…and this is a 
Bad arguments, useless poll
Category: Pointless polls
Posted on: November 18, 2008 7:35 AM, by PZ Myers
There is this strange site that has collected testimonials for the existence of god. If I were a believer, I'd be embarrassed at the painful lack of logic in these rationalizations. To the question "I believe in god because…", answers are non sequiturs like "because he is the creator" or "because god is real" or "because I don't do bad things".
There is also, of course, a poll, because nothing says shallow like adding a pointless poll to a web page. The question is " Does God exist?. The answers so far suggest that some doubters have already started pharyngulating it.
No! 51.6%
Yes 47.5%
Not Sure 0.9%
Another possibility is that random readers who stumble across the site read a few of the testimonials and are so appalled at their inanity that they immediately lose their faith in a sudden fit of enlightenment. Go ahead and read a few. They will simultaneously confirm your disbelief and disappoint you with the inadequacy of the average human mind.
Comments
Posted by: MH | November 18, 2008 7:49 AM
Urgh, from just the first testimonial:
"I believe in God because he is not only the creator of all lfe, he is also interested in each and every human life and passionately loves every single human being, even those who seem the least lovable - even those who hate him or mock him."
Even those he allows to be tortured and starved to death, and those who will be in pain all their lives due to some disease which he supposedly created, right?
The site's homepage says:
"Read the stories of normal everyday people who aren't stupid, and haven't been brainwashed, but will talk honestly and openly about their experiences of the true and living God!"
Most of the testimonials I've read do sound like the authors are very much stupid and brainwashed.
(Y'know, that would be the perfect proving ground for Poe's law)
Posted by: Carpworld | November 18, 2008 7:50 AM
Reading the one that starts (weirdly):
it's sad but clear that her real answer, as often seems to be the case, is that she believes because the alternative would simply be too painful to accept. Much as i wish people could just accept the truth I have no problem with belief like this. The danger is that it's the sharp end of the wedge.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, Kot, OM | November 18, 2008 7:50 AM
um hummm
Posted by: Ploon | November 18, 2008 7:58 AM
The mind boggles. Could you try and come up with worse answers?
Posted by: clapton_is_god | November 18, 2008 8:01 AM
It seems to be the religion as consoler issue with a lot of these (mainly female) commenters.
Posted by: Andrés Diplotti | November 18, 2008 8:01 AM
I like how the added an exclamation mark to the No! answer in the poll. Is that supposed to "prove" that atheists are short tempered or something like that?
Posted by: clinteas | November 18, 2008 8:02 AM
Campbell or Progresso? Avoid MSG !
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, Kot, OM | November 18, 2008 8:04 AM
Looks like the sort through submissions before posting them.
we'll see....
Posted by: BaldySlaphead | November 18, 2008 8:07 AM
I've just entered a really obviously ridiculous story about why God is real, in which I repeatedly mention the lack of evidence for God (and then dismissing this inconvenient fact in a really pathetic manner).
Even thought it was patently absurd, I'm pretty certain it'll get through.
Posted by: clinteas | November 18, 2008 8:07 AM
From the "About" page on that site:
Spelling errors...check
Logical fallacies....check
Yup,looks authentic christian !
Im just wondering what the atheist bus is....
Posted by: DuckPhup | November 18, 2008 8:11 AM
Aw... I get to look at the same kind of crap in the local newspaper.
Letter: Free speech or blasphemy?
Posted by: RedGreenInBlue | November 18, 2008 8:12 AM
I am seriously tempted to submit something along the following lines:
"Hi, I started believing in God after the Boxing Day tsunami in 2004, which wiped out a quarter of a million people. I went and re-read my Old Testament carefully, and started to realise that such devastation is perfectly in character for God. Also, it must have been thoroughly deserved: nearly all the people killed were Muslims (who are following a false faith), Hindus or Buddhists (worshipping other gods), or animists, who hate God even more than the Muslims (note that the epicentre was very close to the Andaman Islands which is infested with animists). Many children were killed, and this is because God says on several occasions that he will visit the iniquity of the fathers on the children unto the third or fourth generation." (Ex 20:5 and34:5; Numbers 14:18; Deut 5:9, 23:2 and 28:18; etc.). And what a glorious re-enactment of the Flood! I decided that if God treats people like that, I need to start seriously sucking up to Him."
