…and this is a 
Poll: you must choose between Jenny and Amanda
Category: Pointless polls
Posted on: September 30, 2008 6:20 PM, by PZ Myers
That is, Jenny McCarthy, ditzy mummy who opposes vaccinations because she thinks they cause autism, and Amanda Peet, smart woman who knows that inoculation is a great benefit. McCarthy has just sniped at Peet:
"(Peet) has a lot of [nerve] to come forward and be on that side, because there is an angry mob on my side, and I like the fact that I can say she's completely wrong. I look at (Peet) now and say to myself, 'That was me before I had autism in my life,' and until she walks in our shoes, she really has no idea."
Oh ho — so Jenny McCarthy's great logical defense of her position is that she fronts an angry mob? Well, two can play that game. Pharynguloid mob, get over there and support science and intelligence in their poll. Amanda is down, 46% to 54%!
Comments
Posted by: TSC | September 30, 2008 6:22 PM
Bad enough she's married to that ex-porn star goof of an overpaid actor husband.
Posted by: panne | September 30, 2008 6:24 PM
There, I did my duty and voted. Also, it must be because it's late and I'm tired, but I read "ditzy mummy" and pictured the other kind of mummy. You know, the scary type :-S
Posted by: TSC | September 30, 2008 6:25 PM
I despise Jim Carey. He's what New Age ecumenical drivel is all about...just listening to him run his mouth about spirituality is enough to cause polyps in one's colon.
Posted by: Pandora Neurospora | September 30, 2008 6:25 PM
"We are not against vaccines..."
Well you could have fooled me.
Posted by: biogeek | September 30, 2008 6:26 PM
50:50 now. Bonus: I like Amanda Peet, and don't reflexively turn the channel if I see her in a movie. This is not true for McCarthy, even before she admitted being an ignoramus with her belief that her son's condition is due to vaccination. Nice to know Amanda Peet is smart too.
Posted by: James F | September 30, 2008 6:27 PM
Done, and not just because I've had a crush on Ms. Peet since She's the One.
Posted by: rob | September 30, 2008 6:28 PM
Amanda Peet (68%)
Jenny McCarthy (32%)
Total Votes: 105
another worthless, un-scientific poll appears to be heading towards the side with evidence to back it up.
Posted by: andyo | September 30, 2008 6:32 PM
Yeah, calling for boycott of the sensible, nice and pretty lady's movies. Dickheads. I don't see anyone boycotting McCarthy's mov... er, let's use Carrey instead. I don't see anyone on the sensible side trying to boycott Carrey. No need when you're right and can back it up.
Posted by: Longtime Lurker | September 30, 2008 6:32 PM
Funny, someone who elected to get a boob-job is speaking out against vaccines.
Posted by: DavefromMN | September 30, 2008 6:32 PM
Amanda's up to 80%...
Posted by: Ric | September 30, 2008 6:33 PM
We have fucking crushed that poll.
Posted by: Realist Golfer | September 30, 2008 6:34 PM
Impressive....Peet now WAY up....
Posted by: Bob L | September 30, 2008 6:34 PM
Mob rule rears its ugly head on the internets.
Amanda 83%
Jenny 17%
204
Looks like our mob of goons can shoat loader than their mob of goons.
Posted by: AndrewN | September 30, 2008 6:35 PM
Voted 88:12 now.
I have no idea who Jenny McCarthy is, but I would vote for anybody as pretty as Amanda :)
Posted by: WRMartin | September 30, 2008 6:35 PM
Tried to vote (first and only time, honest) and it said I had already voted. That and the occasional "you already commented" messages I get from here is starting to make me suspicious there is someone else in the building where I work reading, commenting, and obeying PZ and getting us confused because all our 'net traffic goes through the same proxy. Oh noes!!1! I'm associated with evil atheists more than I thought. Or maybe not, please don't let it be Pete Rooke. Please. Oh I feel faint - I may need to say a little prayer. Brb...
