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Category: Administrative
Posted on: July 10, 2008 3:11 PM, by PZ Myers
Because performance all over scienceblogs starts to suffer when a comment thread gets too long, I'm closing the thread in which I grievously insult a cracker…but if you must, you can continue here.
Comments
Hmm, turns out Jesus was a Cracker...wonder if he really had blue eyes too.
Posted by: D- | July 10, 2008 3:18 PM
1. Poor kid takes home uneaten eucharist to show his friend.
2. Church and catholics go batshit crazy.
3. PZ thinks this is ridiculous and says so, also says he may do some things to a cracker.
4. Church and catholics go batshit crazy.
Teh end.
Gives me my cheezeburgers. :)
Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 3:19 PM
FSM save our noodles, and the meatballs among them, from the desecration of heathens, and of clerics and nuns, and of druids and rangers, and especially of favored souls, being a total munchkin class. amen.
Posted by: drow | July 10, 2008 3:20 PM
I think we have missed the bigger picture in all this, and that is that Jesus is powerless agianst Zip-lock baggies. Superman has Kryptonite and Jesus has Glad bags. At least I know what to wear if I am ever compelled to attend church again.
Posted by: Rarus.vir | July 10, 2008 3:21 PM
its a miracle.i have witnessed "what? errr..." turned to "whine"
Posted by: kubenzi | July 10, 2008 3:22 PM
When I saw the words 'cracker' 'eating' and 'Bill Donohue' in the same post, I thought it was going to be about cannibalism.
All this over some starch.
*sigh*
Posted by: geoff | July 10, 2008 3:23 PM
How long will it take Bill Donohue to express his outrage over this activity in Wales?
Weekend is sure to be a cracker
Posted by: Reginald Selkirk | July 10, 2008 3:24 PM
Transubstantiation - it's crackers. Feckin' religious edjits!
Posted by: Richard Harris | July 10, 2008 3:24 PM
Thanks for continuing the comments, PZ.
Dave S, #1006: Do you seriously suggest that Prof Wacko faces the same danger from Catholics here in Minnesota that he would if he tried a stunt like this in Mecca?
Do you really think this is even relevant? I mean, how the hell does retarded Muslim intolerance excuse retarded Catholic intolerance? How does the fact that Saudi Arabia is a theocracy have to do with the fact that PZ Myers lives under a secular government despite the ill-wishes of our own Christofascists? Do you even have a coherent point, or is your intent to obfuscate the issues here with emotion-laden irrelevance?
Posted by: Chiroptera | July 10, 2008 3:28 PM
The stolen wafer may have already been recovered. What will the priest do with it? Does he throw it into a sacred garbage can, eat it, or what?
Posted by: BobC | July 10, 2008 3:29 PM
1. Poor kid takes home uneaten eucharist to show his friend.
2. Church and catholics go batshit crazy.
3. PZ thinks this is ridiculous and says so, also says he may do some things to a cracker.
4. Church and catholics go batshit crazy.
Teh end
Nah, the cycle of batshit crazy is never ending. Your summary needed a question mark at the end:
Teh end?
I didn't know that this was such a big deal thoughout histtor until reading the Wikipedia article on Host Desecration. Apparently, disrespecting this little (rather silly) bit of religious dogma has been used as justification for some rather extreme acts against groups that the Catholic Church despised.
and on and on ... One hopes the Catholic Church of today doesn't resort to massacres and atrocities to protect its dogma as they did in the middle ages, but it looks like morons like Donohue long to a return to the good old days of the inquisition.
Posted by: Mark B | July 10, 2008 3:30 PM
Congratulations....you have just committed career suicide!!!!
PS- are you trying to be a "bad boy" of new atheism?
Good luck, you hate-filled, ignorant chump.
Posted by: Brett | July 10, 2008 3:31 PM
SICOTI: Someone Is Crackers On The Interwebs. And it sounds so much like psychotic.
Posted by: Reginald Selkirk | July 10, 2008 3:31 PM
It's a plot, I tell you. It's a plot!
They're trying to bring down the SciBorg from within!
Posted by: Sili | July 10, 2008 3:32 PM
How is one supposed to know all these stupid religious no-no's? Are they codified in a book? It's bad enough when they change the traffic rules in a city without telling anybody outside.
Why don't the relgious stop using their cell phones while driving - that's flat dangerous. It directly affects my drive to work EVERY day. Having to spend effort checking for stupid behavior.
