Pharyngula

International man of mystery

So now the tale of the lying creationists of Expelled has made the Grauniad. Somebody let me know when my name is mentioned in Le Monde.

Mark Mathis must be happy about this. He is, after all, the “The No-Spin Doctor” who “demonstrates that most of what you need to understand about attracting great publicity, delivering excellent quotes, or managing a media crisis you already know.”. He certainly is getting lots of international attention now, but I would think that a reputation as a dishonest fraud and creationist hack isn’t exactly what most people would desire, and hunkering down and hiding isn’t exactly the cleverest way to manage a media crisis.

I guess that when all you’ve got to work with is lies, becoming a really good liar is an accomplishment.

Comments

  1. #1 John Pieret
    September 28, 2007

    Somebody let me know when my name is mentioned in Le Monde.

    Um … does WingNutDaily count?

    Unlike other popular documentary films, “Expelled” isn’t one-sided – it confronts scientists like Oxford evolutionist Richard Dawkins, author of “The God Delusion,” influential biologist and atheist blogger P.Z. Myers, and Eugenie Scott, head of the National Center for Science Education.

    Nice trinity.

  2. #2 Brownian
    September 28, 2007

    Stein denied in the New York Times that he had misled anyone. “I don’t remember a single person asking me what the movie was about,” he said. The film company said the movie’s title was changed on the advice of marketing experts.

    Anybody here ever been in a film and not asked what it was about? Is that even possible?

    Years ago I was in a public health commercial for problem gamblers. There was a close-up on my hands as I placed a bet on the roulette table. I’m pretty darn sure I asked what the commercial was about before I signed any waivers, and it was’t even a speaking part. (I swear I asked the director what my hands’ motivations were.)

    Ben Stein is stupid. He wasn’t even all that good on Win Ben Stein’s Money when the questions didn’t deal with political trivialities like the colour of Spiro Agnew’s underwear.

  3. #3 Bad
    September 28, 2007

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Stein’s quote in the NYTimes article grossly misleading? I mean, as far as I know, it wasn’t Stein that either set up or conducted the interview with PZ and the others, yet he implies that the complaints are baseless because “no one ever asked what the film would be about.” Can PZ confirm that Stein wasn’t even mentioned at all in the release and discussion of the original film?

    If that’s the case, then Stein is implying that he personally interviewed people like Scott, PZ, and Dawkins and they didn’t ask him what the film was about, when in fact the only people he had anything to do with interviewing were the pro-ID folks, who of course had probably already been told that “From Darwin to Hitler” (working title!) would be to their liking and so had no need to ask.

  4. #4 yoshi
    September 28, 2007

    Maybe its what I do for a living and my general paranoid nature but I am having a hard time buying that someone wouldn’t do more research about the people that want to interview them. Or at least ask some probing questions during the interview.

    So PZ, Dawkins, and everyone else who was interviewed do not have my sympathy. It all comes off as a little bit naive.

    Is the Bell Auditorium thing tonight going to talk about this at all?

  5. #5 PZ Myers
    September 28, 2007

    There was no mention of Stein in any of the preludes to the interview. I was not interviewed by Stein, and neither was Eugenie Scott; Dawkins might have been, except that he isn’t able to recognize Stein and had never heard of him before.

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