…and this is a 
Me not crazy like 12 Galaxies.
Category: Weirdness
Posted on: March 4, 2008 3:42 PM, by PZ Myers
For those of you who don't follow the comments…you might want to try and read this one. I don't quite know what it's about, my eyes glazed over.
Just so you know what kind of evil person I am, I actually contemplated disemvoweling that magnum opus before mentioning it. Just the thought of hundreds of people struggling to interpolate the vowels in a long gibbering screed brought a wicked smirk to my face.
Comments
Thanks! I was searching for that thing. Now I can download it and study its every nuance. It's got a lot.
Posted by: Mooser | March 4, 2008 3:49 PM
Funny you should mention 12 Galaxies. I was talking to a friend last night about my favourite street folk in San Francisco, and mentioned that I got off work as the same time 12 Galaxies guy did. (At least, at the same time he would leave his corner for the day. The shuttle would drop me off at the Montgomery Station and he'd be tucking his sign under his arm and heading down to the trains.)
Posted by: pixelfish | March 4, 2008 3:52 PM
PZ, please put a 2500 word comment limit. That post was 80,863 words in 183 printed pages. Seems like the author just cut and pasted a book into the comments.
Posted by: pradeep | March 4, 2008 3:52 PM
Wow. An entire insane Master's thesis, submitted by blog comment. Now I've seen everything.
Posted by: gg | March 4, 2008 3:54 PM
jesus PZ, where the heck do you find these people? You must have one priviledged soul to get such spam. All I ever get are adds for penis enlargement.
Posted by: Gary Bohn | March 4, 2008 3:54 PM
i think i used to use that dude's peppermint soap.
Posted by: minstrel boy | March 4, 2008 3:56 PM
Wow — that one rates a full Timecube! (We might even be edging into Library-of-Babel territory.) I'm sure there's a catchphrase as good as PYGMIES + DWARFS buried in there, if only we could find it. This bit, for example, has a certain appeal:
As does this:
And this:
And I haven't even skimmed halfway through.
Posted by: Blake Stacey | March 4, 2008 3:56 PM
Clearly written by someone mentally ill and, as such, not that funny really.
Posted by: Wrought | March 4, 2008 3:56 PM
Wait a minute.....perhaps that's a result from that monkey experiment with a million type-writers?
Posted by: Alex | March 4, 2008 3:57 PM
Holy Sh*t! (literally)
That just went on and on and on, didn't it!? Scary to think there are people out there with THAT much time on their hands...
Posted by: Shadow Boxer | March 4, 2008 3:57 PM
"IF YOU FEEL MAGIC REPEL FROM IT, as hard as that may be."
I thought I felt magic once, but it turns out I was just sitting on my cellphone. :P
Posted by: gg | March 4, 2008 3:58 PM
PZ: I think the guy is crazy. Seriously, clinically, crazy. The kindest thing (for all concerned) is just to ignore him. The kindest thing (for your readers) is some sort of length-limit on content. On the off chance that he's not crazy, but just a contrarian pretending to be crazy the length-limit would also work.
Pradeep: Please, please tell me you didn't actually waste paper to print this.
Posted by: Bureaucratus Minimis | March 4, 2008 3:58 PM
BTW the above quote appears at least twice in the screed.
Posted by: Ray S. | March 4, 2008 4:01 PM
Ok, I got a great idea for a utility. Instead of disemvoweling, how about randomly swapping the words of the entire post.....or is that what happened already?
Posted by: Alex | March 4, 2008 4:01 PM
Wow! A psychotic book in your comments.
You're a crazy magnet, PZ.
Posted by: Norman Doering | March 4, 2008 4:02 PM
Crazyologists might be interested in the previous iteration of this nonsense, here:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/02/can_your_respect_for_geoffrey.php#comment-742619
I am not entirely certain that the content of either one was in fact created entirely by a human. There is a whiff of computer-generated world salad to them.
Posted by: Owlmirror | March 4, 2008 4:03 PM
Man, I just don't have a couple spare weeks right now to read that. That's a good thing, because I'd go insane if I tried.
Posted by: MikeM | March 4, 2008 4:04 PM
"BTW the above quote appears at least twice in the screed."
well, i mean, sure: it really bears repeating.
i mean: these things are important;
they're things you should know.
and that's why i'm bothering telling you so.
twice. and for 80,000 words.
yeah, that's a pretty sad case.
