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Nice lecture
Category: Humor
Posted on: January 7, 2009 4:10 PM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: J. D. | January 7, 2009 4:14 PM
Brad Neely is God.
Posted by: pradeep | January 7, 2009 4:15 PM
This is too much! :)
Posted by: Cruithne | January 7, 2009 4:16 PM
Video not available here in Paris, France.
Boo, hiss...
Posted by: Arnaud | January 7, 2009 4:20 PM
Video is not available here in Brussels, Belgium.
Boo, hiss...
:(
Posted by: Kel | January 7, 2009 4:22 PM
Not available in Australia. :(
Posted by: Glen Davidson | January 7, 2009 4:22 PM
Nice story for putting down the neighboring tribes, of course.
Sort of gives the tenor of present-day conceptions in Palestine, though.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/6mb592
Posted by: HumanisticJones | January 7, 2009 4:22 PM
Dude, if your biology lectures involve a slightly vulgar humorization of cephalopod biology, I think I chose the wrong major when I went with computers... and the wrong school by staying in Georgia. "And I'm not even going to touch how they transfer their gametes. Squid mating habbits. Total Insanity."
Also good are the Professor Brother's songs about historical figures, that you know are just 100% accurate (Washington, Washington, 12 stories high, made of radiation!)
Posted by: Newfie | January 7, 2009 4:25 PM
no can see from Canada either *lights torch*
BURN THE POSTER AT THE STAKE
Posted by: Rrr | January 7, 2009 4:25 PM
"You've reached this page because we arae currently not allowed to share our videos across United States borders. It sucks. We know."
ಠ.ಠ
"If you're in Europe or the UK, try adultswim.co.uk."
ಠ_ಠ
"Otherwise, why not play a game on the main site or log on to our message boards to tell us how much you hate us now?
Sincerely,
adultswim.com"
ಠ_______ಠ
Posted by: James Haight | January 7, 2009 4:25 PM
Not available from anywhere but the US, it seems. HERESY.
Posted by: Steve_C | January 7, 2009 4:26 PM
AWESOME!
Yes. Total insanity.
Posted by: Zeno | January 7, 2009 4:28 PM
Damn. I wish my lectures were that interesting. But I don't lecture from the Bible, where the really crazy stuff comes from.
I just watched a video this morning that says God encoded the speed of light into one of Peter's epistles, proving that the Bible is divinely inspired. Awesomely hilarious!
Posted by: JimNorth | January 7, 2009 4:28 PM
PZ, when did you go bald and file your teeth?
The two sexy angels had me rofl-ing.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | January 7, 2009 4:29 PM
Video is not available here in Canada!
Posted by: Elliott | January 7, 2009 4:31 PM
Great moral lessons here folks.
Definitely see why a country at the dawn of the 21st Century of the Common Era needs this guidance.
Alternatively, You you could stop drinking the Cool Aid and wake up!
Posted by: Martin | January 7, 2009 4:33 PM
Yeah - damned video only works in the USofA
Posted by: Jadehawk | January 7, 2009 4:33 PM
so whose stupid idea was it to put borders into the interwebs?!on the other hand this means there's still at least a handful of advantages to living here left.
Posted by: H.H. | January 7, 2009 4:35 PM
What's so awesome about that clip is that it pretty much presents the biblical story without embellishment. There's just a few jokes about how messed up it all it, but that's basically what the bible says. You can't parody this stuff. The bible really is insane. If taken literally, of course. If you go in with the mindset that none of this stuff every happened in reality, simple moral lessons (many of them immoral by today's standards) can be teased from the madness. But in my opinion, it's really not worth the effort.
Posted by: Rey Fox | January 7, 2009 4:40 PM
But PZ, I thought you only discussed biological stuff and didn't breathe the unholy fire in your classroom. Were all those complaining Catholics right about your influence on children?
Posted by: Randy | January 7, 2009 4:41 PM
You've reached this page because, (Finally!), America has a sane representation of the bible that we didn't have to import. Sorry, dirty foreigners, but even if we are atheists, (and thus generally morally superior), we are still Americans, (and thus generally pretty greedy). So you can't watch it, nyah-nyah.
Posted by: ndt | January 7, 2009 4:42 PM
For those outside the US unable to view the video, try finding a free US-based proxy server and surf through that. That will probably fool the server the video is hosted on.
(Australians should get in the habit of doing all their web-browsing this way).
