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This is terribly crass of me, I know, but I'd love to win a free iPod Touch or iPod Shuffle. All I have to do is get the most people to click through the link posted below, and if I'm one of the top 3 promoters, I win! I get all these readers here, so I figure I might as well use you for personal gain.
Here's the link. Come back and click on it every day!
Well, as you can guess, I'm not really after the gadget itself…I'm more interested in seeing Eric Hovind compelled to send it to me. Heh heh heh.
(Of course, given his family's criminal tendencies, and their adherence to Christian immorality, there is a good chance that even if I get the most click-throughs, I won't win.)
Comments
Posted by: Lynna | April 23, 2009 10:30 AM
PZ, they are going to send you an iPod stuffed with Creation Videos!
Posted by: Anders Hesselbom | April 23, 2009 10:31 AM
Don't expect to get one. ;-)
~clicking away for dear life~
Posted by: Wes
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April 23, 2009 10:32 AM
From the website:
Your god is my god's stool. So there.
Posted by: Apikoros | April 23, 2009 10:32 AM
It would probably cost you less to buy a new iPod (without creationist videos) than to have a professional exorcist wipe that one clean.
Posted by: Michael | April 23, 2009 10:33 AM
I suddenly feel so...dirty.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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April 23, 2009 10:34 AM
Some days PZ, you are positively evil. I'll hit it with every browser every day.
Posted by: CJ | April 23, 2009 10:35 AM
Oooh yes. Anything to further the noble pursuit of childish amusement!
Posted by: Rorschach
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April 23, 2009 10:35 AM
No way.
Posted by: Attila | April 23, 2009 10:35 AM
Wow. The creation minute on Isiah 66:1. The Earth is god's footstool really misses the point. Wow we live in this big universe but it's all about us. Biblical glasses blocking out the truth for 6000 years, give or take a few billion.
Posted by: Porco Dio
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April 23, 2009 10:37 AM
well PZ you fill my head with facts i might as well try fill your head with music!
good luck
Posted by: mollywriter | April 23, 2009 10:38 AM
So God is big enough to use Earth as a footstool, but he's really, really tiny if you put him next to anything bigger than the sun--which is most of the other objects mentioned in the video. After that, God pretty much disappears when compared to galaxies, galactic clusters, or pretty much anything photographed by the Hubble.
Posted by: Jonathan Christian | April 23, 2009 10:39 AM
But PZ, you do realize that the ipod comes "filled with creation videos". Be sure to restore that baby back to it's factory settings.
Posted by: bolo | April 23, 2009 10:40 AM
Oh, maybe Kent shouldn't put his ears next to Footstool Earth.
Posted by: mollywriter | April 23, 2009 10:40 AM
I always get a kick out of those comparison charts. Here's a good one:
http://naurunappula.com/hotlink.php?/nn/0/162/165/353424.jpg
Posted by: mxh | April 23, 2009 10:41 AM
Not sure if I want to give that website any hits. Does it have ads? Our clicking could give them more money than the ipod is worth.
Posted by: Lynna | April 23, 2009 10:42 AM
Sweet. PZ had to register to get his own personal link from the Creation Minute website. A brave man.
Posted by: CrimsonFace | April 23, 2009 10:43 AM
So sizewise its:
death star
Posted by: Ranson
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April 23, 2009 10:45 AM
mxh,
While that probably is the point, they may also just be trolling for new email contacts from the people that sign up for the contest, who can then be harrassed for donations. It's probably both, to be honest.
Posted by: nigelTheBold
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April 23, 2009 10:49 AM
Oooooo..... purty computer graphics!
I wonder if creationist videos make much money. They've gotta be cheap to create: TRON had better CGI. I figured they're even easier to write, as all you have to do is spout some nonsense about "ultimate purpose," and "obvious design" and "god's eternal flatulence." I even have an hypothesis: the more nonsense, and the more it mentions the "absurdity of the materialistic atheist worldview," the more popular it'll be.
I think I haves me a new get-rich-quick scheme!
Posted by: PZ Myers
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April 23, 2009 10:54 AM
If you think I'm evil now, wait until you learn what I would plan to do with it, if I did win.
I can't say what it is yet, though -- I don't want to give them more incentive to arbitrarily disqualify me.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 10:55 AM
I set up my own link and with my massive internet following I will CRUSH YOU PZ.
You don't stand a chance.
eeeeeek
Posted by: Nich | April 23, 2009 10:56 AM
If you do get one, raffle it here, and donate all money to a charity. Just thoughts.
