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Advent podcast day 2

Posted on: December 2, 2008 10:48 AM, by PZ Myers

Don't be too disappointed — it's some weird blogger. At least he picked the best and most obvious scientist to represent Christmas.

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#1

Posted by: Zeroeye | December 2, 2008 10:57 AM

Wait! Don't spend your money just yet. Just wait next year for the release of the glowing octupi!

#2

Posted by: LisaJ | December 2, 2008 10:59 AM

Ooooh, I was going to ask for a fluorescent mouse for Xmas, but a glow-fish sounds much more exotic. Plus, I've already got a tank.

#3

Posted by: Glen Davidson | December 2, 2008 11:21 AM

PZ is a natural when it comes to representing the Christ Mass. After all, he knows all about crackers.

Glen D
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#4

Posted by: pikeamus | December 2, 2008 11:34 AM

'twas a good choice.

#5

Posted by: John | December 2, 2008 11:43 AM

This may have already been noted on another post. Whenever I access the front page of your blog, I get this notice from my antivirus -

The Actns/Swif.T was detected in C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\******\LOCAL SETTINGS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\YZG0TLNI\CAEB0R1Q.SWF.
Machine: *******, User: ***********.
Status: File was cured; system cure performed.

#6

Posted by: Emmet Caulfield | December 2, 2008 11:53 AM

John @5,

Googling for it suggests that it may be some kind of virus infecting some YouTube content that attempts to install malware called "Antivirus 2009" and/or redirect to some kind of phishing site via Flash. Seems to be quite new. Details are, as yet, hazy.

#7

Posted by: John | December 2, 2008 12:01 PM

Thanks for the heads up! Since this popup only happens to me at PZ's front page, I figured people here oughta know

#8

Posted by: recovering catholic | December 2, 2008 12:04 PM

Whoa! First time I've heard PZ's voice, and he sounds like a calm, thoughtful, rational, kind human being! How is this possible when he's also an atheist???

#9

Posted by: E.V. | December 2, 2008 12:17 PM

(PZ) sounds like a calm, thoughtful, rational, kind human being! How is this possible when he's also an atheist???

He only sounds this way after he's gorged himself on puppies and kittens. When he's hungry, he sounds like Mercedes McCambridge.

#10

Posted by: Randy | December 2, 2008 12:57 PM

At the end of all these, do they all get together for an anti-christmas meal? As E.V. suggests, perhaps a nice turpuppen and brainberry sauce.

#11

Posted by: Lana | December 2, 2008 1:41 PM

For many years, my brother-in-law (the minister) would send our son an advent calendar. He loved it! Each day, he would open a little window to count down to Christmas. Some had candy. He turned out to be a fine young atheist and never cared about the baby Jesus.

#12

Posted by: gazza | December 2, 2008 1:53 PM

Newton as your Xmas guest! Wow, I'm sure he wouldn't be easy. A genuis for sure, but he was also barking mad! Watch out if he tries to do any alchemy with your cooking ingredients. And get familiar with his brand of heretical unitarian religion.

#13

Posted by: Patricia | December 2, 2008 1:59 PM

recovering catholic - I know, I have the same reaction! PZ sounds like the great Magog or the mighty kraken in some of his blog pieces, but on YouTube or the radio (and Expelled) he looks and sounds like a lovable fuzz ball. Cracks me up!

#14

Posted by: Cloudwork | December 2, 2008 3:10 PM

Wow. Stephen Fry was on yesterday as well

#15

Posted by: Al | December 2, 2008 5:23 PM

Why do they have a picture of Alexei Sayle as Santa?

#16

Posted by: Tom | December 2, 2008 6:52 PM

Al #15: Alexei Sayle isn't Santa. He's God! I'm a huge fan. Our american friends will know him as Belovski in the 'Young Ones' if they watch 80s british comedy.

#17

Posted by: Graculus | December 2, 2008 7:30 PM

Our american friends will know him as Belovski in the 'Young Ones' if they watch 80s british comedy.

or, if they are old enough, as the villan in Solarbabies

That is, if you haven't drunk enough to have forgotten the horror that was Solarbabies

#18

Posted by: pharynguphat | December 2, 2008 7:56 PM

Weird blogger, incorrect.

Brainless fuckbucket.

That is all.

#19

Posted by: Nerd of Redhead | December 2, 2008 8:01 PM

Brainless fuckbucket.
Incorrect. The poster, not the blogger.
#20

Posted by: windy | December 2, 2008 10:35 PM

At least he picked the best and most obvious scientist to represent Christmas.

Dan Dennett?

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