Posted by: Nick | January 7, 2009 4:43 PM
Youtube link for us non-american type folks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0r7syc1BSg
Posted by: Rowen | January 7, 2009 4:44 PM
HH, that's not exactly what the bible says about Sodom and Gomorrah. Yes, it does say they were wicked, but there's not indication that they were fucking everything in sight. In fact, the angels, ezekiel and Jebus all state that the sins of Sodom are inhospitality to strangers and an unwillingness to take care of the poor.
Yeah, there is a sexual aspect to the story, but it's VERY different to how we think of sex today.
It's one of the things that pisses me off when Christians start blathering on about this. It makes me wanna shake them and scream, "You don't even know what the hell your own bible tells you, goddamnit!!!"
Posted by: Blake Stacey | January 7, 2009 4:47 PM
It doesn't sound at all like your lecturing style, P-Zed. There were no jokes at Phil Plait's expense.
Posted by: Alex | January 7, 2009 4:51 PM
Adult Swim? Wait, what?? What about SuperDeluxe?
Posted by: TW | January 7, 2009 4:52 PM
Sadly I can't see the video. Is there a good summary?
Posted by: Joshua BA | January 7, 2009 4:53 PM
They left out the best part where Lot's daughters get him drunk and then rape him in his sleep to keep the family line going.
Posted by: Craig | January 7, 2009 4:55 PM
Video is not available here in Okinawa, Japan.
Boo, hiss...
Posted by: Agersomnia | January 7, 2009 4:55 PM
horribly sad boring site.
Can't see anything outside of the US and A
Posted by: Beowulff | January 7, 2009 4:55 PM
Of course, it'd help if they'd give us the title of the movie we tried to watch, so we'd actually have a shot at finding it at their UK site...Posted by: funda62 | January 7, 2009 5:03 PM
ROFL and if the Christians got their way this is what elementary school education would look like.
Posted by: Dan Sprockett | January 7, 2009 5:09 PM
"most un-sexily" - That's exactly how I wave my de-sexing stick, too.
PZ- check out Brad Neely's "Washington" music video at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-69414486881463942
It makes me proud to be an American!
Also, you've got some competition for the title of "Most Powerful Blogger in the Universe" now:
http://www.minnpost.com/client_files/alternate_images/6236/mp_main_wide_superman.png
Posted by: Damian | January 7, 2009 5:10 PM
Video is not available here in Auckland, New Zealand.
Boo, hiss...
Posted by: Marcie | January 7, 2009 5:11 PM
Not available in Canada. Boo.
Posted by: Jesus | January 7, 2009 5:17 PM
Video not available in Mexico. Boo. Stupid adultswim.com
Posted by: Kassul | January 7, 2009 5:18 PM
Thanks for the Youtube link Nick @ 22, and I'll join in the booing of AdultSwim for not letting us Canadians view the video.
I thought we were supposed to be the 51st state? Apparently AdultSwim disagrees.
OT, but have you heard about spookfish eyes PZ and everyone else?
Slashdot has a story going about it. Apparently they decided not to go with a lens, but rather to use a mirrored surface to focus light. Very odd and awesome.
Posted by: blf | January 7, 2009 5:21 PM
Thanks, Nick@22, for finding the video on YouTube so those of us privileged to not be trapped in the USA can see the PeeZed-A-Like in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0r7syc1BSg
Posted by: Cruithne | January 7, 2009 5:22 PM
Nick at #22
Thanks for the link
Yay, whoopee!
Marcie at #34
We are missing a hiss from your last post.
Posted by: Longtime Lurker | January 7, 2009 5:35 PM
And I thought Gomorrah was named after a giant fire-breathing turtle!
Hey, Larry Flint is up to his old tricks:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/07/porn-industry-seeks-federal-bailout/
Posted by: Ompompanoosuc | January 7, 2009 5:35 PM
@#27 Joshua,
Twice.
pompy
Posted by: Teleprompter | January 7, 2009 5:40 PM
SuperDeluxe.com?
That's what I would try...for all of our non-American friends. It's a swell website in general, especially the tons of videos by Brad Neely. Have a good time - his "George Washington" video and several others are awesome.
Posted by: Tony Sidaway | January 7, 2009 5:40 PM
Thanks for the Youtube link. I laughed so much I nearly got pregnant again.
Posted by: quidam | January 7, 2009 5:41 PM
I was going to post this link
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=SspboO7yOc8&feature=PlayList&p=1FF48AED901FE0EE&index=0&playnext=1
but I see I was beaten to the punch. Oh well, I'll post it anyway, there's aplaylist for the whole series
Posted by: garth | January 7, 2009 5:44 PM
Frank smells like chicken all the time.
Down there.
