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Ken Ham's new book

Category: Creationism
Posted on: February 21, 2008 3:16 PM, by PZ Myers

Just when you think these guys can't get any more dishonest, here comes Darwin's Plantation: Evolution's Racist Roots. The tag line on the book is a quote from Ham: "Although racism did not begin with Darwinism, Darwin did more than any person to popularize it."

Wow. More than Martin Luther, who helped make anti-semitism a favorite German pastime? More than Nathan Bedford Forrest, who helped the Ku Klux Klan grow to half a million members? More than Hitler? More than our Supreme Court in the Dred Scott decision? More than Richard Butler, founder of the Aryan Nations? More than Lester Maddox and Strom Thurmond? More than King Leopold II of Belgium?

This Charles Darwin?

Remind me, once Ken Ham dies, that I have to start a campaign to remember him as the person most responsible for popularizing piglet-raping. Truth doesn't matter with Ham, so we can freely invent any crime we want and blame him for increasing its popularity. Anything goes, too — he's certainly willing to stoop to any vileness to defame those he dislikes, so he can't complain when he gets santorumed.

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#1

I would be on the front lines opposing you if you were to ever do something like that to the memory of such a great man.

-Christian Warrior

Posted by: Anonymous | February 21, 2008 3:30 PM

#2

What, you mean a creationist is lying using long-discredited ideas

Say it isn't so

Posted by: Chris | February 21, 2008 3:35 PM

#3

Santorumed or should it be Santorummed? Kinda messy both ways.

Maybe we need a definition to be matched up with that newest of words 'kenham'.

Also, why wait until he dies?

@ #1 Hmm, it's so hard to spot satire vs. fundy foolishness.

Posted by: JohnnieCanuck, FCD | February 21, 2008 3:36 PM

#4

So, creationist fundies are pig rapers now eh? Sheesh, I knew they hated science, but going so far as to rape pigs. Now they have gone to far! Stop piglet raping now!

Posted by: firemancarl | February 21, 2008 3:37 PM

#5

This puts the Expelled cretins squarely in bed with Ken Ham. I hope the DI enjoys the fact that there's not a whit of difference between the sleazy tactics of the "unscientific creationists" and the Godwin's violations and assorted lies and accusations of the "scientific IDists."

And they've both largely given up on trying to convince the world that there is evidence, other than by claiming that there are dumptruck loads, except that "thought police" like PZ and Dawkins are preventing it from getting out. Not that either one of these super-demons can do a thing about a pack of lies going to be shown in theaters, but they sure are good at preventing the IDists from revealing their knowledge when they are badgered constantly for it.

You have weird superpowers, PZ. Apparently you're perfectly capable of preventing stuff like evidence from getting out, but the kryptonite surrounding screeching propaganda is something against which you are powerless. I don't know if I can be your minion any more, now that I know of your limitations.

Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7

Posted by: Glen Davidson | February 21, 2008 3:38 PM

#6

He's not called 'The Hammer' for nothing.

Posted by: stoat100 | February 21, 2008 3:39 PM

#7

Perhaps he should be called the Hamster instead of the Hammer.
But then that would be doing a terrible disservice to all small
furry, four-legged creatures.

Posted by: Adrian Burd | February 21, 2008 3:42 PM

#8

Can Matthew Chapman sue Ham for libeling his great-great-grandfather?

Posted by: James F | February 21, 2008 3:43 PM

#9

Perhaps he should be called the Hamster instead of the Hammer.
But then that would be doing a terrible disservice to all small
furry, four-legged creatures.

What, and you think one of the most fundamental of construction tools deserves such defamation by association?

Posted by: DrFrank | February 21, 2008 3:44 PM

#10

Steven?

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | February 21, 2008 3:45 PM

#11

I suspect the constant complaint that "Darwinism leads to racism" doesn't really point to any deep and continuing concerns over racism. No, it only shows that creationists really do think that secular liberals are "in control" of the government and public schools, and this is an issue they think will appeal to the liberal mindset and mentality. "We'll beat them using their own rules, heheheh."

I'm surprised they aren't arguing that evolution "goes against" homosexuality, which according to the theory must be unnatural and wrong because it leaves no offspring.

Next up, Ken Ham on "Homo-phobia has its roots in Darwinian thinking." No on Evolution; Yes on Gay Marriage.

