Palineurism
Category: Politics
Posted on: October 27, 2008 2:08 PM, by PZ Myers
The Anchorage Daily News has just endorsed…Barack Obama for president. Say, wasn't there a favorite daughter of the fine state of Alaska on that ticket?
Bora has several videos of some fruit fly researchers defending their work. Of course, if you really want to get into the details, here's the progress report of the very same specific research project that Caribou Barbie dissed.
Walker A Jones
EUROPEAN BIOLOGICAL CONTROL RESEARCH
Director
CS90013 MONTFERRIER SUR LEZ
34988 ST. GELY DU FESC CEDEX
MONTPELLIER,Research Project: DISCOVERY, BIOLOGY AND ECOLOGY OF NATURAL ENEMIES OF INSECT PESTS OF CROPS, URBAN AND NATURAL AREAS 2007 Annual Report
1a.Objectives (from AD-416) Explore for natural enemies (pathogens, parasites and predators) in the native range of insect pests identified as high priority targets by the ARS National Program Staff. Identify, colonize and evaluate the most promising natural enemies and ship to U.S. cooperators. Results of laboratory and field studies will be used to improve the ability to predict key factors for application to future programs. Key target pests include the Asian longhorned beetle(Anoplophora glabripennis), emerald ash borer (Agrilus planipennis), wheat stem sawfly (Cephus cinctus), olive fly (Bactrocera oleae), Formosan subterranean termite (Coptotermes formosanus), and plant bugs (several species).
NP304, Component V: Pest Control Technologies. A key natural enemy of the olive fruit fly in Africa is discovered and shipped to California. The olive fruit fly threatens olive production in California. Long known in the Old World, it invaded California without its co-evolved natural enemies. Among several parasitic wasps discovered from Eurasia and Africa, one from Kenya, and southern Africa was showed to be specific to olive fruit fly. Extensive collections in Kenya, South Africa and Namibia yielded several thousand olive fruit flies which were shipped to the ARS laboratory in France for processing. Seventeen shipments containing over 13,000 parasitic wasps (Psyttalia lounsburyi) were subsequently shipped to California for evaluation and release. If successfully established, it is highly likely that pesticide use and associated costs will be substantially reduced. This activity was accomplished in cooperation with USDA-APHIS, the California Department of Food and Agriculture, and the University of California, Berkeley.
But of course the Republican party opposes that project. It's one that actually worked.






Comments
Posted by: s | October 27, 2008 2:13 PM
color me unsurprised. even if everything else were equal, a lot of us Alaskans are less than happy with our governor right now
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 27, 2008 2:16 PM
My grandfather was an entomologist at NCSU that specialized in ecological pest management. I can only imagine how infuriated he would be right now at Palin's comments and the people defending them. Pest management is of utmost importance for our nations agriculture. If we have to study a pest (fruit fly) that is causing harm to US crops, you'd think that the "Homeland Security" wanking folks would understand the importance be it France, China, Iran or Alabama.
The stupidity and hypocrisy of it astounds me.
Posted by: Dutch Delight | October 27, 2008 2:19 PM
I hope I get to book her after she looses, imagine the crowds she'll attract in Europe!
Posted by: Alex | October 27, 2008 2:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that there's only a couple of things that her mouth is good for. Speech is not one of them.
Posted by: skyotter | October 27, 2008 2:25 PM
hmm, did i speak too soon? i can't find mention of the endorsement on the Anchorage Daily News site anywhere ...
www.adn.com
maybe it's tomorrow's edition or something?
Posted by: Mike the Englishman | October 27, 2008 2:30 PM
The latest round of ineptitude has got my wife wondering if McCain & Palin are actually trying to throw the election somehow so the Reps can cast Obama in the role of Hoover II; I admit that it sounds far-fetched, but somehow, it's better than thinking that they actually believe they're running a credible campaign...Posted by: Karey | October 27, 2008 2:31 PM
She's the one who wanted to blather about funding projects that benefit the public good more than ones that benefit it less. I'm sorry to say that autistic individuals aren't as big a deal as the whole of our agricultural economy, so she loses by virtue of her own reasoning.