Posted by: kid bitzer | March 4, 2008 4:04 PM
So the ScienceBlogs comment system will hold for moderation comments with a couple of hyperlinks, but will let you post the unabridged Encyclopedia Insanica?
That was...wow.
Posted by: Tulse | March 4, 2008 4:05 PM
The thought of anyone trying to figure it out sans disemvoweling is already disturbing.
I don't know, could be clinically insane, could just be another chowderhead trying to figure out everything without having learned much in the first place. It's no worse than many religious treatises, although I realize the latter have more sanction to avoid clear thinking.
What I don't like is that we almost never get to find out what afflicts these people who expound their lunacy on the web. Larry Fafarman is the only goof that I recall someone who claims to have known something of his condition (his brother, purportedly) who basically confirmed that there is something wrong with him, but that he's not an asylum or thorazine crazy-type.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: Glen Davidson | March 4, 2008 4:09 PM
Ah, the nutters do enjoy a good bout of verbal diarrhea. I wouldn't have found my favorite quote without the occasional sentence displayed in all CAPS:
"THE GODS ARE ASEXUAL. THEY HAVE NO SEX ORGANS NOR RECTUM."
I don't really want to know how he determined that gods are asexual since they don't exist (except perhaps in his fevered delusions). I suppose it could be like picking up a puppy and looking under its tail: "Hey, this god has no sex organs nor rectum. I better tell someone."
I agree with pradeep@3. Put an upper limit of some kind. Of course, that probably won't stop him from posting it in multiple chunks. At least he'd have to work at it.
Posted by: Chris | March 4, 2008 4:10 PM
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 4, 2008 4:12 PM
I stopped reading when I got to "Don't be a statistic." I was laughing too hard to read any further. I'd LOVE to know the statistics of who ends up being damned or not and the data by which he comes to that conclusion along with his methods of collecting that data.
Posted by: Vernon Balbert | March 4, 2008 4:17 PM
I just did a quick (ha!) scroll-through, and all I saw was something about "the Boot (Italy) and the Scandinavian penis."
Um, so... yeah.
Posted by: Andrew | March 4, 2008 4:18 PM
WHY IS THIS PERSON NOT TENURED AT BOB JONES UNIVERISTY?!
WHAT ARE THEY SO AFRAID OF?!
Quick, somebody put me through to Ben Stein's agent; I think we got another conspiracy on our hands.
Posted by: Brownian, OM | March 4, 2008 4:23 PM
Really, if you think about it, that comment makes about as much sense as anything in the Bible, Koran, or any other bit of dogmatic drivel. This one just hasn't been around as long or had anyone come in and do a little bit of proofreading and spellchecking yet. I eagerly await Cuttlefish's succinct summation of this work in poetry or prose.
Posted by: Dahan | March 4, 2008 4:23 PM
Ah, now I understand the Time Cube. It all makes so much sense...
Posted by: andy | March 4, 2008 4:30 PM
My favorite bit,and i think the one that makes the most sense, (i'm quoting here, so please don't hate me) is:
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As far as i can tell he must have fallen asleep with his finger on the dash key. That is if it isn't a programs output.
Posted by: Cat of many faces | March 4, 2008 4:31 PM
Orgies with 10 similarly beautiful women.
now that's what I've been waiting for:
clone orgies.
Posted by: Ichthyic | March 4, 2008 4:35 PM
Scandinavia is not the penis.
Florida is the penis.
Posted by: John McKay | March 4, 2008 4:36 PM
Quite frankly, I simply don't see the benefit of not having a rectum.
"Orgies with 10 similarly beautiful women. Just think how bad this tactic fucked Italians"
All the sudden I'm wanting to visit Italy.
Posted by: Mr Miles | March 4, 2008 4:38 PM
::::THE GODS MUST BE CRAZY!!!
Posted by: Eric | March 4, 2008 4:39 PM
PZ, I'm with pradeep on this one - a word limit is a must...... but, then we would get to see this type of masterpiece. Hmm- ok now I'm torn.
Posted by: DougMN | March 4, 2008 4:39 PM
Given the length and incoherence of the screed, I have to wonder if it wasn't produced by software.
