…and this is a 
The Huckabee Horror
Category: Politics
Posted on: December 12, 2007 2:06 PM, by PZ Myers
In a field of nightmares, it takes a special person to elevate themselves to the position of the worst of the worst…and Huckabee is that special person.
Here's his special take on the purpose of his presidency…
I didn't get into politics because I thought government had a better answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives…I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ.
And here is his special rationalization for denying gays equal rights…
I don't think the issue's about being against gay marriage. It's about being for traditional marriage and articulating the reason that's important. You have to have a basic family structure. There's never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived.
Actually, he's right. Every civilization redefines its social fabric over time, and no civilization has lasted forever.
I've also learned over my lifetime that the individual will always find that humanity can reach some new, lower depth. I thought Nixon was the worst president ever, until Reagan came along; I thought he was the worst, until W came along; and now I see to my dismay that yes, we could possibly have a president who is even worse than George W. Bush.
Politics
Comments
so, Huckabee, what civilizations have KEPT the "traditional" family structure and still survived?
Posted by: Alec | December 12, 2007 2:10 PM
No...there is no possible way Huckabee could be as bad as Bush. He doesn't have the big Neo-con movement behind him. He would probably be ineffective.
Posted by: James | December 12, 2007 2:13 PM
We've redefined marriage up here in Canada, and it seems that we're doing quite well. Our dollar is stronger than yours, our economy is better than yours, though you do seem to have the edge in hockey prowess these days.
Granted, we do have psychos killing their daughters because of what they wear, but that doesn't have anything to do with relig...oh crap!
Posted by: Mike | December 12, 2007 2:18 PM
I'm confused. Are we an ideological descendent of Babylon, Athens, Rome, and Carthage, or are we an ideological descendent of some idealized anachronistic caricature of the Hebrew people?
Maybe Huckabee can teach us a bit about history, as well as science and ethics and all these other subjects he's clearly an expert on.
Posted by: JDP | December 12, 2007 2:19 PM
Fuck you Huckabee. Read a fucking anthro text on kinship, you lying, deceitful, ignorant, steaming pile of shit.
I'm signing off Pharyngula for the rest of the day, because today, for some reason, I'm so on edge about these assholes I'm about to walk outside my office an punch the nearest priest. And religious or not, the nearest priest probably doesn't deserve that.
Posted by: Brownian, OM | December 12, 2007 2:22 PM
I thought Nixon was the worst president ever, until Reagan came along; I thought he was the worst, until W came along; and now I see to my dismay that yes, we could possibly have a president who is even worse than George W. Bush.
Every once in a while I have to remind myself of when I was proud to be an American.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=USMGOy6ygDg
Maybe someday I will be proud again.
Posted by: The Sinaloa Cowboy | December 12, 2007 2:23 PM
Has anybody else read the Huckabee article on the nytimes.com?
Oh...no...you all have jobs where you have to work?
oh well...either way. If this man becomes president I'm moving.
Posted by: BMatthews | December 12, 2007 2:24 PM
Huckabee sounds like Bush all over again. The light at the end of the tunnel was supposed to be that no matter what his administration has to end and somebody, anybody else will be president. I really don't think I can take it if someone just like Bush ends up being the next president.
To make matters worse, Hilary is the top democrat candidate and polls have indicated she would lose in an election next to all 5 top republican contenders. Including Huckabee.
In the interests of self preservation I think we need to all register as republicans so that we can vote in their primaries to make sure the republican candidate A) won't be Huckabee, and B) is one of the really unpopular choices so that then the democratic candidate would win the election.
Posted by: Karey | December 12, 2007 2:25 PM
If I had to rate the republican presidents from bad to worst I'd go Bush#1 > Ford > Reagan >> Nixon >>> Bush #2.
Posted by: 800guy | December 12, 2007 2:26 PM
Are you kidding? This is GLORIOUS. If Huckabee wins this thing is over. Dems win in a landslide.
Posted by: Chris Bell | December 12, 2007 2:28 PM
If This Goes On...
Posted by: Kseniya | December 12, 2007 2:28 PM
Chris- that's what I thought when they nominated the gibbering idiot Reagan...
