wants to be smart. It's a choice like many others in a person's life.

If I want to believe in a thesis, a particular point of view because it makes me feel better [like watching the Faux network because it shows we're winning in Iraq] shouldn't I have this right?

I think many of us are missing the point when we try to argue with these people by using reason. No. They function on the reverse: First the conclusion, then construct the narrow frame and fill it only with facts [don't have to be relevant] to support their initial conclusion. It's rather simple this way. No need for revisions, or unknowns!

Don't you see that there's some comfort in being a child, never needing to grow up?.....

#24

Posted by: Christian Burnham | May 27, 2007 1:01 PM

Let's get the ball rolling and start Digging this post up.

The Digg button is at the top of the comments section.

#25

Posted by: The Exterminator | May 27, 2007 1:06 PM

A stunning achievement, PZ! Nearly 75 links, and organized beautifully. Maybe you're that intelligent designer some people are talking about.

#26

Posted by: coturnix | May 27, 2007 1:07 PM

OK, linked back. This is an excellent round-up and I hope it grows.

#27

Posted by: Louis | May 27, 2007 1:08 PM

Dugg.

#28

Posted by: Alan Kellogg | May 27, 2007 1:21 PM

I passed the audition! :)

Seriously, we can only speak out and hope people take the time to listen. Being honest, admitting to our errors, and pointing out where our knowledge is inadequate or incomplete may not help our cause, but it could establish a reputation for honesty that may help when contrasted with the venality of creationists etc.

I'm not that hot on science and how it works. I should hope I've got the gist of it right, but I freely confess to my limitations. Life is a constant learning experience and I hope we all look forward to learning until the day we die.

I hope word of this post and thrad gets spread around the world, and it means increased traffic for one and all. I hope furthermore that it means more people are inspired to learn more about evolution, the thory that describes how we understand it to work, and how science works and can be used to better our understanding of our world, and how that understanding can be used to better lives.

#29

Posted by: Thony C. | May 27, 2007 1:29 PM

I'll translate the message for you: a scientific freakshow opens in the most developed country in the world.

Given the museum in question and many other aspects of American culture it would be very strange if the quoted German article had indeed called America the most developed country in the world. What the author actually wrote was the most scientifically advanced land in the world a small but significant difference.

#30

Posted by: Susan B. | May 27, 2007 1:29 PM

I really like the idea someone suggested of spending Monday at a real natural history museum. If it didn't mean skipping classes, I'd go down to NYC and spend the day at the Museum of Natural History. It would be great if the most noticable effect of this mockery was a great increase in visitors to places with real science.

#31

Posted by: Kelli1 | May 27, 2007 1:32 PM

Dugg.

#32

Posted by: socinius | May 27, 2007 1:34 PM

Perhaps the "curators" of the Creation Museum should post something like the following at the entrance to their building:

If you have a world view later than the Iron Age do not enter.


Or Perhaps

If you can tell the difference between a myth and a scientific fact do not enter.

I guess such a sign wouldn't work because a creation that is only 4000-9000 years old would not allow for too many ages (except those of the dispensational sort).

All kidding aside, the 28th of May, 2007 will be another very sad day for this country. What is even more tragic will be the multitudes of school age children (home schooled, most likely) that will be bused to this colossal $27 million dollar monument to ignorance:

"It is one thing to offer alternative histories, but to link huge branches of science with moral corruption is not going to be good for the cultivation of open-minded, curious citizenry. The socially conservative political stance of the museum is prevalent in almost every exhibit, but the coup de grace is the "Culture in Crisis" exhibit. Here the museum gives us a "natural history" of the breakdown of the American family. Visitors are invited to look through three windows of a contemporary American home. Videos loop to show two young boys looking at porn on the computer and experimenting with drugs. Another window shows a young girl crying, surrounded by abortion pamphlets. And finally the parents are shown arguing. A recreated church facade stands at the other end of the room, but the foundation of the church has been damaged by a large wrecking-ball labeled "millions of years." The signage explains that the cause of all this misery is our move away from Genesis and toward the scientific ideas of geology and evolution. Ideas about an old earth make people feel small and insignificant, so naturally they do drugs and have abortions." (See "Solomon's House: The Deeper Agenda of the New Creation Museum in Kentucky" by Stephen T. Asma http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-05-23.html)

A child can now be raised almost entirely inside a hermetically sealed fundamentalist bubble. They can be home schooled or attend "Bible believing" Christian schools K-12 and then attend fundamentalist universities such as Patrick Henry, Liberty, or Regent (to name but a very few). With the V chip parents can block "non Christian influences" and can instead provide creationist DVDs, books, and so forth. And now, they have their own museum and state of the art presentations to enhance and bolster their world view. Their mega churches provide the primary social context.

