…and this is a 
An early Christmas present!
Category: Kooks
Posted on: November 13, 2008 4:02 PM, by PZ Myers
Watch Bill Donohue explode! I know, it's so easy to set him off, so it's not much of a present…maybe we should think of it as a reassuringly repetitive holiday tradition. This time he's outraged because humanists bought ad space on city buses. It prompts him to a tirade about atheists, Hitler, and even fatwah envy — they're always picking on Christmas, and don't have the guts to abuse Ramadan, don't you know.
Comments
Posted by: Ken | November 13, 2008 4:09 PM
We should do something for the people who put those ads up. We could send them (dare I say it?)....Christmas presents!! That would really get old billy boy's dander up.
Posted by: John Pieret | November 13, 2008 4:09 PM
Be good for goodness sake? That's almost as anti-Cristian as the do unto others stuff.
Posted by: Milo Johnson | November 13, 2008 4:13 PM
"Gay terrorists?"
Posted by: Alex | November 13, 2008 4:13 PM
Go to their site and donate. I did.
Posted by: Escuerd | November 13, 2008 4:13 PM
Shorter Bill Donohue: Everything good is from Christianity. Everything bad is due to atheism.
Posted by: spgreenlaw | November 13, 2008 4:14 PM
"Sociology 101 says that morality has always been grounded in religion!" -Billy Boy
I am beginning to think Donohue hasn't spent much time in any classroom since before the Enlightenment got it on.
Posted by: Renholder | November 13, 2008 4:14 PM
Yeah what's up with those "gay terrorists?"
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 4:15 PM
Does he> even buy that "if you had guts you'd go after the Muslims" wank? I mean he knows>/em> he lives in a mostly Christian country, right?
Posted by: Michelle | November 13, 2008 4:16 PM
Gosh... I'm glad that guy is just a shierking flea. What a hateful whiny bitch...
Posted by: Alex | November 13, 2008 4:17 PM
http://whybelieveinagod.com/
Posted by: Glen Davidson | November 13, 2008 4:18 PM
How bizarre, target Ramadan. That'll grab people in this society.
I will say that it's a travesty that one could not target Ramadan in Saudi Arabia, or in most other Muslim countries.
Donohue's an idiot, since sociologists hardly claim that people in societies are good due to religion. There are reasons, and religion isn't a first cause of anything.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/2kxyc7
Posted by: gypsytag | November 13, 2008 4:20 PM
There's a lot of pent up anger in bill. and i mean a lot. wow.
When he has a heart attack, and i mean when, he's going to be dead before he hits the ground.
That man is in serious need of a group hug.
Posted by: amon | November 13, 2008 4:21 PM
oh, i know bill donohue is an easy target, but the only possible response to his spoutings is "pffffft hehehe"
also: "hahaha, and LOLZORZS"
for goodness' sake (yes, the positioning of the apostrophe matters) the only reasonable response to "WHY DOESN'T HE DO IT AT RAMADAN ?" is kekekeke, what a chuffing muppet :D
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | November 13, 2008 4:21 PM
Maybe everybody can chip in so Pharyngula can give poor Billy some chill-out pills and an anger management class. His doctor would probably thank us.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | November 13, 2008 4:25 PM
Do moderate Catholics even take him seriously any longer if ever?
Posted by: Irene Delse | November 13, 2008 4:27 PM
@ Rev BDC: These days, some moderate Catholics don't even take seriously the Pope anymore.
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 4:27 PM
Actually there's something serious under this point and laugh opportunity. Hard-right politics, and the worse kinds of religiousity really do seem to come first and foremost from a certain personal psychology. It's just control freakery written large. "Argh! You can deviate from societal norms! You need reigning in by the convention and the law. And you can't be trusted with morality. You need gods and churches to do that for you."
Posted by: gypsytag | November 13, 2008 4:27 PM
Bill is an example of what happens to people when they spend their lives lying to defend lies. It clearly takes its toll.