Posted by: GunOfSod | October 27, 2008 2:32 PM
Sarah Palin's new waredrobe: $150,000.00
Cost of research project: $211,000.00
Personally I would be happier seeing Sarah with another new set of shoes than waste money of this biosecuritathingymajig.
Posted by: Glen Davidson | October 27, 2008 2:33 PM
Yeah, but fruit fly research contradicts creation, so it's ipso facto contradictory to Truth®.
There's no equality supporting evolution just because the research works, and ID research doesn't.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: Glen Davidson | October 27, 2008 2:35 PM
#9 Corrected:
Yeah, but fruit fly research contradicts creation, so it's ipso facto contradictory to Truth®.
There's no equality in supporting evolution just because the research works, and ID research doesn't.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: S.Scott | October 27, 2008 2:36 PM
@ #5 - http://car54.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/hahahahaha/
Posted by: Amber Culbertson-Faegre | October 27, 2008 2:39 PM
What conservatives don't seem to get is that the issue isn't JUST the fruit fly research. It is her abysmal approach to scientific research in general. This is just the epitome of that theist disdain for the search for truth.
They want to play it off like she was commenting on earmarks, when it was obvious she was writing off the funding of science completely.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 27, 2008 2:40 PM
Yep. Hence the fruit fly / planetarium uproar.
Posted by: Alex | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM
[Palin voice]
Who wants to study fruit flies anywaze but those weirdo scientists?! They're small, icky little pests that spread germs....the flies I mean! *wink* Can't these guys come up with anything better ta do? As vice president I'll put a stop to these kinds of wasteful spendings. You betcha!
{/Palin voice]
Posted by: Quiet Desperation | October 27, 2008 2:42 PM
http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html
Posted by: E.V. | October 27, 2008 2:46 PM
I have a friend who is very bright bordering on brilliant but she just loves Palin. It has seriously put a damper on our friendship, though I've tolerated her politically conservative ways in the past (as she has tolerated my liberal bent).
My bad though, I accept the blame. I cannot respect anyone with a modicum of intelligence who can't see the Vice Presidential hopeful as the mediocre, clueless, overly ambitious neocon wingnut she is. I'm expecting all hell to break loose next Wednesday, no matter who wins.
Posted by: SimonG | October 27, 2008 2:58 PM
It's sound-bite politics. Neither Palin, nor to a lesser extent McCain are interested in making substantive statements and defending their policies - such as they are. They're just hoping that people will hear their provocative statements and not look any deeper.
Posted by: phlebas | October 27, 2008 3:07 PM
I don't know... It looks like the Anchorage paper is not so much anti-Palin as anti-McCain. This is the most damning thing the ADN says about her:
"Yet despite her formidable gifts, few who have worked closely with the governor would argue she is truly ready to assume command of the most important, powerful nation on earth."
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567867.html
Posted by: scooter | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM
The Houston Chronicle has also endorsed Obama. The Chron is the only daily in Houston, a mostly conservative Hearst rag.
My brane fell out when I heard this last night.
So America's Oil Business Capitol has rejected drill baby.
Perhaps they don't want to pay the gouging prices to pump in the socialist state of Alaska, Venezuela is still a better deal.
Posted by: frog | October 27, 2008 3:18 PM
scooter: My brane fell out when I heard this last night.
What dimensionality was it falling through?
I've been noticing all kinds of n-dimensional branes flying through me this election cycle.
Posted by: scooter | October 27, 2008 3:23 PM
I felt sorry for McPain, so I photoshopped a campaign poster image for him and sent it to them last night. Couldn't think of a caption, but his staff will come up with something like 'Still better than Socialism', or something.
I put the image at the top of my website. http://acksisoefevil.org
Posted by: Greg R. | October 27, 2008 3:24 PM
Yes, but that project benefits California, and everyone knows that California isn't Real America.Posted by: Your Name's Not Bruce? | October 27, 2008 3:24 PM
Hey, if (when?) McCain & Palin lose, will she have to give back the fancy clothes, or will she get to keep them as a parting gift?