Faith is a very, very hard nut to crack. I know, because I was raised in a pre-millennial, dispensational, fundamentalist home. I grew up as a militant fundamentalist, attending public high school in the 1960s long before such words as "rapture", "tribulation", and "dispensation" became fashionable. I challenged teachers, fellow students, and administrators on a daily basis and they challenged me--I was a hard core anti-evolutionist and read Morris/Whitcomb and dozens of other creationist books. In my college days I even helped sponsor and moderated an all day Creationist seminar (to my shame, I might add). I believe we flew a speaker from the Creation Institute (or whatever it was called then) to speak. What really began my climb out of the pit of fundamentalism was my curiosity about what I was reading. I began to check the sources of the quotations referenced in my creationist books. Surprise, surprise, I found the scientists quoted were unfairly characterized, misquoted, taken out of context, or just plain lied about. The theory of evolution described (caricatured) in the creationist literature bore little or no resemblance to the theory expounded by credible scientists. The creationists even misused the word "theory"! Thus my journey began.

I'm sure this museum is going to pull many of the same old tricks they used 40+ years ago only updated with cgi, animatronics, Dolby sound, and so forth. Unless you can somehow penetrate the bubble and get someone's curiosity aroused, get them to actually take the time to investigate, it is extremely difficult to challenge the cocoon in which they are raised or live.

My only hope is that the opening of this museum might awaken a few of the moderate voices (those who have so vocally condemned Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, Stenger, etc.) to a very real danger. It may sound extreme, but it seems we are heading into a new Dark Age, an age where faith of any kind trumps reason and scientific enquiry. Many of the liberal Christian critics have said they do not know of any Christians who seriously believe in the God Dawkin's describes in the "God Delusion" or that their numbers are so small as to be insignificant. Perhaps we should take up a collection to bus them to Kentucky so they can meet some true believers and thereby broaden their social contacts.

#33

Posted by: vjack | May 27, 2007 1:36 PM

Outstanding collection! Trackback: http://tinyurl.com/ytooz2

#34

Posted by: NewiQue | May 27, 2007 1:40 PM

PZ, you're to be commended for the time you took to compile these resources. But I'm so amazed at how many people so arrogantly attack the museum without having ever walked through it. That's not very scientific at all.

I was at the ribbon-cutting ceremony on Saturday and will be at the public grand opening tomorrow. The place truly is amazing.

Brushing through these comments in here, I saw one thing I should respond to. The sign that PZ posted is not real, which is clearly obvious. Creation Museum does have some billboards around the area that are original designs.

#35

Posted by: Alan Kellogg | May 27, 2007 1:40 PM

Linked and Dugg (#7). Remember to Digg early, often, and posthumously. :)

#36

Posted by: thinkaboutit | May 27, 2007 1:49 PM

PZ, don't you think the response to this kind of mess should be something at the level of the Dover trial? I mean, this wacko is purposefully distorting science and should respond for such. At the very least he should be legally forced to change the use of "science" as suggested above... Unfortunately this isn't even that funny anymore. If not taken seriouslly it may just get worse.

#37

Posted by: Alan Kellogg | May 27, 2007 1:59 PM

BTW, the San Diego Natural History Museum offers free admission to San Diego county residents and active duty military the first Tuesday of each month. June 5th in this caes. If you need to save your money for soem reason, this is a good deal.

The museum also has a permanent exhibition, Fossil Mysteries on 75 million years of Southern Californian and Baja Californian paleontology. If you live in San Diego County or are stationed there, drop in and have a look.

#38

Posted by: John Danley | May 27, 2007 2:06 PM

Is Ken Ham Old Order Amish?

#39

Posted by: Ed Darrell | May 27, 2007 2:07 PM

T. Rex at cocoanuts!!!!???

Clearly the staff this museum doesn't know s--t. Literally.

Coprolites from T. and his kin demonstrate no cocoanut in their diet. None. And Ham and his crew could learn this if they'd look at dinosaur droppings. But as I said, Ham and his crew don't know s--t.

#40

Posted by: Jim Wynne | May 27, 2007 2:13 PM

NewiQue said,

But I'm so amazed at how many people so arrogantly attack the museum without having ever walked through it.

In other words, quoting convicted felon Kent Hovind, "Were you THERE, teacher?" I've never had an anvil fall on my head, but I don't think I need the actual experience in order to confidently predict that it would be unpleasant.

That's not very scientific at all.

Science is all about being able to predict things as a result of experiment and experience. I predict that the Yabba-Dabba museum shrine is a lot of religious nonsense. I base this in part on what Ken Ham himself says about it:

Why is this museum needed?
Our increasingly anti-Christian country must return to a belief in the authority of the Bible and be presented with the life-changing gospel message. Evolutionary indoctrination has undermined the Christian foundations in America.

'Nuff said, I think.

#41

Posted by: NewiQue | May 27, 2007 2:16 PM

You obviously haven't read anything actually from Answers in Genesis. They never claim that T. rex ate coconuts, but that it was originally created vegetarian. It was after the global effects of sin that creatures like some dinosaurs began eating other animals. But still, T. rex had six-inch-long teeth that were sunk only about one inch into the jaw. This is hardly enough support for ripping fresh flesh like Jurassic Park portrays. After the fall of man, T. rex most likely became a scavenger.

#42

Posted by: PZ Myers | May 27, 2007 2:16 PM

Check out the second link in the article. It's a photo tour of the museum.

It's bible stories. Nothing more.

#43

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