Posted by: Steve LaBonne | December 12, 2007 2:29 PM
Andrew Sullivan called Huckabee's current rise among the GOP candidates "Rove's Frankenstein moment."
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2007/11/roves-frankenstein.html
It's not Huckabee, it's the Christianists who are pushing him to the top. There are worse out there than Huckabee that have wanted to be president -- Remember, Pat Robertson himself was once a Republican candidate.
Posted by: Norman Doering | December 12, 2007 2:30 PM
Although I should add that I think Huckabee will just split with Romney, leaving Guiliani as the winner. He will be much harder to beat.
Posted by: Chris Bell | December 12, 2007 2:31 PM
@5 and clapping
Posted by: Josh | December 12, 2007 2:33 PM
Brownian, OM's comment reads like a watered-down, cheap imitation of how I feel about Huckabee. Huckabee's comments are scarry, and his supporters scarrier.
Posted by: J-Dog | December 12, 2007 2:33 PM
Wow, poor Brownian (#5) is having a tense moment. Can't say as I blame him. Definitely agree about the anthro text.
However, Huckabee's not trying to teach kinship relationships. He's trying to coopt the whole concept of 'the family' for his demographic and paint the rest of us as 'anti-family.'
The response to this is simple: what is more destructive to family dynamics, and more harmful to kids generally, than divorce, especially the nasty, never-ending contentious kind? And yet the evangelical pews are FILLED to the rafters with people on their second, third etc. marriage! Where's the evangelical outrage over the skyrocketing divorce rate, including that of evangelicals?
Posted by: Scott Hatfield, OM | December 12, 2007 2:34 PM
Huckabillee for President!
Wellllll, people get the government that they deserve, or so it's said. (Readers of Pharyngula excepted.)
Posted by: Richard Harris | December 12, 2007 2:34 PM
Religion and politics don't mix. Wasn't Jesus killed because of a religion's political agenda?
Posted by: chris | December 12, 2007 2:38 PM
The Republican internecine war has begun, with the first strike being Huckabee's "question" : "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071211/huckabee-mormons/
Mutual Assured Destruction. Oh, this should be good.
Posted by: jeh | December 12, 2007 2:38 PM
Hey cheer up. After Huckabee gets through ruining the country, who will come after him? Given the current progression, someone even worse. You are looking into a bottomless well.
If Huckabee gets elected, I'm just going to give up on the USA. Toynbee said that 18 out of 22 civilizations fell from within. After trying to stop the 23rd, if it is inevitable, one might just as well make some popcorn and watch.
Posted by: raven | December 12, 2007 2:38 PM
Spain redefined marriage. It's still there, much to the annoyance of people here in Portugal. Was there ever a USan election where so many candidates looked they might be the last president of the current republic? Huckabee going for theocracy, Guiliani for outright fascism, Dr. Paul trying to dismantle the state and being overthrown in a bloody coup....
Posted by: Matt Heath | December 12, 2007 2:39 PM
The scariest part of all is that he's looking more and more like the future Republican nominee. Just look at the RCP averages and trends for Iowa:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html
And at the national level:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html
He's even leading at the national level by the Rasmussen poll.
Of course, one look at the other Republicans leads to one conclusion: The Democratic nominee better win the presidency or we are all doomed.
Posted by: Meng Bomin | December 12, 2007 2:39 PM
Why thanks, I feel ever so much more cheerful now. ;)
Posted by: Steve LaBonne | December 12, 2007 2:40 PM
PZ,
Why do you keep doing that?
I just don't get it.
What are you trying to prove?
Can't you leave a dying parapalegic alone for just once?
Posted by: The Sinaloa Cowboy | December 12, 2007 2:44 PM
Huckabee will never win. Acutally I don't think Romney or Gulliani could win either.
Posted by: Stevie_C | December 12, 2007 2:44 PM
Of course I meant "paraplegic"
Posted by: The Sinaloa Cowboy | December 12, 2007 2:46 PM
@8: Actually, some polls show Huckabee losing to the leading Democratic candidates, and losing handily. And yes, that includes losing to Hillary.
