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Not again...
Category: Kooks
Posted on: July 22, 2008 10:41 AM, by PZ Myers
Bill Donohue has once again issued a press release, urging all of his followers to harass my in-box. Once again, my email is rendered useless by a flood of idiots sending me bizarre tirades and links to Catholic fables and threats. There is a new change in tone: now lots of them are gloating that they've written to CAIR, and the Muslims are now going to come and blow up my house, ha ha! Thanks, Donohue, for reinforcing prejudice about Muslims.
I may have to simply dump all email sent to my more public addresses and create new accounts that I'll only make known to a sensible few. It's that bad.
Comments
Posted by: Martin | July 22, 2008 10:46 AM
There's no escaping the stupidity...
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 10:47 AM
It's pretty obvious that they are being very christian with their harassment, threats and hatred.
Thankfully they will now stop spewing bullshit about loving your neighbor and realize that is what their religion is all about: hatred.
Bill Donohue, you're a crazy freak and so is everyone following your little sect within the bigger sect.
Posted by: M. Lee | July 22, 2008 10:48 AM
Seems Mr. Donohue hasn't heard the adage about idle hands . . . of course, that's all spokesmen for god(s) has, since they've no expertise at anything practical.
Posted by: CS | July 22, 2008 10:49 AM
"Much has been written about the moral vacuity that marks the Darwinian vision of society that Myers embraces."
Why this, when the Vatican has accepted evolution?
Posted by: MAJeff, OM | July 22, 2008 10:51 AM
Preemptive (spiritual) warfare:
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Posted by: Paul Lamb | July 22, 2008 10:51 AM
Doesn't this constitute harrassment? I mean legally?
Posted by: Steve_C | July 22, 2008 10:52 AM
Bill Donohue = fucktard asshole
Posted by: PixelFish | July 22, 2008 10:53 AM
My new goal in life is to write something that will cause Bill Donahue to have a mini-aneurism and issue edicts calling for bans of my work. (Surely, if he has to call his minions in every few days for something some person said on Teh Interwebs, his minions will eventually get fatwa fatigue.)
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 10:53 AM
Our moral vacuity... Really? He said that? Much can be said about the moral vacuity of the murders, rapes and genocides described in your hateful, spiteful, biggot book. And 99% of them are praised by your so called Lord.
So suck it up with the morale, Jesusboy.
Posted by: Louis Irving | July 22, 2008 10:53 AM
PZ, do you have an email address for Mr Donohue?
I know you don't like us sending emails en mass to his followers, but I see no reason why we should send a couple thousand emails to Mr Donohue personally, see how he likes it. Even better, everyone send him a movie or similar - nothing like a few hundred 700MB emails to kill your connection!
Posted by: chrisD | July 22, 2008 10:54 AM
Set up a filter on gmail where if the contents include the words Host or Eucharist and that will get rid of a fair few possibly. Also, block anyone sending from aol.com, they're usually morons from what I've seen.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | July 22, 2008 10:54 AM
"Why this, when the Vatican has accepted evolution?"
The Vatican does, although it has been flirting with ID of late. Donohue doesn'. I suspect he thinks the Vatican is too liberal on stuff like that.
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 10:55 AM
@Louis Irving: It would probably bounce back in your face and kill your own bandwidth so I don't recommend sending a few hundred 700mb emails.
Posted by: Strange Forces | July 22, 2008 10:55 AM
Jesus Christ, these guys really don't know how to turn the other cheek.
Posted by: kitC | July 22, 2008 10:57 AM
If their invisible sky wizard is really all that powerful, and Billy D's connection to him is all that direct and special, would both of them really need a pack of slavering idiots to do their email bidding for them? This wizard of theirs must be exceedingly weak.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | July 22, 2008 10:57 AM
"Jesus Christ, these guys really don't know how to turn the other cheek."
That depends on which cheek, and if there is an alterboy around.
Posted by: Britomart | July 22, 2008 10:57 AM
You could have an auto respond message that you reserve the right to make public any email address. Then post here the repeat offenders. I am sure most of us here are well enough behaved not to treat them as they deserve.
Does Donohue himself have an email address?
Thank you kindly
Posted by: PZ Myers | July 22, 2008 10:58 AM
I don't think I can make a case for legal harrassment -- I've always made my email address public.