Oh, that would be fun...

Posted by: Sastra | February 21, 2008 3:47 PM

#12

...More than the blble?

Posted by: RamblinDude | February 21, 2008 3:50 PM

#13

What do you mean, invent crimes? I've known that Ken Ham was a pig rapist since I first day I heard of him. His last name says it all.

Let's make sure that history remembers Ken Ham as the vile sex offender he is!

Posted by: Kevin L. | February 21, 2008 3:51 PM

#14

Crap. More than the Bible.

Posted by: RamblinDude | February 21, 2008 3:52 PM

#15

Creoporcinerapists

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | February 21, 2008 3:55 PM

#16

We'll just call all his creationist followers Children of Ham and be done with it...

Posted by: Geoffrey Alexander | February 21, 2008 3:58 PM

#17

Ham is just following Goebbel's strategy, lie big and lie often. Guy is a disgrace.
Ken Ham and his looney followers (all 3 of them), Falwell, Kennedy, Robertson, Dobson, have and will make far more secularists, atheists, and antiXians than Dawkins X 100.

When you present Xianity as the domain of stupid, uneducated, murderous, liars, who would want to be one?

There is definitely a backlash against these clowns. Dobsons organization is rumored to be losing members and money. Coral Ridge is in trouble. Huckabee the Dark Ages candidate only got 10-20% of the total dem + theocrat votes. Polls show it too. As you sow, so shall you reap. Idiots should read their own holy book sometime.

Posted by: raven | February 21, 2008 4:00 PM

#18

It's true about Ken Ham raping piglets.I got intel off a piglet (It squealed).

Posted by: stoat100 | February 21, 2008 4:00 PM

#19

Showered with butt-dumplings. That really is the most fitting possible fate for a lying miscreant like Ham.

Posted by: Milo Johnson | February 21, 2008 4:05 PM

#20

"Also, why wait until he dies?"

Simple -- it puts you in the clear, legally. You cannot be successfully sued for libeling the dead.

Posted by: David | February 21, 2008 4:06 PM

#21
As you sow, so shall you reap

With all this talk of piglet-violating, I read this "As for a sow, so too shall it be raped."

Posted by: AL | February 21, 2008 4:08 PM

#22

(Snort) Nice pun on Ham's name PZ.

The beauty of accusing them of piglet rape is you can accuse anyone who defends Ham of being a closet piglet rapper.

Posted by: Bob L | February 21, 2008 4:11 PM

#23

@#13 Kevin L:

I've known that Ken Ham was a pig rapist since I first day I heard of him. His last name says it all.

And isn't his middle name "Roger?"

Posted by: madder | February 21, 2008 4:15 PM

#24

While we're on the puns, what good is pork if you can't pork it?

Posted by: AL | February 21, 2008 4:17 PM

#25

What Sastra said, but I also think the Creos are implicitly accusing rationalists of racism since Darwin was a racist (by contemporary standards), using the guilt by association principle.

Posted by: Bureaucratus Minimis | February 21, 2008 4:19 PM

#26

Whenever Jesus got a taste of Ham, he'd spit it out and say, "phooey!" His present day disciples ought to do likewise.

Posted by: Rick | February 21, 2008 4:19 PM

#27

You know -- information on the Internet has a nasty habit of being like pee in a pool -- once it disseminates, it's hard to tell where it started.

I bet if everyone started the "I heard Ken Ham .... " thing and just started spreading lies (or better yet -- inconvenient truths) about him... thing is, they gotta be believable. As funny as piglet-raping is, that just seems hyperbolic.

What about Ken Ham's brief stint of homosexuality when he was a child? Anyone know anything about that? Perhaps the story about how he was a biology student at an Australian university and was so frustrated with getting poor grades in his Organic Chemistry class that he dropped out and turned against science.

Heck, do it against AiG themselves. They've been talking false trash about us for so long, and we're just playing the defense, trying to detangle the knots of yarn they spew at us -- surely someone can start some grassroots anti-AiG propaganda. Playing fair doesn't always work with a bully.

Posted by: Aaron | February 21, 2008 4:21 PM

#28

The followers of the Great Zombie are the biggest enablers of the Followers of Mammon that I've ever seen. They should just title this stuff, _Why the People You Already Disagree with for Bad Reasons are Evil_. You know this can't be about winning an intellectual war: one cannot choose how the universe operates, and the models we construct to explain its operation are selected based upon efficacy, not some cult of personality. This effort is in the same ballpark of dumb as the Deutsche Physik movement.