Posted by: David | December 12, 2007 2:46 PM
Posted by: buck | December 12, 2007 2:47 PM
The likely source of Huckabee's understanding of Mormonism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo
Whether or not it reflects LDS beliefs is another thing--but it is kinda cool in a strange sci-fi sort of way. Compare and contrast with the Hubbard's creation myth.
Posted by: jeh | December 12, 2007 2:50 PM
So this guy basically said "F*ck the separation of church and state. If I get into the white house, I'm gonna teach all you godless secularists how to love jebus properly." It's a scary thought. Yes, it's unlikely that he'll be our next president but if that's the case, I'm packing up my sh*t the next day and getting the hell out of here.
Posted by: Alexander | December 12, 2007 2:56 PM
I don't know if I accept this or not. There have been more than a few studies that show that children who grow up in 'intact' families where the parents don't get along have hard times perceiving and forming positive relationships later.
A long nasty divorce does no favors to anyone but the divorce itself may not be the problem.
That being said a loving home for children is of course the best fit.
Posted by: Kevindee | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM
What about this piece of flat-out insane pandering from that loon?
Huckabee: "I think we ought to be out there talking about ways to reduce energy consumption and waste. And we ought to declare that we will be free of energy consumption in this country within a decade, bold as that is."
Yes, you read that right -- free of energy consumption.
I guess that will solve the 'obesity crisis' along with all the others.
sigh.
no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott
Posted by: Shirley Knott | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM
free of energy consumption
Nope...we don't need to know anything about science, ladies and gentlemen. We can just trust the Bible as a text. It's the only book you need to read.
Posted by: Josh | December 12, 2007 3:08 PM
Free of energy consumption? Please just tell me that's like a typo or something, right? I mean, even a complete fuckwit like Huckabillie understands the term "consumption", right?
So, how hard is it to emigrate to Canada? I hear that Canadian ballet is the best.
Posted by: Richard Wolford | December 12, 2007 3:15 PM
Hick a bee.
Posted by: SC | December 12, 2007 3:22 PM
I can't believe Huckabee, he is such a religious wackjob that it almost baffles the mind. I mean I don't really like any of the Republican candidates, and Mittler has shown himself to be a religious bigot and generally ignorant possibility, but Huckabee is just evil.
Having spent two years taking classes at a Seminary, I look at people like Huckabee, and ask myself, did they sleep through it all? Or did he just go to a really substandard seminary, without any actual history or critique?
Posted by: thadd | December 12, 2007 3:23 PM
Um... speaking as a representative for The Rest of the World (tm), could you perhaps refrain form electing a theocratic tyrant with access to all your nuclear weapons? We're rather worried about that, you see. Kthxbye.
Posted by: Ted D | December 12, 2007 3:29 PM
Horrible - yes. "Worst of the worst" - not quite. Watching the Republicans debate, I'd have to give that title to Alan Keyes, who manages to invoke god more often than even Huckabee.
Huckabee is, however, infinitely more frightening given his current popularity. And he seems to have that same anti-intellectual charm that Bush used so well to win the votes of the ignorant.
Posted by: MB | December 12, 2007 3:34 PM
Yup and gay people may tie the knot over here in the UK and our pound is very much higher than your dollar. Anecdote has it that it is only the Brits who are keeping the shops in New York afloat. Meanwhile back home in New Zealand which has a better, deeper set civil partnership system than here the government has such a large surplus it is using it to, gasp! pay for infrastructure without borrowing! it's enough to make an international banker feel faint (little wonder that the leader of the right is an international banker, after a palace coup, the madness must be stopped).
So I'm afraid the evidence says otherwise Mr Huckabee, you are plain wrong.
Posted by: Peter Ashby | December 12, 2007 3:37 PM
@26 Well in that case I feel better, last zogby poll summations I read on sunday suggested otherwise but things seem to have changed for the better since then. There is still no excuse for Huckabee heading to the top of the republican race though.
Posted by: Karey | December 12, 2007 3:38 PM
Well, let's consider his cabinet choices:
Secretary of State: Chuck Norris.
