Radio reminder

At 9am Central time, Atheists Talk radio will host Robert M. Price, who is going to explain to us where all this nonsense about biblical inerrancy came from.


  1. #1 NewEnglandBob
    November 30, 2008

    Inerrant the Wind: This means big bad farts, I think.

  2. #2 SC
    November 30, 2008

    Time zone converter:

    Some Minnesota zip codes:


  3. #3 clinteas
    November 30, 2008

    The Sunday radio reminder is really only there for my weekly secret date with SC…:-)

    Always waiting for ya to do your timezone thing,when PZ is too lazy to post the GMT again LOL

  4. #4 SC
    November 30, 2008

    Hi clinteas! *smile, wink*

    With so many people being laid off these days, I’m thankful I still have a job here.

    Will try not to miss the beginning this time.

  5. #5 Trevor
    November 30, 2008

    Weird. When I turned it on, there was this awful “commercial” (more like infomercial), yapping about this dietary supplement to prevent aging, help your joints, save your dog (no, really. they said that).

    What is this?!

    This is my first time trying to tune in, but I definitely didn’t expect to hear a fake-science-infomercial.

  6. #6 CalGeorge
    November 30, 2008

    Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

  7. #7 Mike Haubrich, FCD
    November 30, 2008

    Yes, we have often thought it funny that the infomercials are really a weird way to sandwich the show.

  8. #8 Richard Harris
    November 30, 2008

    …biblical inerrancy…

    This is more of a problem for Xianity than for Judaism & Submissionism. If the scriptures are literally true, that creates many problems. But if it’s only meant to be taken metaphorically, that creates other problems, such as which are the coreect interpretations & who gets to decide. The Catholics solved that by ruthlessly rooting out heresies, & making the pope infallible. The Protestants still have the problem.

    I suppose that the reason that the other Abrahamic religions don’t have such a big problem with it is that they haven’t got that stupid trinity idea, where one god is three gods is one god.

    But why the heck can’t the religious clowns realize that the bible texts were written by primitives who accepted magic because there weren’t other available interpretations of their world? Arghhhhhhh! The stupidity!

  9. #9 speedwell
    November 30, 2008

    He can’t rant and rave against the institution of religion, he says, because it has been so important, so crucial, to the human race for such a long time… even though he speaks as an outsider, a member of the “loyal opposition.”

    Piffle. Does he also support war? Theft? Powerful people ripping off poor people and forming abusive governments? Anything else crucial to the history and development of the human race?

  10. #10 speedwell
    November 30, 2008

    Oh, crap, they used my question on the air. Can’t a girl rant rhetorically anymore these days of technology? 😀 They seem to be taking it in the right direction, anyway.

    (Thanks, Dr. Price.)

  11. #11 Mike Haubrich, FCD
    November 30, 2008

    Heck, I thought it was a great remark. (Mike is watching.)

  12. #12 mikeg
    November 30, 2008

    damn! missed it again

  13. #13 Bjorn Watland
    November 30, 2008

    Don’t worry, mikeg, the podcast has been posted. Listen to it at your leisure.

    For those in the Twin Cities with a free evening, come out to Minnesota Atheist’s FSM tribute. We’re having an all-you-can-eat spaghetti dinner, only $6.66! Check it out here:

  14. #14 Shrdlu
    November 30, 2008


    This warrants a post of its own–

    Creationism: The Latest In Military Suicide Prevention

  15. #15 Laen
    November 30, 2008

    Here’s an OT question. I have limited internet access here in Iraq and I was just told a “wonderful” story about how Thanksgiving wasn’t a harvest celebration with the pilgrims and native americans…no no no, it started a couple years later and was religious. The timing was changed supposedly to not interfere with xmas.

    1. What the hell? Please tell me this is more revisionist history.
    2. Weren’t the Puritans against celebrating xmas?
    3. If this isn’t true, and I don’t think it is, does anyone have any idea who and where it started?

  16. #16 Inner Scientist
    November 30, 2008

    Speaking of the uniquely American penchant for commercialism, I decided to avoid Black friday all together and become a willing participant in Cyber Monday. It seems to decrease my carbon footprint as I point and click my way to a cornucopia of scientific snarkisms for all my geeky friends.
    So in reference to your earlier post about the American Thanksgiving – “Consumption” if you’re a pessimist, or “Gift-Giving” if you’re an optimist. In any case, someone has to start buying again so we can all retire with our 401K’s only down 40%.

  17. #19 NotedScholar
    November 30, 2008

    Hmm. A good find my friend. I think, PZ, that you have some interesting posts, no matter how much we have disagreed in the past.

    Inerrancy doctrines are interesting in that they seem to be a substantially American phenomenon. And: with dubious connections to hardcore Creationism. Ronald Numbers is good on these issues.


  18. #20 costanza
    November 30, 2008

    EXPLAIN where all this “biblical inerrancy” comes from? That’s just stupid – all you need to do is pick up a history book. Ooops, I forgot…reading is a lost skill, nowadays.

  19. #21 Bill Dauphin
    November 30, 2008

    Laen (@15):

    2. Weren’t the Puritans against celebrating xmas?

    Funny you should ask: I was just about an hour ago reading this review of a book that bears on the question. Apparently the Puritans did suppress the celebration of Christmas, and (according to this author, at least) we have Charles Dickens to thank for reversing that. Methinks I need to read this tome.

  20. #22 tresmal
    November 30, 2008

    Shrdlu @14: Thanks for the link, that is seriously fucked up.

  21. #23 deep
    November 30, 2008

    62 for? This poll has yet to be adequately pharengulized!

  22. #24 deep
    November 30, 2008

    For some reason my comment ended up on this page rather than the post with the poll…unusual.

  23. #25 Dr. Psycho
    November 30, 2008

    Biblical inerrancy is no barrier to intelligent conversation. All you have to say is, “Presuming Biblical inerrancy for the purposes of this discussion, it doesn’t follow that your personal Biblical interpretation is presumed to be inerrant.”

  24. #26 RickrOll
    December 2, 2008

    shame it was cut short of an hour. i wanted to hear more. Yep, the “justification by faith alone” was, for all intents and purposes, the death of christianity. Everyone becomes the authority on scripture, everyone goes their own way into the fog, and no one can actually Have an original thought on the subject anymore. It’s the blind mand leading those that willingly put on blinfolds.

    The breakup of the power of the RCC was, however, the biggest contribution to the Enlightenment, and thus, science. YAY Martin Luther, you rascist, biblically incorrect, intellectually slutty monk! Without you, none of this denegration of Christ would be possible. The U.S.A. would all be a bunch of Catholics. What’s more, there would be a severe wanting for technology.

  25. #27 hery
    January 25, 2010

    Powerful people ripping off poor people and forming abusive governments

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