Posted by: mwb | February 21, 2008 4:23 PM

#29

Sorta, but only sorta, OT (for one thing, it links with my comments above). Here's good idiot Stein, asking his usual dull, oft-answered (but he has a tin ear), questions, telling the exact same lies that have proven so lame in the past. And, oh yes, it's from the same tabloid that ran Bethell's pig-ignorant piece, The American Spectator:

Just a few tiny, insignificant little questions.

* How did the universe start?

* Where did matter come from?

* Where did energy come from?

* Where did the laws of motion, thermodynamics, physics, chemistry, come from?

* Where did gravity come from?

* How did inorganic matter, that is, lifeless matter such as dirt and rocks, become living beings?

* Has anyone ever observed beyond doubt the evolution of a new mammalian or aviary species, as opposed to changes within a species?

These teeny weeny little questions are just some of the issues as to which Darwin and Darwinism have absolutely no verifiable answers. Hypotheses.

Yes. Guesses. Yes. Proof? None.

To my little pea brain, these are some pretty big issues about evolution, the origins of life, and genetics that Darwinism cannot answer. Now, to be fair, does anyone else have verifiable answers either? Not as far as I know.

But if there are no answers that can be reproduced in the laboratory, isn't any theory about them a hypothesis or a guess? Isn't any hypothesis worth thinking about? And aren't these immense questions?

Yet the state of Florida, the glorious Sunshine State, was (I am told), until recently, considering legislation that would make it illegal to allow teachers or students in public schools to discuss any hypothesis about origins of life or the universe except that it all happened by accident without any prime mover or first cause or designer -- allowing only, again, the hypothesis, which is considered Darwinian, that it all started by, well, by, something that Darwin never even mentioned.

That is, the state of Florida was considering mandating that only Darwinian-type suppositions can be allowed about scientific subjects that Darwin never studied. (This is not to mention that we know now that Darwin was wildly wrong about some subjects such as genetics, and, again, although he wrote about the evolution of species, never observed an entirely new species evolve.)

This was beyond Stalinism. Stalinism decreed that only Marx-Engels-Lenin-Stalin knew all the answers, but it did not say that subjects they never mentioned could only be studied if the student guessed at what they might have said. The proposed law in the state of Florida was an anti-knowledge, anti-freedom of inquiry law on a scale such as has rarely been encountered. Maybe in Pol Pot's Kampuchea there were such laws, but they have been unknown in the USA until now.

By an incredible miracle of good sense, at the last minute, the state of Florida changed the proposed regulations. They backed off powerfully saying that only Darwinism could possibly make sense and said they would allow discussion of differing theories about the origins of life. That's the current proposal as I write this on the afternoon of the 19th of February.

I suspect the now omitted proposals would have been unconstitutional in any event (although this always depends on the court you ask). Freedom of inquiry is part of freedom of speech. That is basic. That is what America is all about. Whatever the proposed -- now discarded -- regulations were, they have nothing to do with freedom, very little to do with science, and not even much to do with Darwin, who had a lot more respect for freedom of thought than his henchmen in Florida apparently do.

www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12767

Of course he's still too dull, or prejudiced, to learn that "Darwinism" has absolutely no hypotheses or guesses regarding how the universe started, or where matter came from. He really treats evolutionary theory as if it were the pig-stupid nonsense that religion puts out, myths that are supposed to explain absolutely everything.

But at least he left out some of the whopping lies that he's told in the past (this seems to be attributed to him, but the punctuation is weird, perhaps indicating a paraphrase):

"The debate over evolution is confusing and to some, bewildering." Darwinism does not take into account DNA, microbiology, The Big Bang, Einstein's Theory of Relativity or the human genome.

www.pacificsun.com/square/index.php?i=3&t=636

If he did indeed say that, or something close to that, he really strikes me as even less informed than Ken Ham. Nevertheless, he matters more than does Ham, even though he sounds like he dropped out of middle school as far as his "science knowledge" is concerned.

Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7

Posted by: Glen Davidson | February 21, 2008 4:25 PM

#30
Simple -- it puts you in the clear, legally. You cannot be successfully sued for libeling the dead.
You can't be successfully sued for statements that any reasonable person would see as satirical either so we're perfectly free to call him a swine rapist now.