Secretary of the Treasury: Creflo Dollar.
Press Secretary: Rush Limbaugh.
Minister for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice: Ted Haggard.
Grand Poobah of All Things Scientifical: Kent Hovind.
The entertainment value of such a comical tragedy (like watching circus clowns get run over by a train) alone is almost worth the price of admission. Almost.
Posted by: FrumiousBandersnark | December 12, 2007 3:39 PM
Ted D: "could you perhaps refrain form electing a theocratic tyrant"
Doing the best we can, I'm certainly not voting for him. I myself haven't found a way to talk sense into xian fundamentalists (who I'm pretty sure are the ones who would vote for him) but if you have any suggestions I'm all ears.
Posted by: jba | December 12, 2007 3:46 PM
What about this piece of flat-out insane pandering from that loon?
Huckabee: "I think we ought to be out there talking about ways to reduce energy consumption and waste. And we ought to declare that we will be free of energy consumption in this country within a decade, bold as that is."
Source?
Posted by: truth machine | December 12, 2007 3:46 PM
Yeah, that'd be scary if the poll (singular) wasn't from a laughably inept and inaccurate company with a long and ignoble history of getting it all wrong.
Posted by: stogoe | December 12, 2007 4:06 PM
The original source for the Energy-Free Huckabee quote is the Sierra Club link tinyurled below.
http://tinyurl.com/33es3q
Posted by: Bureaucratus Minimis | December 12, 2007 4:07 PM
Kind of off topic, but can today (12-12) be considered "gross" day?
Posted by: Mark | December 12, 2007 4:08 PM
FrumiousBandersnark wrote:
You'll need some positions for David Barton the guy who flagrantly used fake "quotes" from our founding fathers in his attempt to rewrite history and for Tim LaHaye, writer of the Left Behind series.
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2007/12/huckabee-and-christianists.html
Posted by: Norman Doering | December 12, 2007 4:10 PM
Ya know what kills about the Repubs? If a Democratic political figure came out and said, "Heeeeey, let's all drive Prius's and from now on everybody will eat a vegan diet," with the exception of about 6 acupuncturists living on a communal farm in New Hampshire, we'd mostly all chuckle and wave them away. A Repub candidate says something equally out there, but in the opposite direction (ie, Eeeevolution is for monkeys, put AIDS patients in camps, or scary Mexicans are gonna blow us all up!!!), and they run him for Preznit? Cheers, guys, but, wow.
Posted by: tikistitch | December 12, 2007 4:18 PM
Answer... the alarm clock?
My senile grandmother used to do that.
Posted by: Cairnarvon | December 12, 2007 4:22 PM
I'm so on edge about these assholes I'm about to walk outside my office an punch the nearest priest.
Save the entrails!
Posted by: HP | December 12, 2007 4:48 PM
Funny, I just wrote about Huckabee and his religious beliefs yesterday:
http://tinyfrog.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/huckabee-and-the-2008-election/
Posted by: tinyfrog | December 12, 2007 4:49 PM
Karey, from all the way back at #8
Sometimes, you find out that the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
Posted by: G | December 12, 2007 4:56 PM
That's it. If Huckabee wins, I'm taking up fiddle lessons*, filling my yard with hungry lions and changing my name to Nero.
And, I swear, the first doughy-headed Christian who waddles by carping on about being persecuted will quickly be reminded that they fucking deserve the persecution for fucking up a really nice country in which to live.
*I know. The fiddle is historically inaccurate since Nero most likely played the lyre. However, I think I prefer the fiddle because there could be certain perks to carrying a violin case in a Christian Nation&trade
Posted by: Dan | December 12, 2007 5:07 PM
Now that Chucklebee has thrown down the gauntlet by firing a salvo at Romney's Mormonism, let's have a good old-fashioned debate about the idiosyncracies of his particular superstitions too.
Posted by: melior | December 12, 2007 5:15 PM
Shirley Knott, et.al.
I think I know what Huckabee's getting onto when he talks about energy independence.
I think his big plan is to wrap lots of copper wire around Thomas Jefferson's coffin, stick it between two magnets, and just keep talking...