Posted by: Don Smith, FCD | November 13, 2008 4:29 PM
My take away from this: he really does wish it were the 13th century so he could kill all the heathens!
Posted by: Some Canadian Skeptic | November 13, 2008 4:30 PM
Donahue: "Sociology 101 says that morality is grounded not in the individual but in religion"
Ummmmmmmm......no it doesn't. I guess I must have taken a different sociology course from him.
Posted by: Bill | November 13, 2008 4:33 PM
I think Donahue is correct, there is an agenda here. I just think the money could have been spent in much better ways. Again the people who are stupid enough to think that you can't be good if you don't believe in God are probably the ones who beleive in God. The ads are targeted and a non-existent audience and they know that. So what's the agenda? to piss off the christians, get their faces on TV and promote their stupid webiste. The AHA could have given that money to the red cross so they could have saved some human lives. Maybe the christians should respond with an ad that says "Do you need to be a humanist to be a humanitarian?"...
Posted by: Kobra | November 13, 2008 4:33 PM
@20: That's because you didn't go to a
cultprivate school.Posted by: Alex | November 13, 2008 4:34 PM
Oh weird... I went to high school with the AHA guy they have on. Go Jesse! I'm going to go look him up on facebook and congratulate him.
Posted by: MickyW | November 13, 2008 4:37 PM
Gay terrorists stormed a church. Now that sounds like my idea of a fabulous Sunday. What did they do, re-hang the curtains ?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | November 13, 2008 4:38 PM
I guess that leads to this...
Are moderate Catholics even Catholics?
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | November 13, 2008 4:39 PM
Hoo! Was his face red! Red as the suit of Santa Claus, the holy Catholic icon featured in these bus ads. They're going after the second or third holiest day of the year, Jesus's unbirthday!
Posted by: marty | November 13, 2008 4:40 PM
"Sticking their noses where they don't belong"
Yeah, 'cuz Catholics never do that.
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 4:41 PM
MickeyW. They went in incognito then, made a load of noise and pissed off the congregation who were trying to do their service thing. Bad behaviour but not terrorizing anyone as such. If you go to the "blogs in network" tab and go to Dispatches from the Culture War there's some stuff about it there.
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | November 13, 2008 4:42 PM
By the way, here's the "gay terrorists" story. Terrorism! They shouted slogans and threw leaflets!!!
Posted by: Lowell | November 13, 2008 4:42 PM
Bill #21
I look at it as what feminists call "consciousness raising": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_raising
Posted by: Barry | November 13, 2008 4:44 PM
Gee, I hope they got permission to use that lyric line from Santa Claus is Comming to Town. There could be some spoil sports out there, like the ones who pissed in Ben Stein's tent
Posted by: Dances With Books | November 13, 2008 4:45 PM
Man, he really did blow up (Donohue). What do they find so scary? The idea that we can be nice for the sake of being nice. Imagine that.
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | November 13, 2008 4:45 PM
Few more details on the "gay terrorists" here.
I do not condone their disruptive "action," but, really: "terrorists"???
Posted by: AndrewC | November 13, 2008 4:46 PM
Why does nobody ever call them out on the fact that going "well you don't go after muslims" is a red herring? It has nothing to do with anything, and says nothing about atheists. Couldn't we say the same back? Oh you pick on Stalin but secularists were the first to oppose slavery and materialism along with the reformation spurred the renaissance, if they really had any balls or really cared about christmas, they'd go after the muslims.
Posted by: Teleprompter | November 13, 2008 4:47 PM
Yeah, maybe Bill Donahue needs to look at the other threads on Pharyngula from today to learn that atheism is not communism, and that Nazi Germany wasn't atheist, and that there are societies composed mostly of atheists and the non-religious which are quite peaceful and function exceedingly well. But as Ronald Reagan once accidentally said "facts are stupid things".