Posted by: scooter | October 27, 2008 3:25 PM
oops typo:
McCain Campaign photo: http://acksisofevil.org
Posted by: CJ | October 27, 2008 3:28 PM
Big deal. Everyone knows Anchorage isn't the real Alaska.
Posted by: MH | October 27, 2008 3:33 PM
Wikipedia's list of endorsements for Obama is very impressive. McCain's, less so.
Posted by: Tom L | October 27, 2008 3:40 PM
Republicans only support pest control that requires regular application of petrochemicals. Here these damned scientists are trying to make Nature take care of it! Where's the profit in that?
Posted by: Rey Fox | October 27, 2008 3:41 PM
"They want to play it off like she was commenting on earmarks, when it was obvious she was writing off the funding of science completely."
They're mad because we broke their code. We developed the technology to detect their high-frequency signals (i.e., dog whistles).
"I've been noticing all kinds of n-dimensional branes flying through me this election cycle."
Does it tickle?
Posted by: chuckgeocke | October 27, 2008 3:42 PM
I consider the research into natural pest predators about the only realistic and useful way to un-fuck-up the problems caused by importation of pest species. Careful research is needed, so more problems are not created. International trade and travel is likely to cause more and more of this kind of thing, so the problem is going to get worst, not better in the future. More work for biologists, yeah!
Posted by: Rey Fox | October 27, 2008 3:45 PM
"Big deal. Everyone knows Anchorage isn't the real Alaska."
Everyone knows that the parts of America where a lot of Americans live aren't Real America.
Posted by: CW | October 27, 2008 4:02 PM
Alex, is that kind of misogynistic shit really necessary?Posted by: Eriv Atkinson | October 27, 2008 4:14 PM
More reason to vote for Obama:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31711_Another_Biden_Meltdown_Another_TV_Station_Banned
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31702_Obama_on_the_Redistribution_of_Wealth
Posted by: howard hersheyh | October 27, 2008 4:14 PM
I also think it worth noting that Montpelier is not Paris. It is on the Mediterranean coast of France. That is some distance from Paris. Apparently geography (as well as science) is also not one of Palin's speech writer's strong points (nor her strength either; she obviously did not catch it because the only foreign country she knows is the one she sees from her window). It is clear, however, where the speech writer picked out this example: the group 'Citizens Against Government Waste', who gave it the "French Kiss Off" award last year.
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2008/04/09/news/local/doc47fc6ca1ad0ee555305173.txt
Posted by: Alex | October 27, 2008 4:18 PM
Why CW, whatever do you mean? I think I made my point without resorting to any "misogynistic shit" by simply asserting that speech is not her strong point. Apparently your imagination ushered in the misogynist implications of what a woman's mouth is used for.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 4:21 PM
HAHAHA.
LGF!! Really?
What a bloviating fool. Gonna send us to the Corner or Town Hall next?
Dumbass.
That reporter is just begging to be hired by Fox News. And her husband is a republican media consultant. Nice try douche bag.
I guess you forgot that McCain threw Klein off his plane.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 4:30 PM
Steve;
When you libs can't refute an argument or a fact, you attack the source. And resort to name calling.
Typical Democrat Behavior.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 4:34 PM
I've seen the interview. I think they should shut out that station. Not for doing journalism, they were doing the GOP's job of putting forth bullshit arguments.
And McCain has no problem redistributing the wealth UPWARDS. Gee a tax cut to 95% of the population is redistribution? Yup. As it should be.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 4:36 PM
Try pointing to REAL news sites rather than the wingnut cesspool...
I actually already read the same stories on talkingpointsmemo.com earlier in the day.
Posted by: Greg R. | October 27, 2008 4:40 PM
And Paris is not Real France.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 4:40 PM
They were doing what journalist are supposed to do,ask tough questions. Most in the news media have done more research on joe the plummber, in the last two weeks that they did on Obama in the last two years.
Wonder why?
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 4:46 PM
I would have supposed you would have perfered The Daily Kos or the Huffington Post.
I must of missed these stories there.
Posted by: gwangung | October 27, 2008 4:57 PM
I have a journalism degree.
Those were NOT tough questions. Those were STUPID questions.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 4:59 PM
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/240313.php
Oh and today the feds foiled a plot by skinheads to assassinate Obama.
