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They're joking, right?
Category: Weirdness
Posted on: August 28, 2008 7:45 PM, by PZ Myers
The pope has condemned this silly sculpture as blasphemous, and German Catholics are trying to get it removed from display.
They can't be serious, can they? It's kitschy and funny. But really, they're unhappy about this.
The Vatican wrote a letter of support in the pope's name to Franz Pahl, president of the regional government who opposed the sculpture.
"Surely this is not a work of art but a blashphemy and a disgusting piece of trash that upsets many people," Pahl told Reuters by telephone as the museum board was meeting.
The Vatican letter said that the work "wounds the religious sentiments of so many people who see in the cross the symbol of God's love".
Pahl, whose province is heavily Catholic, was so outraged by the sculpture of the pop-eyed amphibian that he went on a hunger strike to demand its removal and had to be taken to hospital during the summer.
So wait…now doing anything with two sticks stuck together at right angles is going to be an affront to "God's love"? I have been told over and over again by pompous wackaloons that I'm on the shock-jock trajectory, compelled to try and top my outrages against religion in an ever-upward spiral of offense, and that it's going to be really hard to top cracker abuse. However, it looks like you can piss off the pope just by playing around with a couple of popsicle sticks.
Comments
Posted by: minusRusty | August 28, 2008 7:49 PM
Of course it's blasphemous! Crucifying Kermit the Frog?!?
Not good.
Posted by: Zeno | August 28, 2008 7:51 PM
It's a "blashphemy"? I think that's a blasphemy when it's drunk, right?
But let's not mock the anuran crucifix. After all, froggy croaked for our sins.
Posted by: minusRusty | August 28, 2008 7:51 PM
Hah! #1!! w00t!
My life is complete!
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | August 28, 2008 7:51 PM
These super-sensitive idiots just make it too easy for artists. But "thanks for the publicity" is the best response. Nobody'd know who Mapplethorpe was, if not for Ed Meese. etc. etc.
My "Be a famous artist kit":
http://mjranum.deviantart.com/art/Be-a-famous-artist-kit-80745729
Y'know, when mankind outgrows religion, we'll have to keep a few believers around just as fuel for comedy.
Posted by: JoJo | August 28, 2008 7:53 PM
What was this gesture supposed to prove? That he's an idiot willing to do serious injury to himself or even die because he's offended?
Posted by: Alex | August 28, 2008 7:55 PM
Very funny. I also like this one.
Posted by: Jimi | August 28, 2008 7:55 PM
I love the irony that one of the worst instruments of torture ever devised by man is an iconic symbol of "god's love".
The mind wobbles.
Posted by: Nick Gotts | August 28, 2008 7:56 PM
Looks like he's in a bad way - maybe about to croak.
Posted by: Steve_C | August 28, 2008 7:57 PM
Jesus wasn't green!!!!
Why did they crucify Kermit!!! I love the Muppets. I'm offended.
Posted by: Grumpy | August 28, 2008 7:59 PM
Like only Jesus was ever crucified.
Posted by: Nick Gotts | August 28, 2008 7:59 PM
At least crucifixion wouldn't be quite as bad for a frog. I mean, imagine you're hanging up there, and a fly comes and settles on your nose - and you can't reach it! If you're a frog, on the other hand, you just whip your tongue out, and you've got a refreshing snack!
Posted by: MyToonBear | August 28, 2008 8:01 PM
Actually it's *Italian* catholics, as Südtirol is a German-speaking region of Italy. And the Pope rules over Italy, unfortunately ;)
Posted by: BobC | August 28, 2008 8:02 PM
As if Jebus hanging from a cross isn't disgusting.
Posted by: LisaJ | August 28, 2008 8:03 PM
Oh yeah, well I think the Pope-mobile is a "disgusting piece of trash" that has got to upset many car lovers.
Hilarious picture. I think the cross looks alot better than usual with a little extra pop of colour.
