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Posted on: June 15, 2007 4:00 AM, by PZ Myers
Most people who are planning to attend YearlyKos in Chicago are planning to do so because of all the politicians and wonks wandering around. Now there's a better reason to go: The Field Museum is going to have an exhibit you won't want to miss — Darwin!
Can you imagine how peeved I am that I can't go now?
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Aaaah yay! We already have plans to go to Chicago in like three weeks to visit my sister!
Posted by: Chinchillazilla | June 15, 2007 4:55 AM
Great! Another darwinian museum, as if we didn't have enough of those.
hmmm... I wonder if this will be fair and balanced view of Darwin?
Forget my above question.
For the better or for the worse? Don't forget to include in there all the racist, and mysogynistic remarks he made on the "The Descent of Man" and other writtings.
As always, the strawman arguements are present:
Nonsense. The world before Darwin believed that humans were linked with nature, NOT by common descent, BUT by Common Designer.Misrepresentation of the opponents must be one of the reasons why people are skeptical of unguided evolutionism. Keep it up!
By the way, I noticed that my post regarding the rabbidness of atheists was deleted? I guess that proves my point regarding the "tolerance" of atheists, doesn't it?
Posted by: Mats | June 15, 2007 6:26 AM
Well, Chicago is only a six or seven hour ride from Minneapolis. I don't know how far it is from Morris but it's a fairly easy trip unless you get stuck in construction traffic along 94 or 90. See the Darwin exhibit but also look who lives next door to the Field Museum!
Posted by: mena | June 15, 2007 7:03 AM
Mats
Perhaps you could open a god exhibit that features the BiBULL as the written word of god. Oh, and don't forget to include the racist, and misogynistic remarks from that work.
Posted by: Bifrost | June 15, 2007 7:30 AM
I was fortunate enough to be able to catch the Darwin exhibit (several times!) at the MOS in Boston. It was *so cool* to see the actual specimens he had collected in the Galapagos, his diary, and other personal artifacts.
I know I should ignore the trolls, but come on, Mats -- evolution *is* the foundation of all (reputable) modern biology. Even my born-again bio professor in college had NO problem accepting Christ *and* not denying the evidence before him that evolution was (as he thought of it) the way in which the Creator made the world. You don't have to be a literalist to be a Christian. Christ never said anything about 6 literal days of creation. He never said a word about evolution. The important thing to him was that you have a relationship with God. Period. He probably wouldn't care that you're wearing a mixed-fiber shirt of pants, either (although that gets way more attention in the OT than 6 literal days do).
Posted by: jan andrea | June 15, 2007 8:46 AM
Saw it in Philly where it made an extra stop. It, indeed, was sensational.
Just seeing this (with those words "I think")
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/darwin/idea/treelg.php
sent a chill down my spine. I would see the exhibit again in a second and hope to go to England for the anniversary and see the Down House.
Posted by: Marcia | June 15, 2007 8:48 AM
Niles Eldredge, who organized the thing, opened the exhibit last night with a great presentation, which ended with a discussion of ID as just another retread of creationism.
Posted by: Foggg | June 15, 2007 9:05 AM
Jan Andrea: I saw the exhibit in Boston, too. It was very interesting and *so cool* just as you say! The inclusion of live specimens helped it all - for lack of a better term - come alive. :-)
Nice try with Mats, but IMO Mats has proven himself to be a troll. He throws down the gauntlet, then disregards the responses except to spit at the feet of anyone who took the time to compose a meaningful reply, ignores everything that contradicts or even challenges his pre-set beliefs, then projects that behavior on everyone else. (In other words, he behaves as one would expect an anti-evolution cave troll to behave.) A quick review of the Gigantoraptor thread demonstrates and confirms this. Further evidence may be unearthed in older Pharyngula entries - but why bother, eh?
He had his chance. The door to discourse was open, but he slammed it in everyone's face. Repeatedly. Like the Terminator, that's what he does. That's ALL he does.
The good news is, as Stogoe so generously put it:
We can only hope the pattern repeats.
Posted by: Kseniya | June 15, 2007 9:30 AM
YEAH -- I'm already planning on being in Chicago this weekend doing some museum hopping.
Posted by: No One of Consequence | June 15, 2007 9:31 AM
I'm guessing that the Darwin exhibit doesn't have a big sign that says "Don't think, just listen and believe" like a certain mythology museum that recently opened.
I'm wondering if Ham realizes what great reverse psychology he has going with his sign?
Posted by: No One of Consequence | June 15, 2007 9:48 AM
Mats said:
So, you either have not heard of, or you deny, all the "Judeo-Christian civilization" stuff going around? You're allowed to disagree with other idiots in the fundy camp, Mats, but you're not allowed to try to change the facts. You may think, as the "savages" thought, that pre-Darwin humans thought they were part of a big Circle of Life. That notion was quite anathemic to Christendom, however. The world, including "savages," were to be exploited, damn the torpedoes.
You could look it up. Got any books?
Posted by: Ed Darrell | June 15, 2007 10:45 AM
Great! Another darwinian museum, as if we didn't have enough of those.
TROOOOOLL the ancient yuletide carol...
Posted by: DC | June 15, 2007 11:07 AM
Finally! FINALLY! I thought I had missed it when I didn't drag my sweetie to NY and I didn't see it on the Field Museum's site!
Heh. We've already discussed going to Chicago. Yay!
Posted by: Kristine | June 15, 2007 11:23 AM
Peeved that you can't go?
Isn't it the case that you had actually confirmed to attend YearlyKos, but then you reneged because you got a better offer?
Posted by: SteveK | June 15, 2007 11:26 AM
I love Chicago. One more reason to get there this year (as if I needed any).
Be sure to drop into Buddy Guy's place (without the kids): http://www.buddyguys.com/index.html
See if Macy's has succeeded in choking all the Marshall Fields out of the old store.
Shed a tear for Berghoff's (d. 1/2006).
But there's much, much more.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | June 15, 2007 11:50 AM
Can't go? You're busy nonstop until the first of January, 2008? Come on! Extra inducement: they have a ginormous squid on the ceiling.
Posted by: Chakolate | June 15, 2007 9:17 PM
Mats, reality check.
Posted by: Manly Tears | June 16, 2007 9:05 AM