The piglets are small potatoes anyway. I have it on good authority that Ham kidnaps hobos and forces them to fight to the death in underground gambling dens.

Posted by: SeanH | February 21, 2008 4:25 PM

#31

Doesn't Ham know that people are tired of mudslinging and negative campaigning? Racist or not, I just hope Darwin can balance the damn budget.

Wait, what am I talking about?

Posted by: Rey Fox | February 21, 2008 4:36 PM

#32

the slur about darwin being racist is historically false, and should be repudiated as any historical falsehood.

at the same time, i also think it's worth making (reiterating) the point that even if darwin *had* been a racist, and a piglet-rapist to boot, this would not make a damn bit of difference to the scientific merit of his work.

this is something the creationist morons simply don't get, probably because they have never understood science at all.

science is not a form of religion.
neither is it a form of hero-worship.

the quality of a piece of scientific work does not depend on the moral qualities of the scientist.

if scientist x puts forward theory t, we do not take it on faith.
we do not swear fealty to it because x was a great guy.

instead, we investigate it, see what predictions it generates, what explaining it can do, how it helps us to understand things or not, and only on the basis of its success in those regards do we accept it or not.

what irritates me about the attacks on darwin is that our responses, just as much as the attacks, play into the anti-scientific view that what matters is building darwin up as a hero or tearing him down as a villain.

sorry, kids--that's not the way science works. people like ken ham only prove that they don't have the first idea what science is actually like.

maybe he could learn some if he'd stop soliciting those hormel whores of his.

Posted by: kid bitzer | February 21, 2008 4:45 PM

#33

Sean H:

I heard he makes the hobos fight the piglets.

Posted by: chancelikely | February 21, 2008 4:46 PM

#34

I have proof that Ken Ham is a lying pig rapist. Here's the reference:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/02/ken_hams_new_book.php

Posted by: WRMartin | February 21, 2008 4:49 PM

#35

As alluded to in Comment #16 -

I've been waiting for him (Ken Ham) to publish a book like this. It is almost too ironic with his last name...

For those of you who don't know, "The curse of Ham" (handed down by Moses shortly after the flood) was the KKK's reasoning for their racism against African Americans. (Their reasoning for extrapolating this curse - as should need to go unstated - was complete bullocks.)

How crazy is it that a man with the "cursed" people's last name is saying that racism comes from Darwinism...

Posted by: The Kardinal | February 21, 2008 4:52 PM

#36

"I heard he makes the hobos fight the piglets."

So not only is Ken a piglet rapist, but he's also hobophobic?

tsk tsk...

Posted by: Jason B | February 21, 2008 4:53 PM

#37

Geoffrey Alexander (#16):

We'll just call all his creationist followers Children of Ham and be done with it...

Ah, I see I was beaten to the Noah reference. Good job.

Posted by: Blake Stacey | February 21, 2008 4:59 PM

#38

What the hell is a "Christian Warrior?!?"

Really... You'd think an all-powerful god wouldn't need an army of indoctrinated goons to fight his battles for him.

Posted by: Dan | February 21, 2008 5:00 PM

#39

It's true about Ken Ham raping piglets

Of course it is! He's a biblical literalist, called ken ham, & to ken is to know, & in the bible, to know is to have sex with, so his name means 'having sex with pork'. QED

But seriously, his stupid creationist activities aren't any better than bestiality. Maybe worse; certainly so in terms of the damage to the sum total of human understanding.

Posted by: Richard Harris | February 21, 2008 5:04 PM

#40

Why wait until he's dead? It's not like we're under any obligation to protect the reputation of a damn piglet rapist.

Posted by: JT | February 21, 2008 5:09 PM

#41

In the spirit of a likely hero of Ham's, I'd like to present him with a query:

To the inspiration by which of your Holy Trinity do you owe your mendaciousness, dear Sir, the Father, Son or the Holy Ghost?

Posted by: Brownian, OM | February 21, 2008 5:15 PM

#42

Is Ken Ham a piglet rapist? Could it be that he's the person most responsible for promoting piglet raping? See more here.

Posted by: Robert Thille | February 21, 2008 5:15 PM

#43

Oh, d-d-d-dear!