Or maybe simply:
"I started believing in God after a terrible plane crash where all my family died, and only I survived with only fractured cervical vertebrae which paralysed me from C7 downwards. Praise the Lord for sparing my phrenic nerve and allowing me to breathe!"
NB. I do not subscribe to any of the opinions expressed in the proposed testimonies, and would never wish such things to happen to others.
Posted by: Ploon | November 18, 2008 8:12 AM
The Atheist Bus is the longer one.
Posted by: BaldySlaphead | November 18, 2008 8:13 AM
"Im just wondering what the atheist bus is"
http://www.justgiving.com/atheistbus
Seems to have put the willies up a few people!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, Kot, OM | November 18, 2008 8:14 AM
*snicker
Posted by: Larry | November 18, 2008 8:16 AM
#11 Those stories just leave me absolutely breathless. The writer of that letter should simply try god next time and leave out the medical care part and see how far s/he gets. Not to mention why god isn't praised for the divine gift of the staph infection in the first place. I'm sure it was given with all the love with which it was taken away (ignoring the excellent medical care, of course).
Teh stupid! It burns.
Posted by: Michelle | November 18, 2008 8:20 AM
@#11: ...yea, I guess that God is what makes the meds work. My, how blind I have been!
Doctors and science never get the deserved gratitude from these wackos...
Posted by: Carpworld | November 18, 2008 8:21 AM
DuckPhup> obvious i know but i can't resist doing the true version:
Posted by: BaldySlaphead | November 18, 2008 8:24 AM
Here you are...
Note the bit about editing. Have you seen the TXTspk garbage on there?
Many thanks for your submission to There Probably Is...!
We will check your submission and reserve the right to edit it for spelling, grammar and general readability. We hope that's ok with you.
Please ask your Christian friends to join in with sharing the Good News of Jesus to a world ready to ask questions!
God bless,
yours in Christ,
Rev. Evan Cockshaw
There Probably Is ... !
Submit your story about God
Name * Dave Faring-Hughlar
Age * 37
Location * Swindon
Email * dFaring-Hughlar@xxxx.co.uk
Phone
Brief Biography I am a 37 year old man from Swindon who likes obscure pop music like Cliff Richards, Paul Myers, Eugenie Scott and Dick Dorekins.
I try to go to church at least four times a day, but sometimes I only manage one.
I am big and fat and like laughing at good jokes and all the local children call me 'Mr Jolly', which is funny, because I am a bit lonely, really.
Submit your story
I believe in God because it is simply to difficult to believe that life could come about by any other means.
Many years ago, when I was at school, I believed that evolution was real on acount of it being based on facts and evidence. However, when I was older, I met a man at a Cliff Richards concert who explained that you didn't need facts or evidence, you just needed to put your faith into Jesus. He explained how Jesus loves me and died for my sins. I am not a stupid man, and I said to him, 'Where is your proof?' and he showed me the Bible. I took the Bible away and read it and even though there's no proof whatsoever that the Bible is genuine, it's words made me feel a bit less lonely and so I committed to Jesus.
You can keep your facts and evidence. Jesus is the real deal.
How did you hear about There Probably Is...? via a fiend
Posted by: John Phillips, FCD | November 18, 2008 8:25 AM
I believe in god because...{mind goes blank, again :)} thinks 'this thinking is hard'
...
...
...
...
Nope, got nothing. Come on people, somebody help me out here.
Posted by: Ploon | November 18, 2008 8:27 AM
I believe in God because...
Someone is responsible for my life being such a stinking mess and it sure ain't me!