Posted by: CalGeorge | April 23, 2009 10:58 AM
PZ on the radio today! I think it starts at 9 am PST.
http://www.ijpr.org/ProgramGuide.asp?StationID=3
Today on the program:
Superstition, pseudoscience, and blind spirituality -- P.Z. Myers says these are the ills running rampant in our society. Myers, a blogger and biologist at the University of Minnesota-Morris, writes about science and snipes at political reactions to science on his website called "Pharyngula." We talk with Myers about evolution in schools, religion in science, and life as a confirmed atheist.
Posted by: maddogdelta | April 23, 2009 10:59 AM
Don't just click on it once per day, folks! They aren't doing any checking for repeat clicks that I can tell, so when you click, click it a bunch of times!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 10:59 AM
Assuming you best me, I hope it has to do with two things.
Porn and squid.
With a soundtrack by Frank Zappa.
Posted by: blueelm | April 23, 2009 11:02 AM
Nich @ 22: That's a cool idea! I bet you could get a decent donation amount for auctioning it. Hope you win. I clicked.
Posted by: apthorp
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April 23, 2009 11:02 AM
not that i expected logical connection, there doesn't seem to be any narrative, emotional, metaphorical, mythological, cognitive, or any other sense here?
lets see: ok, here's the earth. It's about as big as god's feet. Other planets are WAY bigger than that, i.e. much bigger than god.
so what's the point?
Posted by: cervantes
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April 23, 2009 11:02 AM
The Bible says that the Earth is God's footstool. How big is your God?
Err, if God is using the earth for his footstool, isn't that like, crushing stuff? Also, it's rather humiliating. A "floor boy" was a slave whose job was to serve as a footstool, back in the glory days of the South. I'm certainly not willing to play that role, although it apparently makes these creationists feel they're in their proper place.
Posted by: willbxtn
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April 23, 2009 11:05 AM
Ah, looks like PZ has moved on from sabotaging internet polls - he's now sabotaging internet competitions! I really hope he wins this!
Posted by: dq | April 23, 2009 11:06 AM
How can we compete with computer graphics like that!
We may as well give up now.
Posted by: Dan | April 23, 2009 11:08 AM
As a former (and, sadly, all too recent) xtian who's so grateful to have resources like Pharyngula to ward off susceptibility to religious superstition, I just opened four browsers for clicking.
(And it would have been five except that Minefield won't open unless I close Firefox first.)
Posted by: Richard Eis | April 23, 2009 11:08 AM
I don't think round objects make good footstools. Although it does nicely show what their god really thinks of them.
Posted by: ColonelFazackerly
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April 23, 2009 11:09 AM
Will PZ sell it and give the money to the Richard Dawkins Foundation?
(Writing as if PZ won't read it feels nicely wrong).
Posted by: Walton | April 23, 2009 11:10 AM
He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is succour to the brave,
And the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 11:14 AM
Walton's favorite song.
No I'm not kidding.
Posted by: RamblinDude
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April 23, 2009 11:14 AM
What’s truly amazing about that Creation Minute video is that all that information on size-comparison of solar bodies was derived from an independent line of Christian research that entailed nothing more than praying to God for answers and then praising Jesus.
Really!!
Posted by: pdferguson
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April 23, 2009 11:18 AM
The Earth is God's footstool? I guess that explains the funny smell in my backyard...
Posted by: dertfgyhuiko | April 23, 2009 11:19 AM
If the Earth is God's footstool... is God actually pretty small compared with say Arcturus or does He just have disproportionally small feet?
Posted by: Glen Davidson | April 23, 2009 11:19 AM
Planets are big, stars bigger. Thus, god.
Really, is it any worse than ID's "life is really complex, thus god"?
The only thing that's amazing is that a biochemist like Behe is at the bottom no more sophisticated than a hick like Hovind.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/6mb592
Posted by: bolo | April 23, 2009 11:20 AM
God is working on His core.
Posted by: Bunk | April 23, 2009 11:20 AM
My god is teabaggin' your god while he's got his feet up on Earth.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | April 23, 2009 11:23 AM
You'd better come up with a good stunt PZ, Big Bad Bill has forgotten about you. *snicker* He's pissed at Ron Howard now.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 11:26 AM
Because of the new Tom Hanks movie?
I guess that doesn't surprise me even a little bit.
Posted by: Randomfactor | April 23, 2009 11:27 AM
does He just have disproportionally small feet?
With other portions of the anatomy sized to match.
Posted by: MarkW | April 23, 2009 11:27 AM
It's a trivial task to write a Python script to "click" the link as many times as you like...
... but that would be dishonest *whistles innocently*
Posted by: asdf | April 23, 2009 11:28 AM
Not surprisingly, creationminute does not have anything about black holes.