Posted by: milne | February 21, 2008 5:16 PM

#44

There's a band called 'ken ham raped my piglet'. Well, there will be soon. In fact, 17,000 of them. The joy of being a web developer! Google that, retards.

Posted by: stoat100 | February 21, 2008 5:18 PM

#45

Has anyone thought to ask him what the point of the book is, if any? Evolution could have been discovered by a collaboration between Hitler, Djenghis Khan, Stalin, Pol Pot and Barbra Streisand and it wouldn't matter the slightest. (ok, but for a few chronological problems)

Posted by: Frederik Rosenkjær | February 21, 2008 5:19 PM

#46

Richard Harris, that's a superb etymology. I salute you.

Posted by: chancelikely | February 21, 2008 5:20 PM

#47

Why bother to make up stories about Ken Ham, when it's a matter of public record that Ken Ham's father was a convicted pedophile?

And this was in Australia, which as we all know, is notoriously lax in terms of prosecuting pedophiles.

Posted by: dontsueme | February 21, 2008 5:21 PM

#48

kid bitzer #32 wrote:

at the same time, i also think it's worth making (reiterating) the point that even if darwin *had* been a racist, and a piglet-rapist to boot, this would not make a damn bit of difference to the scientific merit of his work.

Exactly. I once responded to a creationist who brought up the old "Darwin renounced evolution on his death bed" canard with a breezy "Not really, but so what if he did? Evolution today isn't based on anything he did anymore; its gone beyond that. He was wrong in a lot of ways, and the science has improved. Biologists only read Origin of Species in a history of science class, if at all. So scientists -- and atheists -- don't CARE what Darwin himself believed or didn't believe. So what? He's just a guy. It doesn't matter to the THEORY, which has data, evidence, and works."

Her response was funny -- a lot of stuttering and "you do TOO care about Darwin." She was quite indignant. I happened to be manning an atheist booth at the time, and it was as if she heard a Christian say they didn't care WHAT Jesus said or meant. And that, of course, is exactly how they frame it.

I must have been getting my science -- and atheism -- all wrong.

Posted by: Sastra | February 21, 2008 5:24 PM

#49

I think the subtitle of the book implies something even more odious than that evolution is responsible for racism. "Evolution's Racist Roots" implies that racisms is responsible for evolution. That's thugbuttery on a whole new plane fuckwittedness.

Posted by: Greg Peterson | February 21, 2008 5:26 PM

#50

It's too bad it's not illegal to libel someone who's dead. I'd sue his piglet-raping pants off.

Posted by: Holydust | February 21, 2008 5:27 PM

#51

Since they can't win with data, it looks like they're turning to a "poisoning the well" strategy. Just like all big lies, it does not matter whether what they are saying is true--just as long as enough people begin to swallow it.

Can't Ham be exported back to Australia? How did he ever get citizenship in the US? Was he being "persecuted" there?

Posted by: jeh | February 21, 2008 5:28 PM

#52

Re #51:

Can't Ham be exported back to Australia? How did he ever get citizenship in the US? Was he being "persecuted" there?

Persecuted for piglet raping, perhaps?

Posted by: J | February 21, 2008 5:34 PM

#53

Anyone live near Corvallis, in the Portland Oregon region? They're going to show Expelled, apparently in Corvallis, free if you pre-register (might not be best to let on why you want to see it):

Restore America event seeks to spread influence By Carol Reeves Gazette-Times reporter The role of government, homosexuality, the culture wars and who's controlling public education are just a few of the topics that will be addressed at the third annual Restore America conference Friday and Saturday, Feb. 23 at the Rolling Hills Community Church, 3550 S.W. Borland Road in Tualatin.

The theme of the event, "The Seven Spheres of Influence," is expected to draw up to 2,000 participants anxious to answer such "politically incorrect" questions as: Should faith influence the workplace? Is homosexuality wrong? and Are we at war with Islam?

Conference organizers claim history has shown it only takes a small minority in leadership in the areas of government, family, religion, education, business, entertainment and the media to control the direction of a nation. Participants will be challenged to assume their responsibility as individual Christians to make a difference in each one.

David Crowe and Marshall Foster will speak during the 6:30 to 9 p.m. opening session on Friday. Crowe is the founder and executive director of Restore America, an advocacy organization intent on restoring the United States to a nation "under God." Foster is the founder of the Mayflower Institute, an education foundation also dedicated to teaching the history of what it calls America's godly heritage.