This latest round of email is particularly revolting, though. These Catholics are chortling with glee -- they don't have to make death threats anymore, they're just overjoyed that now the Muslims, terrorists all, will give me my comeuppance, and they're all urging them on.
So far, though, the score in number of email tirades is Catholics: 5 digit number, Muslims: 0. Maybe I'll get some islamic hate mail soon, but I suspect that CAIR is more interested in defusing any prejudice that they are all mad bombers...a prejudice Donohue is more interested in promoting.
Posted by: Asylum Seeker | July 22, 2008 10:58 AM
It will just be simply hilarious if it turns out that the Muslim response is meek and tolerant in comparison to the angry Cafolixx. All of their "you wouldn't dare to piss of the Muslims" would then be exposed to be the misguided bigotry that it truly is. But, unfortunately, that is only wishful thinking...
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | July 22, 2008 10:58 AM
Bill Donohue et al...
This is what Jesus would do? You sure about that?
You are evil. Pure, uncontaminated evil.
Posted by: Louis Irving | July 22, 2008 10:59 AM
Michelle @ no. 13,
That's certainly a risk, but for me one I'd be happy to take. For one, this was a tactic one of my mates in NZ used to do with companies which'd spam him. They never did it twice. Secondly, living in Japan, I get 100Mbps fibre to my home - my university ethernet connection is actually slower than my home one! It'd take me only a couple of minutes to upload or download the film, but in North America the download speeds are so bad it might take him a couple of hours to download it.
Even better, let's "Rickroll" him by email!!
Posted by: AJ Milne | July 22, 2008 11:02 AM
Ah, it doth warm the heart, so. So nice to see impressionable, unhinged Catholics in a murderous rage, trying to find some nice impressionable, unhinged Moslems to whip into a similar murderous rage...
Ecumenism. It's so beautiful. The great faiths of the world, reaching out to one another, finding that treasured common ground... (Wipes sentimental tear...)
Posted by: raven | July 22, 2008 11:04 AM
Bill Donohue has copied Dobson's losing strategy of
appearingbeing a humanoid toad with some equally repulsive followers.When xians act like demented, retarded, psychopathic loons, who would want to be one?
Terrorism, it's not just for protestant fundie Death Cultists any more.
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 11:05 AM
@#21 Louis Irving: ... you live in japan? can you buy me a Kotatsu heater? I wanna build one and all the ones I find online are such a rip-off! (Just kidding, I'll just keep working on saving cash for building mine. And give my money to them thieves. :P)
And well, if you connection is so great, have lots of fun! May I suggest sending him the South Park movie? He seems to love them a lot.
@#18: Yes, I don't think there is any ground for charges. And the muslims are surprisingly quiet! Could it be that they are teaching the christians a behavior lesson?
Posted by: Pygmy Loris | July 22, 2008 11:06 AM
Donohue is a fucktard. He really, really is. I'm sorry you have to deal with all these e-mails PZ.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | July 22, 2008 11:06 AM
The new eucharist: Spam.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | July 22, 2008 11:07 AM
Uh oh, PZ
Donohue's next step is to write a post adressed to the IRS that you willfully mutilated your Form 1040 by stapling your W-2 to it. Then you'll be in some real trouble.
Crazed Catlicks? Feh! Mad Muslems? Meh! IRS? Look out!
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | July 22, 2008 11:08 AM
I don't think I can make a case for legal harassment -- I've always made my email address public.
I'm not sure that's the only factor to be considered, in this case. My house address is public, but if someone goes out of his way to encourage people to knock on my door at all hours of the night, and does so with malicious intent, I certainly have a case for harrassment. I think this falls into the same category: malicious intent. Donohue is publicly and intentionally asking people to harass you. Just because your email is public doesn't preclude you from having the expectation of not being abused and harassed. I think this is illegal, and I really think you should pursue it.
Posted by: Steve_C | July 22, 2008 11:08 AM
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE for PZ to post the hateful bigoted emails from the Catholics who are sure that the Muslims will blow up his house. It would be great if they turned on Donahue and got emails (not death threats) from the Muslims telling him what a bigot he is. Because we all KNOW he is.
Posted by: mothra | July 22, 2008 11:09 AM
I have stayed out of the cracker crusades. . .until now. When is a poe not a Poe?
The Craven
In weathered building, weary.
On a wooden bench, I merely,
nodded (in sleep) to the timeless drone of one, a known and repulsive bore.