Posted by: silence | March 4, 2008 4:41 PM
Actually a quick google search on the phrase "I hope people in Enterprise, Alabama have become" shows 11 hits of this particular screed (not counting Pharyngula), all posted within a few days of each other. It might be worth checking how many of the blogs that got hit used a CAPCHA; if none of them did, there's good odds this was computer-generated.
Posted by: Rodeobob | March 4, 2008 4:42 PM
ah, and to think just this morning I was complaining to a friend that my blog wasn't very popular and got few comments.
I swear, I'll never worry about comments on my blog again.
thank you, PZ
Posted by: Dorid | March 4, 2008 4:43 PM
While trying to read that pile of madness, somewhere around the fourth sentence, my brain literally turned itself inside-out, crawled down my spine, leaped from my mortal rectum and went shopping for a Joni Mitchell CD.
I don't think I'll ever be quite the same again. In fact, right now, words taste like buttons and my fingers see limes where my typing keys should be.
Yowza! That f***-ed me up.
Posted by: Dan | March 4, 2008 4:43 PM
Wow. What a thing of beauty. :)
Looking at his/her name makes you wonder...did s/he paste the entire essay into the "name" line as well?
Posted by: IanR | March 4, 2008 4:44 PM
I wouldn't get too excited that he graced this site with his presence- he seems to be posting his schpiel on any blog he can find.
Just google the "THEY HAVE NO SEX ORGANS NOR RECTUM" bit. Other phrases show up on other sites.
I have the feeling he's trying to become internet-famous or something. Like goatse, maybe. And no, don't go investigating goatse at work, or if you have a weak stomach.
Posted by: Will Von Wizzlepig | March 4, 2008 4:46 PM
Rodeobob: at least one of the blogs that this thing is posted on uses a CAPCHA: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8968216&postID=4444898228518129122
I suspect actual distribution of the screed is being done manually -- there are few enough copies out there that a bored student could easily have posted them all over the course of a few days.
Posted by: silence | March 4, 2008 4:47 PM
"NOR RECTUM"
OH! All this time I thought the gods were just anal retentive...
Posted by: Jason | March 4, 2008 4:48 PM
To be fair, there was at one point considerable debate concerning whether Jesus' dung had remained on Earth or been raised into heaven with him. So establishing that the gods have no rectums may seem really important. If you're INSANE.
Posted by: Stephen Wells | March 4, 2008 4:53 PM
The funniest thing is that even after all that, he/she thought they needed more in the name field....and hit a max character check:
Because of their innocence, because of their purity children are god's favored people. What childre
Posted by: Ryan F Stello | March 4, 2008 4:53 PM
I can't help but wonder if there's an audience out there for this sort of thing. I mean, if I were to take this jumbled mess to a publisher...
Posted by: Kevin L. | March 4, 2008 4:53 PM
I took this phrase out and Googled it:
...reincarnating you a racoon...
I figured that it was unique enough that it might turn up some hints. You are not the only one getting similar treats. One site was a gaming "Sonic Adventures 2 Battle Cheats" site...whatever that is, but it might have some tie in with the software idea.
Posted by: jimmiraybob | March 4, 2008 4:53 PM
Rodeo Bob @ 35:
What's a CAPCHA?
BTW, The religion blog of the Washington Post has been hit by similar postings recently, but they filter them out.
Posted by: Bureaucratus Minimis | March 4, 2008 4:56 PM
Bureaucratus Minimis: a CAPCHA is a Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart. Basically, the idea is to present a task at which humans are very good and the current state of the art in software is very bad. If the task is completed, then you're probably dealing with a human.
The most common example is asking a blog poster to recognize a series of random characters which have been distorted and partially obscured.
Posted by: silence | March 4, 2008 5:00 PM
I didn't print it. I just snagged it into MS Word and did a word/page count.
Posted by: pradeep | March 4, 2008 5:02 PM
I found another example of this visionary's handiwork:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080228/ted-video-microsoft-research-worldwide-telescope/
Posted by: Alan | March 4, 2008 5:03 PM
I'm with IanR (#38) on this...
whoever this is is just pasting the whole thing into any box the "tab" key takes him to next.
Check the e-mail address he put down - se it that was 183 pages long, too!