My eating a cracker doesn't affect your real safety in anyway.
What total hypocrits.
Posted by: Chris P | July 10, 2008 3:32 PM
Posted by: Reginald Selkirk | July 10, 2008 3:33 PM
I could look up the names but I'm to lazy, I'd say we're up to 6 posters with confirmed koran envy and extremely self-centered delusions that indicate they actually think their specific religion is of special importance to atheists.
Posted by: Dutch Delight | July 10, 2008 3:33 PM
We should take bets:
if PZ puts one sacred cracker on a webcam so it can be viewed live, how long would it take for Catholics to stop protesting? Would it go on for years or be over in a week?
Posted by: qbsmd | July 10, 2008 3:34 PM
Brett, I'm pretty sure the hate-filled and ignorant ones are those making death threats over a cracker.
Man, it's like the cultists live in Opposite Land--all Orwell all the time!
Posted by: H.H. | July 10, 2008 3:35 PM
This whole thing is lolworthy.
PZ, you provide me with much entertainment. Don't let these brainless idiots stop you. Ever.
People like PZ Myers make me happy to be a University of Minnesota Alum :)
Posted by: Cary | July 10, 2008 3:35 PM
For all those who are thinking of smuggling out consecrated crackers, don't bother. Store-bought (or mail-ordered) ones are easier to get, and as the blessing process doesn't change their physical properties in any way, the priests won't be able to tell the difference.
You can do what-ever you like to them (Jesus sculpture!), and in doing so, mess with the minds of the credulous hopefully to the extent that they realize how stupid their beliefs are. If you like, some-time afterwards, you can reveal that no Jesus was harmed.
Oh what fun we shall have!
Posted by: MH | July 10, 2008 3:35 PM
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | July 10, 2008 3:36 PM
Because intelligent people care.
Posted by: qbsmd | July 10, 2008 3:36 PM
Chiroptera, My point is that you weasels do not have the courage to do this to the one religious group that WILL really kill you. Oh, and when you come back with your anti-Muslim taunt, please demonstrate that I am wrong by including your real name and home address so the jihadists can find you. Thank you.
Posted by: Dave S. | July 10, 2008 3:36 PM
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/louisiana-whats-the-big-deal/#comment-292251
The Christian Love is oozing out all over.
I wonder what kind of Christian would think he has nothing to lose by committing murder. Or fantasizing about it.
Posted by: midwifetoad | July 10, 2008 3:37 PM
After reading the host desecration article from Wikipedia I don't see any difference between Muslim terrorists and Catholics. Both religions are insane, and both religions have a bloody disgraceful history.
Posted by: BobC | July 10, 2008 3:37 PM
Number of comments in the old thread is 661. Can't we put 5 more in there?
Posted by: Taz | July 10, 2008 3:38 PM
Hmm, turns out Jesus was a Cracker...wonder if he really had blue eyes too.
Jesus of Nabisco
Posted by: ThePetey | July 10, 2008 3:39 PM
It just occurred to to me that if it weren't for the selfishness of Catholics each wanting to ingest a little Jesus, they would just chew him up to make him sticky, get together and sculpt all the gobs back together so we could have Jesus back.
But noooooooooo... they gotta EAT the guy. Sickos.
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 3:40 PM
What exactly makes you people so vicious and hate-filled?
I don't quite get why you need to attack faith and physically go after believers; however, I think you would make excellent soldiers of Mao or Stalin in their "rational" liquidation of hundreds of thousands of religious peoples.
PS - want to talk about tenure?
Talk to Ward Churchill...a similar nutbag!
Posted by: Brett | July 10, 2008 3:41 PM
Six six six comments in the previous thread. It has been transubstantiated!
Posted by: Mark B | July 10, 2008 3:41 PM
Once again, Denyse O'Leary bakes a goddamn tasty cracker.
Posted by: Lucretious | July 10, 2008 3:41 PM
Are you gonna close down the other thread too? It reached a beautiful 666 post count. :P
Posted by: Michelle | July 10, 2008 3:42 PM
"physically go after believers;"
Who the fuck is doing that? You're adding too many new delusions to your old ones.
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 3:44 PM
It is hard to think of anything more vile than to intentionally desecrate the Body of Christ.
I guess that means it's not as bad as kidnapping the Body of Christ! Lol, what a bully.
