Pharyngula

Poor baby has issues

Let’s get this out of the way: I really, honestly, truly do not give a good goddamn if Dumbledore is gay. He’s a fictional character, the author is getting a little too freakily obsessive over her characters, and it doesn’t affect me one way or the other how the character swings. So Rowling says he’s gay. Eh. Move on.

It only gets interesting when a certain ID proponent who has weebled on about how delightfully Christian the Harry Potter books are hears that her imaginary character imaginarily experiences arousal over another imaginary character who is, imaginarily, of the same sex as he is. This prompts an immediate long outburst declaring that Dumbledore is NOT Gay! That would conflict with his perception that the books are Christian allegory, and as everyone knows, no true Christian could be gay, just as there are no homosexuals anywhere in Iran.

It’s more fuss over nothing. Dumbledore could have been written up as a flaming ponce who hung out in the Hogsmeade Bathhouse every weekend and did drag cabaret for fun, and you could still read Christian themes into the book, no problem. Of course, the Christian verisimilitude would have been enhanced if Dumbledore had also called the boys in to his office for regular ‘discipline’ sessions of a nature best described in off-canon fanfic, but he seems to have been free of that pedophilic poison that we find rife in ecclesiastical organizations.

Comments

  1. #1 Brownian
    October 23, 2007

    Now her opinions no longer matter, just her text.

    John Mark Reynolds better be a Biblical literalist then. Because his opinions on Xianity don’t matter, just the text.

    Can these fucking Xians ever apply a thought or an idea generally? Or is everything they say and do subject to ad- and post hoc rationalisations?

  2. #2 Blake Stacey
    October 23, 2007

    Rowling’s “backstory” for Dumbledore has already influenced what’s going to happen in the movies, so his sexuality is moving up the canon scale. It’s out of the Apocrypha and into the Writings, though only a dedicated exegete could find it in the Prophets.

    I’m always a little bit bugged when those nice Christians grab at every story, or the entire phenomenon of goodness, and claim it as exclusive Christian property.

    Objectivists do the same thing, I’ve noticed. Any story which has the slightest thing to do with individuality and personal expression becomes an Objectivist narrative. I mean, can you honestly see Ayn Rand in The Giver?

  3. #3 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    It’s more fuss over nothing.

    in case nobody has mentioned it yet, this reminds me of the then vice pres. Quayle obsessing over something “Murphy Brown” said on a then popular TV show.

    fucking idiots, the lot of em.

    OTOH, it goes to show how much influence fiction has on these folks, which shouldn’t be surprising since they spend a good portion of their lives worshiping a fictional book to begin with.

  4. #4 David Marjanovi?, OM
    October 23, 2007

    Let’s just get one thing straight. There *are* Christian themes in the HP books. I’m not making this up. I have it on the same authority that tells me Albus Dumbledore is gay — JK Rowling says so.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1572107/20071017/index.jhtml

    Interesting.

    But while the book begins with a quote on the immortal soul — and though Harry finds peace with his own death at the end of his journey — it is the struggle itself which mirrors Rowling’s own, the author said.

    “The truth is that, like Graham Greene, my faith is sometimes that my faith will return. It’s something I struggle with a lot,” she revealed. “On any given moment if you asked me [if] I believe in life after death, I think if you polled me regularly through the week, I think I would come down on the side of yes — that I do believe in life after death. [But] it’s something that I wrestle with a lot. It preoccupies me a lot, and I think that’s very obvious within the books.”

    Looks to me like she wants to believe but actually doesn’t…

    —————-

    But don’t get too het up about it.

    :-o

    Wow. Is that “heat — het — het” in analogy to “lead — led — led” and/or in order not to insert an extra syllable into “heat up”? A verb that becomes irregular (heat — heated — heated) rather than regular over time? That would be fascinating. I can send swarms of linguists over here. Should I?

  5. #5 David Marjanovi?, OM
    October 23, 2007

    Let’s just get one thing straight. There *are* Christian themes in the HP books. I’m not making this up. I have it on the same authority that tells me Albus Dumbledore is gay — JK Rowling says so.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1572107/20071017/index.jhtml

    Interesting.

    But while the book begins with a quote on the immortal soul — and though Harry finds peace with his own death at the end of his journey — it is the struggle itself which mirrors Rowling’s own, the author said.

    “The truth is that, like Graham Greene, my faith is sometimes that my faith will return. It’s something I struggle with a lot,” she revealed. “On any given moment if you asked me [if] I believe in life after death, I think if you polled me regularly through the week, I think I would come down on the side of yes — that I do believe in life after death. [But] it’s something that I wrestle with a lot. It preoccupies me a lot, and I think that’s very obvious within the books.”

    Looks to me like she wants to believe but actually doesn’t…

    —————-

    But don’t get too het up about it.

    :-o

    Wow. Is that “heat — het — het” in analogy to “lead — led — led” and/or in order not to insert an extra syllable into “heat up”? A verb that becomes irregular (heat — heated — heated) rather than regular over time? That would be fascinating. I can send swarms of linguists over here. Should I?

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