Posted by: themadlolscientist, FCD | September 30, 2008 6:37 PM
Amanda Peet (86%)
Jenny McCarthy (14%)
Total Votes: 252
Our angry mob can beat up their angry mob. So there. Neener neener.
Posted by: Ian H Spedding FCD | September 30, 2008 6:39 PM
Never mind vaccines, is Jenny McCarthy yet another data-point for the case that being blonde has a detrimental effect on intelligence.
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 6:40 PM
Amanda Peet wins because she is way better looking than that hag McCarthy, but also because she's on the money. Who'd have thunk you could have looks and brains? :P
Posted by: Jared | September 30, 2008 6:41 PM
I'm curious, what is the mechanism these
wackjobscraziesnutcasesadvocacy groupswackjobs think vaccines are causing autism by?http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15858952
Holy shit, it's not vaccines!
Not to mention, the "cause" they like to point to thiomersal, even though it's not used in childhood vaccines anymore.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18172138
Fucking retards.
Posted by: Brownian, OM | September 30, 2008 6:42 PM
No PZ, McCarthy's argument boils down to "I have a son with autism and you don't, so I can say whatever I want and you're just a big meanie who doesn't understand what it's like, boo-hoo-hoo-you're a horrible person-boo-hoo-hoo!"
To Jenny: let's talk about a real public health crisis. Unlike the vaccine-autism non-link, shameless appeals to emotion and claims that only members of the in-group truly 'get it' have been demonstrated to cause infectious stupidity time and time again.
Posted by: silencer | September 30, 2008 6:43 PM
Why is it in America, they ignore their own findings?
Johns Hopkins discovered the link decades ago and suggested waiting til children were older before giving them the shots, but you guys just keep on pumping out brain damaged Americans and making fun of anyone who tries to save people.
Thank god your economy is in the shitter, you guys suck.
Posted by: Tony Popple | September 30, 2008 6:44 PM
Pharynguloid mob?
We have become PZ's Flying Monkeys!
Posted by: AJ Milne | September 30, 2008 6:48 PM
Speaking of... The Calgary Herald had a nice, sane editorial today on this sorta thing (more specifically on a certain god-besotted twat's opposition to the Gardasil vaccine program, but with bonus mention of MMR, too).
(And it was 90/10 when I looked in on the McCarthy/Peet thing.)
Posted by: Slinky | September 30, 2008 6:48 PM
Oh noes, i'm not sure I dare disagree with Tanya (even if she is 100% wrong).
Posted by: Holbach | September 30, 2008 6:48 PM
Amanda is ahead of turnip brain McCarthy. Doesn't turnip brain have her god on her side? Who the hell caused her son's autism?
Posted by: mellowjohn | September 30, 2008 6:48 PM
peet way up, and besides - she looks better naked.
(yes, that's a sexist, objectifying statement. deal with it.)
Posted by: The Cheerful Nihilist | September 30, 2008 6:49 PM
You're crashing celebrity polls???
A shoat is a young pig. Mob of goons shoat loadering, indeed.
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | September 30, 2008 6:50 PM
@ silencer #21
Citation, please... or are you just doing the "I know this cuz a friend of a friend of a friend once dun tol' me" thing?
Posted by: Jim | September 30, 2008 6:51 PM
Amanda's characterization of anti-vaccinationists as "parasites" is an apt one, as they benefit from the herd immunity vaccines help confer without contributing to it themselves (or rather, having their children contribute).
Posted by: Jenny McCarthy | September 30, 2008 6:54 PM
Why do Amish kids not have any autism? God? Or the lack of vaccines?
Or maybe just coincidence? Correlation doesnt mean causation.
Posted by: Embiggened Cromulence | September 30, 2008 6:58 PM
Amanda Peet all the way. Brains and looks.
Posted by: Dahan | September 30, 2008 6:58 PM
93% Now behind Amanda. The mob rules.