Posted by: Kel | August 28, 2008 8:03 PM
As soon as the Vatican issues an edit saying that eating beef is wrong because the cow is a sacred animal to the Hindus, then maybe they'll have a point. It's not that they care about a religious icon being mocked, they care about their religious icon being mocked. Religious tolerance is one huge act in hypocrisy, no-one expects people to follow the sensibilities of all religions, just that people should follow the sensibilities of the one they follow.
Also, can someone explain why the frog has a beer glass in one hand and an egg in the other? And one final question: is us calling that kermit just like people calling the face in that moth Jesus? Is that really Kermit or just an anthropomorphic frog?
Posted by: Bride of Shrek OM | August 28, 2008 8:04 PM
I don't think its blasphemous,I think its rather tasteful. I mean they did go to the trouble of giving him a little loincloth to cover up his little green frog willie.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 28, 2008 8:06 PM
However, it looks like you can piss off the pope just by playing around with a couple of popsicle sticks.
Actually, thinking about this, that's just awesome. Those things are what, 30 cents to the thousand at a craft store? And small plastic crucifiable gew-gaws, I figure, I could get from yer basic dime store grab bin at similar rates...
Yep. Punching this up on the spreadsheet in my head, it seems to me that for somethin' like fifty bucks total, we should be able to keep the Vatican busy with popsicle-stick 'blasphemy' 24 hours a day, seven days a week for several years. Mebbe even busy enough they've no time left for randomly screwing up various nations' reproductive health policies...
Tell your friends with galleries. It's cheap, they get publicity, and the world gets the HPV vaccines. It's win win, baby.
Posted by: qedpro | August 28, 2008 8:07 PM
If god was real then Jim Henson would return from the dead and toast everyone... to show god's love of course.
personally, i would have preferred miss piggy.
mmmmmmmmmm pork!!!
Posted by: Nick Gotts | August 28, 2008 8:07 PM
BobC@13,
Indeed, I saw a far more disturbing sculpture - though I must say a skilfully executed one (hah!) in St. Asaph cathedral in North Wales recently - it really did look like a zombie Jesus, the lower part of him being mostly skeletal, while the upper half was still alive. Would certainly have given me nightmares as a kid, and there it was, on full public display. They had a comments book underneath it, full of Christoids gushing about how inspiring it was. I just wrote "gruesome" - and my name and address.
Posted by: inkadu | August 28, 2008 8:08 PM
It's structurally unsound is what it is. Every good crucifier knows the nails have to go between the radius and the ulna.
And can someone explain why Jesus Sapien is holding a coffee mug and an egg?
Posted by: Skwee | August 28, 2008 8:08 PM
Is it holding a coffee mug in its right hand?
Posted by: David D.G. | August 28, 2008 8:09 PM
It's extremely awful art, but I'd hardly call it "blasphemy" (or "blashphemy," for that matter). It's just in bad taste -- as is EVERY CRUCIFIX EVER MADE.
~David D.G.
Posted by: mayhempix | August 28, 2008 8:09 PM
The Pope has got it all wrong.
He's supposed to kiss the frog and it turns into Prince Jebus.
Beats crackers any day.
Posted by: Paul Burnett | August 28, 2008 8:09 PM
Does anybody know what the symbolic meaning of the beer mug in one hand and the egg in the other hand might be?
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 8:10 PM
Like only Jesus was ever crucified.
an obvious but excellent point, which will of course be missed amongst the heavy, heavy amount of projection being undertaken by all the xians.
Posted by: BobC | August 28, 2008 8:12 PM
A dead human ape hanging from an execution device is a symbol of Mr. God's love? This must be the same loving God who's going to torture me in hell because I don't believe in it.
Posted by: BennyP | August 28, 2008 8:12 PM
As if Jesus were the only 'person' ever to be crucified.
The real news would be the religious offense at depicting torture. Who is the patron saint of water boarding?