Friday night concludes with a premier screening and interview with the producers of Ben Stein's movie "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" from 9 to 11 p.m. The film offers a look at the debate over intelligent design and campaign to keep the theory out of public schools.

Saturday morning will feature Terri Schiavo's attorney David Gibbs III, filmwriters and producers Jonathan and Deborah Flora and David Kupelian, the managing editor of WorldNetDaily.com and author of "The Marketing of Evil." In the afternoon, featured speakers include Charlene Cothran, a former lesbian activist and publisher of Venus magazine; Kamal Saleem, a former Muslim terrorist; and Star Parker, a social policy consultant and founder and president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education.

General admission for both days of the conference costs $89. Discounted tickets of $69 are available to pastors, persons in the military and seniors age 60 or older. Teens and college students with ID can attend for $29.

Those interested in attending Friday night only will be charged $39; Saturday only costs $59. Registration and check-in will begin at 5 p.m. Friday.

Admission to the premier of "The Expelled" is free, but preregistration is required.

For more information, call 503-639-7298 or go online to www.restoreamerica.org.

www.gazettetimes.com/articles/2008/02/16/news/religion/7rel02_restore0216.txt

Could be interesting.

Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7

Posted by: Glen Davidson | February 21, 2008 5:44 PM

#54

No raping of pigs! GODDAMNIT Ken, stop! I beg of you...for the love of Hovind.

Posted by: danley | February 21, 2008 5:47 PM

#55
Conference organizers claim history has shown it only takes a small minority in leadership in the areas of government, family, religion, education, business, entertainment and the media to control the direction of a nation.

History has also shown that one far-right think tank with a $5,000,000 annual budget can keep a bullshit pseudoscience idea alive for years.

Posted by: J | February 21, 2008 5:56 PM

#56


I once met a piglet who claimed to have been raped over a dozen times by Ken Ham in the woods near the eventual site of the Creation Museum. Completely credible, and also very tasty after a slow roasting with barbeque sauce.

Posted by: Great White Wonder | February 21, 2008 5:57 PM

#57

There really is a band called 'Pig Destroyer'. No smoke without fire, I say.

Posted by: stoat100 | February 21, 2008 5:57 PM

#58

Although to verse I'm not averse
(Oh, no, perverse is what I am)
With phrases terse, I could do worse
Than share the curse of tainted Ham.

In rhyme or prose, well, goodness knows,
I could compose this tale of mine;
And thus expose the growing nose
And lying pose of Kenneth Swine.

We're all aware he does not care
If truth is rare in what he's writ;
He says a prayer for public glare--
He's happy there, as pigs in shit.

Although he'll write that Black and White,
If Darwin's right, are different species
He takes delight, producing quite
(To be polite) a load of feces.

He knows he's wrong, but bobs along
Among the throngs of simple minds
There must be strong stuff in his bong
That makes him long for deep-fried rinds

It's no surprise his book of lies
Sees truth's demise in every word
If facts arise, they're in disguise--
Complete with flies, this one's a turd.

Posted by: Cuttlefish, OM | February 21, 2008 5:58 PM

#59

I have an idea for a future money making venture and I'm looking for investors to help me get started. My idea is to create an atheist pilgrimage travel package, we'll travel round the world and piss on the graves of demented fucktards like Ken Ham. Now I know I'll have to wait a while for him to die, but really how much longer can he hold on? Someone that stupid is bound to walk under a bus one day. A lot of the big name creobots aren't that young, added tour stops would make the trip better all round.

Posted by: Venger | February 21, 2008 6:05 PM

#60

My idea is to create an atheist pilgrimage travel package, we'll travel round the world and piss on the graves of demented fucktards like Ken Ham.

All the asparagus you can eat!!!!

Posted by: Great White Wonder | February 21, 2008 6:08 PM

#61

There is a bright side: having grown up in a literalist, evangelical, and very happily Caucasian church, I'd assumed they were pretty intractable on race.

If I had known that all it took was a nasty rumor about Darwin to make them decide they were _against_ racism ... hell, I'd have started the rumor myself years ago.

(Somehow, though, I still get the feeling their heart's not in it just yet.)