At podium with wooden railing,
old man attends, arms now out flailing,
and hails that which never was and never has been ought than endlessly repeated lore.
'Twas confabulation, nothing more.
Presently a carafe he hoisted,
To assembled multitude he foisted,
purple liquid (a jigger) to each and every one he poured.
With words from past medieval sages,
pontificated down through ages,
asserted he that enologic liquid swill of polysaccharides, and acids, peptides, proteins, yeast and ethyl alcohol made haemoglobin red as gore.
'Twas fermented grape juice, nothing more.
In flesh toned hands white wafers cradled,
and before every supplicant he prattled,
formulaic statements that (if true) a biologist would sure adore.
With practiced motion and voice uplifted,
in palm, a wafer, to each he gifted:
bone and guts, muscle, sinew, brain and butt, synaptic tissue, through chant and genuflection,
a transubstantiation of materials did he adjure.
'Twas just a cracker, nothing more.
One who left alone, unbidden,
with said wafer held, some say hidden,
is causa belli to (a hysteric) proselyte who with angry mob hammers loud at reason's door.
In his world, superstition thrives,
he cares not about the lives,
in Darfur, East Timor, the Middle East, of torture, corruption, the pedophile priests, accumulated list so tragic, none can fail but see the blinders on a worsted, wizened withered soul.
'Twas just a fool and nothing more.
Posted by: Turdus | July 22, 2008 11:11 AM
Friggin crazy Catholics. They scream at us, judge us, condemn us as evil atheists, perverts, sodomites, immoral etc. etc. etc.... yet when we point and laugh at their childish beliefs they cry foul and act as if we mortally wounded them! Apparently, they are the only ones that can criticize others with a different point of view!
Posted by: Louis Irving | July 22, 2008 11:11 AM
@24, Michelle,
The website benippon.com sells kotatsu for export (about $130). Also, there are a few websites where you can just get the heater itself... I don't have one though - not that I'd need one at this time of year... too hot!!
Good thought on the South Park movie, but probably we should send him something non-copyrighted - don't want to give them any more ammunition.....
Posted by: Endor | July 22, 2008 11:12 AM
Wait, wait, wait. So, they intend to prove that Catholism/Christianty is a peaceful religion of love under a benevolent god by sending dishonest complaints to Muslims in hopes that the scary brown people will come after you?
So they're racists, morons, and they delight in the thought of cruelty and death, these theists. Wonderful.
It's scary these people are allowed to vote. Or breed. Or drive a car. . .
Posted by: raven | July 22, 2008 11:13 AM
Donohue is harrassing PZ. This is pure, if minor, terrorism. It is called mail bombing. Just clog someone's email address with junk mail. Happened to me once and I had to delete that email address forever.
Just set the spam filters to screen out annoying email addresses and key words such as Catholic or cracker. Or just ignore the addresses for a week and delete everything or close them. Life is too short to read pure spam by the hundreds of thousands.
And forget the crackers and koran. The point has been made and no crackers were killed in the making of it. You aren't on a schedule and they will keep for years. Don't play the game of religious fanatics with brains the size of walnuts.
Posted by: windy | July 22, 2008 11:14 AM
Maybe I'll get some islamic hate mail soon, but I suspect that CAIR is more interested in defusing any prejudice that they are all mad bombers...
PZ, I don't know if it's in your style, but how about sending a small note to CAIR and explaining how this got started - ideally I would expect them to figure it out themselves, but being flooded by the lying-for-Jesus crowd can't help.
Posted by: ctenotrish | July 22, 2008 11:16 AM
mothra @ #30 - very very nice!
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | July 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Poor CAIR - collateral damage in the latest Crusade™ against (mid)western heretics.
At least so far their server remains functional - and I couldn't find any references to "Myers" or "Donohue" thereon, even on the "Urban Legends" page.
Posted by: Paul Burnett | July 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Doesn't this constitute harrassment? I mean legally?
Seriously, PZ - you should check with the police on this. If nothing else, this smells like a violation of RICO.
Posted by: Stephen Wells | July 22, 2008 11:17 AM
On consideration, I realise that the whole substance/accidents thing, whereby the wafer is supposed to "really" be Jesus' flash in essence while retaining the appearance of the wafer, pre-dates our understanding of the atomic nature of matter. The chemical response of the wafer to, say, salivary amylase (digests starch; meat, not so much) demonstrates that it contains atoms arranged in the patterns typical of bread, not flesh. And since what a substance "really is" is a matter of atomic structure, the "essence" of the wafer is clearly bread, not flesh.