Posted by: Longtime Lurker | August 28, 2008 8:14 PM
Thank the founders we have no blasphemy laws!
Wonder if he broke his fast with frog legs...
Posted by: Porky Pine | August 28, 2008 8:14 PM
And Christians claim that they don't worship idols?
Posted by: 386sx | August 28, 2008 8:15 PM
The Vatican letter said that the work "wounds the religious sentiments of so many people who see in the cross the symbol of God's love".
Yeah right he punishes people by throwing them in hell forever. He died for their sins, but he still puts them in hell! And he isn't even dead! Nice guy.
Posted by: anthropicOne | August 28, 2008 8:15 PM
To the Vatican and all those offended by the kermitafiction:
I fart in your general direction.
Posted by: MoxieHart | August 28, 2008 8:18 PM
I have to second the sentiment that no one was ever crucified before Jebus and no one was ever crucified afterwards.
I don't want to see how pissed these people get when they see a scarecrow, they're often crucified.
Posted by: qedpro | August 28, 2008 8:18 PM
you'd think they'd be more outraged that sesame street depicted a frog and a pig in a monogomous relationship.
Posted by: JoJo | August 28, 2008 8:19 PM
MyToonBear #12
Witness the Italian divorce laws.
Posted by: frog | August 28, 2008 8:20 PM
PZ, are you threatening me?
I forgive you, for you know not what you do.
Posted by: Calladus | August 28, 2008 8:23 PM
You know that two sticks at right angles are blasphemous because if rub them hard enough they burst into flames. That's proof, right?
Anyway, if he's upset about that, then this would really piss him off.
Posted by: frog | August 28, 2008 8:23 PM
#24 Paul Burnett: Does anybody know what the symbolic meaning of the beer mug in one hand and the egg in the other hand might be?
Well, the beer cup is symbolic of my constant drunkeness. And the egg is because I sure do love me green eggs and ham.
Posted by: CalGeorge | August 28, 2008 8:24 PM
A bright green crucified frog is a symbol of angst.
The old white catholic guy in the pointy hat is a symbol of stupidity.
All's right with the world.
Posted by: RamblinDude | August 28, 2008 8:28 PM
Well I think it's beautiful. It shows the frog's love for us.
Posted by: Nick Gotts | August 28, 2008 8:28 PM
Calladus@36,
Brilliant! I gave him the grass skirt, the mouse slippers and the snorkel.
Posted by: what | August 28, 2008 8:28 PM
So wait...now doing anything with two sticks stuck together at right angles is going to be an affront to "God's love"?
I think thats a bit of a straw man, its obviously a representation of christ. I wouldn't consider it "anything" in the way that sentence was implying. Does anyone else agree, or am I just being too literal about PZ's post? I realize it was an exaggerated point.
Posted by: Magnus | August 28, 2008 8:29 PM
In my religion (that I just invented) God's sister (or Sukkerarter as we/I call her) is depicted as a crucified humanoid frog with a coffee mug in on and an egg in the other. If the Catholic Church removes this holy religious icon from display then they perpetrate blasphemy. Btw. some of you will live to see the end of days. Every species that has it's gender determined by the temperature of it's surroundings during development has a 39,2% chance of being sucked into the giant mana vortex.
On a serious note. I wouldn't mind if this wasn't displayed. Not because it's offensive, not because it's blasphemeous or should be banned. I simply think it's an awful sculpture. Looks like something you would get in a cereal box.
Posted by: Longtime Lurker | August 28, 2008 8:30 PM
Do you think this would make Ratzi upset?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0JrzF8l2Vg
Maybe just a little?
Posted by: 386sx | August 28, 2008 8:31 PM
Does anybody know what the symbolic meaning of the beer mug in one hand and the egg in the other hand might be?
Well, when I think of beer and eggs together, I think of... flowers! Not!