Stupid polls.
Posted by: Danio | September 30, 2008 7:00 PM
They do have autism, you fucking tool, and they do vaccinate. If you have nothing more than antivax lunatic 'talking points', please do us all a favor and beat your head against an oak wall if the urge to post here again strikes you.Posted by: MartinM | September 30, 2008 7:00 PM
They do. And the Amish do vaccinate, albeit typically at fairly low rates.
Posted by: SC | September 30, 2008 7:01 PM
Orac's post this summer on Jenny McCarthy and her Indigo-Children phase was hilarious:
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/06/your_friday_dose_of_woo_generation_woo.php
Posted by: Nurse Ingrid | September 30, 2008 7:01 PM
OK, I think we Pharyngulites definitely count as a mob. The vote count is now over 600, with Peet leading McCarthy 93% to 7%. We RAWK.
A very close and dear member of my family has gotten caught up in this anti-vaccine hysteria, and it just makes me sick and sad. I can't stand the way they value emotion over evidence. Scary how the anti-science tropes can come from the left as well as the right...
Posted by: Dahan | September 30, 2008 7:02 PM
Jenny @ 30,
It's a myth that the Amish don't vaccinate. They do. However, it's not a myth that they have much lower rates of Autism.
Next.
Posted by: aiabx | September 30, 2008 7:03 PM
94/6. We hear and obey.
Posted by: Thomas D. Taylor | September 30, 2008 7:04 PM
People who want to learn more about autism can listen to free audio podcasts entitled "Autism and Vaccines: Parts I & II" put out by Midnight In Chicago at www.mic.mypodcast.com
Posted by: Jadehawk | September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
"Why do Amish kids not have any autism? God? Or the lack of vaccines?
Or maybe just coincidence? Correlation doesnt mean causation."
bwahahahahaa, awesome. because the Amish are such a great control group for vaccines; or any other the other thousands of things they do differently than the average American.
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | September 30, 2008 7:05 PM
#30
Whether you are Jenny McCarthy or not, your statement is equally both frightening and ignorant.
First, the Amish DO vaccinate, and second, Amish children DO have autism... just not at the rates one would expect given the same number of population, statistically.
Please do some, you know, actual research before spouting such ignorance. Start here for this particular false claim:
http://autism.about.com/b/2008/04/23/do-the-amish-vaccinate-indeed-they-do-and-their-autism-rates-may-be-lower.htm
Posted by: Blake Stacey | September 30, 2008 7:07 PM
Oh jebus, the mercury militia has arrived. Now all we need are the 9/11 twoofers and the Dilbert fans.
Posted by: Thomas | September 30, 2008 7:07 PM
Hmmm, I've had autism in my life. My younger brother is badly autistic, to the point that he will never be able to live on his own or really care for himself.
He was vaccinated later than most children and, in fact, manifested symptoms of autism long before he ever got a shot in the arm.
Posted by: name that tune | September 30, 2008 7:08 PM
95/5
Posted by: Mithrandir | September 30, 2008 7:09 PM
I'm not sure if you're trying to parody Ms. McCarthy or seriously posing this question, but the answer is: They do. Dan Olmsted didn't look very hard.
http://autism-news-beat.com/?p=29
Posted by: Mike Haubrich, FCD | September 30, 2008 7:12 PM
Jenny's kids better not go to school my with kids. Even though my kids have measles boosters, I don't know what other diseases her kids may be carrying.
It really didn't take long to swing this poll.
Power to the PZ Pod People!
Posted by: Slaughter | September 30, 2008 7:14 PM
Still 95-5 Amanda. Hot and smart beats hot and dumb any day.
Posted by: Patrick | September 30, 2008 7:15 PM
total domination.
Posted by: dogheaven | September 30, 2008 7:17 PM
This is going to give Peet a big head. Oh wait she's a TV star and anatomically I think they all havebig heads! Have you ever seen Robert Redford or David Hyde Peirce. Huge heads for their bodies. Juliette Roberts too.