Posted by: 386sx | July 10, 2008 3:44 PM
Ok, Jesus of Nabisco has me laughing outloud. That is funny.
Posted by: Ken | July 10, 2008 3:44 PM
Dave S, #24: My point is...
...completely irrelevant to the fact that some kid who pulled a prank that harmed no one is being harassed and sent death threats by thugs who are little different than the ones you keep bringing up. That it's safe to criticize the Catholics is due to the work of people who have worked hard to maintain a secular government and freedom of expression in this country, people who don't seem to include either you or Donahue.
Posted by: Chiroptera | July 10, 2008 3:46 PM
Didn't the original title of the article say "Goddamn Cracker"? Was is changed? Am I dreaming?
Hey, this is not my beautiful house! This is not my beautiful wife! How did I get here?
Posted by: Big City | July 10, 2008 3:46 PM
suckersthe religious. In fact it's just the opposite.Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 3:47 PM
Invading a Church to physically steal Holy Communion IS physically invading/attacking a religious people.
And you call religious extremists!
Wow! How deluded...
Posted by: Brett | July 10, 2008 3:48 PM
I found this link in the comments to the Strib article:
SICOTI.
Posted by: Reginald Selkirk | July 10, 2008 3:48 PM
If the Followers of the Cracker are going to make death threats... well, two can play at that game. I hold in my hand, right now, two orange-colored crackers joined in a Holy Bond of faux peanut butter. They have done nothing worse to me than to slightly stain my fingers and deposit Holy Crumbs on my lap. However, if Xers around the world do not stop saying and thinking things that I don't particularly like, I will crush these innocent crackers between my molars.
You have been warned.
Posted by: Randy | July 10, 2008 3:49 PM
Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 3:50 PM
Back off jebus boys or the saltine gets it.
Posted by: Bert Chadick | July 10, 2008 3:50 PM
I am so glad Crackergate has happened. Describing to my kids the inanity of the Catholics for believing such silliness has probably inoculated them from religion for life. Two new members of the reality based community. One not even a teenager yet.
Posted by: Ray S. | July 10, 2008 3:53 PM
It occurs to me reading the original article if you wanted to cause a lot of chaos... Announce on a public forum that you'd taken (and not eaten) a cracker from the local Catholic Church. Ideally you have several people do this at several Catholic Churches. Whether you actually go to the trouble of actually going to the service is optional of course.
But if they really believe this is is mortal sin that the whole community has to make reparations for, that will keep them busy for a while.
Posted by: AgnosticOracle | July 10, 2008 3:53 PM
Invading a Church to physically steal Holy Communion IS physically invading/attacking a religious people.
Brett as an ethical person, you ought to use thesauruses for good, not for lying and exaggerations.
Posted by: brandon | July 10, 2008 3:54 PM
PuusssZy Myer,
Don't worry about Catholics, your uni president will soon hand you your ass...
Good luck filling out those unemployment papers, Prof. Churchill....I mean, Myer!
PS - I heard the KKK is looking for a resident science lecturer....
Posted by: K8 | July 10, 2008 3:54 PM
This reminds me of the scene in Angela's Ashes where the boy (Frank?) gets sick and throws up the wafer, and the grandmother is upset because she's got the body of Jesus all over the back yard LOL!!!
When I was a kid, I had a friend who was an altar boy. We used to sneak into the church and take wafers by the bag and scarf them down for snacks.
Posted by: Fred Nurke | July 10, 2008 3:55 PM
Alakazam! *waves arms around* Omini domini!
There, I just changed every box of Original Premiums into a box of Jesuses.
You Catholics are going to be very busy, I suspect, trying to keep them all from being desecrated.
And if you don't believe I did it then you aren't respecting my beliefs.
Posted by: tsg | July 10, 2008 3:57 PM
Jesus prefers Wheat Thins. How many goddamn, fucking times to I have to goddamn tell you? Goddamnit!
Posted by: Epicurus | July 10, 2008 3:57 PM
Who said anything about invading. They will be invited, heck, encouraged to come in. I bet if anyone here was told they were not welcome, they would leave.
Wow, what a wack job
Posted by: John | July 10, 2008 3:57 PM
Brett wrote "I don't quite get why you need to attack faith and physically go after believers"
Superstitious belief is dangerous, as can be seen when someone removes a cracker from a building or gives a teddy bear the wrong name. Death threats are the result. We don't even threaten believers with violence, let alone 'physically go after them'. We just laugh at their stupidity.