PZ, you must surely have access to amylase and conc. HCl? Shouldn't that work equally well to digest wafers and pages? Chemistry demo, please!
Posted by: Norman Doering | July 22, 2008 11:17 AM
Talk to a lawyer, PZ.
If Bill Donohue has called for people to harass you by email he may have committed a cybercrime.
Posted by: bill | July 22, 2008 11:17 AM
Does this make you the most visited blog? If so, congrats.
Posted by: Jason Failes | July 22, 2008 11:18 AM
"Much has been written about the moral vacuity that marks the Darwinian vision of society that Myers embraces."
....by people who don't understand either the science of evolution nor how to avoid the naturalistic fallacy.
I heard some preacher spewing on about evolution lately talking about how we should hold those people accountable who teach our kids that the strong survive by murdering the weak.
I agree with him: we should hold such people accountable, somehow. Of course, there wouldn't be a scientist in the bunch, and we would wind up charging a bunch of religious pundits and priests.
Every few years, there's a school shooting where the kid cites "natural selection" amongst his disturbed writings. I always wish I could have taught him what evolution really is (along with an introductory lesson in logic) before said priests and pundits warped his mind on the issue.
...and then when said pundits go on TV and blame "evilution" for the tragedy, ignoring that the young person only acted on the very misconceptions that they have worked so hard to foster in the first place (and continue to foster) well, honestly, few things make me angrier.
Posted by: Theodore | July 22, 2008 11:18 AM
PZ, if you have any morals at all, you would threaten to desecrate something sacred to Jews so they don't feel left out.
Pastafarians, too. Threaten to overcook rigatoni or something.
Posted by: Joe Fredette | July 22, 2008 11:19 AM
Given that most of these emails will have similar content- and thereby be similarly worded- you could perhaps use a Bayesian filter- as found in your average spam filtering system in something like Outlook/Thunderbird, train it on a few hundred of the messages, and the rest should get auto-pwnd.
Math to the rescue of everyone's favorite cracker-descratin' blogger?
Posted by: SteveM | July 22, 2008 11:20 AM
The phrase used is "Darwinian vision of society", not "Darwinian vision of science" or "...evolution". Obviously Donowhore is trying to invoke the spectre of "social Darwinism" (and probably eugenics and naziism) being the natural consequence of atheism.
Posted by: Ibid | July 22, 2008 11:21 AM
I have a slew of e-mail addresses for this very reason. One my friends have, one I distribute to the public, one for work, and I create a new one every time I start job hunting again.
Posted by: terrence | July 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To Louis Irving et al: We could flood the asshole with www.russellsteapot.com. BD stars! BTW,anybody know what happened to that site- no updates since Christmas?
Posted by: sil-chan | July 22, 2008 11:22 AM
@26:
And here, take this, this bread, for this bread is my body.
And here, take this, this wine, for this wine is my blood.
And here, take this, this email, for this email is my bigotry.
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | July 22, 2008 11:24 AM
At this point in the silliness, there's really only one way to settle this:
Put PZ and Donohue in a room, and,
"One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war!"
Posted by: khedrin | July 22, 2008 11:25 AM
So seriously, can we get this Donohue guy's email address?
turn about IS fair play
Posted by: Glen Davidson | July 22, 2008 11:25 AM
Donohue is exploiting the situation for himself, is all. It would have been just another silly blog incident, had he never seen the value in hyping it.
But PZ could have shut it down a earlier as well. I wish he would.
It's all fun, of course, until someone gouges both eyes out if another person. Although to some maniacal religionists, it appears that's when the fun would begin.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 11:26 AM
@#32 Louis Irving: Great site, they seem to have a heater at a fair price (but everything else seems sold out...)! I don't want to buy a full kotatsu. I'm just trying to salvage up on the customs and shipping costs by just buying the heater and making the rest myself with a cheap table bought off a local shop! And yes, wrong time of the year, but perfect time to plan on making my kotatsu and having it ready for the winter. :)
...Wow totally off topic right there, isn't it.
As for the movie I can't quite figure out what could be uncopyrighted that would make him go crazey...
Posted by: JimNorth | July 22, 2008 11:28 AM
@ #40
"If Bill Donohue has called for people to harass you by email he may have committed a cybercrime."