Posted by: Kobra | September 30, 2008 7:19 PM
Not anymore.Posted by: jt512 | September 30, 2008 7:21 PM
I choose Amanda Peet. I don't even have to know what the question is; I choose Amanda Peet. Now, if I could just get Amanda Peet to choose me...
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | September 30, 2008 7:22 PM
For those who think the ilk are just a bunch of "do as the tentacled overlord says", I viewed PA's post, I clicked the links, I saw stupidity versus intelligence, and voted, as always, on the side of intelligence.
Posted by: Skeptyk | September 30, 2008 7:31 PM
96 to 4 now, favoring Amanda Peet. Online polls are goofy, but it felt nice to click a key for the kiddies.
Posted by: Jparenti | September 30, 2008 7:32 PM
One side may have an angry mob, but the other side has reality.
And, of course, a mob just waiting to prove their point.
96% to 4%. Reality is winning.
Posted by: RobinSV | September 30, 2008 7:34 PM
OK, I voted. After forcing myself not to retch with disgust I voted for "Amanda Pete". Not that I wanted to vote for "Amanda Pete". I'd rather be asked to vote on the validity of evidence based biomedical research. Instead, I'm asked if to decide which side I "believe is right? Jenny McCarthy or Amanda Peet?" As if I should base my "beliefs" on the opinions of two "B" list Hollywood actresses. (Ok, maybe they're "A" list, but what do I know, I'm gay?) Seriously though, when did questions of epidemiology, and the efficacy and ricks of vaccination become something we can (or should) answer with American Idol like "opinion polls"? What's next? An unknowledgeable, incurious, self-proclaimed "hockey mom" being considered by nearly half of the voting population to be a qualified and viable candidate for the second highest (and one pretzel choke away from the highest) office in the land for no other reason than "she a lot like me"?
Dear god. If I wasn't already an expat i'd emigrate.
Posted by: fatherdaddy | September 30, 2008 7:35 PM
I used to say "I want to want to fuck Jenny McCarthy!". Now, I say "Fuck Jenny McCarthy!"
96/4 at last count
Posted by: JoshS | September 30, 2008 7:42 PM
Peet, 97-3. Oh yeah. It's my birfday.
Posted by: PaulG | September 30, 2008 7:42 PM
AP: 97% JM:3% You have an awesome power P. Z. Please use it only for good, never for evil.
Posted by: geru | September 30, 2008 7:43 PM
Wow. You just can't beat that logic:
"I happen to know someone who has condition/disease X, so this makes me an authority in the field of medical science concerning condition/disease X, and everyone else should keep their fucking mouths shut!"
Posted by: Moses | September 30, 2008 7:53 PM
Actually, that's what I did. I tend to ignore American practices when it comes to medicine and look to European practices instead. I do that because our system is to unduly influenced by money and governmental policy corruption.
OTOH, the woman with the Autistic child is just plain wrong. And the whole "vaccines = autism" movement is just plain wrong.
So, in fact, I find fault with most of the industry and its critics.
Lol. Don't worry, we're taking you with us... What our free-market idiots have done has the potential of making the Great Depression look like a cake-walk.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT | September 30, 2008 7:54 PM
Somewhere a slightly grumpy clear box with blinking lights has powered up and is calculating the amount and density of Insolence that will be let loose.
Posted by: Patricia | September 30, 2008 7:54 PM
97% to 3%. That didn't take long.
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 7:55 PM
"I lost my wife in the world trade center attack, so I'm an authority on terrorism"I wonder what evidence McCarthy has that the shot was responsible for autism? I'm betting none at all.
Posted by: Rob the Lurker FCD BMWCCA | September 30, 2008 7:56 PM
Who's Juliette Roberts?