Posted by: echidna | August 28, 2008 8:32 PM
Calling the frog Kermit is U.S. projection that an anthropomorphic frog is Kermit, a mouse is Mickey, and so on, as if the U.S. culture is the only one that exists. This is considered quite offensive in some circles (particularly where they are/were occupied by U.S. soldiers).
The frog is not Kermit. The artist says it's a self-portrait.
Posted by: Stephen Moore | August 28, 2008 8:32 PM
A Blasphemy, ay? Well, the Vatican has a very effective means of combating that. It's called Congregatio pro Doctrina Fidei. Let them charge the artist with Blasphemy and have him excommunicated. He's dead? Oh, well, then charge the museum curators with Blasphemy and have them excommunicated. Though excommunication doesn't quite have the same force it used to now that they can't add burning at the stake to the punishment. And those pesky curators probably wouldn't give a rat's arse about excommunication any way. Probably wear it as a badge of honour, the heathens!
What a weak and impotent organistaion the Vatican is that all it can do is issue a letter of support for those who decry this 'blasphemy'. Poor Catholics. The world just ain't what it used to be.
Posted by: rickflick | August 28, 2008 8:33 PM
What? Not high art?
Why, Its neo-realism, warts and all. I want to see this auctioned at Sotheby's in a few years along with Piss Christ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
Value, or lack thereof, is in the bulging eye of the behold-er.
Posted by: JStein | August 28, 2008 8:33 PM
This is awesome! Seriously, the Pope is the most irritable person in the world.
That man needs a nap.
Maybe it's from people making fun of his hat all the time.
Posted by: Tyro REx | August 28, 2008 8:42 PM
It's a standard-issue Roman execution for slaves and non-Roman citizens. For all the Catholic Church could know, it's Spartacus.
No ... wait ... *I'm* Spartacus.
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | August 28, 2008 8:44 PM
I am offended on three levels (on first count):
1) That they actually piss and moan about their perceived offense.
2) That they actually insist that they not be subject to offense is paramount.
3) That my hideous offense of 1) and 2) is not worthy of respect.
How dare they?
Posted by: Magnus | August 28, 2008 8:48 PM
Aren't all depictions of Jesus graven images anyway? Or are they 50% GI since Jesus was half human? Or are they 33,3% graven images because God is a trinity?
How do Christians know that this isn't how Jesus looked anyway? We have no way of knowing the phenotypes of God's DNA.
Posted by: Rey Fox | August 28, 2008 8:48 PM
The poor dears really do want universal deference, but these days few of them have the stomach to actually kill blasphemers. So all they can do is stew and pout. Pretty sad, although by "sad", I mean "funny".
Posted by: nanoAl | August 28, 2008 8:48 PM
When I was a kid in Catholic school I thought Jesus was the only person to be crucified. It made him special. maybe these kooks all are suffering from similar delusion. We should pretend to freak out about the letter 'A' in some churchy thing to make a point.
Posted by: Holbach | August 28, 2008 8:49 PM
Heck, the effect would be even more noted if instead of the egg, "the" cracker was nailed into his hand! Man that would piss the papists off to no end! Screw them! Let's have more of this sacriligous crap to show the religionists that they are indeed as crazy as they appear!
Posted by: Charlie Foxtrot | August 28, 2008 8:53 PM
Bah! Crucifiction's a doddle!
Gets you out in the sun, fresh air...
Posted by: VegeBrain | August 28, 2008 8:56 PM
What the Italians should do is send a letter to the saying in essence "you're right, we'll take it down", and then replace the frog with with a Pope Benedict figurine.
Posted by: BobC | August 28, 2008 8:56 PM
The Roman Catholic Church was on page one of today's Thursday 8/28/2008 Wall Street Journal: Galileo Still Sends Church Spinning As Statue at the Vatican Is Considered
Atila Sinke Guimarães, a conservative Catholic writer, dismisses the church's mistreatment of Galileo as a "black legend." The scientist, he says, got what he deserved. "The Inquisition was very moderate with him. He wasn't tortured."