You know those delusions in your mind; they're multiplying.
Posted by: MH | July 10, 2008 3:57 PM
Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 3:58 PM
Wow, #48. The incorporation of an insult into PZ's name, the suggestion of unemployment, the reference to Winston Churchill, and a bonus KKK reference.
Godwin, it won't be long now.
Posted by: Sir Jebbington | July 10, 2008 3:58 PM
Ok, this thing is starting to piss me off a little.
So, I am going to get my hands on some consecrated crackers (I have connections)
And I'm going to make a piece of protest art out of them.
Not sure what yet, "piss cracker" would be too derivative.
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 3:58 PM
From wikipedia: "Mortal sin, according to the beliefs of Roman Catholicism, is a sin that, unless confessed and absolved, condemns a person's soul to Hell after death."
Is not eating a wafer a mortal sin? Is this guy, according to Catholic beliefs, going to get tortured for eternity? I would think the Catholics would be satisfied with the torture, but they want to kill him too.
Posted by: BobC | July 10, 2008 4:00 PM
Jesus told me that you shouldn't chomp him and grind him with your teeth. It hurts! Just let his sit on your tongue until he softens, and then swallow the doughy mass. Use the communion wine to wash it down. Thank you.
Posted by: Mark B | July 10, 2008 4:00 PM
Albatross, Get your Albatross! "Do you get any wafers wif'em?" Of course you don't get any bloody wafers wif'em! Albatross!
Now we know why he didn't get any wafers with his albatross!
Posted by: Nonjebusbelievingheathen | July 10, 2008 4:01 PM
Actually it's a reference to Ward Churchill made by someone entirely ignorant of the fats.
Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 4:01 PM
All this talk about Jesus is making me hungry.
Posted by: Rebecca Watson | July 10, 2008 4:02 PM
Agnostic Oracle @ 46
Interesting plan. How about planting some hosts around in various places, and making it like a scavenger hunt to rescue the lost Jesus Pieces?
You could put them in plastic eggs at Easter.
Posted by: Paul W. | July 10, 2008 4:03 PM
Wow, #48. The incorporation of an insult into PZ's name, the suggestion of unemployment, the reference to Winston Churchill, and a bonus KKK reference.
Godwin, it won't be long now.
I believe he was referring to WARD Churchill, now Winston. But he's probably too stupid to know the difference, so I withdraw my objection.
Posted by: Mark B | July 10, 2008 4:03 PM
huh. you'd think an omniscient deity would have seen it coming, and simply stayed out of the about-to-be-descecrated cracker in the first place. so, yes, we may safely blame the "victim"
unless, of course, the deity doesn't have a choice but MUST go into the cracker when the right magic words are uttered by the right person at the right time in the right place. in which case, blame the priest
Posted by: skyotter | July 10, 2008 4:03 PM
"Not sure what yet, "piss cracker" would be too derivative."
and too soggy.
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 4:03 PM
Brett: "Invading a Church to physically steal Holy Communion IS physically invading/attacking a religious people."
Firstly, no it isn't, and secondly, no-one is advocating that. The priest/magician/whatever gives the crackers out freely. What people do with them after that is their business. They can't force-feed people bits of 'jesus'.
Posted by: MH | July 10, 2008 4:03 PM
Anyone ever hear the Hayward Banks song "Big Buttered Jesus"? I'll bet Big Butter Jesus would be great with Wheat Thins Jesus.
Posted by: Richard Wolford | July 10, 2008 4:04 PM
Just fan the flames of trolldom...I find the kid's stunt and PZ's challenge hilarious. I also find the clueless ramblings of the deluded, I mean religious posters who have oozed over full of christian outrage equally hilarious, if not fully coherent. Please continue to rant.
Posted by: davery | July 10, 2008 4:05 PM
I've made breadcrumbs before by putting Pepperidge Farms Goldfish crackers through my KitchenAid food grinder. Does that mean I've committed genocide? Did I cause a ripple in the Force?
Posted by: Ray S. | July 10, 2008 4:05 PM
"Invading a Church to physically steal Holy Communion IS physically invading/attacking a religious people."
I call Poe! No real, sane person could claim that walking into a Church, taking Communion (do they check ID?), and smuggling the cracker out is "physically go[ing] after believers". I hope.