Posted by: Billy | February 21, 2008 6:10 PM

#62

I swiped your Darwin quote for my review of Ken Ham's piece of trash.

Posted by: Monado, FCD | February 21, 2008 6:35 PM

#63

Ham has been making bacon? I heard he has been porking Miss Piggy, the swine. Ham is such a boar. I know his favorite songs are Duroc of Ages and Your my Hampshire Honey. I remember his movie debubt in Deliverence "squeal like a pig, squeal like a pig".

Posted by: king j | February 21, 2008 6:35 PM

#64

Wait, isn't Ken Ham a Republican? If so, he's almost certainly too busy blowing strange guys in public restrooms to molest piglets.

Posted by: Optimus Primate | February 21, 2008 6:36 PM

#65

I did some research to see if Ken Ham actually rapes piglets. I typed ken ham rape piglet into Google and lo and behold, a very reliable source turns up as the first hit.

Posted by: AL | February 21, 2008 6:57 PM

#66

Don't tell nobody about this. This shit is between me, you, and Mr. Soon-To-Be-Living-The-Rest-of-His-Short-Ass-Life-In-Agonizing-Pain-Piglet-Rapist here.

Posted by: stoat100 | February 21, 2008 7:05 PM

#67

It ain't nobody else's business. Two: you leave town tonight, right now. And when you're gone, you stay gone, or you be gone. You lost all your Cincinnati privileges. Deal?

Posted by: J | February 21, 2008 7:15 PM

#68

*smirk* I just added "piglet rapist" as a tag to his listing on Amazon.

Posted by: Pratik Patel | February 21, 2008 7:20 PM

#69

"I would be on the front lines opposing you if you were to ever do something like that to the memory of such a great man."

Some "great man" Ham is turning out to be, isn't he? He claims racism is popularized by Darwin, yet he still continues to shun and spew out hatred towards anyone who oppose his so-called "Christian values", including Gays and Muslims.

Posted by: Crazyharp81602 | February 21, 2008 7:23 PM

#70

Not only does Ham rape piglets. I've also heard that before the rape he needs to strangle a newborn puppy to even get aroused.

Posted by: Brad | February 21, 2008 7:24 PM

#71

PZ, it seems that you may be on to something.

Here is photographic evidence that shows that Ken Ham just isn't fussy.

Oh, the shame!

Posted by: Damian | February 21, 2008 7:41 PM

#72

maybe this is a sign that creationists are simply changing their anitievolution tactics. as they have no fin or leg to stand on regarding their case against they now try to make it unpalatable to the left and a large ethnic demographic (instead of the right and largely white bunch)who suddenly see 'evolution' and 'racism' together. the longer all this goes on the more perplexing it becomes to me, it must be a dreadful burden to want to be at the centre of the universe.

Posted by: extatyzoma | February 21, 2008 7:44 PM

#73

Ha! "...santorumed!" You really are in touch with half-popular culture. Kudos to you. See, you need to be more in the limelight to show that you are not like those in the previous post on scientists' image. It is people like you that can get in touch with undergraduates like myself that love science, but also have a life well enough to know what "santorum" is.

Posted by: Steve Ulven | February 21, 2008 8:06 PM

#74

You could make the case, as horribly as Ham has with Darwin, that Jesus of Nazareth popularized the burning and torture of Jews under the Nazi Regime. Not only did Hitler credit his work to his Lord, Gentle Jesus burned the Jews, again, in Hell, this time for an eternity.

Posted by: MarquisDeSade | February 21, 2008 8:17 PM

#75

Outstanding effort Cuttlefish. Bravo.

Posted by: Efogoto | February 21, 2008 8:17 PM

#76

I would be on the front lines opposing you if you were to ever do something like that to the memory of such a great man.
-Christian Warrior

Oh noez. It's figured out the intertoobz.

Posted by: MAJeff | February 21, 2008 8:24 PM

#77

How much does anyone want to bet that Ham bags ass out of this country leaving his museum bankrupt before the end of this year. The Feds. are hot on the trail of the phoney baloney evangelists and I would bet he is on the top of the hit parade.

Posted by: king j | February 21, 2008 8:27 PM

#78


Ahhhhh!!!

Our American Judeo-Christian tradition as represented by Jonah "Doughy Pantload" Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascisim" and Ken "Piglet Raper" Ham's "Darwin's Plantation".