Posted by: Richard Smith | April 23, 2009 11:29 AM
OMG! You're going to drive a nail through it, along with a Zune and a vinyl record, throw it all into the trash, and post pictures of it! Oh, the humanity!
Posted by: Attila | April 23, 2009 11:30 AM
"does He just have disproportionally small feet?
With other portions of the anatomy sized to match."
No that portion in relation to his body is microscopic. How else do you impregnate young middle-eastern virgins without tearing them to shreds.
Posted by: Slugsie | April 23, 2009 11:30 AM
Click, click, click, click, click. :)
Posted by: blueelm | April 23, 2009 11:32 AM
Does it really not care about multiple clicks? Because we have ways of clicking many times if that is so.
Posted by: Forodrim | April 23, 2009 11:33 AM
AntiVir says the site contains the JS/Dldr.agent.agr.1 Virus.
Be careful
Posted by: FirstTimeCaller
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April 23, 2009 11:36 AM
Hmmm... actually the video was quite enjoyable and I thought it was very well done -- except for the last 5 seconds or so, which completely went against the point that was (perhaps unintentionally) being made. We are but a dust speck in the vastness of the universe.
Posted by: Cosmic Teapot
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April 23, 2009 11:36 AM
Footstool!
Wait until god uses the earth as a space hopper!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_hopper
Posted by: blueelm | April 23, 2009 11:37 AM
I was just talking with a co-worker about this. Super X-ian sties and fundie sites seem to have the most amazing amount of viruses. Lots of them. You'd think it's just the porn sites, but no. Not at all.
Posted by: Humanistic Jones
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April 23, 2009 11:41 AM
So if the earth is god's footstool. Take into account that the footstool in my house is about 1/6th my height and the result is that god is 76537.2 miles tall... making him 5.06x10^-5 times the height of VV Cephei. Pretty small god if you ask me.
Posted by: Daniel Pope | April 23, 2009 11:42 AM
The archives contain the future posts? Ok, maybe they don't understand evolution too good, but they certainly don't understand web usability.
Posted by: bunnycatch3r
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April 23, 2009 11:43 AM
Eric really doesn't have the presence that his old man has.
Kent could tell you that the Earth is flat and have everyone believe it. However, great visuals but compared to Sagan's pale blue dot I thought they had the Earth coming off a tad too big.
Posted by: mostlywater | April 23, 2009 11:43 AM
I have decloaked to do your nefarious bidding. Good Luck.
Posted by: Furious_Six_Claws_Mcgee | April 23, 2009 11:44 AM
I'll support this only if you make a video of you deleting all the creationist videos off the ipod then show you replacing it with pro evolution videos.
Posted by: Hauntedchippy | April 23, 2009 11:45 AM
Damn those production values ain't half bad.
Posted by: Matt Heath | April 23, 2009 11:50 AM
It's some weird variation on "Solidarity Forever" right?Posted by: Outsider
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April 23, 2009 11:52 AM
That's a well designed website! Kind of makes me sick that a legitimate web designer would stoop to designing that for them but whatever pays the bills I guess.
Posted by: Peterd102
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April 23, 2009 11:52 AM
The video makes a good point, but one that science has been making for ages. Why do fundies steal our good ideas, do they not have any good ideas of their own?*
*Note to fundies, that was sarcastic.
Posted by: Blaine | April 23, 2009 11:54 AM
I'm sorry. I think I'm lost.
Is this the website devoted to iMacros? The Firefox Macro extension?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3863
You know the one where you can record inputs into a browser and the set it to automatically perform the same task over and over again? It's the same extension that internet pranksters used to get Rick Astly MTV's Artist of the Millennium award.
If not, I'm terribly sorry for wasting your time.
Posted by: Victor
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April 23, 2009 11:55 AM
That's God's mysterious plan for us? To have us smell his stinky feet?!
Posted by: Dutchdoc
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April 23, 2009 12:03 PM
I watched that video.
WOW! It totally shattered my atheist views!
So, the universe is REALLY REALLY big?
WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN?
Where can I get baptized and turn in my 10% tithe?
(but let's be honest: technically, it WAS nicely done! Maybe next time he'll actually have a POINT?)
Posted by: a lurker | April 23, 2009 12:03 PM
I strongly suspect that the winner will be the person who is clearly not a non-creationist who generates the most traffic (and that is not assuming he just does not just send it to a buddy).
I just watched the video and my first reaction besides "I knew this by the third grade at the absolute latest" is that I don't think that the Earth is big enough to be a "footstool" anyways. I might as well toss a small fragment of a small grain of sand in front of my chair and call it a footstool. And of course, the very techniques that tell us the sizes of those stars make believing in a young universe absurd.