Posted by: G | December 12, 2007 5:21 PM
HP,
It's the 'last' priest. You have to be more patient. Now how one can be sure that it is indeed the last priest, I couldn't say.
I also have to wonder what happens if the last king is long gone when the moment finally comes. Perhaps I'm just too literal minded to understand philosophy.
Diderot was probably just letting out his frustration, at the time.
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck, FCD | December 12, 2007 5:24 PM
@54, cute, but he's NOT talking about 'energy independance'.
He's talking about ending energy consumption. And he means it, insofar as any baptist minister is capable of sincerity rather than mere sin.
To the best of my knowlege, that would amount to death, in every sense of the term.
Not that universal death is out of range for Rethuglican wackiness, but...
no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott
Posted by: Shirley Knott | December 12, 2007 5:27 PM
Here in the UK we now have what is in effect gay marriage, although in order to stop the religious going totally ape it the correct term is "civil partnership". People just call it gay marriage anyway.
We also allow gays to serve openly in the military, and the military have even taken to sending recruiters to gay rallies and advertising in media aimed at gays.
I cannot say I have noticed that society has is any less cohesive following all this. In fact the number of heterosexual marriages seems to be on the rise.
All of this leads me to conclude Huckerbee is a dickhead.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | December 12, 2007 5:28 PM
Huckabee sounds great; with statements not too dissimilar to those of Abraham Lincoln.
http://members.tripod.com/~greatamericanhistory/gr02004.htm
Posted by: Ross Nixon | December 12, 2007 5:31 PM
melior wrote:
Unfortunately, Mitt won't play that game because he'll know he'll get clobbered. What can he do? Ask Fhuckabee if he handles snakes and drinks poison like the New Testament says? Get Pluckabee to admit he believes in demons?
I wish. It would demonstrate that freedom of religion is really the freedom to be batshit crazy.
Posted by: Norman Doering | December 12, 2007 5:31 PM
Clearly, the Lowest Common Denominator has not been reached yet with Bush. With Hucksterbee, we're going not only going to be staring at a gaping abyss, but we'll be neck deep within it. The loads of pure and utter horseshit that this asshead produces is beyond comparison. How much more of a theocracy do we need?
With this asshole in charge, we're not going to be much different then Saudi Arabia, or Iran. All of these fuckers carry their illogical, and stupid religious beliefs like a badge. One day, it will be a badge of shame, not acceptance.
Let's be reminded that had Al Gore chosen a better VP candidate then Lieberman, we wouldn't be in this rotten mess. He had to go ahead and choose a neo-conservative idiot who was going to take Saturdays off from policy work. Neither party is the party of rationality either. This rant can't end without some optimism so here goes. May all the candidates in both parties mysteriously suffer a neuro-degenerative brain disorder (worse then the one they already have)and drop off the face of politics. Neither of these badge wearing religious idiots deserves to be President. In place, perhaps a well known Squidophile may be selected on an interim basis. If he chooses to neglect that duty, I'm sure there's a certain also well known astrophile waiting to glamorize the spotlight.
Posted by: Helioprogenus | December 12, 2007 6:01 PM
Actually, the worst president in American History is the piece of filth, James Earl Carter, although Dubya is giving him a run for his money.
Posted by: SLC | December 12, 2007 6:05 PM
Hmmm ... I'd go for: Bush#1 > Nixon > Ford >> Reagan >>> Bush #2
At least we agree on the ends.
Posted by: CJ | December 12, 2007 6:12 PM
In a way, I was hoping that the GOP would nominate Huckabee, because that might increase Democrat participation in other races, and produce a larger majority in the Senate, and so on...
But thinking about it more, I recalled the Swift Boat incident, in which Republicans lied about the Democrat's candidate, and turned the 2004 race around.
I can see that happening again.
It would not be a good thing if the GOP nominates the biggest clown in the clownmobile, because that clown could be our next commander-in-chief. In that light, I guess I gotta hope the Republicans nominate, blech, someone else, because I just don't want any of 'em.
But Huckabee, least of all. Of the remaining GOP candidates, I think he's the worst.
