Pharyngula

Well, lookee here … an announcement in the local Morris paper.

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 7

TOM DEROSA will be at Morris Evangelical Free Church at 6:30 p.m., to present a creationist’s perspective about evolution. DeRosa’s presentation is free and open to the public.

I don’t think I have any plans for Sunday night. Wouldn’t an evening with an old pal of D. James Kennedy and the founder of the Creation Studies Institute be buckets of fun?

You should listen to his testimonial. He claims to be an atheist who was teaching evolution in the public schools (he was teaching physics and chemistry, though — what was he doing teaching biology?), and got upset because they cut back the science curriculum from a year to half a year. So he’s talking to someone at D. James Kennedy’s private Christian school (why?), and offers to apply for a position opening up there (what?), and his wife organizes a prayer chain so that the interview will go well (what? what?), and at the interview he learns that salvation is not a consequence of works as he previously thought (what? what? what?) but faith, and takes the job and becomes a Christian. Why, He sounds just like a real atheist.

Oh, and they have a “museum”, too.

If you’d rather not come out to Morris, DeRosa is going to be scuttling about this part of the state for a whole week, so you might find him closer to home, poisoning your community’s children’s minds. Of course, the Morris event will have the advantage of a more interesting audience. Heh.

Comments

  1. #1 Brownian
    October 3, 2007

    And stop talking about me as if I’m not even lurking. Calvinists have feelings too, you know.

    How many points does Heddle get for his sense of humour?

  2. #2 Blake Stacey
    October 3, 2007

    There were things to like in Harris’s little spiel, but it left me unmoved, both emotionally and intellectually. Kudos to the guy for trying to shake things up, but he just didn’t persuade.

    Anybody who has witnessed Terrorism become the new Communism (to wax a little snowclonish) will recognize that new words can be given the emotional baggage of the old ones. Merely changing your label won’t win the rhetorical battle. . . and if you don’t give yourself a label, a person with less patience and tolerance for subtlety will stick one upon you. Consider that inane coinage of Wired, the appellation “New Atheist” itself. Do all the authors whose books are shelved together as “The New Atheism” agree with one another? No. Do the people who read those books follow their authors in all intellectual decisions of consequence? Nope. If I wrote a book, we’d have a “New Atheist” author who disagreed with Hitchens about the Iraq war, Dawkins about group selection, and Harris about “spirituality”. Better call me a “New Atheist” of the Sokal-Blackford-Avalos-Nanda-Myers Reformation!

    Yet, to the self-appointed professional pundit class, “New Atheists” we are, and “New Atheists” we shall always be — one equal temper of subversive heart. If you get any attention at all, that’s the treatment you will receive, whether you call yourself a Bright or a Skeptic or a Secular Humanist. And if you choose the hermetic path, if you forsake the limelight and walk the Earth (you know, like Kane in Kung Fu) to provoke the faculties of critical thought one mind at a time — well, we’ve tried that, and look where it got us.

    Harris’s defense of the whole “spirituality” thing also lacked punch. Not only did it seem like a distraction from the tactical and strategic case he was trying to make, but also it missed the point of the complaints directed at him. I won’t claim familiarity with the whole Satanic Talmud of commentary which has grown up around the Uppity Atheist Bookshelf, but I think it’s fair to say that people like Meera Nanda are concerned with the way Harris imputes empirical truth value to the claims of the mystics.

  3. #3 Monado
    October 6, 2007

    If you want to study up on your hymns, this page has lyrics to the tune of “That Old Time Religion,” including several for atheists:

    http://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/realotr.htm

    although my favourite is still about Aprhodite and her see-through nightie.

  4. #4 Monado
    October 6, 2007

    If you want to study up on your hymns, this page has lyrics to the tune of “That Old Time Religion,” including several for atheists:

    http://www.whitetreeaz.com/vintage/realotr.htm

    although my favourite is still about Aprhodite and her see-through nightie.

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