Posted by: Benny the Icepick | November 13, 2008 4:47 PM
Atheism needs better spokespeople who are more professional and less smugly condescending. I don't care if Galef is the smartest guy in the room, he shouldn't act like he knows it. That smirk of his was supremely irritating.
Granted, he can't compare to Donohue's redfaced blustering, but the kid could take a few lessons in screen presence.
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 4:48 PM
Yeah, they are. It's not like most kinds of protestantism where belief is the defining factor. Catholicism is defined by membership. Once baptised, unless you explicitly reject it, catholicism is for life.
Posted by: ggab | November 13, 2008 4:48 PM
You can harly blame the gays for storming a church.
Not only is Jesus nearly naked on the cross, he is H, O, T, hot.
Put some assless chaps on him and start the parade!
Posted by: Kel | November 13, 2008 4:49 PM
Wow, fatwa envy. Only took him two sentences!
Posted by: Patricia | November 13, 2008 4:52 PM
Hot damn! Gay terrorists. I'll go too. But pulling the fire alarm is a bit too naughty.
Posted by: rayceeya | November 13, 2008 4:52 PM
Typical FOX news BS. They let Donaugh rattle on with the Atheism = Hitler meme and give the other guy a couple of seconds at the end to defend.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | November 13, 2008 4:53 PM
So from Baptism to excommunication or death, no matter what you do you are a catholic?
Posted by: Reginald Selkirk | November 13, 2008 4:54 PM
Speaking of terrorists:
It sounds like the Auxiliary Bishop is threatening to become a suicide bomber.
Posted by: Kel | November 13, 2008 4:54 PM
It's good that things like this come to light, so when we are asked "why do we speak out?", and we can point to this and show the absolute ignorance that the religious leaders put out there. Donohue is batshit insane, and all his flock need to break free and realise he is the voice of idiocy.
Posted by: Lou FCD | November 13, 2008 4:55 PM
Could someone please get Donohue some profession help? He clearly needs it.
Posted by: Spiro Keat | November 13, 2008 4:56 PM
The little hysterical guy seems to be unaware that Hitler was a practising catholic.
Oh, and that tie with that shirt and jacket, I don't think so!
Posted by: Anders | November 13, 2008 4:56 PM
@ 36, agree... and he gives alot of "you know.." between the lines, that always sounds insecure, like a old boxer with severe injuries.. He really came off bad.
Stupid Don Ahu just comes off mad...
Posted by: WRMartin | November 13, 2008 4:57 PM
gypsytag @ #12
A great big old-fashioned oiled up Bear hug. With leather accessories.
Closely followed by the AMI (heart attack), the thump of his body to the floor, then a funeral service in the newly remodeled (gone are those tacky curtains) chapel.
Posted by: Wowbagger | November 13, 2008 4:59 PM
Bill, #21, wrote:
Er, you are aware the Pope lives in a palatial art museum, don't you? And that the Catholic church makes billions of dollars in profit each year? Go to this thread if you don't know what I'm talking about.
You'd better take that gold-plated, diamond-encrusted beam out of your own eye first.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | November 13, 2008 4:59 PM
Gay terrorists stormed a church.
Do you mean Butt Pirates?
The fact that these guys were gay does not mitigate the fact they disrupted someone else's religious service. What should have happened to these jerks is that they had the fuck beat out of them by those fine church going people. People can protest all they like but if say, some "right to life" goon gets all in my wife's face at an abortion clinic or some bunch of bums try to tell me what book I can or can't read or what kind of firearm I can and can't have, well there is going to be some violence going on.
I am now an official "hate crime" offender.
Yes I do hate crime.
Posted by: Matt | November 13, 2008 5:01 PM
He's got a point regarding Ramadan. Remember the Muhammed cartoon buisness...most American media didnt reproduce those cartoons out of fear. I didnt notice too many atheists, save Sam Harris, joining Hitchens in condemning the rioting barbarians in Denmark. Our Christians are so much better behaved, we brave atheists love to poke them through their cages knowing they cant get out. Muslims, on the other hand...