Posted by: MikeM | December 12, 2007 6:23 PM
My ancestors washed up on the shores of the future Massachusetts almost 400 years ago. In January 2004, my family picked up stakes and moved to Canada. Personally, I think we deserve some credit for sticking it out so long. In any case, we're now permanent residents. Next year we can apply for citizenship. Canada isn;t utopia but I can't tell you how great it feels to be in the Great White North. I've had Americans ask if it won't bother me to swear fealty to the Queen of England. I have to laugh -- that coming from citizens of a country run by GW Bush, Dick Cheney, and other assorted thugs, thieves, and scoundrels.
Posted by: CanadaGoose | December 12, 2007 6:26 PM
Way back at #18 Richard stated "Wellllll, people get the government that they deserve, or so it's said."
Made me immediately think of an Onion "American Voices" comment:
"I guess they say you get the government you deserve, but I don't remember knife-raping any retarded nuns."
Posted by: Dahan | December 12, 2007 6:36 PM
CanadaGoose. I can trace my lineage back to the Mayflower and the native Americans and I'm thinkin' of heading up there too if Huckabee wins. Got room for some more?
Posted by: Dahan | December 12, 2007 6:40 PM
ROTFL!
My night is saved. :-)
------------
Well, Lincoln's faith was a little more complex than Huckabee's or for that matter yours.
-- cited in chapter 14 of part 5 of Six Historic Americans by John Ramsburg
-- cited in What Great Men Think Of Religion by Ira Cardiff
-- in a letter to Judge J.S. Wakefield, after the death of Willie Lincoln
-- Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, in Toward The Mystery
-- this last one quoted in Henry O. Dormann, compiler, The Speaker's Book of Quotations, New York: Ballantine Books, 1987, p. 127
...and finally:
Do you think PZ made all these quotes up?
Looks like Lincoln was, at least privately, a deist (which makes it very easy for your source to paint him as a deeply religious man -- he probably was one).
---------------
We also wouldn't be in there if the ballots in Florida had been counted in a legal way...
Posted by: David Marjanović, OM | December 12, 2007 6:52 PM
Huckabillee for President!
I thought it was spelled Hickabillee
Posted by: Paul T. | December 12, 2007 7:03 PM
Hmmm. So Ross Nixon's comment, linking to a piece that tried to make a Huckabee out of Lincoln, was deleted. (It was number 58.) Still, our favorite troll isn't in the Dungeon, nor even On Notice. ~:-|
Posted by: David Marjanović, OM | December 12, 2007 7:05 PM
Just curious, which polls are showing Clinton losing to all 5 of the major GOP candidates, the polls I've seen show her beating them by a minimum of 3%, so including a margin of error, at worst, dead even.
Posted by: dogmeatib | December 12, 2007 7:06 PM
Ross Nixon never fails to disappoint! I mean, he never fails to entertain!
(Uh but since when is Jimmy Carter the worst U.S. President in history?)
Posted by: Kseniya | December 12, 2007 7:11 PM
Actually, the worst president in American History is the piece of filth, James Earl Carter, although Dubya is giving him a run for his money.
To second Kseniya's comment, since when, and by what measure, is Carter the worst president in American History?
Posted by: dogmeatib | December 12, 2007 7:18 PM
"So this guy basically said "F*ck the separation of church and state. If I get into the white house, I'm gonna teach all you godless secularists how to love jebus properly."
And the geldings and capons in Congress still won't have what it takes to impeach an obvious criminal. Just don't let 'em lie about getting a blowjob!
And for the record, I think Carter was the best president of the 20th century, if not the history of the republic. He was a religious nut, but did not impose his views on anyone else. He was a well educated, honorable man. The inflation of his tenure in office was the artifact of Nixon's shady dealings in 1972.
The country doesn't want an honorable man, they want to be told what they want to hear, praise Jebus!
Posted by: BaldApe | December 12, 2007 7:20 PM
Don't blame you. The rapture might come early and be televised.
You should be worried. The day Huckabee becomes president a lot of states will declare themselves nuclear free countries. And then start very quietly building nukes like mad just in case.