I hit about 8 liberal blogs this morning, on of them mentioned McCain's "redistributing" meme. It might not of been TPM.
Posted by: JD | October 27, 2008 5:07 PM
She wasn't acting like a journalist, she was acting like she was auditioning for Faux News. Her bias was so obvious she lost any credibility as a real journalist.
The questions she asked were mostly loaded questions with false presuppositions. Biden should've asked when did her husband, Republican media consultant and party donor, Wade West stop beating her.
Posted by: Nick Gotts | October 27, 2008 5:11 PM
I have a friend who is very bright bordering on brilliant but she just loves Palin. - E.V.
No, sorry, you'll have to rephrase that, at present it looks as though you're saying you know an intelligent admirer of Sarah Palin. Come on, surely even intelligent rightists can see she's about as qualified to be VP as Tom Cruise. Or did you mean Michael Palin? But then, why the but?
Posted by: Alex | October 27, 2008 5:20 PM
"...as qualified to be VP as Tom Cruise"
Nick, I think we should refrain from posting material that might give the loons any bright ideas.
Posted by: Katkinkate | October 27, 2008 5:28 PM
Posted by: Steve_C @ 35 "I guess you forgot that McCain threw Klein off his plane."
Goodness! I hope he waited till it was on the ground.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 5:34 PM
I think they gave him a parachute.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Obama_advisor_pushes_back_on_redistribution.html?showall
The answers the "redistribution" bullshit. He wasn't talking about wealth at all. He was discussing Supreme Court rulings and how they affected the rights of minorities and actually thought the court system isn't the way to achieve a lot of the things that the civil rights movement wanted to achieve.
He was taking a more conservative stance actually.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 5:36 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/27/145024/36/995/643777
Plenty of links here that actually get into the, you know "facts", something that Drudge doesn't bother with.
Posted by: Katkinkate | October 27, 2008 5:41 PM
Steve_C said, "He was taking a more conservative stance actually."
Actually I think the Dems are more conservative than the latest incarnation of the Repubs. The Repubs are now so far out on the right wing they are really quite radical. Obama is much closer to a conservative central position. Not too extreme in either direction.
Posted by: Norman Doering | October 27, 2008 6:06 PM
I've decided to pile on too:
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2008/10/religions-war-on-science-part-2.html
I've also noted that Christopher Hitchens has an article on Slate called: "Sarah Palin's War on Science."
Posted by: James F | October 27, 2008 6:11 PM
I've been as guilty as anyone else of immediately assuming this was Drosophila research (basic research) instead of - by the technical definition - actual fruit fly research (applied research). One of the systems my grad advisor worked in was Drosophila, and we always called them fruit flies, as in "there's another damn fruit fly in the water bath!"
Other bloggers have weighed in on Drosophila vs. real fruit flies.
Posted by: Rey Fox | October 27, 2008 6:15 PM
Hey...I just figured out the title of this post! And I think I have one.
Posted by: Katharine | October 27, 2008 6:27 PM
For the love of FSM, the conservatives are so stupid I can't even fathom how dumb they are. That's saying something.
Crush them. Non-violently, of course, and within the bounds of law, but CRUSH THEM. Financially eviscerate them, cut their falsehood-ridden arguments to the quick, speak up on things the rest of the frigging human race is too afraid to address, call for finer definition of the First Amendment, actively push various creotards out of the public sphere, and insinuate ourselves into EVERYTHING so the gobshites will hit a brick wall of rationality and they will be unable to go any further (and hopefully we will be able to make them shrink into nothing).
I have repeatedly said we are not aggressive enough.
Posted by: Grumpy | October 27, 2008 6:34 PM
The Anchorage Daily News would have endorsed Obama regardless of McCain's running mate.
Posted by: Radwaste | October 27, 2008 6:41 PM
PZ, just in case you hadn't noticed, Gov. Palin is not running for President, so the Anchorage paper couldn't endorse her for the post regardless of qualifications.
Why is this race Obama vs. Palin?