That's okay. PZ is armed with a cyberpistol. Gotta thank the 2nd amendment for that...
Posted by: Screechy Monkey | July 22, 2008 11:29 AM
I really don't get how some of you think this is harassment. If each person is sending 50 emails in an effort to try to crash PZ's email accounts or something, perhaps. But Donahue asking every Catholic (or even every Christian) to send PZ an email objecting to his posts seems perfectly legitimate to me. You can't inject yourself into a public debate in a way that riles a lot of people, provide your email address publicly, and then cry foul when lots of people write you to disagree with you.
Obviously, threats are a different story, as is writing to someone's employer to try to get them fired for a non-work-related offense. And PZ is under no obligation to read emails, and he can change his email accounts, etc. if he wants. But I fail to see how simply telling one's "minions" to "write this guy and tell him what you think" can be harassment.
Posted by: Capital Dan | July 22, 2008 11:29 AM
Set up an alternate email addy and just close your public email for a week or so, PZ. With the attention span of these tards, I think they'd get bored with the death threats and pathetic squawkings after about a day or two.
Plus, if their email is bounced back to them as undeliverable, they'll inundate the crazed Donohue with questions hopefully.
Who knew Catholics were so comically pathetic?
Posted by: Norman Doering | July 22, 2008 11:30 AM
Celtic_Evolution wrote:
THUNDER DOME!
Two thumbs enter, one thumb leaves.
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 11:31 AM
@Screechy Monkey: Well they're mostly threats and not harmless chit chat and slaps on the wrist for being a bad boy, and that's where the harrassment problem is.
Posted by: BaldySlaphead | July 22, 2008 11:31 AM
To be honest, until any Muslims threaten you, this simply makes Catholics (by association with the fuckwits who keep mailbombing you) look completely retarded.
If this CAIR bunch have any sense, they'll have a look here and see how they can score a massive PR victory by shrugging their shoulders and saying, 'Well, we don't agree with this guy, but it's a free country. Only a religious extremist would get upset about it.'
Posted by: Jason Failes | July 22, 2008 11:33 AM
Michelle @52:
"As for the movie I can't quite figure out what could be uncopyrighted that would make him go crazey..."
How about "The God Who Wasn't There"?
The maker intentionally left it "some rights reserved" to encourage his Blasphemy Challenge and to encourage other use.
Of course, read the fine print before sending.
Posted by: Bob O'H | July 22, 2008 11:33 AM
How about sending him a file with the complete Brick Testament?Posted by: wÒÓ† | July 22, 2008 11:34 AM
(.)(.)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | July 22, 2008 11:35 AM
Celtic_Evolution-
Thumb war would work, but I recommend-
10 paces and... dueling water pistols.
Of course, Donohue has the option of using holy water, but I doubt that it would give him much of an advantage.
Argh, it burns!
Posted by: Norman Doering | July 22, 2008 11:36 AM
Screechy Monkey wrote:
I didn't see a link to the press release, do you know what Bill Donohue actually said?
That would be the key to whether this "harassment" was accidental or done with intent.
It's worth talking to a lawyer about.
Posted by: Skepoet | July 22, 2008 11:37 AM
You know what's sad, P.Z., is that Bill Donahue hadn't said anything to get this much attention until this blog incident. Donahue may be be guilty of harassment, but he comes awfully close to hate speech (funny, for a person in a "Anti-Defamation" league) in several of his statements as Alonzo Fyfe has pointed out.
I hate the idea WILL get listened to the more anyone counter-attacks him.
Posted by: Theodore | July 22, 2008 11:38 AM
Bill Donohue, Catholic League, cl@catholicleague.org
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-the-Vatican-A-Safe-Have-by-Debby-Bodkin-080712-390.html
http://maxblumenthal.com/2006_02_01_maxblumenthal_archive.html
Posted by: BaldySlaphead | July 22, 2008 11:40 AM
Addendum: What does Bill Donafuckwit conceivably think it would demonstrate if his actions did successfully convince someone to blow up your house?
That Catholicism had a point?
That you 'reaped the whirlwind'?
That Muslims are more prepared to carry out God's will than wimpoid Cathlicks?
This campaign is soooo intellectually retarded it's untrue.
Posted by: Sastra | July 22, 2008 11:43 AM
Turdus #31 wrote:
It's Shrek's Puss 'n Boots Apologetics again -- swagger around, smug and cocky, and then pull the big baby eyes and quivering underlip when your bluff is called.