Posted by: jynnan_tonnyx | July 10, 2008 4:05 PM
me scribbles: "made by someone entirely ignorant of the fats."
Which "fats" are we talking about, genius???
The point that tenured professors CAN be fired -- even if they need to find creative ways to do so.
Remember how they got Capone - on tax evasion....
Secular extremists really are sheltered aren't they....too much time spend playing WoW in the basement?
Posted by: K8 | July 10, 2008 4:06 PM
Also: the last time I let a guy transubstantiate down my throat he at least bought me more than a cap-full of his own blood beforehand.
Posted by: Rebecca Watson | July 10, 2008 4:06 PM
So if we could get about 150 lbs of these... and make a statue... then fill it with 10 pints of communion wine... Would atheists then by definition have built the real Jesus?
Posted by: HumanisticJones | July 10, 2008 4:07 PM
It appears that no one else has noticed, but you are really immature (and afraid of Muslims).
Posted by: The Biology of Immaturity | July 10, 2008 4:07 PM
Invading a Church to physically steal Holy Communion IS physically invading/attacking a religious people.
So a cracker is your God and a building is your people?
Posted by: Sarcastro | July 10, 2008 4:07 PM
Once at a Catholic wedding (I'm not) I went up to take communion. I was about 20 years old and I didn't know non-Catholics weren't supposed to take communion because everyone was going up to do it. Apparently I did something (or didn't do something) that tipped the fact that I wasn't Catholic and the priest shot me a look like he was about to punch me in the face. But then he restrained like he knew he couldn't prove anything or something like and wasn't sure what to do. I'll never forget that moment. It was the weirdest, strangest, creepiest moment of my life.
Of course later I found out what the hubbub was all about.
Posted by: splint | July 10, 2008 4:08 PM
Mao or Stalin in their "rational" liquidation of hundreds of thousands of
You noticed the lack of rationality in those guys too?
Posted by: Dutch Delight | July 10, 2008 4:08 PM
Waitaminnit... let me get this straight.
These Crackertholics believe that their witch-doctors can invoke the magic of the Superfriend in the Sky to make the Prince of Darkness run screaming into the night... but they can't stop a college kid from stealing their cookie?
Something smells funky in the basilica, fraters et sorors.
Posted by: Mike O'Risal | July 10, 2008 4:08 PM
To all atheists:
You describe Catholics as bigoted morons. Fine.
But if we're just matter, than our (deluded, intolerant, unenlightened, bigoted) behavior is just the result of the motion of electrons in neurons of our brain.
So I have two questions
a) how can you get angry at Catholics, if they are just matter?
b) If we are just matter, then there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong"...we're all just atoms in an expanding universe. In which case bigotry and intolerance are no more immoral than gravity or the weak nuclear force. On what grounds can you call these things "wrong"?
Posted by: Fletch | July 10, 2008 4:09 PM
#73, I am so going to make a Jesus cracker golem.
Posted by: Sarcastro | July 10, 2008 4:09 PM
Never fails to amaze me how hypocritical these cretins can be. Doesn't their bible say "each time you do this to the least of my brothers, you do this to me"? If their cretin god was in fact real, they'd ALL be bound for cretin hell.
Posted by: MrGadget | July 10, 2008 4:09 PM
K8, #71: Secular extremists really are sheltered aren't they....
I guess so. I mean, who'd a thunk that Webster Cook would have received death threats because of a silly prank? I guess you should never assume that any religion is truly benign.
Posted by: Chiroptera | July 10, 2008 4:10 PM
"So if we could get about 150 lbs of these... and make a statue... then fill it with 10 pints of communion wine... Would atheists then by definition have built the real Jesus?"
I think that would be the real DRUNK Jesus!
Posted by: MH | July 10, 2008 4:10 PM
K8 @ #48: "PS - I heard the KKK is looking for a resident science lecturer...."
Too bad PZ wouldn't work for a Christian organization...
Posted by: jynnan_tonnyx | July 10, 2008 4:11 PM
"Also: the last time I let a guy transubstantiate down my throat he at least bought me more than a cap-full of his own blood beforehand."
That does not sound at all safe. But somehow I admire you anyway.
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 4:11 PM
Rebecca Watson (#72):
And that's why we love you. . . .