Posted by: nanahuatzin | January 7, 2009 5:47 PM
Video not available here in Mexico
Boo, hiss...
Posted by: Benny the Icepick | January 7, 2009 5:51 PM
Unfortunately, Adult Swim and its evil overlords have acquired SuperDeluxe.com. As a result, all of that great stuff there has now been assimilated into Adult Swim's butt-ugly interface. What's worse is that all of the videos have now been censored, so all of Neely's ingenious cursing is perforated with bleeps.
It's so terribly sad.
Posted by: Ced | January 7, 2009 5:55 PM
Not available in Switzerland either.. Boohoo!
Posted by: Catalin Sandu | January 7, 2009 6:13 PM
Not available in Canada. Boo, hiss again...
But wait... it's on YouTube. The wonders of technology!
Posted by: Tom | January 7, 2009 6:14 PM
I remember the time I met Brad Neely. I couldn't believe he did **** with the ****. The police didn't see his point of view and the archbishop said ****. He said he would ****** with **** in an **** with an enormous blancmonge, not to mention the sharks in the pool. How we laughed!
Sorry, but I am not currently not allowed to share this anecdote across United States borders.
Posted by: Kurt | January 7, 2009 6:17 PM
Dude...that's like totally educationaly-like.
Rock on PZ, rock on.
Posted by: Mikko | January 7, 2009 6:48 PM
us copyright laws stops me from seeing the video
Posted by: Gerard | January 7, 2009 6:59 PM
Video not available. This is total BS.
Posted by: minus | January 7, 2009 7:10 PM
re Lot's Daughters as redacted by by the lecturer and referenced at #27.
I never trusted that story because I have never heard of any man who could get an erection while passed-out drunk. I don't think he was drunk at all, just faking it so he could pork his two daughters. Later he could just say, "Hey I was drunk at the time, it was their fault." After all, boning a pillar of salt ain't easy.
Also wondered how he could be so righteous and then go get drunk first chance he got. And didn't Noah do the same thing? Weird morals those old Israilites.
Posted by: Corey | January 7, 2009 7:24 PM
Reminds me of today's news article announcing the U.S. states with the highest teen birth rate. You can replace the title of the map with "Bible belt" or "Republican Red States" and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_on_he_me/med_teen_births
Posted by: Levi in NY | January 7, 2009 7:25 PM
Well, there's nothing wrong with alcohol. God's cool with alcohol.
Just don't touch that shellfish.
Posted by: Steve_C | January 7, 2009 7:30 PM
Oh, I'm so going to hell then.
*puts on the lobster bib*
Posted by: tootiredoftheright | January 7, 2009 7:45 PM
Ah people you could have also seen these videos on their actual creator website which is superdeluxe.com
Also Adult Swims which the professor isn't one of them are shown on Teletoon in Canada.
Posted by: tootiredoftheright | January 7, 2009 7:48 PM
Ah crap Superdeluxe.com which was indepedent of adult swim.com is now part of them. And most of the videos are now gone. Bah.
Posted by: AnthonyK | January 7, 2009 8:02 PM
Now here's super-concentrated stupidity:
Did you know that Genesis contains the value of Pi to 0.001%?
Well, now you have no excuse:
http://www.cornswalled.com/2009/01/evaluation-of-pi-from-within-genesis-1.html
Awesome!
(This comes from the same guy who did the scientist cartoon in the post below)
Posted by: Jeff Satterley | January 7, 2009 8:20 PM
I want to know how this is like your lectures, PZ.
You you make inappropriate comments about sex and then wink and your students?
Posted by: Diego | January 7, 2009 8:28 PM
Damn! I thought Puerto Rico counted as part of the US. It's a commonwealth but come on...
Booo!
Posted by: ringtailroxy | January 7, 2009 9:42 PM
this was the funniest thing I've seen in 2 weeks! none of my professors are anywhere near so cool.
I can't even get my animal anatomy professor to back me up on having a Darwin Day Brunch...she says she prefers not to get involved in anything controversial. so tomorrow i will try my hand with the student life staff...
if we could have christmas carols & a freaking tree in our lunchroom, i should be able to have a Darwin Day Brunch!
ringtailroxy
Posted by: Tualha | January 7, 2009 9:55 PM
Hey, anybody in Key West able to access the vid? 'Cause, you know, technically... ;)
Posted by: OctoberMermaid | January 7, 2009 10:29 PM
If we're posting videos, check this one out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SQmhCf8H_U
Have fun.