Isn't that amazing? Galileo had the nerve to claim the earth circles the Sun and 375 years later some Catholics say he was lucky he wasn't tortured. I bet he would have been tortured if he didn't say this:
Having been admonished by this Holy Office [the Inquisition] entirely to abandon the false opinion that the Sun was the center of the universe and immovable, and that the Earth was not the center of the same and that it moved... I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic Church.
[Galileo Galilei, Recantation, 22 June 1633]
Posted by: extatyzoma | August 28, 2008 8:57 PM
so they are saying that jesus was french?
Posted by: Bride of Shrek OM | August 28, 2008 8:58 PM
He also did a red version of this where the froggie had two eggs where his meat-and-two-vege should be. I don't have a clue what the frack that means but it adds a certain, je ne sais quoi , don't you think?
Posted by: Mobius | August 28, 2008 8:59 PM
Religious sensibilities have been wounded??? I am shocked. Shocked I say. [/sarcasm]
Posted by: AV | August 28, 2008 9:02 PM
Pahl, whose province is heavily Catholic, was so outraged by the sculpture of the pop-eyed amphibian that he went on a hunger strike to demand its removal and had to be taken to hospital during the summer.
Sucks to be Pahl!
(P.S. Why are there so many songs about rainbows?)
Posted by: CrypticLife | August 28, 2008 9:04 PM
Oh, I love the Catholic church. They always say the silliest things!
Posted by: extatyzoma | August 28, 2008 9:04 PM
i wonder if the pope would have took offence had that been say a monkey up there.
I seem to remember a truly horrendous bit of footage on national geographic or somewhere where some barbaric local custom (im think it was an east asian forest region with lots of christ-inanity in the mix. anyway the villagers had a monkey crucified on a cross and it was being carried round the village as a scape goat for sins, if anything showed me the horrors of religion that truly did.
religion:rub it in twice a day to numb the mind.
Posted by: sparkomatic | August 28, 2008 9:06 PM
Seriously, I need someone to explain to me how having your kid nailed to a tree is a symbol of love. This god guy has some real issues.
Secondly, lots of people were crucified before and after Christ supposedly was, its not exactly an exclusive club. Does this mean Christians have an exclusive on the whole crucifixion(TM) thing now?
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:07 PM
the froggie had two eggs where his meat-and-two-vege should be.
should be?
I don't recall that amphibians should even have external genitalia to begin with.
perhaps it was a specimen of Rana anthropomorphensis?
;)
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:11 PM
*whispers*
"oh yeah, that's a good one.."
"WELEASE FWOGGY!!"
*titters*
Posted by: Charlie Foxtrot | August 28, 2008 9:13 PM
Yes! Welease Fwoggy!
He's a WOBBER!
Posted by: Tom | August 28, 2008 9:15 PM
so they are saying that jesus was french?
If the frog was supposed to be French then it would have no legs. Don't these people realize that opening their mouths about this and going on hunger strikes is just going to get this silly thing displayed around the world? What are the odds we would have ever heard of this if there had been no protests?
Posted by: mayhempix | August 28, 2008 9:18 PM
The "Piss Christ" is a very stunning beautiful piece.
It employs the classic modern art technique of negation producing a paradox between the materials and the illusion of beauty created by the golden light filtered through the urine. To appreciate it the brain must stop trying to classify it into known categories and accept it what for what it is on its own terms. This is something that ossified literal xian brains just can't comprehend.
Posted by: Mike G (aka Penfold) | August 28, 2008 9:19 PM
It is rather odd that the Roman Catholic Church would be offended by someone mocking a form of execution. Not only that, but this case really illustrates the hypocrisy of the church given its stance on capital punishment.
Posted by: efrique | August 28, 2008 9:19 PM
Wow, I'd love one of those hanging off my rear-view mirror.