Posted by: Blake Stacey | July 10, 2008 4:12 PM
You are lower than dirt Myers. You are nothing but a childish grandstanding bigot. This is rational behavior? This is the behavior of an overgrown child-man.
Talk about being socially autistic!
Posted by: BenYachov(Jim Scott 4th) | July 10, 2008 4:12 PM
It seems to me something is missing from the hate crime part of this.
He went into the church and was let in.
He waited in line and was GIVEN a cracker.
He took the cracker with him.
He didn't follow the church's rules because: HE DOESN'T HAVE TO.
There are no laws governing what you can and can't do with your crackers that have anything to do with the rules the church wants you to follow (wrt crackers.)
This is, for some reason, making me think of that never-caught prankster in Germany who did a certain thing with little flags and piles of dog poop.
Posted by: Will Von Wizzlepig | July 10, 2008 4:12 PM
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahha!!!!! they're going to have security guards passing out the precious lil crackers and bouncers at the door! Crazy extremists...
Posted by: Snitzels | July 10, 2008 4:13 PM
"They can't force-feed people bits of 'jesus'."
They might try. Didn't they recently hire armed thugs to enforce the must-eat-wafer rule?
Yes, it's true. I just found this: One week after a University of Central Florida student snatched something sacred from church, armed UCF police officers stood guard during Sunday Mass to protect what Catholics call "The Body of Christ."
They have guns. Eat their wafers or die! Catholics are assholes.
Posted by: BobC | July 10, 2008 4:13 PM
Posted by: me | July 10, 2008 4:13 PM
I'm just wondering... every time something riles up the religiots like this and they swarm the board in wave after wave for a while...
Am I the only one reminded of "Dawn of the Dead?"
Posted by: craig | July 10, 2008 4:13 PM
Congrats, Fletch. That's one of the dumbest things said on these threads yet. That takes some real effort, and you should be commended for it.
Right and wrong are social and cultural agreements. There have been times and cultures that considered human sacrifice and cannibalism right. There have been others that considered the alleged celibacy practiced by the Catholic clergy wrong. These things aren't dictated by disembodied spirits floating about and whispering in our ears.
Oh, by the way, the Catholic church also once taught that it was right to torture and execute those with religious beliefs that deviated in small ways from those of the Pope. As far as I'm aware, that's no longer practiced. So, what changed? Was it the word of God or social values? And if it was the latter, then when was the church acting against God's word... when it burned heretics or when it stopped?
Stick to your cookies. Trying to think will just get you in trouble.
Posted by: Mike O'Risal | July 10, 2008 4:15 PM
Poster @84: Burn!
It sure looks like all the self-righteousness expressed by the xian religous right about how uncivilized the Muslims acted over the Danish cartoons can be taken with just a few grains of salt now.
And now, some more bufoonery:
Blowins your horns for Jesus.
Posted by: Reynold Hall | July 10, 2008 4:15 PM
Rebecca @ #61:
The only post in a long line of amusing posts that made me laugh out loud. Understated, yet evocative. The fine, (untransubstantiated), wine of cracker comments.
K8 @ #71:
What's WoW? Is that like Truth or Dare? We atheists loooove Truth or Dare... and Spin the Beelzebub.
Posted by: Randy | July 10, 2008 4:15 PM
Fletch, thats a stupid game. You'll just insist that a divine authority is needed and therefore exists, AND, you'll even claim to know how he wants me to have sex and with whom.
I find your derogatory remarks on matter rather childish when we both know your only argument against a material universe is your own incredulity.
Posted by: Dutch Delight | July 10, 2008 4:15 PM
The anger is not at the at Catholics and their silly beliefs, but at the bad behavior and death threats that were discussed in the initial post.
The beliefs seem to produce laughter, but not anger
Posted by: John | July 10, 2008 4:16 PM
Actually we describe bigoted morons as bigoted morons. Undoubtedly there are Catholics who think this whole situation is incredibly silly. As for the rest of your diatribe, you're making the asinine assumption that a person can't be moral with a bit of the holy cracker. More silliness.
Posted by: Ray S. | July 10, 2008 4:16 PM
>He didn't follow the church's rules because: HE DOESN'T HAVE TO.
Yes he does. I wonder how Myers would feel if I got up in the middle of his class & started chanting prayers in Latin? Or if I stole a picture of his mother from his wallet & used it to wipe