Posted by: Cuttlefish, OM | November 18, 2008 8:30 AM
I didn't know what I believed
I thought perhaps I was deceived
By Satan, but I felt relieved
To see through the façade.
I opened up the Holy Book
At random, to a page and took
A skeptical and doubting look
But there, of course, was God!
That's all there was; I took a chance
And gave the Holy Book a glance
Then saw the Truth and took my stance
Because I'm not naïve:
You think perhaps I misconstrue?
You think my thoughts have gone askew?
They couldn't print it if not true--
And that's why I believe!
Posted by: josh | November 18, 2008 8:30 AM
I think you'll find the reason the poll was already about half atheistic is because the respondands are British. Look at the locations of the positive testimonials and it'll give you an idea where most of the sites traffic is coming from.
Posted by: MarkW | November 18, 2008 8:31 AM
I think I'll submit a "I don't believe in gods because..." story.
Posted by: Andrew Bolton | November 18, 2008 8:31 AM
Well then I believe in Batman, because he's the protector of Gotham!
The logic seems perfect.
Posted by: Mikael Hiort af Ornäs | November 18, 2008 8:31 AM
@John Phillips, FCD: Pick your choice ---> god
BTW, when I voted, the "No!" bar had increased in size to about 81% of all votes :)
Posted by: quantum cephalopod | November 18, 2008 8:32 AM
I believe in god because I ain't no monkey-man.
Posted by: Mikael Hiort af Ornäs | November 18, 2008 8:33 AM
Hmm... the link doesn't work. Here http://www.abbreviations.com/GOD
Posted by: llewelly | November 18, 2008 8:34 AM
By the way folks. Don't forget to submit your story.
Posted by: mayhempix | November 18, 2008 8:38 AM
Brainwashed and clueless about it in England...
"I believe in God because ... my parents not only told me who Jesus is but demonstrated what it means to be one of his followers."
I mean what more proof could one need?
Posted by: llewelly | November 18, 2008 8:41 AM
Batman? Did you know he's having a secret affair with a nudibranchPosted by: IST | November 18, 2008 8:43 AM
That poll has either been crashed pretty hard already or they missed their target audience. I can't picture the creators of the poll being happy with an 84-15 loss... Now I just have to submit a story... just can't decided between a disbelief story and a pile of complete and utter rubbish. Since we won't be able to distinguish between our intentionally moronic fake stories and the real ones, maybe I'll stick with disbelief.
Posted by: Christophe Thillc | November 18, 2008 8:44 AM
I believe in Winnie the Pooh because he's just great. Also, the book I read taught me that I can be like him, ie nice and helpful to my friends, curious and inquisitive, and that it will make me a slightly better person. I couldn't be good without it, you see, because you can't understand goodness by yourself, you have to see it defined for you in a book. And, by the way, this book does exist, and a great number of person have read and liked it. So, yes, there's no doubt for me that Winnie exists, somewhere. The fact that he doesn't interfere with my life is one more proof, because he's too polite to be intrusive.
Posted by: Father Nature | November 18, 2008 8:46 AM
I believe in god because...
My pastor told me that if I didn't, I'd go to hell and burn forever. My goodness, who wants that?
Posted by: Avenel | November 18, 2008 8:47 AM
I submitted a "I do not believe in gods or goddesses .." story. It won't show up, but it may annoy the editor.
Posted by: andyb | November 18, 2008 8:48 AM
i also believe in sauron because he built barad-dur and it says so in the lord of the rings.
unfortunately, after submission, they say they cannot use every story. this suggests they actually selected the drivel on the front page. incredible.
(85% no, now)
Posted by: Geoff Rogers | November 18, 2008 8:50 AM
Current standing:
No!
626 83.8%
Yes
108 14.5%
Not Sure
13 1.7%
I'd say it's been Pharyngulated.
I believe in God because I am a fucktard, and people like me wouldn't be viable organisms if He didn't exist. After all, if it wasn't for His constant intervention, I'd surely have done something so stupid as to render me a candidate for a Darwin Award...
Did I get that right?