The reason religious beliefs shouldn't be attacked or ridiculed isn't because the believers are tender, fragile, sensitive little kiddies who need to be protected from the harsh truths of reality. It's because the beliefs themselves are weak and childish, and can't stand up to serious rational analysis.
Despite the current fury flying our way, I suspect that the Believers are -- on the whole -- intelligent, thoughtful, and strong. They want us to pander and condescend to them, jolly them along, and give their beliefs an undeserved respect and deference. And I say we should treat them instead as fellow adults -- with real respect -- and mock their crackers.
It only drives them nuts because they secretly see our point, and can't refute it. Thus, the verbal equivalent of the Big Kitty Eyes.
Posted by: Steverino | July 22, 2008 11:43 AM
From the Catholic League site:
"...Motivated by the letter and the spirit of the First Amendment, the Catholic League works to safeguard both the religious freedom rights and the free speech rights of Catholics whenever and wherever they are threatened."
mmmm...I guess the First Amendments Right of others can be discarded to protect theirs????
Posted by: Daniel | July 22, 2008 11:43 AM
This has to be incitement to harassment; you're effectively getting a denial of service to your inbox. He's being deliberately inflammatory and then publishing your academic email address. This man is a lunatic, but then we all knew that; he was shilling for Karl Rove for years. This guy talks about Catholic moral priorities and never mentions; war, torture or the millions of American kids without adequate health insurance. He's a bat-shit insane hypocrite.
We should all be emailing the Catholic League to say how much of a disgrace this is - an institution, which given it's tax-exempt status as a charity effectively receives a public subsidy from the American taxpayer. I, for one, already have.
Posted by: Midwest Doc | July 22, 2008 11:44 AM
All of this fuss over crackers and cannibalism.
Posted by: Phineas | July 22, 2008 11:44 AM
Well, Prof. Myers, hope you don't lose any worthwhile e-mails, whatever you do.
Glen D @ #51, I'm sorry but how could PZ have shut this down sooner?
Should he have ignored the Cook situation to begin with, instead of drawing attention to it? Should he have not posted some of the death threats he received? Unlike Donohue, Prof. Myers didn't ask anyone to e-mail 1-800 Flowers or do anything with the information.
The only way PZ could have shut this down sooner would have been not to call bullshit on the reaction to Cook in the first place.
But we've got to push back against this kind of stupidity on the part of the Catholic League and the xians in Florida, not ignore it. They're going to act like crazed idiots regardless; silence only condones their behavior as somehow normal (ok, they may think their behavior is normal and this is pretty standard for them, but I mean we as a larger society should recognize it as abnormal and treat it as such).
Posted by: Branko Collin | July 22, 2008 11:44 AM
Mr. Myers, this is what you get when you stand up against evil. I wish we all had your courage.
Posted by: Nelson M. | July 22, 2008 11:44 AM
I could only imagine the letters written to CAIR...
Maybe my imagination is limited, but I can't think of anything they could say that both suggests violence and fails to offend the CAIR...
Posted by: Capital Dan | July 22, 2008 11:45 AM
I've not seen this sort of heartwarming, Catholic-Muslim buddy-buddy thing since... well... Does anyone remember that Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman?
Yeah. It was about that time.
All we need now is a sappy song sung by Canadian pop-music superstar, Bryan Adams.
Posted by: Ted H. | July 22, 2008 11:45 AM
For a movie that would make him go crazy that is not copyrighted: How about a compilation of all responses to the Blasphemy Challenges?
Though really, if what is happening to PZ is harassment, then any like response is also harassment.
Trying to get the Muslims to the dirty work is pure Fatwa envy. It's like watching a porno. "I can't get laid, so I'll go watch someone else get laid."
Posted by: chgo_liz | July 22, 2008 11:46 AM
Yeah, the racism and outright bigotry inherent in the assumption that Muslims as a group would *want* to blow up PZ's house is a real mind fuck.
Why do they assume that other religious people are as violent and crazy as they are?
Posted by: Michelle | July 22, 2008 11:47 AM
@Capital Dan #74: Oh god no. I prefer Men in Tights! Now THAT was a classic!
Posted by: Midwest Doc | July 22, 2008 11:47 AM
All of this fuss over crackers and cannibalism!