Posted by: wrpd | September 30, 2008 7:58 PM
1. Being gay, I have never seen either of them naked but I voted for Amanda.
2. My older son is autistic, so I've lived in her shoes--not the 4" heels--but I have never had to strike out and blame someone or something for my son's condition.
3. Jim Carrey did porn? Now that is truly disgusting.
Posted by: Your Mighty Overload | September 30, 2008 8:01 PM
Jenny @ 30
Amish kids don't use light bulbs or zippers at anywhere near the same rate either, perhaps the reason is one of them. It can't be due to vaccination, since they DO vaccinate, as has been pointed out many times.
I would hazard a guess that the real reason may be genetic, since they are probably a fairly closely related group.
Posted by: dave | September 30, 2008 8:08 PM
1552 votes, reality winning 97% to 3%
Posted by: Patricia | September 30, 2008 8:09 PM
Danio - Nice shot by the way. ;o)
Posted by: Brad | September 30, 2008 8:11 PM
Yeah, and someday that's going to fail massively. If the non-vax rate rises from say, less than 5% to ten percent or so, that is a nation of thirty million within your borders without immunity to MMR and polio. They are not geographically distinct, but they are an immunologically distinct population overlaid atop the rest of you. Canada's not so bad for antivaccine activism, but stupidity crosses borders.I hope it is mumps or measles rather than polio that hits first; maybe people will smarten up. But they are all bad.
Posted by: Trillian | September 30, 2008 8:13 PM
Fixed.
Amanda 97%
Jenny 3%
Posted by: CalGeorge | September 30, 2008 8:14 PM
O.T., Sarah Pukin' interviewed by Hugh Spew-it.
HH: Do you think the mainstream media and the left understands your religious faith, Governor Palin?
SP: I think that there's a lot of mocking of my personal faith, and my personal faith is very, very simple. I don't belong to any church. I do have a strong belief in God, and I believe that I'm a heck of a lot better off putting my life in God's hands, and saying hey, you know, guide me. What else do we have but guidance that we would seek from a Creator? That's about as simple as it gets with my faith, and I think that there is a lot of mocking of that. And you know, so bet it, though I do have respect for those who have differing views than I do on faith, on religion. I'm not going to mock them, and I would hope that they would kind of I guess give me the same courtesy through this of not mocking a person's faith, but maybe perhaps even trying to understand a little bit of it.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/0c03d39e-df44-41fc-af7d-f2f9a7f56b68
Posted by: pale | September 30, 2008 8:15 PM
So being amicable is out of the picture?
Treat the mob as people with great thirst for knowledge and teach them.
Give them a piecemeal lunch, piece by piece. Ask them small, brief questions on how they define different terms and things.
For instance, make them explain how the increase in number of autistic children is measured? Make them be scientists about it. If they are impatient and unwilling to go through the hoops, be amicable again. Be royal about it.
There is a great chance to win hearts and minds for science but instead people will rather do anything to reinforce the image that scientists are really pricks the people say they are.
Jenny may be an ass but she's an ignorant ass. Being an ass while knowing better is really just a little bit worse.
Posted by: QrazyQat | September 30, 2008 8:18 PM
As Michael Clarke Duncan's character, Frankie Figs, said of Amanda Peet's character (an apsiring hitwoman) in The Whole Nine Yards,"You know, I can't think of nothing finer than a fine naked woman holding a gun."
Posted by: da | September 30, 2008 8:20 PM
Part of the reason for the rise in autism rates is also that it's being diagnosed as such at a higher rate, including border-line cases. That may be a factor in lower rates of Amish autism.
Posted by: Brandonazz | September 30, 2008 8:21 PM
IT HAS BEEN PHARYNGULATED, SIR.
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 8:23 PM
Yes, the mob is going to listen to those who say everything's fine when there are a few alarmist voices out there telling them it's not...Posted by: martykay | September 30, 2008 8:25 PM
Amanda Peet 97%
Jenny McCarthy 3%
Total Votes 1978
Posted by: pale | September 30, 2008 8:30 PM
Kel,
yes, well, I do understand that it is difficult.