Makes me want to pull out my greenstuff (two-part epoxy resin if it's not too old by now) and some popsicle sticks and try to make a little one.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:24 PM
Well, the beer cup is symbolic of my constant drunkeness. And the egg is because I sure do love me green eggs and ham.
I've been to a few bars that serve pickled eggs...
I also have been pickled myself at a few bars...
come to think of it, that frog kinda looks like a pickle...
Posted by: Cuttlefish, OM | August 28, 2008 9:24 PM
Why are there so many threads about Catholics
And who's on the other side?
Catholics have rosaries, and Catholics have Mary,
And crackers with Jesus inside--
So they've been told, and some choose to believe it
Like some sort of devious plan
Someday we'll find it--the Jesus connection
The subhuman atheists and man...
Who said that Jesus lives inside of each biscuit--
Who'd say a thing that bizarre?
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
And look what it's done so far--
What's so religious it makes us litigious?
And what do we think we should ban?
Someday we'll find it--the Jesus connection--
The inhuman atheists and man....
...All of them under its spell
We know it's deplorably tragic...
Have you been half asleep? And have you heard voices?
And what do they tell you to do?
Is this religious? Or is it psychotic?
And how do you tell 'twixt the two?
I've heard it too many times to ignore it
I'm sorry the whole thing began...
Someday we'll find it--the Jesus connection--
Those atheist bastards and man...
Posted by: Charlie Foxtrot | August 28, 2008 9:27 PM
@Cuttlefish
*STANDING OVATION!*
encore! encore!
Posted by: Holbach | August 28, 2008 9:31 PM
Mobius @ 60
With a further nod to "Casablanca": "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here". "Your winnings sir; thank you very much!"
Posted by: El Herring | August 28, 2008 9:32 PM
Well, my two pence worth:
If it doesn't offend someone somewhere, it isn't art.
Posted by: Anon | August 28, 2008 9:36 PM
@mayhempix #69--
Agreed, 100%, and I am shocked that this is the first time I have heard it said. I think it is an incredibly beautiful piece (and I am an atheist), and that juxtaposition is what makes it great art.
I felt, oddly , the same way looking at the beautiful french curves of white on blue of the Challenger disaster. It was horrible, but beautiful. Art like perhaps only The Joker would make.
Posted by: Holbach | August 28, 2008 9:37 PM
"He went on a hunger strike to demand its removal and had to be taken to hospital." Ha, the moron! And when he had regained partial strength from hunger what did he ask for? Why, frog legs, of course! The moron.
Posted by: MrQhuest | August 28, 2008 9:38 PM
#57
E pur si muove.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:39 PM
Who is the patron saint of water boarding?
I picture a smiling Dick Cheney statue, eagerly re-educating some rabble-rouser...
Posted by: Kel | August 28, 2008 9:41 PM
Before there was the pencil trick, there was the nail trick.Posted by: Glen | August 28, 2008 9:42 PM
Jesus Frog! I knew him (kinda).
I was a senior in high school, in Columbus, Ohio, in 1968-69. Seniors in biology class transplanted the heart of one frog to another. It lived for about six minutes.
Letter-writers to the local fish-wrapper went wild! "How dare they...?" was the basic message. The fact that 17- and 18-year-olds, with only the equipment available in a high-school biology class was, of course, lost altogether.
A classmate (name, sadly forgotten), did a wonderful charcoal sketch of a frog nailed on a cross, with a cut on its side. The style was spot-on realistic, against a "dark and stormy" background. It hung on a classroom wall for the rest of the year. I would be proud to own it today.
Sadly, the frothers' frothings have not changed overly much. Just the means of spreading the spews....
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:44 PM
Letter-writers to the local fish-wrapper went wild! "How dare they...?"
You're joking, right?