Orwell must be puking in his grave.

Posted by: mayhempix | February 21, 2008 8:27 PM

#79

Pure poetry, Cuttlefish, OM!

What was it that Chaucer said in the Knights Tale (movie version) - "I shall eviscerate you in verse".

Posted by: KiwiInOz | February 21, 2008 8:29 PM

#80

@61
Billy, you made a point that I've noticed too. It actually is progress for these worst-of-the-dimmest to consider racism as a bad thing. A couple of generations ago that accusation would have lead to some churches and politicians trying to make common cause with (their version of) Darwinism.

Posted by: dkew | February 21, 2008 8:47 PM

#81

Steven Carr quoting Hitler:

'The consequence of this racial purity, universally valid in Nature, is not only the sharp outward delimitation of the various races, but their uniform character in themselves. The fox is always a fox, the goose a goose, the tiger a tiger, etc., and the difference can lie at most in the varying measure of force, strength, intelligence, dexterity, endurance, etc., of the individual specimens. But you will never find a fox who in his inner attitude might, for example, show humanitarian tendencies toward geese, as similarly there is no cat with a friendly inclination toward mice.'

Sounds just like a creationist!

Posted by: CalGeorge | February 21, 2008 8:50 PM

#82

Somewhere on the internet I bet you can find pics of Ken Ham fucking the cast of "Swine Lake".

Posted by: wrpd | February 21, 2008 9:06 PM

#83

How will Kermit feel if he finds out that Ken Ham has been forcing himself on Miss Piggy?

Posted by: freelunch | February 21, 2008 9:11 PM

#84

Clearly Ken Ham deserves no respect, but to start a campaign to slander him would be stooping to the creationists' level. Let's combat these lies like we combat all the others... with the real evidence.

Posted by: Kamikaze189 | February 21, 2008 9:28 PM

#85

A young piggy-poker, KenHam
Said "you don't need the brains of a yam
To be in on the joke:
Saying 'pig in a poke'
Meaning 'poke in a piglet,' by damn!"

Posted by: PoxyHowzes | February 21, 2008 9:29 PM

#86

He touches Piglet, I'll hold him down while Tigger, Pooh, Wol and Rabbit go to work on him with rubber hoses.

Posted by: Peter Mc | February 21, 2008 9:38 PM

#87

Here is a link to more relevant quotes from Darwin:

Darwin on race and slavery

Posted by: Troy Britain | February 21, 2008 9:57 PM

#88

@ cuttlefish- OUTSTANDING. Talk about packages- making a disagreeable subject 'honey-sweet.' There is no shortage of Ham jokes.

@3 and 73. There may be a more scientific term here. Let's call it Kenhamian mimicry. This is one who infiltrates society and imitates (mimics) science for the purpose of fleecing the public. It would fall between Wasmannian mimicry- creatures that (for example) infiltrate ant society for the purpose of living off the booty of the colony; and Peckhamian mimicry, species that mimic their prey for the purpose of feeding, the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: mothra | February 21, 2008 10:18 PM

#89

This book is quite a stretch, coming as it does from a proponent of the same group that would have kept institutionalized racism going forever, if possible. The blind arrogance that it takes, as a religious group, or institution, to first turn around and say that your group was "against racism all along", when it finally is against the law, and those battling for it under the confederate flag, have lost, is amazing. Obviously it is not only religion that aids racism, and was a great source of self-soothing for slavers, but without it, I suspect that the whole enterprise of slavery and institutionalized racism, would not have gone very far at all.

Posted by: Matt | February 21, 2008 10:24 PM

#90

Having learned my lesson from Steven, I will now tell you the facts that forms the title of Piglet Rapist's book. Darwin, being the recipient of Big Science's vast power was able to break England's law and hold slaves on his estate. It was those slaves that did all of the work observing the earthworms in the field. By using the intelligence of his slaves, Darwin was able to expand the influence of Big Science.

Posted by: Janine | February 21, 2008 10:37 PM

#91

"Clearly Ken Ham deserves no respect, but to start a campaign to slander him would be stooping to the creationists' level. Let's combat these lies like we combat all the others... with the real evidence."

I agree with you 100%, Kamikaze189. Let's attack just the claims, not the people behind them.

Posted by: Crazyharp81602 | February 21, 2008 11:22 PM