Well at least Mr. Hovind is not being a pathetic as someone else I once saw. Some years back, I was in a university football stadium and some idiot was telling a group of young kids that as awesome as the stadium was, it was nothing compared to God. I kid you not.
Posted by: Sherry
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April 23, 2009 12:06 PM
PZ -- you are NOT evil.
You are funny and charming!
Personally, I think the worst thing that could happen to a man is that he becomes boring.
PZ -- you are NOT boring!
Posted by: Scooty Puff, Jr. | April 23, 2009 12:06 PM
I really want PZ to win the iPod touch, too. Mostly because it's stuffed with creationist videos. I'd love to see a "2 Girls 1 Cup" style reaction video from PZ watching these nonsensical movies. Who's with me?
Posted by: Qwerty
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April 23, 2009 12:08 PM
According to Eric Hovind the earth is god's footstool. Wow! Who knew.
Posted by: shwu | April 23, 2009 12:09 PM
The contest mentions the prize will go to the "...visitor who logs the most unique clicks", so it's possible all the multiple clicking is for naught. Not sure about different browsers - depends on how they determine uniqueness. Don't expect it to be logical, though.
Posted by: flaq
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April 23, 2009 12:09 PM
What I love about that video is the way he is gleefully making exactly the opposite point of the one he intends.
"How big is big?"
Turns out to be not all that big, actually.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | April 23, 2009 12:14 PM
RBDC - Yes, it's over Angels & Demons.
PZ just said he's fairly outspoken... ha! Ha!
Posted by: agenoria
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April 23, 2009 12:17 PM
All I could think of when watching the video was...
"Space is big - really big - you just won't believe how vastly, hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
Posted by: Michael W Simpson
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April 23, 2009 12:20 PM
I did this for you PZ. I hope that website didn't leave some obnoxious Christian virus on my computer!
Posted by: Ric | April 23, 2009 12:24 PM
I'll do my part.
Posted by: Ranger_Rick
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April 23, 2009 12:26 PM
(click, click, click...while laughing hysterically)
Gaming the system again, PZ?
(click, click, click...)
Posted by: SteveM
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April 23, 2009 12:35 PM
from "Physics Show That Six Day Creation is Possible":
Which is the exact opposite of how time dialation works. We should see very little time passing for those distant, fast moving galaxies. Sheesh, if you're going to be a creationist, don't try to justify it with science, it just doesn't work and you'll look even more stupid.
Posted by: Dianne | April 23, 2009 12:40 PM
I get all these readers here, so I figure I might as well use you for personal gain.
Don't you already get paid by the viewing or the comment or something?
If you think I'm evil now, wait until you learn what I would plan to do with it, if I did win.
Nail it to a cracker and a copy of the Koran and toss them all in the trash?
Posted by: Shadow
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April 23, 2009 12:40 PM
I suppose that Hovind would use the argument that god can alter his size any way he wants, essentially getting to how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Posted by: SteveM
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April 23, 2009 12:41 PM
RBDC - Yes, it's over Angels & Demons.
And he's still pissed about The DaVinci Code. I am too, but only because Howard somehow took a fast paced book and turned it into a leaden snoozefest of a movie. Hope he doesn't do the same to A&D. [Neither were great books, but they were a fun ride]
Posted by: Shadow
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April 23, 2009 12:46 PM
PZ could upload the Cracker Desecration video. That should crease the creos.
Posted by: Lorkas | April 23, 2009 12:47 PM
There are no ads--click away!
Posted by: Evolving Squid
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April 23, 2009 12:48 PM
That's an excellent idea. The charity should be Richard Dawkins's foundation.
Posted by: No One Of Consequence | April 23, 2009 12:50 PM
Well we know xtians are opposed to using protection...
Posted by: Citizen of the Cosmos
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April 23, 2009 12:51 PM
All those special effects to promote primitive beliefs. Nice.
Posted by: Ahnald Brownshwagga the Monkey
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April 23, 2009 12:52 PM
I vote you nail the ipod touch to a cross, with a eucharist over it's screen and a yamaka nailed on top of the cross. Then, impale a bacon-wrapped Koran with the aforementioned cross. Then, douse the whole thing with sacramental wine and light it on fire, only to put out the fire with a steady stream of atheist urine. Finally, post to youtube, and title the video "A Rabbi, a Priest, and a Mullah Prove that God Exists".
Sit back and enjoy the flame wars. Link us when done, plz.
Posted by: Ahnald Brownshwagga the Monkey
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April 23, 2009 12:54 PM
or better title: "Eric Hovind gives P.Z. Myers a gift..."
Posted by: Matt Heath | April 23, 2009 12:54 PM
RBDC - Yes, it's over Angels & Demons.