Might be worth stockpiling wine and popcorn. If the Christofascists destroy the country or the world, what else can we do?
Posted by: raven | December 12, 2007 7:21 PM
In reply to #4, who asked if Huckabee could teach us anything about science.
I've discovered he is no expert in that area. He has been fooled by the AGW hoax.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59176
Maybe Ron Paul would be a better choice? He certainly sounds like a climate realist to me.
Posted by: Ross Nixon | December 12, 2007 7:24 PM
Huckabee is batshit insane. Does he wake up in the morning to the sound of the alarm clock, pick it up and ask, "Jesus, is that you?" before trying to use the station dial to phone his relatives? I'm guessing he does.
Posted by: Dustin | December 12, 2007 7:43 PM
Posted by: zer0 | December 12, 2007 7:46 PM
My work here is done.
Posted by: G | December 12, 2007 7:58 PM
Oh, this is rich. Thanks, Ross!
WingNutDaily reports:
Go, Mittwit! Cuz like yeah, it's so unfair how the USA has been the sole vanguard of AGW awareness, policy formulation and implementation!
Kyoto, Mitt. Kyoto.
Kyoto.
Posted by: Kseniya, OM | December 12, 2007 8:11 PM
The cartoon linked to in #30 is essentially correct in the beliefs of the Mormons, according to the things I've heard living in Utah for 25 years. I married a Mormon, but we have not been pressured to divorce, however.
Posted by: Gary J. Bivin | December 12, 2007 8:17 PM
The sectarian conflicts are starting already.
Historically Xians have persecuted and massacred Mormons, regarding them as a heretical cult. The Mormons have evened the score by persecuting Xians and massacring them back. Business as usual.
Theocracies usually fail due to corruption and sectarian infighting. Those in power loot the treasury and persecute heretics, nobelievers, and anyone else they can think of. Then they start fighting among themselves.
This is just so Dark Ages. Whatever, the American Taliban will end up like the Afghani one. Sitting on a pile of rubble while everyone sincerely, devoutly wishes they were long gone to the afterlife.
And BTW, Huckabee might be right.
Posted by: raven | December 12, 2007 8:21 PM
If this guy is to be believed, Huckabee could win.
You only need to watch a few minutes of this to get the idea, but it's worth watching at least half of it.
Posted by: RamblinDude | December 12, 2007 8:30 PM
Dear fellow readers,
Might I gently suggest a deep breath for all of you? A presidential election is not the most important event in my life next year, and I hope not in yours, either.
The strident personal attacks, president-rating, religion-baiting comments cannot possibly be helpful to anyone. And repeating proven false talking points about the 2000 Florida presidential vote just make us sound uninformed.
Stay classy, men and women of science!
No matter the winner we will prosper and thrive. And STFU about moving to another country. It is undignified and beneath you.
Posted by: dr kill | December 12, 2007 8:31 PM
So here's what I want to know.
Totally apart from the terrifying theocracy crap, which everyone else has been covering so effectively:
Why the f*** do people continue to run for government office who don't believe in government?
And why the triple-f*** do people keep voting for them?
When government is run by people who don't believe in the basic idea of government, it gets run completely ineptly and completely corruptly. (As opposed to when it's run by people who think government might actually be a good idea if it's done right. Then it gets run somewhat less ineptly and corruptly.)
Posted by: Greta Christina | December 12, 2007 8:40 PM
I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives...I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ.
The only "real answer" we need is how to stop this country from breeding fundie idiots like you, Mike.
He's like Bush with a few more brain cells. Very, very scary.
Posted by: CalGeorge | December 12, 2007 8:42 PM
Uh but since when is Jimmy Carter the worst U.S. President in history?
He never met a dictator (including Ceaucescu, Kim Il Sung, Chavez, Castro, Noriega) whom he didn't like.
Posted by: Some Guy | December 12, 2007 8:43 PM
That's unfortunate.
Posted by: Kseniya | December 12, 2007 9:09 PM
Dr. kill, you say: "STFU about moving to another country. It is undignified and beneath you."
Why would I not show interest in moving to someplace where the populace, polititians and government better reflect my values? Who are you to tell me it's undignified to