Posted by: Jadehawk | November 13, 2008 5:01 PM
yeah, pretty much. for example, my birth certificate says I'm Roman-Catholic.there's ways to leave voluntarily, too, though (though I suspect that really just amounts to forcing the church to excommunicate you...)
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 5:02 PM
In the eyes of the catholic church (and most catholics) at least.As Dara O'Brien had it
Posted by: Wowbagger | November 13, 2008 5:02 PM
Eric Atkinson,
Fuck off. Take your stupid, homophobic, violent fantasies and just fuck off. No-one wants you here.
Posted by: Ka | November 13, 2008 5:02 PM
# 42:
Strictly speaking, even excommunication doesn't render you a non-Catholic. It merely means you're a Catholic who's been damned to hell.
Posted by: ggab | November 13, 2008 5:03 PM
"What should have happened to these jerks is that they had the fuck beat out of them by those fine church going people."
Careful Eric
If you hit one of them, you might catch gay.
You don't know how it spreads.
It's not like they're born that way.
Posted by: tsg | November 13, 2008 5:04 PM
I once got in an argument with an ex-girlfriend about that. She said that, because I was christened1, I was still Catholic until I formally rejected my Catholicism to a priest2. She honestly couldn't understand that I didn't recognize his authority to make me a Catholic in the first place. Why would I need him to unmake me one?
[1] To appease my grandmother.
[2] I don't know if this is really true, but it is what she told me.
Posted by: Heather | November 13, 2008 5:06 PM
I love the bus ad idea! DC is a good place to target also since it might possibly get the attention of legislators. In my conservative community, I know people who think overall that atheists are a very tiny number and that they couldn't possibly know any besides me. They think I'm crazy when I tell them that they probably know others but they just aren't "out".
Posted by: Numad | November 13, 2008 5:06 PM
"So from Baptism to excommunication or death, no matter what you do you are a catholic?"
That's where notions like "lapsed catholic" come in.
Posted by: fatherdaddy | November 13, 2008 5:09 PM
Bill @ 21
So non-believers are to just sit in our corner and shut up. I say no. When the "Haven't heard from you in a while - God" billboard signs come down I'll think twice about announcing my lack of belief. Until then, you and the other Bill can kiss my atheist ass. I'll take the ass out of some chaps just for you.
Posted by: Alex | November 13, 2008 5:09 PM
@ 36 and 47
Just for some background, his main job isn't being a face for the organisation - he says they threw him in because they had so many media requests they didn't know what to do. So cut him some slack =)
Also, that's just how he smiles... he always looks like he's smirking.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | November 13, 2008 5:11 PM
WOW. Eat shit and vomit.
I don't have any fear, dislike, or hate towards homosexuals.
I just don't give a fuck about them.
"Fuck off. Take your stupid, homophobic, violent fantasies and just fuck off. No-one wants you here. "
Typical response from Wow.
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 5:11 PM
Right in the middle of this phenomenon. You can be a lapsed Baptist; if you stop believing you aren't one any more. The important thing about lapsed catholics is that they are a type of catholic.Posted by: Matt Heath | November 13, 2008 5:15 PM
er I mean you CAN'T be a lapsed Baptist
Posted by: raven | November 13, 2008 5:15 PM
Sounds like a terrorist threat, suicide bomber wannabe. Has anyone notified Homeland Security?
Something I've noticed more and more. The Catholic priests are getting dumber and crazier.
It's no secret that there is a huge gap between the priests and the members and has been for decades. The vast majority of Catholics smile and nod and then do whatever they think is right for them. The Catholic birth rate is identical to the national average, for example.
No one these days wants to be a lifelong celibate, something that isn't required by the bible. So they recruit the mentally slow and fruitbat crazy and wonder why no one takes them seriously anymore.