The story about a macroscopic quantity of antimatter being stolen from CERN in an ordinary box?
I? agree? with? Bill Donahue?
Posted by: Dianne | April 23, 2009 12:54 PM
douse the whole thing with sacramental wine and light it on fire,
I'm not sure wine, sacramental or otherwise, has enough alcohol in it to ignite. You might want to spike it with vodka or lab alcohol or something.
Posted by: Ahnald Brownshwagga the Monkey
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April 23, 2009 1:00 PM
I wondered that too, Dianne...but there's only one way to find out.
Oooorrrrr we could put our creation in a manger made of straw and wood, and light the straw on fire while singing "Joy to the World."
Posted by: Bueller_007
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April 23, 2009 1:00 PM
This offer is coming from the same family with that fraudulent million dollar prize. Both of the parents are in prison for tax fraud. There is precisely ZERO chance that this iPod actually exists.
Posted by: tacitus
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April 23, 2009 1:03 PM
That link was worth clicking on even without the prospect of Hovind having to award PZ a prize.
The "God's footstool" line is a classic!
Posted by: Patricia, OM | April 23, 2009 1:05 PM
Donahue has his objections posted on the Catholic League web site.
Unfortunately he does catch Ron Howard getting his historical dates wrong.
Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2009 1:05 PM
I'm told, in child psychology, that the parents have very little influence on personality beyond sharing genetic traits. Influence comes from peers and environment. So, I guess I'm wondering if the dishonesty and stupidity is genetic or if the Hovind family keeps company with the dishonest and stupid... or both. In any event, let us hope the Hovind clan doesn't spread very much seed.
Posted by: Gruesome Rob | April 23, 2009 1:06 PM
That explains New Jersey
Posted by: llewelly | April 23, 2009 1:08 PM
Sign the ipod itouch. Raffle it off. It will be enormously desirable to your fans, as a symbol of our victory over Hovind. Then donate the proceeds to a deserving charity.Posted by: Evolving Squid
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April 23, 2009 1:12 PM
If one accepts that the Earth is God's footstool, a number of questions immediately spring to mind:
1. Why, exactly, does God have feet? It seems to me that some kind of magical cosmic being would have no particular use for feet. Gods, I thought, are supposed to float. Does God get "deity's foot"?
2. On what would those feet tread in the empty vacuum of space? One would expect to find God's footprints everywhere. In fact, the existence of God's feet should be a testable claim based on what we know of feet.
3. What is God's chair? Even the Bible talks about God's throne. If the Earth is his footstool, where and what is the chair? That God needs to sit implies that God, perhaps, has an arse. If he has an arse, does he emanate, umm, "Divine Wind"? That puts a whole new spin on "kamikaze" don't you think?
4. If the Earth is a footstool, why does it move around in space? I'd be pretty pissed off if, every time I came home, my living room furniture had moved around all by itself. They made a movie that sort of had self-moving furniture, and it was creepy. If the Earth was MY footstool, I'd be fixing that orbital crap straight away. Maybe only part of the Earth is a footstool? The Ottoman Empire stands out as a likely candidate.
5. If the Earth is a footstool, what is the moon? Perhaps some sort of moving beer holder? Cruithne is that annoying little fly that you can never quite swat.
Posted by: Dave H | April 23, 2009 1:18 PM
Of course the ipod exists..... It's orbiting with the teapot.
So (an averagely proportioned) God is less than half the earth/moon distance tall? Kinda tiny compared to almost anything astronomical.
Posted by: Jochen Bedersdorfer | April 23, 2009 1:19 PM
Ouch, I did it. I became a fan of their facebook page and commented on their discussion site. *grabs chips and beer*
Posted by: Bunk | April 23, 2009 1:19 PM
Here's a similar video showing the earth compared to other objects in the universe. It goes a bit further than Hovind's, but his audience probably doesn't have a long enough attention span for 2.5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRU43nbVaz8
Posted by: Matt Heath | April 23, 2009 1:24 PM
Posted by: heather_eileen
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April 23, 2009 1:26 PM
I have the sudden urge to go around to all 200 or so computers in my college library and visit Pharyngula on each and every one...
Posted by: Owen | April 23, 2009 1:28 PM
I followed Mollywriter's link at #14. Judging by the photos, for Earth to be a comfy size as a footstool, God would have to be about the same size as Uranus. Hur hur...
Posted by: Matt Heath | April 23, 2009 1:29 PM
Erm I did put a responce to the text I quote. Nevermind wasn't that funny anyway
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 1:31 PM
I think Bueller here nails it.
If there isn't a disclaimer on that site about the "contest" I wouldn't be surprised if there will be soon.
Even without a disclaimer of some sort I doubt there is an ipod.
