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« But what about a Post-Republican reality? | Main | This is the Hitchens I like »

Hey, Metropolitan Minnesota residents!

Category: Politics
Posted on: October 16, 2007 5:09 PM, by PZ Myers

I just got word that there will be a vigil outside Michele Bachmann's Woodbury office, tonight at 7, with students coming in by bus from SCSU. This is to protest her opposition to SCHIP and, I presume, her support for the war. You've still got time to join them!

Her office is at 6043 Hudson Rd, Suite 330, Woodbury, MN 55125. Give her lots of grief.

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#1

Not quite in focus, but probably the funniest sentence I've ever read from an IDiot:

Those Swedes have alot of nerve suppressing good science like that. I guess they'll also make sure that the Nobel Prize never goes to any ID friendly work.

Of course, it's "as seen on Uncommon Descent" : http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/banning-id-in-sweden/#comment-142521

Posted by: Silly Designer | October 16, 2007 5:29 PM

#2
You've still got time to join them!

Yes, but I'm not sure I have enough garlic or holy water.

Posted by: Dustin | October 16, 2007 5:31 PM

#3

Silly Designer, I thought this was more funny;

The new face of fascism: pluralism

Though the entire thread is very funny, especially the bits about Galileo.

Posted by: Janine | October 16, 2007 5:38 PM

#4

Dustin, you big silly. Just fill a bottle from the tap and say it's holy water. Not like they can tell the difference or anything.

Posted by: Joshua | October 16, 2007 5:43 PM

#5

That would mean going to Woodbury and protesting Bachmann is not a good enough reason to go there - even tho I was born and raised there. Yet another poorly planned desolate suburb.

Posted by: yoshi | October 16, 2007 5:56 PM

#6

Silly Designer and Janine, the first one was my favorite:
We need to start offering political assylum to Europeans.
Assylum? They want to make sure that those unenlightened Europeans get Fox News? Would the wannabes who seem to love to perform the ever-popular fake outrage script be ass-simulated? Damn, I have been hanging out with the husband and brother-in-law too much. They love puns!

Posted by: Mena | October 16, 2007 6:19 PM

#7

Oh my! I do not want any arguments over what is the funniest bit of stupidity. Too many gems to be enjoyed!

Posted by: Janine | October 16, 2007 7:24 PM

#8

Well, that sure was painful. I had never bothered to actually go over to "Uncommon Descent" before. I wish I hadn't. Ignorance on that level should be lethal.

Posted by: Dahan | October 16, 2007 7:42 PM

#9

Yeah, he was good, but what's up with his constant comments about how he can't get an erection?

Posted by: Ric | October 16, 2007 7:49 PM

#10

Hehe... whoops, sorry. I meant to comment on the Hitchens post.

Posted by: Ric | October 16, 2007 7:52 PM

#11

It should be but it isn't. With stuff like take, I swing back and forth between being amused and being horrified. Today, I am amused. HA-HA. They think we want to shot Dembski in the head. Because darwinists are the moral equivalent to communism/fascism. Pure gold.

Darwinists are getting desperate.

Project much?

Posted by: Janine | October 16, 2007 7:52 PM

#12

Good. Glad you guys are giving Represenative Bachmann the business. The Senate has a veto proof majority to override the President's veto, but the house is still about 20 votes short.

Posted by: Dirk Diggler | October 16, 2007 8:20 PM

#13
Well, that sure was painful. I had never bothered to actually go over to "Uncommon Descent" before. I wish I hadn't. Ignorance on that level should be lethal.
To irony-meters, it is.

My favourite (although it is hard) is this:

(It would be like the Scopes trial all over again, only this one wouldn't be a rigged show trial.)

What was the verdict, again?

Bob

Posted by: Bob O'H | October 17, 2007 1:03 AM

#14

How come most of the comments have nothing to do with the post?

Posted by: BigBob | October 17, 2007 8:30 AM

#15

This Event was quite a success even though Bachman was not in her office at the time. We had about 200 people show up and there were plenty of people taking pictures and there were folks with video camras so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some videos up on youtube of this.
Unfortunately all this bad publicity over her stance in Iraq this summer and now SCHIP hasn't seems to have hurt Bachman in fundraising. She raised $311,041 in contributions from July through September which was just shy $1 of the congressional candidate, Tim Walz who is leading the fundraising so far in MN.
Of the Candidates in the Democratic primary intending to run against her Bob Olsen only raised $31,000 and Tinklenberg just had his announcent speech (At the DFL office in St. Cloud) the other week and has yet to file any numbers.
Last Year the Bachman Wetterling race was the most expensive congressional race in the United States and with a jerrymandered district around the pro-life issue It looks like whoever gets the primary nomination is going to have a tough time with those single issue voters even though Bachman has proven herself a failure time and time again.

Posted by: Alaric Myers | October 17, 2007 3:08 PM

#16

Unfortunately didn't have the desired effect. I posted some photos from my local vigil in the Chicago area:
http://beautyandhappiness.com/vigil-to-save-childrens-health-care-glen-ellyn/

Posted by: Kevin | October 20, 2007 12:56 AM

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