Posted by: Rev. Evan Cockshaw | November 18, 2008 8:50 AM
Hi there,
as the creator of the site let me just explain.
you're right - many of the testimonies coming in right now are not that helpful. But I'm being kind and honouring people who've submitted stuff for now, hoping that the more useful sensible testimonies will come in too and rise to the surface in time.
the site has only existed for just over 1 week, so it's very early days.
My purpose here is very simple. I believe in God, and in the face of the atheist campaign saying "there's probably no God" to stand up and say, "actually, I don't agree, and this is why". It is simply to provide a place to present our experiences of of the true and living God so you can read them if you want to and think "Maybe there is! These people have experiened something, maybe we shouldn't write it off so soon!".
Can I ask please that people from here stop submitting stupid submissions. It's taking up my time and I've got better things to do. I don't go around atheist websites harranguing them for what they wrongly believe to be true, and all I ask for is the same respect.
Thanks!
Rev. Evan Cockshaw
Posted by: Masks of Eris | November 18, 2008 8:50 AM
Three mistakes in one sentence. Also, the main page link to the diocese of Lichfield site doesn't work. Tsk.By their works shall ye know them indeed.
(I wouldn't let these people edit anything "for spelling, grammar and general readability"!)
Posted by: phil | November 18, 2008 8:51 AM
8:50am EST
No! 85.4%
Yes 12.9%
Not Sure 1.7%
Probably not quite the response they were hoping for.
Posted by: Paul R | November 18, 2008 8:51 AM
When I first found this site this morning (UK time) it was about 93% in favour of God with around 100 votes. I emailed the link to PZ, then set about Pharyngulising it myself. By the time I got bored it was a much more even 52% against god. Glad to see it's been hit by the rest of you guys now. :)
Posted by: Tim | November 18, 2008 8:52 AM
Submit a story?, bad enough to subject my eyes to the drivel long enough to vote!
Posted by: SDyuaa | November 18, 2008 8:53 AM
Are we doing fake submissions? Here's mine:
I believe in a loving god because the belief comforts me and I don't want anyone to take away my comfort. He may not be able to save lives and heal amputations, but he is all-loving and that is enough.
Posted by: Lotus | November 18, 2008 8:55 AM
It's amsuing how some of them seem to be unable to differentiate between "God helps people" and "Having a belief in God helps people". When I was a kid having a belief in santa made my life a lot better, that doesn't make Santa more likely to be real. It's not like faries in some cartoon where if we all believe enough they'll be real. Seeing believing in god making people behave in a different way isn't the same thing as proof for a god.
Posted by: Ploon | November 18, 2008 8:55 AM
With all due respect, reverend, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Posted by: Rev. Evan Cockshaw | November 18, 2008 8:56 AM
In addition, it would be slightly false to judge the site just yet as I've only had a few days to work on it. I am busy with a full time job doing other stuff. There is plenty still to do on it, such as sorting out the diocesan link and such like.
Maybe you guys can find something better to do with your important time! ;-)
Posted by: John C. Randolph | November 18, 2008 8:58 AM
The poll is missing an important option: who cares?
As Stanislaw Lem pointed out, if god exists, nothing follows from that premise. It does not follow that we owe it anything, since by definition, if it is omnipotent, then everything is already as it wants it to be.
-jcr
Posted by: Andrés Diplotti | November 18, 2008 8:59 AM
OMG UR BREECHIN TEH CONTRACT!!!!
Posted by: Feynmaniac | November 18, 2008 8:59 AM
Rev. Evan Cockshaw #38,
I thought that's what you wanted. After all, why else would you put this on your front page:
Posted by: John Phillips, FCD | November 18, 2008 9:00 AM
@Mikael Hiort af Ornäs: I know a guy named Guy, so a Guy On Drugs I could believe in :). But probably more accurately, Generator, Operator, Destroyer or Guardians Of Darkness seems to fit the bill here. After all the former lives up to the claims of his followers and the latter fits the behaviour of many of his followers.