Posted by: BAllanJ | April 23, 2009 1:32 PM
Before you trash it, check out the content. I bet if you can play any of it backwards, there's a message from the devil :}
Posted by: Michelle | April 23, 2009 1:37 PM
Yeah, that bit with "The Bible says that the Earth is God's footstool. How big is your God?" is amusing.
So, let's work this out rationally.
Let's say God is the cosmic equivalent of 6'0" (a very patriarchal height), or 72". For him, a footstool should be about 18" tall. So, with a simple ratio, using the earth's diameter as height (equatorial, to be generous, at 7,926 miles), we get God's height at 31,704 miles.
Now, for the sake of argument, let's say my god is Apollo. The sun is his chariot, and judging by most pictures of chariots I've seem, I'd say the chariot would be about half the height of the man riding in it. The diameter of the sun is 865,000 miles. That means my god, Apollo, is 1,730,000 miles tall.
How do you say "PWNED" in Greek?
Posted by: Caligula | April 23, 2009 1:37 PM
"Each episode challenges the evolution theory and gives evidence of the Bible's historical and scientific accuracy."
I must have missed that part of the minute. And if the earth is so small doesn't that mean God's really small too?
Posted by: Sarah | April 23, 2009 1:39 PM
Clicked. Good luck! But aren't you slightly concerned with giving the Hovind's your address? I would be.
Posted by: Emmet, OM
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April 23, 2009 1:41 PM
Michelle #108,
Ah! You must be one of those sophisticated theologians I keep hearing about.
Posted by: Sherry
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April 23, 2009 1:42 PM
As my husband is in the IT business, we have two PCs and three laptops in the house. If I were to sign on to each, in both mozilla and the other one, can I get ten clicks a day for PZ?
Posted by: Evolving Squid
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April 23, 2009 1:47 PM
Did anyone else notice that disclaimer?
How, exactly, does God's footstool have any bearing on the ToE?
Posted by: Revyloution
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April 23, 2009 1:48 PM
I clicked. If you get the Ipod, I expect a detailed review of each video on the thing.
I also watched the video there. He quite accurately describes the size of the Earth, in relation to the other planets, the Sun, and to other supper massive stars.
Then comes the silly quote about footstools and thrones, meh.
My question, how does he accept that astronomers can measure the size of distant stars, but not accept the measured age of those stars?
The cognitive dissonance is painful to watch.
Posted by: Revyloution
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April 23, 2009 1:58 PM
Oh Sherry, I just noticed your comment above mine. You probably have a router in your home that has its own IP address. When you log onto a website with any computer connected to a router, the computers at the other end only recognize the router IP address, not the individual addresses assigned to the individual machines in your home.
If you took the laptops to local free access points around town, and logged on there, then you could vote from any of those IP addresses.
That is, unless they have a cookie authentication program. If thats the case, then you can game the system by flushing your cookies.
Posted by: hje
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April 23, 2009 2:03 PM
Ok, Hovind: Can God make multiverses so infinite in number (aleph-omega universes) that he can't fill them with his immanence?
Posted by: Sherry
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April 23, 2009 2:05 PM
Thank you Revyloution. I'm off to the coffee shop with three laptops! He he he.
Posted by: DiscoveredJoys | April 23, 2009 2:12 PM
Is the footstool on the back of an elephant, which stands on the back of a gigantic turtle? Or is it footstools all the way down?
Posted by: Hockey Bob | April 23, 2009 2:12 PM
Let me guess - if you win, are you giving it to Kwok?
Posted by: Patricia, OM | April 23, 2009 2:25 PM
Michelle explaining something rationally...
How do you say
Idiot
in Greek?Posted by: Andrew | April 23, 2009 2:26 PM
(Pointing at tiny, tiny Earth) "That's the Earth. Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn't it?"
Oh, why, yes, Mr. Hovind, it shows how insignificant we are to the Universe; that we can't be the sole focus of the Creator of said Universe. You seem to have a very sensible head on your shoulders; I guess you inherited it from your mother. Oh, please, continue....
"Which is why God says in Isaiah...."
Oh, fuck you.
Seriously, the jackass is standing on a green screen set using technology created through science, not prayer, to point out the massive insignificance of Earth compared to planets and stars that weren't even known to be orbs to the ancient nomads who wrote his precious snot-rag of a book and this all still proves his precious snot-rag of a book is the inspired Word of the Creator of the Universe?!
It's like he took a paragraph from Carl Sagan (stripped of all writing genius), and then tacked on "therefore: God" to the end of it.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | April 23, 2009 2:33 PM
pffffft says you. He told me via mind to mind prayer that he created that by kneeling undisturbed for 4 hours.