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 6:56 PM
Ask McCain. He's asking himself the same question.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 6:58 PM
More fun with Palin:
http://www.rachellucas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/art-west-hollywood.jpg
Posted by: JD | October 27, 2008 6:59 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Alaska Senator Ted Stevens Found Guilty on All Counts
So we all know Alaskans voted a twit like Palin into office, will they also elect a convicted felon?
Posted by: Nick Gotts | October 27, 2008 7:04 PM
Why is this race Obama vs. Palin? - Radwaste
Because McCain is not only already dead, bits are falling off him and he's beginning to stink.
Posted by: JD | October 27, 2008 7:07 PM
Yes, here it is subtitled: The GOP ticket's appalling contempt for knowledge and learning.
The last paragraph is classic Hitch:
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 7:08 PM
Well it is Halloween. Eric, no one here will blush.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 7:18 PM
Nick;
To answer your question, Yes I do think you are going to be very pissed next week.
I'v been wrong before, but I still think Oboma will blow this election and that the Donks will not pick up 60 seats in the Senatorial races.
Call it wishful thinking or what have you.
Of course you know us rethugs have the election rigged.
It will be close I think.
Riots in the street if Obama loses.
If Obama wins..well there is aways 2010 and 2012.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 7:22 PM
Obama typo.
sorry.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 7:26 PM
Steve...Its a good thing nobody made a similar one of Obama.
I'm sure it would be taken in the same Halloween spirit.
Sure.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 7:28 PM
http://electoral-vote.com/
Eric. There's no way in hell McCain will win.
The GOP will have to steal the election, and I'm sure they'll try.
I don't think we'll pick up 60 senate seats, 58 or 59.
Posted by: Nick Gotts | October 27, 2008 7:30 PM
Of course you know us rethugs have the election rigged. - Eric Atkinson
Well, I know you'll do your best, but unless you've got much more efficient at it, it'll be nowhere near enough. Without significant cheating, Obama will win at least comfortably, and I'd say 60 senate seats for the Dems might be a fair bet at evens.
If Obama wins..well there is aways 2010 and 2012.
True. Probably not if the rethuglicans win though: Ms. Golly Gee Wilikins will have got us all noo-cu-lar-ly raptured before then.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 7:32 PM
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/24/reagan-appointee-and-recent-mccain-adviser-charles-fried-supports-obama.aspx
Not even some McCain advisors are going to vote for him.
Yeah, there's no nasty history of lynching hockey mom's. That's why there's a difference.
Maybe some liberals are a little upset about how Palin rallies were sounding like lynch mobs.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 27, 2008 7:38 PM
Democrats making sure only they steal the election:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122506752884870663.html
Posted by: Steve_C | October 27, 2008 7:59 PM
Hahaha.
Do you want to talk about which has a bigger effect... purging hundreds of thousands of voters or having Mickey Mouse fill a voter registration card that will never get onto the voter rolls?
Acorn isn't committing any voter fraud. We all know the more people that vote the worse the GOP does. That's why they work hard at voter suppression and intimidation.
Posted by: Xenocles | October 27, 2008 8:07 PM
I am shocked - shocked! to hear that a newspaper endorsed a Democrat for an elected office.
Posted by: Graculus | October 27, 2008 8:16 PM
Acorn isn't committing any voter fraud
In fact, iw would be against the law for them not to submit the cards that they suspected were fraudulent.
So, in wingnuttistan "obeying the law" = "breaking the law"
Good to know.
Posted by: Mike | October 27, 2008 10:10 PM
Once upon a time there was a great Republican Party. They had values and issues that they really believed in and so did a lot of Americans. They talked of a balanced budgets, limited foreign adventurism, privacy and rights of all Americans and they really meant it. That party had men in it like Goldwater and Eisenhower. Even when I disagreed with how they wanted to get there, I never had any doubt at all that in their hearts they wanted the best for America just like I did.
That party has been hijacked, pirated away, by neoconservatives, nothing more than ideologues and modern day fascists, and Christian right wing lunatics, begging for a bloody judgement day set off with a nuclear war, with us as its victims. Here's hoping the real Republicans are the ones who can rise from the ashes of this debacle and the rest of us can set about trying to fix the damage to America that the hijackers and parasites have wrought.