What I'm saying is, the negative emotions thrown back is not just bad PR, but reinforces the emotional conviction on the other side that there is really something fishy about the situation.
Be the better one. Not for the sake of being right and better.
Give the others respect even if they will throw it at your face and rather show that you care, but that you can not and will not give up on the principles of science.
Dealing with emotions you must first defuse the situation by engaging the emotions. The facts and science stands on its own.
By ridicule you are being _unscientific_.
Posted by: Justin | September 30, 2008 8:36 PM
Slightly off topic
Posted by: Blake Stacey | September 30, 2008 7:07 PM
Oh jebus, the mercury militia has arrived. Now all we need are the 9/11 twoofers and the Dilbert fans.
WTF is up with Dilbert fans? I've been an avid follower of Pharyngula for a good six to eight months now, and I guess the whole Dilbert thing was before my time.. I keep seeing it referenced and I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Is it just the fans or is Scott Adams a total YEC/jebus freak/you hurt my cracker choad also? If someone could point me to the correct thread/controversy I would greatly appreciate it.
And the poll was completely destroyed by the time I got to it 97/3. Anything else I would say about it would sound utterly sexist, so I'm gonna shut up now.
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 8:38 PM
Dogbert: "I've got something much better - anecdotal evidence"
Dilbert: "Who's going to believe anecdotal evidence?"
Dogbert: "I've narrowed it down to... PEOPLE"
Posted by: Hank | September 30, 2008 8:45 PM
As of two minutes ago:
Amanda - 97%
Jenny - 3%
Reality - WIN
BAW - EPIC FAIL
Poll crashing - priceless
In other unrelated news, EXPELLED (aka Excreted) is soon to be on DVD:
http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/09/29/expelled-redux
Enjoy!
Posted by: AmyD | September 30, 2008 8:55 PM
If Amish have a lower incidence of autism it is likely due to genetics. They are a highly closed society in all ways including genetics. Unfortunately, this means they have a high incidence of some other genetic problems caused by recessive genes.
I am the mother of an autistic boy and gratefully follow vaccine schedules for him.
Posted by: Janine ID AKA The Lone Drinker | September 30, 2008 8:56 PM
Jenny McCarthy leading an angry mob? Oh dear. I am now picturing her in Kenneth Mars' role in Young Frankenstein as Inspector Kemp.
"A riot is an ungly thing... . undt, I tink, that it is chust about time ve had vun."
Posted by: SimonC | September 30, 2008 8:57 PM
Pale @ #78:
These people HAVE been shown the evidence, HAVE been fed it piecemeal and whole, HAVE been treated as people. The problem is that they insist on having something to blame rather than accepting that reality can be harsh and uncaring. Their behaviour is akin to a childish foot-stamping tantrum. Unfortunately their tantrum could affect a whole population in a very real and negative way. Sometimes a metaphorical slap is needed to end the hysteria.
Posted by: Pale | September 30, 2008 9:00 PM
SimonC,
mmh... maybe, you're right. Dunno.
I'd still aim for divide and conquer. Get one (1) person in their midst to convert and you've got that someone who has the mandate to turn the tide.
Posted by: Holbach | September 30, 2008 9:01 PM
Hank @ 81
Oh no, now we'll be inundated with commercials for the DVD of that insane crap. I only wish I could edit a few "Special Features" into the finished pile of shit!
Posted by: Dahan | September 30, 2008 9:05 PM
Justin @ 79,
Here's a place you can at least start.
http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/scott_adams_is_a_wally/P25/
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 9:07 PM
Oh man did I pick the wrong time to quote Dilbert to make a point :P
Posted by: woodstein312 | September 30, 2008 9:13 PM
"Why do Amish kids not have any autism? God? Or the lack of vaccines?