Posted by: raatrani | January 7, 2009 10:45 PM
That is so funny! I've heard PZ lecture... it's not far off! =]
Posted by: funda62 | January 7, 2009 11:05 PM
#53 Right. But it was okay because it was close enough to the fall of Eden that the genetics weren't all messed up and so the offspring weren't two headed retards.
Posted by: Dahan | January 7, 2009 11:09 PM
I am SO going to try to affect that tone, etc with my class on Design Process tomorrow morning!
Posted by: trythese | January 7, 2009 11:28 PM
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bible+history+professor+brothers
Posted by: trythese | January 7, 2009 11:32 PM
This one will work.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3963584/The_Professor_Brothers_-_Superdeluxe.com
You may need http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Posted by: damnedyankee | January 7, 2009 11:48 PM
In this particular case, that would be Viacom's.
Posted by: Paper Hand | January 8, 2009 12:00 AM
Minus @ 53:
And didn't Noah do the same thing?
Ah, but you see, Noah didn't mean to do it. According to the latest crack research (or maybe that's "research on crack") by Ken Ham, there was no fermenation in the pre-Flood world. So, ole Noah just meant to have some nice grape juice, and wouldn't you know it, the grapes spoiled!
Posted by: John Morales | January 8, 2009 12:06 AM
Jeff @60, it's jocular sarcasm.
Posted by: Quiet_Desperation | January 8, 2009 12:54 AM
That is the oddest recap of the 9/11 attacks I have ever seen.
Posted by: Benny the Icepick | January 8, 2009 1:25 AM
According to Brad Neely's website, http://www.creasedcomics.com (linked in my name above), he'll soon be uploading all of his videos, uncensored, to his website.
I have no idea what Adult Swim did to the video, but the video quality is TERRIBLE. The originals on SuperDeluxe were much crisper, with bolder colors. The sickening bright pinks and blues Viacom has decided to put on Adult Swim's site only desaturate the videos even more by comparison.
I am really, really upset by this. Apparently Brad Neely is too:
"Neely can do nothing about it. SuperDeluxe is gone. We are lucky to have our pieces posted on Adult Swim.
I know the censoring sucks. It really, really fucking does. But Adult Swim is bound to TV Standards. It's the only way.
Trust me, Neely can't even get out of bed. He's crushed. Yet, he'd gladly keep a son without teeth then have no son at all.
The future is all that matters. We'll see what we can do in the way of fuck words and shit drawings. All we can say is, "NEXT!" "
Posted by: Paul | January 8, 2009 2:06 AM
Not available in Cambodia either. Who'd have thought.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | January 8, 2009 2:49 AM
Whoo-hoo! Look at all of you checking in from all across the world. Wow. So beautiful!
I don't think PZ could get away with this in his class room. Must be wishful thinking on the students part.
But on the other hand...wicked, wicked Auntie Pat can tell bible stories to the kiddies... *smirk*
Posted by: Cactus Wren | January 8, 2009 3:32 AM
Dr. Myers, I have just decided that I really have to start attending your lectures.
Posted by: Jing-reed | January 8, 2009 5:10 AM
Not available here in Thailand either. But since inquiring minds are relentless in pursuing education, I watched it by way of a proxy server. Delightful.
Later found it is also available on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SspboO7yOc8
Posted by: Jing-reed | January 8, 2009 5:36 AM
...and if you haven't seen 'Professor Brother's Jesus F***ing Christ' you don't know what you've missed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzxmMbMDqwI&feature=related
Now THIS is pulling out all the stops on the real history of the bible.
Posted by: culmastadm | January 8, 2009 7:27 AM
Too bad, it is funny. Watching it from MI here.
I liked how after he would talk about something gay, he kept pointing at that same guy. Heh.
It points out the obvious stupidities of the story:
Washing strange men's feet = good.
Digging it = bad.
Posted by: Aaron Baker | January 8, 2009 9:26 AM
Hmmm, I've read that story a few times, but I don't remember the ka-ka.
Posted by: damnedyankee | January 8, 2009 2:00 PM
The ka-ka is a lie.
(flees the room, pursued by various thrown objects)
Posted by: Nick | January 8, 2009 2:09 PM
It would have been even better to have him explain how Lot's daughters later get him drunk and convince him to have sex...gotta love Old Testament morality!
Posted by: Rickr0ll | January 8, 2009 2:20 PM
I'm back, and this is so damn funny and birarre, i lolled. Pefect for this discussion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y60xCJwQIHo
Posted by: Allytude | January 8, 2009 3:12 PM
I wish I could lecture like this...
Posted by: Will Von Wizzlepig | January 8, 2009 4:37 PM
The same guy did this one, nonsense for sure, but funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA