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Category: Entertainment
Posted on: July 24, 2008 3:07 PM, by PZ Myers
P.S. All you happy Minnesotans should be pleased to hear that Roy will be in Minneapolis on 1-4 September. I'll be sure to put up details as they become available.
Comments
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 3:12 PM
Yaaaay!!! We've moved on.
Posted by: PZ Myers | July 24, 2008 3:14 PM
Moved on? From what?
Your veiled references make no sense to me, kemosabe.
Posted by: Michelle | July 24, 2008 3:23 PM
Goddamnit why are the cool people never coming to my lame canadian province?!
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 3:24 PM
PZ just called me, kemosabe. [blushes]
Do I really have the attention of the All-Powerful Dr. PZ Myers all to myself?
Where did everybody else go?
Posted by: Tripmaster Monkey | July 24, 2008 3:28 PM
PZ, I think Bryan means we've move on from the whole "Crackergate" issue.
Speaking of which, there's a troll by the name of "John" in the "Great Desecration" thread that insists on repeatedly posting Pope John Paul II's "Ecclesia de Eucharistia". As each post takes up approximately 45 screens, they're proving to be rather effective speed bumps in the thread. Anything you can do?
Posted by: Gary Bohn | July 24, 2008 3:29 PM
Nor in my lame province.
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 3:30 PM
Is this The Rapture?
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 3:31 PM
Is this The Rapture?
Posted by: PZ Myers | July 24, 2008 3:39 PM
Yeah, I'm trying to kill that spammer -- the one catch is that traffic suddenly shot through the roof (I have no idea why, he said, innocently), and all attempts to edit lead to movabletype errors. Major cleanups will have to wait until it all calms down.
Posted by: Doubting Foo | July 24, 2008 3:39 PM
Wow, that is so me! If only he'd sang about Concern Trolling and Moral Relativism!
Posted by: Dave | July 24, 2008 3:42 PM
Just saw Roy 2 nights ago at a house concert in PA. Got to speak w/him as well. He not only very talented but a very nice guy as well. Now I understand why he thanked you inside his new CD I bought. Thanks PZ!
Posted by: Blake Stacey | July 24, 2008 3:44 PM
Over 10,000 page views . . . in an hour. Not too shabby. That puts me at. . . er. . . something less than one deci-Pharyngule.
Posted by: OctoberMermaid | July 24, 2008 3:48 PM
I like his lyrics, but I'm just not a fan of the music or his singing.
Sadly, just reading the lyrics isn't good enough because you lose out on the timing and delivery.
Ah, I'm just bitter that he'd probably never come to the creepy Conservative Texas town I'm currently in.
Posted by: Who Cares | July 24, 2008 3:49 PM
The sad thing about that guy John/GlobalWarmingFraud is that he only shows that he's not rational by trying to spam drown the thread.
Posted by: blf | July 24, 2008 3:52 PM
Thanks, Pee Zed, for trying to deal with St John of The Copy Paste and Annoy sect.
That Roy song has been one of my favourites since I found it on YouTube a few weeks(?) ago. So when is Roy going to tour the civilized world? sighs...
Posted by: Brownian, OM | July 24, 2008 3:59 PM
Bet my province is lamer.
Posted by: Glen Davidson | July 24, 2008 4:00 PM
Here's some interesting news, which I hope will assist in moving beyond The Incident:
I don't think there's any surprise that codons are selected to prevent misfolding. That it's such a strong effect may be news, however.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: Mark | July 24, 2008 4:02 PM
Donohye has belched:
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1465
Posted by: scotth | July 24, 2008 4:04 PM
Roy performed for us in Alrington, TX. It was a night a of great entertainment. Not only was Roy great, the unsuspecting bar patrons that weren't there to seem him, were entertaining as well.
(dissing Bush in a bar in TX is a dangerous thing)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_hurst/sets/72157605054379234/
Posted by: random | July 24, 2008 4:06 PM
Those crazy conservatives are at it again saying that science doesn't work
:
http://www.modernconservative.com/metablog_single.php?p=2020
Posted by: JoeBlu | July 24, 2008 4:10 PM
Don't play innocent with us! We know it's all those atheists flocking here to be outraged after you threw the God Delusion in the garbage!
Posted by: Brownian, OM | July 24, 2008 4:11 PM
Donohye has belched
Triglav save us from the inchoate mutterings of the self-appointed Catholic Political-Correctness Police.
"Wah! The Jews, Arabs, and other mud-breeds get all the protection from nasty, filthy atheistses! Don't you people remember that we used to run the world? Good times, good times...."
Posted by: Doubting Foo | July 24, 2008 4:13 PM
just as African Americans would not tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of the Eucharist."
Niiice....what he did was like burning a cross in someone's yard. Un-fucking-believable...
Posted by: jfatz | July 24, 2008 4:18 PM
Man, I was masturbating against my will right as he got to that part!
Posted by: SC | July 24, 2008 4:22 PM
Aaaaaah. Peace.
(Allow me to angle again for one of those extra copies of TGD.)
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 24, 2008 4:24 PM
The spammer asshole on the other thread is really pissing me off.
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 4:28 PM
My favorite piece of religio-bile horked up on the previous thread is a double post from Irene (presently at #640):
Are your actions and words representative of the 8th rate university you teach at? So anyway, why did you leave Temple? Or were you run out of town?
She rather tidily provides an example of what you wrote about so eloquently in your pre-blasphemy essay. If she were to peek at your portrait I've no doubt Irene would first look for horns poking out from under a yarmulke, then figure they were airbrushed out.
Posted by: Carlie | July 24, 2008 4:31 PM
You know, John the spammer is probably so busy posting on the other thread, he wouldn't even notice if there was an alternate post set up for everyone else to move to (she said conspiratorially).
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more say no more, eh? Carlie?
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Re: Donohye has belched
And I have already dispatched yet another screed to the college president. As follows...
Dear Dr. Bruininks,
Bill Donohue and the Catholic League are attempting to reenact laws from the dark ages of The Inquisition by attempting to bring about misfortune to Dr. PZ Myers for committing the imaginary crime of "host desecration".
I would like to point out that Dr. Myers stated position and actions in this matter do not, in any way, inhibit or harm any freedoms or abilities of those who wish to promote the communion wafers to superhuman status. Dr. Myers has disrupted no Catholic Mass or in any way invaded anyones private sphere. Mr. Donohue and The Catholic League fervently believe in the superhuman status of certain wafers. Dr. Myers does not. They disagree mightily. However, only one of these parties wishes to silence, censure and foil the career of the other through pleas to vicarious authority.
Please do not grant the Catholic League's request to have their particular beliefs about transubstantiation be authoritative for those who do not hold them. Dr. Myers is an asset to the cause of freedom and education at your institution and wherever else he may go. You would do The University of Minnesota a great disservice
to loose him.
Sincerely,
[Omitted for this post]
Posted by: SC | July 24, 2008 4:36 PM
Since we're here on the calm thread, I'll take the opportunity to tell Brownian and Ken Cope how much I've enjoyed their comments lately.
Posted by: JM Inc. | July 24, 2008 4:36 PM
Oh, I love this song!
Posted by: Niobe | July 24, 2008 4:38 PM
"Donohye has belched"
Shouldn't that be "brayed"?
Posted by: Carlie | July 24, 2008 4:39 PM
What are you talking about, Ken? (she asked him knowingly)
Posted by: SC | July 24, 2008 4:39 PM
You would do The University of Minnesota a great disservice to loose him.
That's funny.
Posted by: Steve_C | July 24, 2008 4:43 PM
Yes. We should all abandon that thread until later. I read it. Great Post. Very well done. We're all ready to move one. The pissed Catholics will be stalking us for days though.
Maybe we should treat them all like trolls and just ignore them. But, damn that'll take a lot of restraint.
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 4:45 PM
Posted by: SC | July 24, 2008 4:39 PM
"You would do The University of Minnesota a great disservice to loose him.
That's funny."
Why is that funny?
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 4:46 PM
Are you a knower? Eh? What's it like, then?
Posted by: SC | July 24, 2008 4:49 PM
:)
Posted by: Hessenroots | July 24, 2008 4:49 PM
@ 17
Science in the midst of all this tomfoolery? eghads!
Thanks for the link! Something to brain around while the other thread decreases to a dull roar.
Posted by: Carlie | July 24, 2008 4:50 PM
I am into photography...
Posted by: HolyRusk | July 24, 2008 4:52 PM
Roy gave a gig in San Francisco recently, it was such a great moment.
Posted by: El Herring | July 24, 2008 4:53 PM
I've had to abandon it, I've never seen so much copy&paste vomit in my life.
I think someone's a bit upset.
Posted by: Mark B. | July 24, 2008 4:53 PM
Hey PZ (repost from previous thread):
1. How about a post character limit? Although it might be hard on some of the more thoughtful posters, 4096 characters would be enough for most posts. If someone has something longer to say, they can split it into two or more posts.
2. How about a little javascript to defeat the most common forms of cut-and-paste? You can easily write something to defeat right clicking and cntrl-V. I suspect you can defeat dragging text in with the mouse, but I don't know how to do that off the top of my head. Such things are pretty easy to defeat, but it should stop some of the stupider spammers from pasting in long screeds.
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 24, 2008 4:55 PM
#36--
I don't mind debating them substantively, but this spamming shit has got to stop.
Perhaps this site needs a rating system a la Dailykos.
Posted by: Bryan | July 24, 2008 4:56 PM
SC:
Damn! You've shown me my error.
If I was Catholic I might be inclined to write veiled threats and prey[sic] for you.
: )
Posted by: MrQhuest | July 24, 2008 5:01 PM
From the Catholic League:
"It is important for Catholics to know that the University of Minnesota will not tolerate the deliberate destruction of the Eucharist by one of its faculty. Just as African Americans would not tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of the Eucharist."
Hmmm... Burning a cross in your own home is an offense? Having a copy of Mein Kampf on your coffee table is a hate crime? There is no comparison here.
MrQhuest
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 5:02 PM
The reminder to note the number of the cut and paste job, then use the browser's search function to type the number of the next post, saved me some carpal tunneliness.
SC, thanks for the nod; I thought I was trying to stay out of the train-wreck of these cracker threads, but the topic has brought out some of the best and worst in all of us.
Posted by: Brian Coughlan | July 24, 2008 5:06 PM
Highlights of Obama's speech are up : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xrKuQw0Ayw
Posted by: Aaron | July 24, 2008 5:09 PM
Re: #44
T'would be easier to simply do a character limit. No comment on a blog should be that lengthy anyways -- the limit could even be a ridiculously large number (5.0 x 10^3? 1.0 x 10^4?) of characters. Normal posters wouldn't be affected, just tards.
Posted by: Gary Bohn | July 24, 2008 5:18 PM
Brownian #16: "Bet my province is lamer."
Not a chance. All we get are old farts from the '60s and one hit wonders. And we're too damn conservative to bring in anyone even remotely controversial. sigh.
Although we did get the Blue Man group.
Posted by: Patricia | July 24, 2008 5:19 PM
Man that tard is hard to stomach! I'm sitting here giggling over the faint coming to poor MAJeff when he tries to blah blah that crap away. Teee-hee ;)
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 5:27 PM
I am into photography...
Um, Nietzsche was a pho-to-grapher!
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | July 24, 2008 5:29 PM
I think MAJeff is just sitting back sipping on pinot and enjoying the fun. That would be a lot blahs...
Posted by: Bart Mitchell | July 24, 2008 5:31 PM
Beautiful, I came home looking forward to cracker desecration, and instead I see ROY! Had to listen to him first.
As someone who finds himself, politically, in the middle, I find liberals to be far more refreshing to talk with for this very reason: They can laugh at themselves.
People who take themselves too seriously shouldn't be trusted.
Posted by: Seamyst | July 24, 2008 5:32 PM
My boyfriend and I had the great pleasure of seeing Roy live this past Saturday. Not only is he even more awesome live in concert, but he's also incredibly nice and down to earth - during the break I told him how much "Thanks for the support" meant to me and thanked him for it, and we talked about it for a couple of minutes. And after the concert he shook hands with EVERYone on their way out.
Posted by: llewelly | July 24, 2008 5:37 PM
I for one would find this dreadfully annoying, since I type up nearly all of my comments in emacs, and then paste them into firefox. There are ways around it, but in general I stop reading sites that try to limit copy & paste.A much better solution would be to search recent comments by the commenter for matching text, and put the comment in the moderation bin if it's over 50% repeated, and in the spam bin if it's over 90% repeated.
Posted by: Brownian, OM | July 24, 2008 5:38 PM
Thanks for the compliment SC; I was worried my mad skillz as a satirical polemicist (polemical satiricist?) were rusting under the crushing weight of Catholic dogmatism.
But, but Gary, my province invented conservatism. Then we invented oil. And then we invented corporate cronyism and called it fiscal responsibility. And then we invented philosophical and economic arguments rebutting criticism of said cronyism, though they mostly consist of appeals to consequences (the consequences being the embodiment of evil: the NEP and Trudeau). And now we have lots of trucks with pissing Calvin decals on the back driven by cokeheads with cowboy hats, bad teeth, and cheekfuls of chaw. It's like living in The Land of Sergio Leone Film Extras That Time Mostly Forgot, But Remembers Every So Often to Inflict A Band Like Nickelback Upon. I don't know what any of this has to do with anything, but someone please help me! They're everywhere!
Whew. So nice to be in here away from the crowd.
Posted by: Hessenroots | July 24, 2008 5:44 PM
"Whew. So nice to be in here away from the crowd."
Isn't it though? :)
925 comments, not long 'til it's killed I imagine.
Posted by: David vun Kannon, FCD | July 24, 2008 5:44 PM
Ken @27 - Irene was referring to Dr Myers' former workplace, Temple University. Sorry to interrupt the Monty Python quote fest.
Posted by: JoeBlu | July 24, 2008 6:01 PM
llewelly: Respect. You are truly among the most die hard of emacs users. I am ok with text boxes, but I hope one day to have reached that level of emacs oneness.
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 6:03 PM
Irene was referring to Dr Myers' former workplace, Temple University
That's quite a relief to hear that, thank you. There's plenty of apoplexy on the thread next door without my having to hallucinate it.
Posted by: Jon | July 24, 2008 6:05 PM
Nice, thanks for the reminder PZ! Roy is playing here next Wednesday. I am so there.
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 6:11 PM
"It is important for Catholics to know that the University of Minnesota will not tolerate the deliberate destruction of the Eucharist by one of its faculty. Just as African Americans would not tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of the Eucharist."
It seems unlikely that UMM would want to use a picture of the contents of PZ's trash can as grounds for dismissal. PZ would be within his rights to appeel such a move.
Posted by: Rahne | July 24, 2008 6:25 PM
I masturbate against my will all the time, it's part of the fun. :)
Posted by: idahogie | July 24, 2008 6:25 PM
I'm currently making arrangement for Roy to play in Idaho Falls next month AND HE'LL BE STAYING AT MY HOUSE!!!
PWN3D!!!
Posted by: Mark B. | July 24, 2008 6:27 PM
Garr, emacs. I used that a little when I was editing shell scripts back in the day. Powerful tool if you knew all of the keystroke shortcuts, but I never used it long enough to really get the hang of all that. The closest I get to that these days is editing Python scripts using either the Python editor or TextPad.
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 6:34 PM
The last time I used emacs was on a Symbolics 3650. On other computers, VI was not just a text editor, but part of a complete 3D modeling package. BTW, I hear Microsoft has completely ripped off and cloned Sun's Open Office.
Posted by: Kel | July 24, 2008 6:44 PM
Got to love being a liberal.
Posted by: Carlie | July 24, 2008 6:46 PM
He'll be playing an hour and a half from me next Saturday! Woot!11!
Posted by: Andrés Diplotti | July 24, 2008 6:46 PM
So... Donohue is spokesman of the U of Minnesota now?
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 6:54 PM
Wow. Check out the last line in the latest version of PZ's wikipedia entry:
On July 24, 2008, PZ Myers in his post "The Great Desecration" wrote that he had pierced the consecrated wafer with a rusty nail and simply threw it in the trash together with old coffeegrounds and a banana peel. He also nailed it to a few ripped-out pages of the Qur'an and The God Delusion, and included a photograph of these items in the garbage. He wrote that nothing must be held sacred and encouraged people to question everything.[25]
He is immature and should be prayed for and brought to his knees to beg for God's forgiveness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 24, 2008 6:57 PM
Ken #72,
"brought to his knees"
They have such a coercive mentality. The idea of being free and independent must truly frighten them.
Posted by: Ken Cope | July 24, 2008 7:03 PM
That last line has now mysteriously vanished. It must be a miracle.
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 24, 2008 7:10 PM
The last line is still viewable on the history page.
A testament to someone's fear of freedom.
Posted by: John B. Sandlin | July 24, 2008 7:35 PM
I didn't realize all of that was required to be a liberal... I have a lot of catching up to do.
Well, except I'm not actually that liberal... but since the conservatives won't have the godless... and everyone hates the moderates... even other moderates... I'm stuck for a proper classification. Well, there is that independent thing.
JBS
Posted by: paul lurquin | July 24, 2008 7:39 PM
#60,
Yes, PZ used to be an assistant professor at Temple U. That's all in his published cv. Irene's question is legit; Why did PZ leave? Since he left after 6 years of service, I suspect that PZ was denied tenure. Again, his cv shows no research grants during that period and lame pubs. That's the kiss of death at a research university.
Also, UMM is 8th (or lower) rate compared with Temple.I really don't care about the desecration business and I don't have an axe to grind with PZ either. I do care about the whole truth, though. In addition, if PZ was indeed denied tenure (or was otherwise asked to leave) at Temple, that would be the ultimate irony, wouldn't it?
Posted by: ddr | July 24, 2008 8:02 PM
Paul Lurquin #60
Why? What does that have to do with anything?
it is just petty sniping.
Posted by: "Q" the Enchanter | July 24, 2008 8:17 PM
Roy Zimmerman doesn't even get the half of it. Do you know how f***ing* sick and tired I am of all the arugula, latte and brie I have to consume?
*Expurgated version of 'fucking'.
Posted by: Emmet Caulfield | July 24, 2008 9:06 PM
The Adamant Atheist #73,
Indeed, but how batshit insane they got does enable one to understand how religion warps the mind until the point where they believe that torturing people who don't believe in the magic cracker is OK. In some sense, it has solved a longstanding mystery of the Inquisition for me: how in hell people could boil another person in oil or burn them at the stake. Many of these demented fuckwits would do it in a heartbeat to get PZ to "recant his heresy".
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 24, 2008 9:20 PM
#80--
This reminds me of a discussion I once had with a friend. He said "not all religious beliefs are harmful, some are benign and even charming." I told him I wasn't so sure. He told me I was being "dogmatic" and "unsophisticated."
This whole episode has vindicated my position, I think. Once you imbue an object or idea with other-worldly significance, you're pretty much severing ties to reality and heading for the Twilight Zone.
Posted by: melior | July 24, 2008 9:29 PM
I saw Roy play live in Houston a few months ago, and I laughed so hard my face hurt.
Don't miss him if he comes to your town.
Posted by: arensb | July 24, 2008 10:20 PM
Just double-click a word somewhere (to tell your browser where to start searching) and search for "by:" to jump straight to the end of the post. (Let the machine find the end of the post for you. That's what machines are for.)
Posted by: arensb | July 24, 2008 10:36 PM
You'd prefer burqa-ed references, maybe?
Posted by: arensb | July 24, 2008 10:38 PM
llewelly:
You may want to look up the "It's all text" Firefox extension. It adds an "edit" button next to text fields, which allows you to edit the field with your favorite editor (thus saving you some copying and pasting). I have mine set to "emacsclient".
Posted by: paul lurquin | July 24, 2008 11:56 PM
#78,
This just shows that PZ is a failed research scientist. No more, no less.
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 25, 2008 12:03 AM
It wouldn't matter if PZ taught biology under a bridge to drifters.
Religious claims would still be complete rubbish.
Posted by: andyo | July 25, 2008 12:11 AM
Have you heard his older songs, though? I also don't like as much his newer ones, but the classics like Creation Science 101, Jerry Falwell's God, Defenders of Marriage, Chickenhawk, and less old ones like Thanks for the Support, Hello NSA, and of course the "completely heterosexual" series are all great, I'd say genius. Check out his channel on youtube.
Posted by: Downfall_of_humanity | July 25, 2008 2:42 AM
'Indeed, but how batshit insane they got does enable one to understand how religion warps the mind until the point where they believe that torturing people who don't believe in the magic cracker is OK."
#80: Nobody who is religious is torturing anyone. I am not even catholic, but you are acting like a pussy. Torturing is a long way from someone being disrespectful and just an outright dick to someone else.
Are liberals pussies like this all the time? Boo hoo they are upset because we disrespect other people and tramp all over their beliefs?
Posted by: Downfall_of_humanity | July 25, 2008 2:55 AM
"This just shows that PZ is a failed research scientist. No more, no less."
No, he is more of an attention whore who is trying to build up atheism while trying to slam other people's lives.
He uses science as a cover to be an asshole and tries to recruit other morons like a lot of people on here. It's like the skinhead Nazi movement, only more useless.
Then he puts out all of this garbage and wonders why he is getting death threats. What a fucking moron. I mean seriously. I am not Catholic but seriously.
If you are going to basically bash someone's religion, disrespect them and basically try to fuck them up the ass with a bunch of bullshit blog posts, don't you think some people would react violently.
What he is too stupid to understand is that this reaction is the human condition. Replace religion with someone's sports team, someone's school, someone's own family and you are likely to get the same result.
He is too fucking stupid to figure it out.
Not only that, but too be honest what good has he done with his life?
This is not a threat, it is a life examination. I mean honestly what has he done with his life that helps humanity in any possible way. His work as a biologist is already being done by better people in the field. He is adding nothing positive to this life and is only being destructive and really is not an asset to the human race. He produces more waste than anything of actual value. There are much better blogs out there and the only thing he does is provide waste and helping himself. There is nothing redeeming in that. If he happen to pass away tomorrow because of a heart attack I and most of the people around the world would not even bother with tears. You don't need to cry for someone that did nothing in life.
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck, FCD | July 25, 2008 3:05 AM
Careful where you walk, folks. That mangy cat just went D_o_h on the carpet.
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 25, 2008 3:20 AM
Boo hoo, Downfall of Humanity doesn't like PZ.
Who fucking cares. Religion is still bullshit.
Posted by: Downfall_of_humanity | July 25, 2008 4:10 AM
"Who fucking cares. Religion is still bullshit."
Bullshit to someone who is a douchebag maybe. Why the fuck to you have to be so useless to humanity?
Nobody would give a fuck what you believe as long as you don't attack others and act like a douchebag.
People here don't get it. They are like some fucking retarded kid complaining about someone else. Fucking pay attention to your own needs and leave other people alone.
It's pretty sad that I have to come on here and tell you something you should have learned from your parents. The world is not getting to be a better place to live and you are making it much worse.
Posted by: Downfall_of_humanity | July 25, 2008 4:16 AM
"Religious claims would still be complete rubbish."
And you still would be a worthless piece of garbage and if being human came with a rating you would be a negative number in helping humankind.
If people had to get judged by all the things they have done to help humanity, there would be no atheists.
That is exactly what I mean by "your a worthless fuck".
Posted by: The Adamant Atheist | July 25, 2008 4:22 AM
It's "you're."
You religious kooks are ignorant fools.
Learn to spell, shit.
Posted by: marc buhler | July 25, 2008 4:45 AM
Great stuff - must forward this to some friends here down under, rotfl.
(signed) marc
Posted by: Lisa Simpson | July 25, 2008 4:49 AM
I guess that executive stress ball we got d.o.h. for Christmas isn't working.
Posted by: Stjuuv | July 25, 2008 4:59 AM
"Fucking pay attention to your own needs and leave other people alone."
- Thats the lamest defense of religion I have ever seen. Organized religion is the single most getting-involved-in-other-peoples-business crowd in the world.
"If people had to get judged by all the things they have done to help humanity, there would be no atheists."
- Oh, please. If people had to get judged by how much they are ignoring the real world and discriminating others based on delusions, then there would be no atheists.
Posted by: Matt Heath | July 25, 2008 6:05 AM
I Zimmerman thread has been hijacked into God talk? Is nothing sacred to these people?
Screw this! I'm going to erv.