It would actually be nice to see a real Republican Party again. They've been gone for at least three decades and I miss them.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 27, 2008 10:12 PM
Yep mike. It's nice when you can at least respect those you oppose.
Posted by: Sauceress | October 28, 2008 12:10 AM
#63 Eric Atkinson
Well then that would be part of Gods plan wouldn't it Sarah? Hello? Sarah??
Posted by: Sauceress | October 28, 2008 12:41 AM
"The Anchorage Daily News has just endorsed...Barack Obama for president"
Oh well, all's not lost...the McCain/Palin ticket still has the endorsements from Al Qaeda and the neo-nazis!
Posted by: Quiet_Desperation | October 28, 2008 1:07 AM
Because McCain is not only already dead, bits are falling off him and he's beginning to stink.
I've always had the impression that he's melting.
Posted by: Nanahuatzin | October 28, 2008 2:21 AM
Palin Shows How to Transcend the Culture Warshttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB122515054936474213.html
I am not shure if this a joke... or if my english is failing me.
Posted by: Arnosium Upinarum | October 28, 2008 4:54 AM
Eric Atkinson #40 says, "Most in the news media have done more research on joe the plummber, [sic] in the last two weeks
that they did on Obama in the last two years. Wonder why."
You're a liar.
Wonder why.
You are so concerned with the facts? Okay, here's a general outline: McCampaign is into the snidest and sleaziest image-engineering ever seen in a national campaign. It's not about the actual issues, it's entirely about appearances, looking good by making the other guy look bad, wherever possible (as in, for example, leaping into the economic crisis to look as if he's really a hand's on kinda guy in order to give everybody the chance to see him fix things as Obama twiddles his thumbs, right?...and promptly put his foot in his big mouth. He didn't even know that his own party had weaseled up an alternative plan to Bush's, and he stormed out of there red-faced and with fists clenched ready to bounce heads. The man is truly a Grade-A Jerk).
We are asked to identify with the likes of Joe the Plumber, Joe Six-Pack, and hockey moms. They're a cheezy image of "REAL Americans", you damned well know it, and yet choose to ignore it. It's a SPIEL. It's all crap. You fall for it and give it currency. That makes you a liar along with them. REAL Americans don't need to be coached on who they are and who to identify with. Most of them already know who they are.
Don't you get it? I DO NOT WANT a "maverick" who prefixes every other line with "my friends" with the alacrity of a con-artist, pretends to be a "straight-talking" regular guy with common sense up the wazoo, whines about the importance of qualifications and experience, claims superior leadership and decision-making abilities...and avows "Amerca First". Then that geezer turns right around and selects a friggin' dingbat for a running mate who could place this country in serious jeopardy. Experienced decision-maker? America First? You jmust be out of your friggin' mind. And I haven't even touched on his eratic behavior and the fact that he looks as if he's about to give himself a stroke every time he speaks.
He doesn't give a shit about the country. He's out for Number One, and always has been.
Nope. I don't need that kind of slimy shit anymore to run my country. I decided that. ME. Like MOST Americans will decide for THEMSELVES. That's how it works, okay? Do you mind?
So do yourself a favor and shut the f-ck up. Nobody wants to listen to a liar, and nobody wants to vote for one.
Posted by: Arnosium Upinarum | October 28, 2008 5:17 AM
Radwaste #56 asks, "Why is this race Obama vs. Palin?"
It isn't, but the comparison comes easily since McCain himself raised the issue of experience. And the fact that he selected her raises serious questions about his claims to possessing superior decision-making and leadership ability, something he has also heavily harped on. That doesn't much look like a guy who places America First, does it? More like a con-artist who tries to be look appealing. To win votes. To get into power, into a position of influence in charge of juggling lots of money. A fair amount of egomania is involved too, of course. But not to solve any problems. A little bit of lip-service takes care of those pesky details, you betcha. It's all a matter of appearances, as his campaign amply showed with their considerable investment in the hocky-mom's appearance.
Besides, McCain isn't exactly a spring chicken, is he?
Posted by: saint | October 28, 2008 5:31 AM
Still can't admit you were wrong. Still trying to justify your mouthing off without even a shreck of evidence in the first place.