;)
Posted by: sparkomatic | August 28, 2008 9:45 PM
Cuttlefish
It is so rare to hear to witness such a pertinent muppet reference...nice
Posted by: Patricia | August 28, 2008 9:46 PM
If they think the fwoggey is awful, what would they do if someone displayed a nine or ten story homosexual jebus on the side of a building somewhere, complete with scripture? Or Lilith giving the finger to Adam?
Crucifixion is love - that is so stupid it hurts.
Posted by: sparkomatic | August 28, 2008 9:49 PM
oops bad editing...should read bear witness...late night too much coffee...
Posted by: Glen | August 28, 2008 9:51 PM
Ichthyic,
Sadly, I'm not kidding. I forced myself to read days' worth of their letters. (Another step toward atheism?)
I've often wondered how many of those frothers' lives were saved by some of those students, or the students' students?
Answer: None. "God saved me...!"
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | August 28, 2008 9:51 PM
Either Cuttlefish has a backlog of poems he can throw at a moments notice, or he is truly gifted. I prefer the latter explanation. My day is now complete, and time to start contemplating sleep.
Posted by: decrepitoldfool | August 28, 2008 9:53 PM
Cuttlefish, you... hell, you're fantastic.
The frog world could certainly use a savior. Bunch of hairless apes turning their habitats into polluted deserts.
Posted by: Epistaxis | August 28, 2008 9:53 PM
This guy didn't even take the crucifix out of a church; no one's rights have been violated, until he's censored.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:55 PM
Sadly, I'm not kidding.
Yes, I know.
Just playing on the thread title.
I've often wondered how many of those frothers' lives were saved by some of those students, or the students' students?
well, if they had that many problems with high school dissections and experiments in transplantation...
I'd say they would have had to drive out of town, at least, for transplant surgery.
no self-respecting medical student that grew up there would have been likely to stay.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 9:57 PM
Lilith giving the finger to Adam
I wants it!
have you actually seen something like that?
Posted by: Doug | August 28, 2008 10:05 PM
The sticks in the picture resemble a secular mormon death symbol to me.
However, even if the sticks were intended to represent an ancient torture device, clearly, the frog doesn't represent the mythical jesus christ due to the absence of the god loving thorny crown.
Posted by: Glen | August 28, 2008 10:06 PM
Ichthyic,
I knew that. I played the thread a bit more, too.
no self-respecting medical student that grew up there would have been likely to stay.
I've often joked that I did not leave Columbus in 1971: I escaped. I hope that those students did not succumb to the mores of the time, but left, too.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 10:09 PM
I knew that. I played the thread a bit more, too.
uh...
I knew you knew that!
I hope that those students did not succumb to the mores of the time, but left, too.
ditto.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 10:11 PM
the frog doesn't represent the mythical jesus christ due to the absence of the god loving thorny crown.
but he does have the mythical loin cloth, as was correctly pointed out by BoS(OM).
Posted by: gex | August 28, 2008 10:12 PM
Do they not know that crucifixion was done to people other than Jesus? Or do they think that this method of torture/killing was invented just for this one guy and then never used again? How self centered.
I find that men that grow their hair long and wear beards are sacrilegious...
Posted by: Cuttlefish, OM | August 28, 2008 10:15 PM
@Nerd of Redhead #88...
Williams and Ascher wrote most of it, beautifully... All I did was plagiarize.
But thank you.
DC
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 28, 2008 10:18 PM
How self centered.
think:
projection
It's unbelievably common amongst the religious, exponentially moreso with ("Western") xians.
Posted by: H.H. | August 28, 2008 10:23 PM
Haven't some theologians surmised that aliens species may indeed get their own messiah figures in order to hear the Good Word? Or don't they think Yahweh could do the deed with a Virgin Mary frog?
Posted by: Lowell | August 28, 2008 10:32 PM
Passing 100 comments, and not one in support of censoring the sculpture. What happened to all those concerned Catholics who freaked out during crackergate? Aren't they behind their holy father on this one?