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 18, 2008 9:01 AM
I think they've sincerely misunderstood the question. I think they are using "believe" is the sense of "believe is a good thing", like a parent might say "You can do this, kid; I believe in you". I can imagine saying "I believe in the scientific method because it has proven effective" or which is formally similar.That they think this is the question is pretty odd. It suggests that the question of the existence of god really doesn't occur to them.
Posted by: ennui | November 18, 2008 9:01 AM
Hey Rev. Evan Cockshaw:
Why not use this thread to tell us why you believe in god? How good is your answer?
I believe because... I see god in every rainbow, sunset, and on the face of every child! ... My parents believed ... Science is hard ... I'm scurred o' dyin' ... You can't be good without god ... life would be pointless otherwise ... prayer really works! Really! ... etc.
Posted by: clinteas | November 18, 2008 9:01 AM
Yay,party time !!!
Ahem,Rev.Cockshaw,
thank you for clearing this up for me,I never knew I wrongly believed....Good to see the usual christian self-centered smugness at work once more !
So let me get this straight,youd rather not have any reality-based,rational people posting on your site? Fair enough,maybe you should put up a disclaimer stating that.
Posted by: Mikael Hiort af Ornäs | November 18, 2008 9:01 AM
In comment #19, the reply from the site upon a submission of a "I [don't] believe because..." says
How can an execution that took place in year 33 (+-4), that's 1 975 years ago, the story of which was published around year 100, and which has been scrutinised over and over again in various media after that, be considered news?
BTW, I believe in life before death. And cinnamon buns, I looove cinnamon buns, and it is my profound belief that they exist. At least prior to me ingesting them.
Posted by: Rev. Evan Cockshaw | November 18, 2008 9:02 AM
I'm not coming here and being rude about what you believe. I would kindly ask you to show us the same courtesy. That's all.
Posted by: Paul R | November 18, 2008 9:02 AM
Awww, has the Rev Cockshaw spat the dummy? The poll has been removed. Heh heh heh. :)
Posted by: John C. Randolph | November 18, 2008 9:05 AM
Let me just cut to the chase and post this link to all the arguments I've ever seen for the existence of a deity:
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
Evan, If you have a new one, go for it.
-jcr
Posted by: Paul Browne | November 18, 2008 9:06 AM
If you are all keen on helping out the British Humanist Association (the backers of the Atheist bus campaign) you could do a lot worse than make a donation to their >.
The fund is to employ a campaigner who will work full-time to co-ordinate campaigns to oppose the current expansion of faith schools in the UK and to enable state-funded schools to become secular.
Posted by: John | November 18, 2008 9:06 AM
Rev. Cockshaw?
"Cocksure: Feeling perfect assurance, sometimes on inadequate grounds."
Are you a poe?
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 18, 2008 9:06 AM
I guess this means I should believe in you, right?Posted by: Scepticus | November 18, 2008 9:07 AM
The following came up when I tried to access that website from work:
"This Websense category is filtered: Potentially Damaging Content."
Ahh good old websense looking out for my well being.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | November 18, 2008 9:08 AM
LOL....the poll has been removed! Bad arguments are still there however.
This is almost as good as The God Poll .
Posted by: AndromedasWake | November 18, 2008 9:09 AM
Well, I just swung by and saw a nice 87% majority in favour of rationality. Strangely, after refreshing the page I can no longer see the poll. I guess that's because "The truth is most of the population of the world believe in God!".
Though I imagine cowardice also played a part.
Andro
Posted by: Paul Browne | November 18, 2008 9:09 AM
OK, something went awry in my last post, so here it is again.
If you are all keen on helping out the British Humanist Association (the backers of the Atheist bus campaign) you could do a lot worse than make a donation to their campaign against faith schools at http://www.justgiving.com/faithschools.
The fund is to employ a campaigner who will work full-time to co-ordinate campaigns to oppose the current expansion of faith schools in the UK and to enable state-funded schools to become fully secular.