Posted by: Marc Buhler | March 4, 2008 5:08 PM
@Bureaucratus Minimis-
A CAPTCHA is a small image with a distorted text & background used to determine if a user is human or not. Computers cannot solve CAPTCHAs. You've probably seen one while registering for a website.
I strongly suggest using them in the future.
Posted by: Skwee | March 4, 2008 5:14 PM
I feel the urge to spend years studying that crazy, I don't know if I'd survive though. My favorite line so far is:
"Telepathic requests constitute temptation."
which has a very pygmies + dwarfs feel.
I also love the use of repetition in the middle of otherwise
they instruct the computers to roleplay
they instruct the computers to roleplay
they instruct the computers to roleplay
complete sentences.
All placating aside, I think you're filth.
God, this stuff is brilliant.
Posted by: Drekab | March 4, 2008 5:14 PM
ScienceBlogs needs to update their "Having problems commenting?" link:
Having Trouble Commenting?
Occasionally users have problems commenting on our blogs. There are three main reason for this:
[1, 2, 3...]
4. You are batshit fuckin' crazy. Take your meds NOW.
Posted by: Glenn | March 4, 2008 5:16 PM
I get to call "loki" first???
It's a (very good) Dec parody.
Posted by: So Laris | March 4, 2008 5:16 PM
Feh.
Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 4, 2008 5:18 PM
I think this is a good example of why you may want to put a character limit on posts here.
Being a science blog, posts can get rather long and detailed, but I think something like a 50,000 character limit would be unlikely to interfere with legitimate posts while putting a stop to 513,443 character monstrosities like that one.
Posted by: JT | March 4, 2008 5:22 PM
"Because of their innocence, because of their purity children are god's favored people."
I guess this person has never read "Lord of the Flies".
Posted by: CalGeorge | March 4, 2008 5:22 PM
Manifest Destiny forever, baby!!!
Tough call between bot and crazy person, but I'd go for crazy person. It makes too much sense (strange as that may sound!).
Posted by: Dave M | March 4, 2008 5:25 PM
Ok, after looking at a several variants of this screed, I'm more convinced that this is an actual nutcase, rather than software.
In particular:
1. there are a lot of posts on sites with CAPTCHAs.
2. The posts are appearing slowly -- perhaps a dozen a day.
3. The screed changes over time, but relatively slowly, in ways that look and feel like a person might do, rather than the much more dramatic changes I'd expect to see if this was a randomly generated screed.
Posted by: silence | March 4, 2008 5:29 PM
Reader's Digest version:
"The Amish in Pennsylvania is the clue..."
"The Amish people are pointed in the right direction."
"The Amish in the United States is the clue that should guide your decisions:::Focus on simplicity, strive for purity."
"The Amish are in Pennsylvania and elsewhere as a clue to the disfavored:::Live simply, strive for purity."
"Let the Amish be your role models. This is truely the decent way to live."
etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, we got the message!
Posted by: CalGeorge | March 4, 2008 5:32 PM
I feel the urge to spend years studying that crazy, I don't know if I'd survive though....God, this stuff is brilliant.
I'm with you. I'm curiously drawn in by its Mandelbrot-like recursive beauty. Curiouslier and curiouslier....
Posted by: Brownian, OM | March 4, 2008 5:34 PM
Aagh! The crazy; it burns!
Though personally I think being reincarnated as a racoon sounds kind of cool...
Posted by: Cat Faber | March 4, 2008 5:37 PM
CalGeorge: There aren't a lot of Amish in Louisiana or California, yet the screed is peppered with references to those being "God's favored land".
Posted by: silence | March 4, 2008 5:37 PM
I'm sure it says something terrible about me that all I could retain from that was that "the gods have no rectum."
Posted by: Hans | March 4, 2008 5:38 PM
The guy/girl has a thing for Scandinavian penises:
... so on and so forth.
If it weren't for Italy's Boot making for a hardcore S&M scene, I would appreciate it.
OTOH, I thought a Scandinavian penis was the god's tool of corruption.
Posted by: Torbjörn Larsson, OM - owner of a Scandinavian penis | March 4, 2008 5:42 PM
So I scrolled all the way down and there was no punchline!
Not even a crappy ASCII text picture.
If I'm going to invest 6 seconds of my time scrolling down, I want a goddamned punchline or crappy ASCII test picture!