Posted by: Physicalist | April 23, 2009 2:41 PM
Boy, there's some weapons-grade crazy over there.
Look out physicists; the creationists are coming after you next:
Posted by: dahduh | April 23, 2009 4:02 PM
That was quite a nice bit of video; rather well done, I thought. With cool information about astronomy from astronomers, and cool graphics using the latest in technology. And surrounded by these spinning marvels, what does Hovind bring to the show?
"The earth is God's footstool", he declares.
The bible also says something about casting pearls before swine, so it's not entirely fascicle.
Posted by: Buzz | April 23, 2009 4:08 PM
Please post every day so my aggregator picks it up.
Posted by: Kevin In Philadelphia | April 23, 2009 4:09 PM
Maybe I just don't get it, but what is the point of that video? Was there supposed to be some premise of proving creationism? All I got was "Earth is small. Other planets are big. Stars are even bigger. Oh, and god uses the earth as an ottoman." WTF?
Posted by: Xenithrys | April 23, 2009 4:36 PM
Imagine if Eric Hovind claims scientific respectability because 50,000 people from all over the world visited his site, mostly from .edu and .ac domains.
Posted by: Jason A.
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April 23, 2009 4:39 PM
Read as: my dad can beat up your dad.
Posted by: Emmet, OM
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April 23, 2009 4:41 PM
I don't think his scientific respectability is enhanced by having a lot of visitors from Ascension Island.
Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2009 4:54 PM
@87:
Now that-thar's funny, I don't care where y'all come from.
Posted by: Rachel D. | April 23, 2009 4:57 PM
Is this the doofus (I thought of another D word, but settled on doofus to keep your G rating... ;-) with the banana argument? OMG, I can just see him all pissed off, sending you an iPod Touch.
Good thing you'll be deleting those "creation videos" that will be polluting the drive when he sends it to you...
Posted by: Emmet, OM
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April 23, 2009 5:03 PM
Douchebag? Dickhead?
:o)
Posted by: drworm01 | April 23, 2009 5:10 PM
I was going to say "Give the iPod to me" a la Sam Kinison and "the story." I'd fill it with blues and swing since I'm trying to learn how to dance. It's part of my evil plan to do very un-xtian things with young women. Things like treat them with respect, do what they want to do and make their enjoyment of the evening a priority.
But the charity thing sounds like such a better idea though. Unless you're inclined to see my social life as a charity case. If there's a free iPod involved, I won't disabuse you of that notion.
Posted by: Barry | April 23, 2009 5:17 PM
A footstool ay? Who would be so petty and unimaginative to assume that their god has "feet". I assume their god has a prostate gland and light colored skin too.
Posted by: Seraphiel | April 23, 2009 5:43 PM
If you do win, I hope you will auction it off and donate the proceeds to a pro-science organization.
Perhaps a poll to decide which one... But then, it being an internet poll, you'd have to suggest that the readers swarm it.
Posted by: Holbach
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April 23, 2009 6:16 PM
Anonymous (Socraticgodfly) @ 95
I was deliberating whether to make a poignant remark at your post but decided not to unduly rile the other posters with unnecessary and diverting banter.
Posted by: mandrake | April 23, 2009 6:22 PM
"the soul of Time His slave,"
What is that even *supposed* to mean?
Time has a soul? does that mean it can be saved and/or end up in Hell? And if it's "God's slave," does that mean God sends it around to do stuff?
Weird, anthropomorphized version of a human-constructed interpretation of the universe based on our limited perception...
wait, that sounds familiar.
Never mind.
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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April 23, 2009 6:55 PM
<creiPod link> *click*
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VY Canis Majoris is barely enough of a footstool for one of my gods:Dr. Dino, Jr. sez,
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φωηεδ.@Michelle, [#108],
Posted by: Steve Ulven | April 23, 2009 7:10 PM
If, by some odd circumstance, you do get the iPod Touch, you're going to have to instantly jailbreak it. Not only will that wipe the creationist videos away, it'll unlock the iPod to a wonderful world of possibilities inhibited by the Apple Store.
Posted by: Kagato
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April 23, 2009 8:21 PM
#87:
"That's a hell of an act. What do you call it?"
#138:
I am so saving that for future use.
Posted by: sondra | April 23, 2009 8:48 PM
PZ, I can't bring myself to do it because since he's a scam artist of the first magnitude, you'll never get the ipod and I'll have to go to his site and hold my nose until I can x out of it.
Posted by: Anon | April 23, 2009 8:51 PM
Works better visually than phonetically...