Posted by: John Phillips, FCD | November 18, 2008 9:12 AM
Rev. Cocksure, so what you are only really interested in is lots of confirmation bias. Got that, dishonest to the end. Especially when you consider that your festering beliefs are still the state religion in this country with representatives in the second chamber affecting all of us. It is us Atheist who need to 'hit' back as we have had to put up with your interference in our lives for long enough. Over 2000 years of evil in the name of your god and still counting. See the article by the UK RC bishop the other day, where he claimed that educated people are ruining the RC church by questioning? That just about says it all about the endarkenment named religion. Believe your silly little stories if you haven't the wit to see through the man made BS that is religion, but stay out of my life and the government.
Posted by: Paul R | November 18, 2008 9:12 AM
@Rev Cockshaw,
You claim not to go around harranging atheists for what they believe, however a quick look at the headers of your site suggests that you are actively trying to get us there. The use of the following meta-keywords seems to indicate that we are indeed your target audience:
"Richard Dawkins, God, Jesus, Christianity, Atheism, Atheist Busses, atheist, atheist bus, atheist poster, probably no God, Church of England, Church, meaning of life, deism, theism, agnosticism, agnostics, agnostic, The God delusion"
Posted by: Milton | November 18, 2008 9:15 AM
I believe in god because the bible says that he has created man in his image. This must be true, because god likes wars, floods, burning up cities, plagues, etc. And so does most humans! Isn't it wonderful?
Posted by: FastLane | November 18, 2008 9:15 AM
I think randomly copying submissions and changing 'god' to 'allah', 'Zues', 'Odin', etc. will be fun.
Someone write a script, wouldja? =)
It would make it far more interesting.
Posted by: mus | November 18, 2008 9:16 AM
from the site: The poster campaign by a group of atheists and part funded by the author Richard Dawkins has been really very succesful, in some ways at least. Raising 10 times more than the £11,000 originally hoped for they will now be placing posters all over the UK. We'd like to say 'Thanks Dicky'!!!
Uh... wha??
Posted by: Matt Heath | November 18, 2008 9:17 AM
It probably blocked it for the "atheism" keyword, though.
Posted by: Rebecca | November 18, 2008 9:17 AM
Keywords: Richard Dawkins, God, Jesus, Christianity, Atheism, Atheist Busses, atheist, atheist bus, atheist poster, probably no God, Church of England, Church, meaning of life, deism, theism, agnosticism, agnostics, agnostic, The God delusion
Wow, you sure as hell don't want us there, do you?
Posted by: ennui | November 18, 2008 9:18 AM
Still waiting for Cocksure to answer his own question. Oh, and Cocksure, make sure to dumb it down for us dullard atheists, please.
Posted by: TSC | November 18, 2008 9:18 AM
I just enjoyed a big bowl of stupid mixed in with my morning pumpkin granola.
Posted by: spence-bob | November 18, 2008 9:18 AM
Maybe you guys can find something better to do with your important time! ;-)
Funny - I was about to make the same suggestion to you, Reverend.
Posted by: freelunch | November 18, 2008 9:19 AM
The Wall Street Journal has a piece on how atheists are annoying believers by reminding them that they don't believe:
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | November 18, 2008 9:20 AM
Oh really. Then why say this on the paragraph right before
You may not "go to atheist websites" but you are promoting a website for just that purpose. What's the point of having that website if not to try and convince those who know you are wrong?
Posted by: TSC | November 18, 2008 9:22 AM
Cat fight on pharyngula. Groooowl. Therefore, god exists.
Posted by: Ploon | November 18, 2008 9:25 AM
Ahem. We don't believe. I think that's the whole point. Ah, just another religionut whose imagination is so limited that he can't imagine that there are people who have no need to believe, so whatever they say must be based on some "belief" (which belief is treated "courteously", implying some virtue on the side of the religionut, because actually he thinks our "belief" is silly and not worthy of respect, but he forces himself to be courteous. Which, without a belief in god, he obviously wouldn't be able to, because he would be amoral, just like us).