Posted by: defectiverobot | March 4, 2008 5:43 PM
Holy crap.
Inigo Montoya: Here's a windmill. Perhaps you'd like to tilt at it.
Posted by: Evan | March 4, 2008 5:46 PM
Posted by: Torbjörn Larsson, OM - owner of a Scandinavian penis
now all you need to do is append that to your handle.
Torbjörn Larsson, OM, OSP
and challenge anybody who asks to figure out what THAT stands for.
:p
Posted by: Ichthyic | March 4, 2008 5:46 PM
Sorry. I can't brain today. I have teh dumb.
Posted by: Dan | March 4, 2008 5:46 PM
Clearly a human nutcase::::::::::I diagnose 0.95 Tc, and that's a minimum. I don't give 1 Tc because the global conspiracy against him and the call for killing all "educated stupid" is missing, but the sheer size of the thing... wow. Just... wow. It's clearly clinical in any case. Needs professional help.
ASEXUALITY IS SUPERIOR. Several times.
I think the nutcase is a gay man and totally freaked out by that fact.
Posted by: David Marjanović, OM | March 4, 2008 5:47 PM
ROTFL! Six minutes before midnight, my day is saved :-)
Posted by: David Marjanović, OM | March 4, 2008 5:54 PM
Wow. That comment presents the best argument I've yet seen for making the Timecube scale logarithmic...
Posted by: Brain Hertz | March 4, 2008 5:58 PM
Between this and Time Cube guy, I now know just how far from insane I actually am. Not that I'd been worrying about it, but it's nice to know.
Posted by: G | March 4, 2008 5:58 PM
Aw man, and I thought I was the first to find the other blogs this has been posted to. Some fascinating Crazy there, but I wonder if this isn't some sort of virtual, verbose Toynbee Tile. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toynbee_tiles) It certainly makes about as much sense, and the urge to run a heavy vehicle over the post is fairly strong.
Posted by: catta | March 4, 2008 6:14 PM
Wow! What was he on, and can I have some of it, please?
Posted by: Seamyst | March 4, 2008 6:22 PM
Rubber-room bonkers, this little sausage, I grant you, but at least s/he can spell (mostly). That's a big improvement on the usual porridge-brained diatribes.
Just wondering though: what's with the multiple colons? Does it "mean" something, or was s/he using it for dramatic purposes, like ellipses?
Posted by: PipeUp | March 4, 2008 6:23 PM
So the Amish have infiltrated yet another thread on Pharyngula!
This is very suspicious.
Posted by: Kseniya | March 4, 2008 6:30 PM
A nugget of wisdom in a sea of weirdness:
"In California we experience high real estate prices."
So very true!
P.K. Dick was the poor man's Pynchon. This guy's kinda like a poor man's P.K. Dick.
Posted by: CalGeorge | March 4, 2008 6:36 PM
This is very suspicious.
you mean, considering they (Old Order) don't even allow electricity usage in their homes?
must be New Order Amish.
Oh, hell, don't even bother trying to figure it out. Not worth the time.
Posted by: Ichthyic | March 4, 2008 6:37 PM
PZ, just delurking to ask whether the the disemvowelling feature can be reversed to a de-consonanting mode. A screed that long would have all the makings of some serious backing vocals. aaoa....oeoeieoeaoouu.. oooiiieee...aauuiiee - etc.
Posted by: SimonC | March 4, 2008 6:41 PM
The last time I met someone who wrote notes like this one, it was a poor man who had slide into a life of extreme paranoia and delusion. Everything was a government conspiracy. He would never enter or exit a building the same way because he believed the government was trying to vaporize him from space with a satellite-based laser.
Posted by: Tony Popple | March 4, 2008 6:44 PM
Stupid Flanders. I knew it was all his fault.
I think the blank lines are so you can add your own crazy, if you want to. Like Really Mad Libs.
Posted by: markbt73 | March 4, 2008 6:47 PM
Wow. That sounds like John Nash at his worst ("A Beautiful Mind") (or Dr Bronner's Soap), except that it's too repetitititive (Max Headroom?); I suspect it's an artistic result of the same technology used in spam filters: the technology has gone far beyond looking for keywords, and now develops its own heuristics looking at the vocabulary, pattern and other parameters, based on submitted spam samples. In response, the spammers develop their own technologies, maybe the same kind, with, as input samples, messages they know got past. What if you were to REVERSE the technology and "deconvolve" an innocent text into uber-spam? What if you set the engines of the two sides against each other in a cyber-match and logged the output?