Posted by: Quinx | April 23, 2009 8:54 PM
hmmm something about being a small footstool, well now i'm convinced. i cant wait for more science to be twisted into creationism
Posted by: MadScientist | April 23, 2009 9:01 PM
Is that it? You just have to be the referring site? We don't need to be Hovinized and fill in any forms? I just want to make sure I wasn't missing anything; I want you to win your iPod.
Posted by: Unstrung Photo | April 23, 2009 9:07 PM
from the (erichovind) Twitter feed:
"# reading PZ Myers Blog about our new Creation Minute! http://scienceblogs.com/pha...
about 7 hours ago from web "
I think he is on to you PZ! :P
Posted by: Voldemort13
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April 23, 2009 11:27 PM
There is no way I am going to help you win an Ipod, Oh shit I already clicked it.
Posted by: Jeff S | April 24, 2009 12:16 AM
@14
I can't properly comprehend how big some of those stars are or how amazing it is that we can see things from so so so so so long ago.
Posted by: John Noble | April 24, 2009 12:28 AM
Wow. It astonishes me how they can show you (really rather well, to be honest - I liked the first 50 seconds of this video) the scale of the Earth to stars and whatnot - which to me makes me go "whoa, how cool is the universe!" - then at the end they just go...
..."and in this book, someone wrote that it's a stool, so god is real".
And that's the end. And they're happy. And. Er.
What?
Posted by: Michelle | April 24, 2009 12:29 AM
Emmet, Patricia... do you guys recognize sarcasm?
I was mocking the "footstool" comment on that webpage by showing just how ridiculous their "the earth is God's footstool" comment is. They talk about their ridiculous ancient myth, so I pulled out another one for comparison. Seriously.
Me? A theologian? Not hardly. I'm a biologist who just happens to have a pet fondness for ancient mythology, and a sarcastic streak when it comes to bitch-slapping arrogant Christians who think their mythology somehow magically trumps everyone else's ancient fairy tales. They're still all fairy tales... but it's really fun mocking one person's fairy tale with another.
That's all that is.
Posted by: Zeno
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April 24, 2009 1:09 AM
Hmm. Why is it that Eric styles himself as "Mr. Hovind"? Didn't he learn from his father how easy it is to get a "doctorate"?
Posted by: Leigh Williams | April 24, 2009 1:31 AM
Yessir, Tentacled Overlord! The noxious video is happily playing away in a minimized window, with the speaker turned off.
Even for you, I'm not going to listen to that shit.
Posted by: Dale | April 24, 2009 1:35 AM
It's ok Michelle - I knew you were joking...
Posted by: Nine | April 24, 2009 5:37 AM
"Some things are big, therefore God exists!"
Totally convinced me.
Posted by: katchaya
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April 24, 2009 9:02 AM
a nice biology song to go on the iPod....
Amoeba by the Adolescents (who are all middle aged adults now, lol, but they still rock!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-RO_y1zoTY
Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2009 12:06 PM
I'd love to see the look on their faces when they find out they have to send an iPod to PZ. That is, if they actually keep their word.
Posted by: Svlad | April 24, 2009 12:14 PM
Oops, that last post was meant to be attributed to me...
Posted by: Tyson | April 24, 2009 12:48 PM
Drat, PZ, now I'm really conflicted. After watching that video, I'm finding Eric Hovind is "teh cuuuute". I wonder if that's encoded in my moral DNA.
Please only post videos of cute atheist boiz. ;)
Posted by: PeteK
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April 24, 2009 5:02 PM
Notice how they agree with the science that doesn't challenge their literalism...
Posted by: Calilasseia | April 24, 2009 7:07 PM
Perhaps we can recruit the /b/tards who manipulated Time magazine's Top 100 Influential People poll to engage in a little ... rearrangement. Perhaps arrange the clickthrough websites to be listed in order, so that from winner downwards, the first letter of the websites spells out "posterboy for creationist stupidity".
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove
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April 24, 2009 7:16 PM
It will not be difficult, Mein Fuhrer!
Posted by: NoFear | April 25, 2009 5:01 AM
From the site: "The Bible says that the Earth is God's footstool. How big is your God?"
Viewing god in the only way I know how, in the pantheistic sense of course, how big is my god? Orders of infinite magnitude bigger than that. To my god, the earth is but the tiniest speck of dust ... if even that ... more likely barely a quark.
Posted by: Tubagus Rusmawan | April 25, 2009 9:46 PM
Thanks for this post, my friend will be so exciting to check this. I really appreciate your work over here.
Posted by: Alan | May 23, 2009 10:19 PM
The iPod is filled with Creationist videos. Hovind videos no doubt. You'd have to have it sanitized in a Bessemer converter before you touched it!
Posted by: Mutt | June 17, 2009 6:23 AM
So... dude, did you win? I clicked a buncha times. :)
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