Posted by: Rey Fox | November 13, 2008 5:16 PM
Meh, that wasn't an explosion. That was just the usual Donohue bleat-fest. The guy probably gets just as worked up when he runs out of Cheerios. He didn't even talk over the other guy. Call me when, say, Christopher Hitchens successfully goads Donohue into a coronary on the air, then I'd be interested in watching.
"So what's the agenda? to piss off the christians, get their faces on TV and promote their stupid webiste."
Sounds fine to me. It's certainly no higher a purpose than most vocal Christian organizations in the USA. In the meantime, it might get some people thinking about why they need all that churchy folderol that they most likely find dreadfully boring and obligatory.
Eric:
"I am now an official "hate crime" offender."
No, you're just an idiot with violent fantasies. Nothing we didn't already know.
Posted by: Matt | November 13, 2008 5:16 PM
Bill Donohue has to be a blowhard. He realizes he and his religion are losing their 'flock', and the man is desperate. And boy does it show. He's resorted to only using scare tactics, bald-faced lies, and fear-mongering in order to re-corral the sheep.
Prediction: within a years' time Bill DOnohue will be caught in a gay bar or hooking up privately (ala Haggard style). The man simply doth protest too much.
Posted by: Elli | November 13, 2008 5:17 PM
We pick on "christian" Christmas because its shoved at us from 50 different directions. We have to give to charity because Jesus did, we have to remember the *true spirit* of the holidays, we have to be good (because they're not good the rest of the year?) because its near Christmas. None of my muslim friends tell me I shouldn't eat in the middle of the day during ramadan, or honestly even mention it at all. They don't try to convert me, and they never tell me I'm going to hell.
Posted by: Capital Dan | November 13, 2008 5:18 PM
Is there ever a point in time where you stop being a gibbering simp, Eric?
Donohue clearly needs serious help. The man is fostering fear and hatred. Inevitably, some dumb fucking Catholic is going to pick up the message Bill Donohue is spouting, and innocent people are going to get hurt. Donohue is a scared, small-minded bigot preaching hate and inspiring violence.
Posted by: Numad | November 13, 2008 5:21 PM
"The important thing about lapsed catholics is that they are a type of catholic."
It says so right in the name. I know.
Posted by: Wowbagger | November 13, 2008 5:22 PM
Eric Atkinson,
You use the term 'butt pirate'. And then suggested 'What should have happened to these jerks is that they had the fuck beat out of them by those fine church going people.'
Hateful expression to describe gays + hopes for violence against them = homophobia, shit-for-brains.
Yes another claim made without evidence. Care to back that up with some examples of other posts I've made along similar lines?
I'm generally against banning people but in your case you've gone from boring to irritating with your non-sequitir libertarian nonsense; you've now achieved nauseating obnoxiousness with your violent homophobia.
Fuck off and die, you clueless neanderthal. Start counting down the minutes 'til PZ bans you, fuckstain.
Posted by: Inoculated Mind | November 13, 2008 5:23 PM
That ad and this video make me want to believe in Santa Claus! I was very impressed with how their nonbelieving guest conducted himself, and clearly showed himself to be more comfortable and amiable than the counter-guest. The journalist was probably not aware that saying that the ad is "Throwing their belief in their faces" was a revealingly biased question, however in the remainder of the interview she conducted herself well. Gay terrorists? Huh boy. Billy Boy really needs to get back on his Alprazolam before he vomits out his cerebellum. It's all he's got left.
Good press, indeed.
Posted by: MikeM | November 13, 2008 5:24 PM
Wow, I was baptised in a Catholic church, and had my first communion, and went to confirmation school for a while... And because I haven't called it in to HQ, I'm still a Catholic?
I doubt they even know I'm alive, let alone where I live. I get the feeling they're just making numbers up about their numbers. Gee, ya think?
By the way, I am really surprised PZ hasn't said a thing about the Scott Eckern deal...