Palin singled out specific earmarks
Thompson defended his fruitfly earmark this way:
But both the fruit fly research and the narcissitic Public Service Center Palin mentioned - also made it into the Pig Book produced by Citizens Against Waste.
I'm thinking this bit of fruit fly frou-frou would meet more than one of those standards.
The olive fruit fly affects the olive oil industry in California (the only olive producing state), a boutique industry that was worth $32 million in sales in 2002. We have indidivual boutique breweries here that make more than that in a year. And it's not like there aren't other control measures available. Oh wait, what's this:
Snouts in troughs.
Want to make a case for arguing this was appropriate for a federal earmark? Where's the evidence of even a competitive tender? Why doesn't the industry fund it? Why don't the Californians fund it since it's for a local boutique industry? Or do you have a few Democrat donors owning your little boutique farms in the Valley like the do the vineyards?
And hey, if you can't grow olives successfully why not try growing something else. We'll send you our olive oil and we do quite fine with fruit fly control.
You just can't admit it was just Palin-hatred and anti-religious bigotry that prompted your hysteria over the fruit fly research rather than any rational reason based on hard evidence and clear argumentation.
She's gonna kill the Drosophila! It was for autism! No, they canned it because of francophobia! It's the end of science! Run it's Armageddon....now it's what? Vital world saving research?
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
ROFL
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | October 28, 2008 11:19 AM
Arnosium Upinarum . Is that latin for "Shit Head?"
Posted by: windy | October 28, 2008 11:27 AM
Moron. Sarah Palin herself implied that the problem was with fruit fly research in France, so of course people are going to ask if she has something against fruit fly research. If Palin had wanted to use clear and honest argumentation, she could have said "some of this money is going for studying a pest threatening the olive oil industry in California, I kid you not".
Yeah like that earmark for studying harbor seal genetics. Are you against that one, too?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 28, 2008 11:34 AM
The Pig book has the amount listed as
Why'd she chose this one Saint?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 28, 2008 11:36 AM
I wonder what state is listed as the #1 pork per capita state in the Pig Book?
Posted by: SC | October 28, 2008 11:42 AM
Heh.
Posted by: Steve_C | October 28, 2008 11:48 AM
Oh noes! Palin is a socialist!
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/oh-no-sarah-palin-is-a-sociali.html
She certainly redistributed wealth to her little town of Wasilla.
She got over $4000 per capita in earmarks for the meth capital of Alaska.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin employed a lobbying firm to secure almost $27 million in federal earmarks for a town of 6,700 residents while she was its mayor, according to an analysis by an independent government watchdog group.
There was $500,000 for a youth shelter, $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs, and $15 million for a rail project -- all intended to benefit Palin's town, Wasilla, located about 45 miles north of Anchorage.
In introducing Palin as his running mate on Friday, Sen. John McCain cast her as a compatriot in his battle against wasteful federal spending. McCain, the Republican presidential candidate, hailed Palin as a politician "with an outstanding reputation for standing up to special interests and entrenched bureaucracies -- someone who has fought against corruption and the failed policies of the past, someone who's stopped government from wasting taxpayers' money."
Posted by: Mover | October 28, 2008 12:13 PM
to Arnosium Upinarum #79
You snarled, "McCampaign is into the snidest and sleaziest image-engineering ever seen in a national campaign"
Now that's how you win people over to your point of view. I'm impressed.
You complained, "He didn't even know that his own party had weaseled up an alternative plan to Bush's"
One small problem: That's not true. It is spin from the Democrat controlled congress, Sen. Obama's camp, and from their willing accomplices in the legacy media & socialist blogs.
What really happened was the Democrats in congress, continuing their MO of excluding the minority party since Jan. 3 2007, made up their own pork laden bill, agreed to it among themselves, then announced it without consulting Republicans. Once again, failing to reach across the aisle, as has been their MO for about 40 years. Sen. Obama falls right in line.
Arnosium roared, "The man is truly a Grade-A Jerk"
Ahh, more reaching across the aisle. Thank you for your insight.
Arnosium opined, "REAL Americans don't need to be coached on who they are and who to identify with."
You would think, but alas, not when it comes to political campaigns. Just look at Bar