Posted by: AgnoAtheist | July 22, 2008 11:48 AM
My suggestion is a scoreboard of hatred. If my reading comprehension is any good the score right now is something like: Catholics - 10,000; Muslims - 0; BobC - 50 :). Maybe it can be sponsored by The Ecumenical Commission.
Posted by: The Science Pundit | July 22, 2008 11:48 AM
I can't say that I'm terribly surprised. My Catholic relatives have all been warning me to be careful about what I post on my blog and on YouTube because Muslims might track me down and kill me. The irony is, of course, that the only death threat I've ever received was from a Catholic back when I posted the Belgian commercial of the "hippie, playboy Jesus" on my blog.
Posted by: MAJeff, OM | July 22, 2008 11:50 AM
The irony is, of course, that the only death threat I've ever received was from a Catholic back when I posted the Belgian commercial of the "hippie, playboy Jesus" on my blog.
I've been rather fond of "Rock Me Sexy Jesus" lately
Posted by: El Herring | July 22, 2008 11:51 AM
Endor #33: Small point but it needs to be made. Muslims aren't necessarily "brown" people. Don't confuse religion with race.
Posted by: Sully | July 22, 2008 11:51 AM
I think the good news is that the number of Muslims cruising the Catholic League's website is probably something around......well zero. Will CAIR pick it up? Who knows, I sort of doubt it. I don't like the way it'll play out if it hits Fox or some other major media outlet. Everyone was appalled when stories surfaced of soldiers desecrating the Koran, but I'm sure atheists doing it will get a far more positive spin. Yeah, right. Shouldn't have let yourself get bullied into the Koran deal.
Posted by: Christopher Waldrop | July 22, 2008 11:52 AM
Turdus @31 said, Friggin crazy Catholics. They scream at us, judge us, condemn us as evil atheists, perverts, sodomites, immoral etc. etc. etc.... yet when we point and laugh at their childish beliefs they cry foul and act as if we mortally wounded them! Apparently, they are the only ones that can criticize others with a different point of view!
And I, resisting the temptation to impersonate Edward G. Robinson in The Ten Commandments can only ask, Where are the Catholics now? Where are the ones who've been here screaming at us that they're better people, that they have not only the right but the responsibility to make death threats when their religion is mocked? Where are the people who claim to have the moral high ground because they believe in the power of a cracker? Obviously they're all e-mailing PZ, but they're also too afraid to come back here and spew their venom publicly. Well, good riddance.
Posted by: raven | July 22, 2008 11:53 AM
Copied from a post above. There must be some reason why we shouldn't answer some ads and put this email address in. Who knows, maybe Donohue wants to lose some weight or something.
Not seeing why not but the reason escapes me right now.
Posted by: Joe Cracker | July 22, 2008 11:53 AM
Just two words for mr. bill donahue:
Fuck you!
Posted by: Philippe | July 22, 2008 11:54 AM
Louis Irving, your comment about not sending a copyrighted movie is spot on. I find that the latest release of a complete Linux package is nice and heavy to digest for most ISP...
Posted by: Moggie | July 22, 2008 11:56 AM
Outsourcing is all the rage these days, it seems: the Catholics are even outsourcing their violence to the Muslims. They're keeping the child molesting in-house, though.
Posted by: Capital Dan | July 22, 2008 11:58 AM
Do you think we should tell the Muslims that the Catholics consider them their lowly servants to do their killing for them when the Catholics don't want to get their hands dirty?
Posted by: Endor | July 22, 2008 11:59 AM
"Muslims aren't necessarily "brown" people. Don't confuse religion with race."
*I* don't. but, what do you think the bigots who hope the Muslims will come after Prof. Myers are picturing? That was my point about their being racists.
Posted by: TSC | July 22, 2008 11:59 AM
For fuck's sake. Back to tardensity.
Posted by: Kseniya | July 22, 2008 11:59 AM
I'm sorry for your troubles, PZ, but this is oddly gratifying. D'oh-Ho' is shooting himself in the foot, IMO. He's showing the world what an ass he is, and his followers are vacuously braying along in unison. I wonder if there are "concerned" posters on his site, saying, "No, no, don't spam Meyer [sic] or incite violence against him, it makes Catholics look bad."
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | July 22, 2008 12:00 PM
@ Michelle
I prefer Men in Tights! Now THAT was a classic!
Too true!
"Watch my back"
"Your back just got punched twice".
Classic.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | July 22, 2008 12:03 PM
Norman