It DOES, in several places, make a plea to analyze it for some sort of "hosting service" or such. In fact, it sounds like a successful, creative and... reprehensible... piece of advertising.
Since a smaller example of gibberish (in a paper!) was discussed here before and led to an interesting discussion of plaigiarism, maybe somebody should run a check on this? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23032838/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._H._Bronner
This is one exemplary (and repeated) bit to illustrate my points:
Search "finalprophet" and the Man in the Moon paragraph to find my free web hosting sound file site
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Good health displays favor of the gods.
Those who (re-)earn god's favor don't have to engage in many of life's unpleasant tasks:::::
1. Using the bathroom
2. Monthly "visitor"
3. Brushing your teeth (bad for your teeth)
4. Exercise
5. Sex
6. Housework
7.
8.
99.
100.
Only the disfavored eat.
Only the disfavored use the toilet.
Only the disfavored get their "monthly visitor".
Posted by: OrchidGrowinMan | March 4, 2008 6:51 PM
Damn.
But do we need any explanation more elaborate than "Off his meds"?
Posted by: Zeno | March 4, 2008 6:56 PM
Here's my favorite part (repeated twice):
Street racers would be smart to take their racing out to the dirt track, but they are best served by refraining from this activity.
BBQ/meatheads would be wise to "Know your cuts of meat" and chose only Kosher beef/chicken, but they'd be best served by becoming vegetarian.
Are you sure this isn't a writing example from some sort of Artificial Stupidity computer program?
Posted by: Jaycubed | March 4, 2008 6:59 PM
Gracias. Just give me some room to get up to speed . . .
Posted by: Inigo Montoya | March 4, 2008 7:01 PM
Ps.
Isn't "Know your cuts of meat" a game played with the audience on the Letterman Show?
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Posted by: Jaycubed | March 4, 2008 7:02 PM
Who votes for tossing this link to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/TLDR?
I mean, textbook example and everything.
Posted by: Aaron Lemur Mintz | March 4, 2008 7:13 PM
Um, what is a "Seabiscuit type" temptation? I can't for the life of me figure out what that might mean. I can has lowbottomy?
Posted by: Turdus | March 4, 2008 7:23 PM
"THEY HAVE NO SEX ORGANS NOR RECTUM"
Well of course! That's what makes them so mean.
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | March 4, 2008 7:28 PM
Speaking of galaxies and nut jobs, has Bad Astronomy been taken down by a DNS attack? I know Phil had a troll surge last night, but I haven't been able to get in since this morning.
Posted by: Lab Lemming | March 4, 2008 7:29 PM
Bloody hell!!! Don't direct us to lunatic rants like that again. I come here to get a sense of peace from the world.
Shame on you, you wretched swine, PZ!
Posted by: David | March 4, 2008 7:30 PM
@85
I doubt it. Would a program really have the intelligence to parse the meaning of "Know Your Cuts of Meat" and then relate it correctly to the actual act of choosing? Even further along these lines, would a program be able to correctly identify "vegetarianism" as an alternative? To give value judgements in the linguistically and logically proper way (if in a batsh*t crazy manner)? It may not be rational, but it seems to have at least some sort of logical construction... I think it would require a more advanced program than exists to construct this.
Posted by: AgnosticTheocrat | March 4, 2008 7:30 PM
I found another one.
http://faustasblog.com/2008/02/obama-rezko-auchi-saddam-link.html
Man, someone has a lot of time on their hands.
Posted by: MikeM | March 4, 2008 7:30 PM
The guy/girl has a thing for Scandinavian penises:
Is that a problem? *shrinks away*
Posted by: MAJeff, OM | March 4, 2008 7:33 PM
This thing needs a title::::::::::: How about::::::::
L. Ron Hubbard's Guide to the End of the World?
Posted by: ennui | March 4, 2008 7:37 PM
Lab Lemming,
You beat me to the question. I haven't been able to get into BA either. Anybody know what's going on?
Posted by: defectiverobot | March 4, 2008 7:38 PM