Hey, everyone, I said I was going to be in Washington DC this weekend, with the notorious Phil Plait. We've compared notes and figured out our schedules, and are ready to announce a time and place for a general meetup: 9pm, Saturday, 10 November at the Senators Sports Bar at Holiday Inn on the Hill (here's a map). There may be some other infamous bloggers on hand, too — we'll invite them, but well, you know, this is going to be a gathering of High Nerddom, and it may be a bit intimidating to normal people.
Now go vote for Bad Astronomy for Best Science Blog. He's behind that front for denialists blog, and this is the last day…help him out! If he doesn't win, everyone will have to buy lots of Bubble Me Blue martinis to console him.










Comments
Posted by: viggen | November 8, 2007 10:19 AM
I would vote for him and have tried a lot of times, but the link never seems to work.
Posted by: Clare | November 8, 2007 10:42 AM
Yes, I've been unable to get to the site several times also. But I managed to this morning, and Bad Astronomy is running second, so everyone better hop in fast and vote!
Posted by: Theo Richel | November 8, 2007 10:47 AM
Can you please tell me what exactly it is that McIntyre DENIES and please with references to quotes from his site.
Many thanks,
TR
Posted by: Gobear | November 8, 2007 10:50 AM
AAARGH!! Why, oh, why, oh WHY does this have to be the same night that I'm required to attend a family event? Dang, dang, dang! I would love to meet both you and Phil, and now it isn't going to happen!
And how on earth is a denialist blog even in the same category as Bad Astronomy?
Posted by: iconoclast | November 8, 2007 11:06 AM
Anyone who claims Climate Audit is a "denialist" site has obviously never bothered to have a look at it.
Steve McIntyre the blog owner supports the idea of global warming he's just just questioning some of the science - and rightly so.
Have a look for yourself and leave politics out of it.
Posted by: Peter M. | November 8, 2007 11:07 AM
I shall try to be there in DC, assuming I'm recovered sufficiently from having my gall bladder out yesterday.
Posted by: Brett M | November 8, 2007 11:19 AM
Wow, cool... hope I can make it down!
Posted by: Shawn Wilkinson | November 8, 2007 11:27 AM
People honestly read CA? Excuse me as I vomit.
Posted by: Cain | November 8, 2007 11:28 AM
Hmm, not only do you schedule the meetup in my city but in my neighborhood as well. You're making this too easy.
Posted by: caynazzo | November 8, 2007 11:37 AM
So what are we supposed to bring for Myers to autograph? I have a squid t-shirt and a z-fish poster but that's about it.
Posted by: Josh | November 8, 2007 11:54 AM
Saturday night? Awesome. I'm in.
Posted by: Theo Richel | November 8, 2007 12:40 PM
Shawn: Vomit, why? All Steve McIntyre does is checking other peoples figures. Does the General Accounting Office make you vomit as well? Or is climate science excluded from scrutiny?
If you are so against him why not fight him then? Show him his calculations are wrong, isnt that the scientific way?
Posted by: Ragu | November 8, 2007 12:42 PM
PZ, I hate it when you sound like such a sore loser! If you disagree with another blogger, why not challenge him to a one on one podcast or other debate forum? Ad hominems cast you in a bad light, make you look small.
We expect that sort of thing from the peanut gallery, but not from you. Thanks.
Posted by: Theo Richel | November 8, 2007 12:56 PM
Right! Debate, open confrontation, transparancy. TYhat is the only way to get to the truth, not by shouting from the sideline.
And my question still stand: what does McIntyre DENY?
Posted by: Michelle | November 8, 2007 1:01 PM
That's such a shame. BA's more than a thousand votes behind right now.
It's a shame that pitiful whiners are gonna win. I don't care about the climate debate - they've been behaving like little offended virgins and I hate that.
Posted by: Josh | November 8, 2007 1:06 PM
"little offended virgins"
brilliant
Posted by: Michel | November 8, 2007 1:16 PM
Next thing you know, the little offended virgins will be demanding reparations! Pitiful whiners!
Posted by: Theo Richel | November 8, 2007 1:22 PM
Michelle, I'd wish you would be more clear, WHY offended virgins, why pitiful whiners?
Posted by: Pat Frank | November 8, 2007 1:26 PM
"He's behind that front for denialists blog"
It's impressive to see someone who presents a science-nerd front descend into delusional politics on a scientific subject.
ClimateAudit is not a 'denialist front.' Using that pejorative is ipso facto a demonstration of prejudice.
Posted by: Jewel | November 8, 2007 1:59 PM
Saturday night. Cool. I hope we can make it because it would be great to be able to meet the both of you.
Posted by: per | November 8, 2007 2:04 PM
Bubble Me Blue martinis all around !
Posted by: Dustin | November 8, 2007 2:16 PM
Actually, it's far worse than that... he's running a science-nerd front and commenting on bad science! He doesn't even have the decency to inject politics into the discussion for the pundits to scream about! For shame, PZ.
Is there a Dinesh D'Souza or William F. Buckley, Jr. cloning program that I didn't hear about? I wouldn't ask, it's just that the number of self-important, disingenuous and pretentious assholes infesting the comments has been higher than usual lately.
Ahh well... it isn't anything that a good fumigation can't fix.
Posted by: Zarquon | November 8, 2007 2:25 PM
Wow, the denialists are so far into denial that they're denying they're denialists.
Posted by: Mark | November 8, 2007 2:35 PM
PZ, did you and Phil get my restaurant recommendation for calamari and grilled octopus? You're actually on the other side of the Hill from it, but it's still not too far.
There are also 2 decent "Irish pubs" near your place.
Posted by: PZ Myers | November 8, 2007 2:42 PM
Yes, I got it.
I may go there Friday. You know, I get in the day before Phil, and will be hanging about around the hotel that evening -- if people can't make it Saturday but want to meet Friday, we could probably arrange a Phil-less meetup.
Posted by: dan | November 8, 2007 2:48 PM
holy crap, you two in DC?
i'm in!
hopefully i'll see you there.
Posted by: Dustin | November 8, 2007 3:03 PM
"We could probably arrange a Phil-less meetup," PZ said as he turned on his cement mixer.
Posted by: Ross Nixon | November 8, 2007 3:05 PM
Hooray for ClimateAudit.
It's time for science to reassert itself over socialist pseudoscience.
Posted by: Connecticut Man1 | November 8, 2007 4:07 PM
Oh crap... I haven't been by here in at least a couple of weeks to read. If I had known I could have added 5 more votes to that tally. I will not go so far as to say I wasted my votes on your blog. But...
Posted by: minimalist | November 8, 2007 4:17 PM
Hahahaha, "socialist," oh lordy.
But the denialists don't have an agenda, nope nope. This is purely non-ideological.
And intelligent design is all about the science, too.
Posted by: Dustin | November 8, 2007 4:17 PM
GE makes about $30k a pop on its solar power systems, fuckhead.
Posted by: Strange Forces | November 8, 2007 4:49 PM
Drat! I will have to work that night. Enjoy DC, PZ, and come back soon!
Posted by: reverted | November 8, 2007 4:58 PM
I'm so glad to see campaign posts for votes for Climate Audit appearing on
theologyonline.com... I mean, it obviously has SO much to do with science! *roll eyes* (The post itself is oh-so-concerned about the science issues, too. lol Basically, "Vote for CA because he's a nice guy, and PZ and BAB are anti-Christian!")
I'm also amused at one of the descriptions given to Pharyngula that I read while browsing around elsewhere: "...an anti-Christian blog occassionally (sic) dedicated to biology..."
Yeah, ok. Suuure.
Unfortunately, people are stuffing the ballot box on both sides (for which I found explicit admission-posts on both sides). Oh well... sit back and enjoy the farce.
I wish the whole thing hadn't turned into a wide-spread campaign, though (e.g., here, here, and here, amongst others).
Incidentally, I've been tracking the data since 10am, Pacific. BAB's votes have been growing at quite a consistent rate (roughly 25 votes/min, with some variation, of course; but, mostly between 20 and 30/min). CA's votes are all over the place. During one 15min period, it received 1709 votes [about 114/min]; during the VERY NEXT 15min period, 61 votes [4/min] (and the next 15mins, 105 votes [7/min]). Something fishy is going on.
Posted by: Josh | November 8, 2007 5:01 PM
Planning on cloistering off a section of the bar?
Posted by: blf | November 8, 2007 5:38 PM
Just look for PZ's land squid. It'll be there to bounce anyone who isn't sufficiently rowdy. ;-)
Posted by: Josh | November 8, 2007 5:44 PM
OK...that was really funny.
Posted by: Dustin | November 8, 2007 6:46 PM
I'm a martini purist so I was afraid to ask what a bubble me blue martini was. I was thinking that I wouldn't be averse to a cocktail made of vodka and blue curacao and, sure enough, that's what a Bubble Me Blue "martini" is.
Other drinks that might be of interest to the Bubble Me Blue "martini" are the Blue Shark and the oasis (which is two measures of vodka, a half measure of the blue shit, and club soda on cracked ice in a highball glass).
It's funny, I picked up a bottle of the blue stuff and some stoli for some weekend boozing just now.
Posted by: Kimpatsu | November 8, 2007 8:26 PM
The polls have closed, and BA has won by a whisker! Yaay!
Posted by: wildlifer | November 9, 2007 7:27 AM
I've been to CA. I've posted at CA. CA is a denialist website.
Posted by: Michelle Rochon | November 9, 2007 9:17 PM
I... um... It's a TIE? With a flush 20,000 each? Please please please tell me, what are the odds?
Posted by: Pamela | November 10, 2007 12:01 PM
That's amazing! A sports bar in Washington DC named after Ottawa's NHL team!?!