Posted by: GregW | November 13, 2008 5:24 PM
I abused my Rammadan once and had to go to the doctor for an ointment. It's much better now :-)
Posted by: Zac | November 13, 2008 5:27 PM
Donohue:
"They always choose Christmas, don't they?"
It's November Bill! You can't hog two months in the year as a safety-zone against other opinions!
Posted by: The Hogfather | November 13, 2008 5:27 PM
I told you gays it was only a matter of time before this guy said something else stupid. Why does he feel compelled to shout all the time? Come to think about it- it is he and not the secularists who remind me of Hitler.
Posted by: Annick | November 13, 2008 5:28 PM
No god to believe in includes the god of
RamadaRamadanPosted by: Eric Atkinson | November 13, 2008 5:29 PM
Dan. You will not get any argument from me that Donohue is a small-minded bigot. But he didn't storm a gay bar and start preaching.
Gays seem to think their "victim status" get them a free pass on what ever behavior they exalt.
Remember, the best way to have a conversatin with another person it to first insult them.
Posted by: The Hogfather | November 13, 2008 5:29 PM
Wow! I'm gunning for king of the unfortunate typos- "gays" in my last post was supposed to read "guys". LOL.
Posted by: seamaiden75 | November 13, 2008 5:30 PM
Ahahahahahahaha -
The ads are targeted and a non-existent audience and they know that. So what's the agenda? to piss off the christians, get their faces on TV and promote their stupid webiste.
Ok first off what's wrong with that? Do you have some kind of problem with us making ourselves known and daring to speak out. If it was another religion putting a sign on a bus there probably would've been barely a mention of it. Oh and by the way the agenda is to let people know that atheist and agnostics are not the evil immoral people that we are portrayed to be were you not paying attention?
The AHA could have given that money to the red cross so they could have saved some human lives.
AHA-Humanist Organization
Red Cross- Disaster & Relief Organization
Do you see the difference! Why don't all the churches sell their property and give that money to the red cross. Think of all the lives that money would save! But no they continue to line their pockets while our government gives them a hand out through faith based iniatives.
Maybe the christians should respond with an ad that says "Do you need to be a humanist to be a humanitarian?"...
It's their right to do that. So what.
Posted by: Toph | November 13, 2008 5:30 PM
"Sociology 101 says that morality has always been grounded in religion!"
Sociology major here... I guess I missed that day.
Posted by: ggab | November 13, 2008 5:31 PM
Take it easy on Eric Wow. You have to read between the lines of his posts.
He just wants to be told he's pretty enough.
Preferably while you tickle his tank hole.
Is that it Eric?
He doesn't want to beat gays, he just wants to be close enough to take in their salty, musky scent. Maybe nuzzle them a little.
It's O.K. Eric, you can admit it.
Posted by: spgreenlaw | November 13, 2008 5:32 PM
Eric is now threatening homosexuals with violence, and referring to them as butt pirates. I think that alone should be enough to get him banned. At least we won't be subjected to his libertarian nonsense anymore.
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | November 13, 2008 5:33 PM
"Fuck off and die, you clueless neanderthal. Start counting down the minutes 'til PZ bans you, fuckstain. "
Why don't you go see if you can buy you a life.
I might chip in a few coins.
Posted by: Jadehawk | November 13, 2008 5:33 PM
well, to be fair, there IS a Santa on that ad...and I just realized that it might be easier to get out of the Catholic Church officially in Germany than in other places... you simply declare that you won't be giving them money anymore (Kirchenaustrittsgesetz). And you can either stay a non-member of anything, or you can switch to an atheist/humanist organization instead... either way, you leave the church permanently
that's however a negligible bright side to the damn church-tax
Posted by: BlueIndependent | November 13, 2008 5:34 PM
"Maybe the christians should respond with an ad that says "Do you need to be a humanist to be a humanitarian?"...