Or maybe just coincidence? Correlation doesnt mean causation."
Jenny, look, I grew up in Lancaster, PA, the historic home of the Amish (No, I'm not Amish). My first job was working on an Amish farm and my family has lots of Amish friends and aquantances.
So take it from me when I saw that autism, downs syndrome, retardation and a host mental and physical ailments plauge the Amish society. Spend a day at the S. June Smith Center in Lancaster -- a facility that assists children with mental and physical handicaps, many of them Amish children -- and you'll see it for yourself. In fact, I encourage you to do that. The center does wonderful work and could use the exposure that a visit from a celebrity like yourself could bring.
Your assertion that the Amish don't suffer from autism is patently wrong.
The truth is that there are only a handful of original Amish families and -- save for a few that left the sect entirely --- they only marry within the Amish community.
This means that in-breeding since the 1700s and the resulting genetic complications that come with it are commonplace in Amish society.
I don't fault you for wanting to assign blame for the cause of your child's autism. After all, that is a very natural, human reaction. But people in emotional circumstances are often willing to be led down the primrose path of pseudo-science if it makes them feel better. I'm sorry to say this, but you're just wrong on this count. Doesn't mean you're dumb, just ill-informed.
Posted by: BMcP | September 30, 2008 9:14 PM
Angry counter online mob powers activate! Form of a Poll Crasher!
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | September 30, 2008 9:29 PM
Ian H Spedding FCD @ # 17: Never mind vaccines, is Jenny McCarthy yet another data-point for the case that being blonde has a detrimental effect on intelligence.
Dude! Blonde jokes are, like, so pre-Palin.
Posted by: ABR. | September 30, 2008 9:30 PM
I just checked in on the poll on the Ecorazzi website and saw this:
[Update: Welcome Scienceblogs readers! Your poll mobbing is indeed impressive.]
Posted by: Blake Stacey | September 30, 2008 9:36 PM
Not nearly as impressive as our evidence.
(Oh, and about the mocking of the Dilbert fans, I think this thread from January 2007 rather cemented the impression in the Pharynguloid consciousness.)
Posted by: swangeese | September 30, 2008 9:40 PM
Now this is one poll I'm all too happy to crash.
I'm an Aspie and I cannot stand the pity and fear mongers disguised as 'Autism Advocates'.
Posted by: Kel | September 30, 2008 9:41 PM
Win!I wonder if this is a good thing or bad. It does show very anedcotally (they like that stuff right?) that science is on the side of the sensible one.
Posted by: David | September 30, 2008 9:48 PM
[Update: Welcome Scienceblogs readers! Your poll mobbing is indeed impressive.]
PZ you need to start putting 'nofollow' on the links.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | September 30, 2008 9:48 PM
Hank @ # 81: EXPELLED (aka Excreted) is soon to be on DVD...
They must have finalized the box before Ebert offered them his recent quotemine.
The packaging (in the promo from the American Family Ass'n™, which by blessed coincidence sells said DVD) shows the traditional plug on the cover:
It's credited to (well, who else?) ... Ben Stein.
Posted by: craig | September 30, 2008 9:50 PM
I couldn't vote. I really am torn, I don't know what to think about the vaccine/autism debate. I'm waiting to see what Winona Ryder has to say about it before I decide. I trust Winona, she's gorgeouser than the other two.
Posted by: «bønez_brigade» | September 30, 2008 9:51 PM
Voted.
Amanda Peet (97%)
Jenny McCarthy (3%)
Total Votes: 2,830
Posted by: gsb | September 30, 2008 9:52 PM
'That was me before I had autism in my life,' and until she walks in our shoes, she really has no idea."
Well dang, I've had friends and family with cancer. I guess that makes me an oncologist now.
Posted by: CalGeorge | September 30, 2008 10:12 PM
O.T., Sarah Palin says being gay is a choice:
"I have one of my absolute best