Here's a nice collection of anti-creationism cartoons, all in one place. Very handy!
(via Greg Laden)
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Laughing at them is always a good tactic
Category: Creationism • Humor
Posted on: October 11, 2007 3:54 PM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: Midwestern Gent | October 11, 2007 4:08 PM
Great stuff! I particularly like the Creationist Rheto-o-Matic! I'd love to come up with the atheist version, except it would be correct.
Posted by: Brownian | October 11, 2007 4:15 PM
Cue "framer" complaining that laughing at the IDiots will only alienate the moderates we should be allying ourselves with in 5...4...3...2....
Posted by: No More Mr. Nice Guy! | October 11, 2007 4:48 PM
What does E=mc2 have to do with evolution?
Posted by: Dan | October 11, 2007 4:53 PM
The best answer I can come up with is that relativity made certain man-made, serious evolutionary events possible. You'll notice calculators and a telescope are there too, however- it's probably the general scientific principle, rather than evolution specifically being pointed out as a superior method.
Posted by: Blaine | October 11, 2007 5:04 PM
Re #3
E=mc2 links to evolution through the use of radiometric dating. Einstein's equation is central to ideas of radioactive decay and isotope generation which allows us to know the ages of fossils and the rocks in which they are embedded.
Posted by: Blaine | October 11, 2007 5:16 PM
Additionally, the telescope is another line of evidence supporting the idea that the earth and the universe are old. This gives evolution the time required to operate through natural selection.
That is the power of science right there; its ability to use many lines of evidence to present a clear and provocative story that explains the evidence. While there is very little that we can know with absolute certainty, we can be very confident precisely because so many different approaches support our conclusions.
In some ways I think that is why creationists don't understand how scientists can be so sure. Without formal trianing or at least some serious effort it is hard to learn enough about the many disparate fields of science and realize that they support each other. Science is not a bunch of disconnected facts. There exists a whole narrative that is often times lost when trying to explain science to the general public.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | October 11, 2007 5:18 PM
Laughter, when it comes to religiotards, is the best offense.
Religion (and therefore its practitioners) take themselves so seriously, it's an earth-shaking paradigm shift when they suddenly realize "Hey. That guy really does think I am a d0rk!" They think they're rational, which is why they're willing to argue interminably and pointlessly contribute to global warming with all the greenhouse gasses they emit - but being greeted with laughter is something they're not prepared for. It'd be hard to remain smug while preparing oneself to withstand wintry blasts of contempt or sulphurous lava-like outflows of mirth.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | October 11, 2007 5:24 PM
That is the power of science right there; its ability to use many lines of evidence to present a clear and provocative story that explains the evidence.
That is the power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster! No possible avenue of reason escapes the touch of his noodly appendage! No matter how many different paths you take to approach a problem, he'll carefully fool you so that you have a consistent (but wrong) view of the universe! What a joker. :)
Posted by: Rey Fox | October 11, 2007 5:34 PM
Re: #3 by way of #5: Plus, it's easier to read in a small comic format than the Hardy-Weinberg equation.
Posted by: Fernando Magyar | October 11, 2007 7:41 PM
The cartoons are funny, what isn't funny is this advertising link on their page.
http://www.thegassecret.com
This is a notorious MLM scam and you'd have to be as stupid as a creationist to buy into it.
http://www.fuelsaving.info/ethos.htm
Posted by: Ross Nixon | October 11, 2007 8:22 PM
Making fun of opponents is an "interesting phenomenon".
It is often indulged in by defenders of bogus theories to assuage their nervous self-doubting and reveals their intellectual bankruptcy.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | October 11, 2007 8:31 PM
Making fun of opponents is an "interesting phenomenon".
It is often indulged in by defenders of bogus theories to assuage their nervous self-doubting and reveals their intellectual bankruptcy.
Other times, it's just fun to have a good laugh at a bugf*ck nutter and it reveals the contempt you have for their views.
There's definitely a fine line that ridicule can cross and become ridiculous.
Posted by: Blaine | October 11, 2007 8:31 PM
Re # 9
Good point! That is much pithier than what I said.
Posted by: vhutchison | October 11, 2007 8:38 PM
Many additional cartoons are available under the 'Humor'link on the web site of Oklahomans for Excellence in Science Education (OESE): http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/oese/
Posted by: Caledonian | October 11, 2007 9:58 PM
Einstein's formula is merely a commonly-recognzied 'sciency' thing. Like white lab coats and pocket protectors.
Posted by: Efrique | October 11, 2007 11:00 PM
May I humbly suggest the following:
http://ecstathy.blogspot.com/2007/10/faith-based-mathematics.html
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck, FCD | October 11, 2007 11:02 PM
thanks, vhutchinson. Lots more good stuff.
I found this gem.
http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/oese/CartoonDoverDecision.jpg
Not so much humour as sly wit, but check out who published it.
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck, FCD | October 11, 2007 11:06 PM
We can point Brownian's predicted Framers to the CSM, when they express their deep concern.
Posted by: Tatarize | October 11, 2007 11:19 PM
@3, Nothing. Though, I have had debates over the theory of relativity with creationists. It's the most absurd thing ever. But it happens.
Posted by: Dave Child | October 12, 2007 3:40 AM
Love the TB one :)
If you like those, you might like the small selection of cartoons I had done a while back for a site I was working on (all along similar lines) that never made it out of the gate. They're at http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/blog/arguing-origins/
Posted by: Alan Kellogg | October 12, 2007 4:39 AM
And then doctors started using leeches again.
(Cue irate comment asking moi what I'm babbling about in 5...4...3...)
Posted by: Roinis? | October 12, 2007 8:35 AM
E=mc2 is just a symbol for science.
Posted by: Greg Laden | October 12, 2007 9:20 AM
PZ: Your choice of which cartoon to highlight was one of my favorites. The preponderance of evidence vs. the preponderance of somebody's elbow. A gossamer thin metaphor what is behind most creationist rhetoric and activity: Intentional lies and misdirection. In other words, sin.
Posted by: truthilicious | October 12, 2007 9:50 AM
Ah, dear Marcus Ranum (#12)... spoken like one who spent his formative years bullied and maligned by athletic-types, shunned by those of the opposite sex, and stewing in his own self-righteousness. Very sad indeed.
Join us - the sane, rational, moderate people - at the table, he of little tolerance and much acrimony; for there are many of us whose lives are consumed with Science and the belief in its role in all things, but who also believe there is more to the universe than theories, laws, and equations could ever explain. You need not lump us all in with the extreme right... lest ye desire to be labeled as a loony lefty! (Perhaps you are cool with that designation... in which case, enjoy that organic granola my Birkenstock-wearing friend, and I will pray that you may be forgiven for your crass, myopic views).
Peace out.
Posted by: John Phillips | October 12, 2007 10:48 AM
Lucky you Marcus, you have a concern troll all to yourself and even praying for you :) Aren't you blessed :)
RAmen
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | October 12, 2007 8:49 PM
truthilicious writes:
I will pray that you may be forgiven for your crass, myopic views
fuckwit.
Posted by: truthilicious | October 14, 2007 4:00 PM
"fuckwit?"
For a self-proclaimed intellectual like yourself, I would have expected something a bit more, well, "intelligent."
And John Phillips - troll? You don't know me, yet you so quickly leap to such slander. Very, very sad indeed.
I can see you "intellectuals" are really no better than the extreme right-wing douches you loathe... what a pity... you're not doing much to win people over to your cause.