To which the AHA simply asks: "must you be religious to be charitable?" The obvious answer is no, and so what if AHA is promoting themselves. Religious groups do it ALL THE TIME. It's really quite rare that I can drive through a city and NOT see at least one massive billboard promoting some church, demagoging the abortion issue, or telling me Jesus saves. I get this stuff in my mail, in my front door jamb, under my windshield wipers, in my workplace, in my email...I even get it on highways traveling between metropolitan areas. AHA is doing nothing more than using the same tactics. How that's not obvious I don't quite know.
Posted by: WRMartin | November 13, 2008 5:34 PM
raven @ #65
Are we sure the priests have changed or are they simply opening their mouths more often?
You've noticed that too? DYW disagrees with me and that's why I vent here instead of at home.
To everyone here (sadly, including Pete (ruining masturbation for everyone with his depraved fantasy sex scenes) Rooke) for your patience and understanding.
Be Good For Goodness' Sake God Damn It Or Else.
Posted by: Bostonian | November 13, 2008 5:34 PM
Stupid Internet poll alert: AOL is reporting on this and a poll asks for a thumbs up or a thumbs down on the ad campaign that's making Donohue's head explode in this clip. Vote thumbs up here:
http://news.aol.com/article/holiday-ads-ask-why-believe-in-a-god/245127
Posted by: Nibien | November 13, 2008 5:35 PM
I'm honestly curious, is there one regular poster here that things Eric is a good person, in any way?
Posted by: Nibien | November 13, 2008 5:36 PM
Ugh, thinks, not things.
Posted by: seamaiden75 | November 13, 2008 5:37 PM
I think Bill secretly yearns for some gay lovin just like Ted Haggard. That's why he screams so loudly to cover up the fact that he really wants it!!!
Posted by: Wowbagger | November 13, 2008 5:37 PM
Coming from a libertarian homophobe? The irony, as they say, is delicious.
Tick-tock, Eric, Tick-tock.
Posted by: Patricia | November 13, 2008 5:38 PM
I'd like to agree with you Wowbagger...but Eric Asshole isn't worth the second chastisement it would get me.
So, fuck off Eric, you asshole.
(3)
Posted by: Eric Atkinson | November 13, 2008 5:39 PM
Spgreenlaw. Can you read?
Where the fuck did I threaten gays with violence?
Acting stupid or are you fool enough think just becaues you say sme shit it becomes fact.
Posted by: tsg | November 13, 2008 5:39 PM
Nope. Just snowflakes.
Posted by: Wayne Robinson | November 13, 2008 5:40 PM
Bill Comment #21
"I think Donahue is correct, there is an agenda here. I just think the money could have been spent in much better ways. Again the people who are stupid enough to think that you can't be good if you don't believe in God are probably the ones who beleive in God. The ads are targeted and a non-existent audience and they know that. So what's the agenda? to piss off the christians, get their faces on TV and promote their stupid webiste. The AHA could have given that money to the red cross so they could have saved some human lives. Maybe the christians should respond with an ad that says "Do you need to be a humanist to be a humanitarian?"..."
Yes, that is precisely why I do enjoy this, because it does piss off the Christians.
$40,000 in my opinion is nothing, and money well spent. How far would $40,000 actually go to save human life? Many years ago, a journalist in a local paper wrote an article about how much dog owners spend each month on their pets, and about how much good this money could do spent in other ways, and suggested that sponsoring a child through World Vision (a Christian charity) would cost the same amount. I did the obvious thing, and immediately became a donor (apparently that wasn't the obvious thing to do, because the comments that were made on-line were so filled with spite and venom, that it surprised me). And yes, I also donate to the Red Cross, Amnesty and Mediciens Sans Frontieres.
Posted by: MattF | November 13, 2008 5:41 PM
ggab # 38
Put some assless chaps on him and start the parade!
Ummm..All chaps are assless - otherwise they'd be pants