Posted by: Crispin | November 18, 2008 9:25 AM
They appear to have taken the poll down, at least I can't find it!
Posted by: Emmet Caulfield | November 18, 2008 9:26 AM
Rev. Evan Cockshaw,
All your base are belong to us.
Posted by: DuckPhup | November 18, 2008 9:26 AM
Cockshaw's site might turn out to be useful, in a sense. After being allowed to percolate for a couple of weeks, the entire content ought to be suitable for submission to FSTDT... en masse.
Posted by: MissPrism | November 18, 2008 9:27 AM
Here's one I've abridged slightly:
I believe in God because... I... my life... my life... me me... me personally... my life... my life... me... I... I... my youth... my dream job... give me... I was completely wrapped up in myself and my unmet emotional needs, and once God started to fulfill those needs I was able to look outside myself... me... I...
Posted by: Michael | November 18, 2008 9:27 AM
On this topic about why people believe in the mystical imaginary sky fairy, let us not forget the over 900 people that were suffering from their delusional beliefs that killed themselves in Guyana 30 years ago today, because they "believe". Why do all these idiot groups seem to come from the US? (Jim Jones, Southern Baptists, Mormons, Jehovah Witness, Scientology and all those other strange cults)
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | November 18, 2008 9:28 AM
Poor Rev. Cockshaw, upset in finding out that not everybody agrees with him. Remind anybody of someone else?
Posted by: Moses | November 18, 2008 9:29 AM
Of course the Abrahamic God doesn't exist. Just ask the hard-core "good Hindus." They'll set you straight...
Better, yet, I'm looking forward to the day Focus on the Family" doesn't exist. They laid off 202 more yesterday. That, over the past three years, means they've laid off just under 600 of somewhat over 1500 employees during the past three years.
Burn Dobson, burn!
Posted by: Nick Gotts | November 18, 2008 9:30 AM
Can I ask please that people from here stop submitting stupid submissions. It's taking up my time - Rev. Cocksure
Well, that seems a pretty good reason for doing it. While that's taking up your time you won't be telling children stupid lies, at any rate.
Posted by: Jack Rawlinson | November 18, 2008 9:31 AM
Come on guys, this has to be a joke. "Evan Cockshaw"?
Please.
I mean, he does sound as though he's rather cocksure he'll get into heaven, but...
Posted by: kampar | November 18, 2008 9:34 AM
Posted by "Godwin":
I believe in God because ...He's answered my prayers to the specifics countless number of times.I talked with Him this morning!God is an incredible promise keeper.He has kept all His promises to me.I have tasted Him and can say that God is GOOD!
Okay - which one of you was that ... ?
Posted by: Steve in MI | November 18, 2008 9:35 AM
Funniest. Site. Evah.
The opening graphic scored a coffee spray, but it was well worth the time it will take to wipe down the monitor. The slideshow opens with a renaiassance painting of a muscled, seductive model - obviously Michelangelo's Adam from the Sistine chapel with the Pythonesque god figure removed. The caption asks the reader to consider what's "missing from life" in a picture like this.
I submitted a testimonial, but I don't expect that it will be among those that they highlight. :-)
Apparently "me, a few chilled bottles, and a long weekend" wasn't the answer that the authors were looking for.
Posted by: Kitty | November 18, 2008 9:36 AM
He's real, check out his new church
Posted by: freelunch | November 18, 2008 9:38 AM
Cats don't believe in Ceiling Cat, they believe in themselves. They only let you make comments about Ceiling Cat to humor you -- much like they let you clean their cat box or feed them.
Posted by: Who Cares | November 18, 2008 9:38 AM
I'd like to call a Poe on the website.
Posted by: MissPrism | November 18, 2008 9:40 AM
I call Poe on Martin from West Bromwich. It's the "there 4" that does it:
there is acually no posibiliy that this world could be made by a human being not 1 man could make a single plant from no thing not even from chemicals so there 4 the big