…and this is a 
I don't drink caffeinated beverages anymore (I gave them up when I converted to Mormonism1) so it's easy for me to refuse to give Coca Cola any more of my business, but this news may cause more distress to others: Coca Cola is a corporate partner with the Creation "Museum". Ken Ham can brag about this meaningless exploitation of his suckers "museum" attendees for profit, but I doubt that Coke wants to trumpet this news — it looks like they're sponsoring stupidity.
I don't know that there is much point to protesting the association anyway. If Coke pulled out, you know the local Pepsi distributors would jump in to offer a contract, and then Ken Ham would proudly point to their deal as somehow vindicating their existence.
At least now we self-sacrificing, noble, healthier deniers of sugary caffeinated toxins can add a new level of sanctimony to our denunciations of Coca Cola's consumers by pointing out that they are stooges of creationism, as well.2
(via Bing McGhandi)
1Psych.
2It's our only pleasure left. When my wife fixes her cup of coffee in the morning, the smell wafts my way and I just want to leap over and swallow her cup, hand, and forearm in one big gulp.
Want to complain to Coca Cola? Go here.
Comments
Posted by: LtStorm
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June 10, 2009 11:36 AM
This is why I drink Pepsi!
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | June 10, 2009 11:36 AM
So just what is holding you back from being a cannibal?
'snark'
Posted by: Ouchimoo | June 10, 2009 11:40 AM
Yeah I already stopped drinking pop 'heh' a long time ago. I suppose it would be hard for me to boycott them now, wouldn't it.
Posted by: ctenotrish | June 10, 2009 11:45 AM
I have very nearly weened myself off of colas, except for the one that I love the best. Coke. Real coke, not diet, not caffeine free . . . . Ahhhhhh! Oh I will miss coke. :( Stupid sponsor, stupid museum. Grrrrr.
Posted by: ERV | June 10, 2009 11:46 AM
This is hysterical-- This means they signed a contract with Coke saying they will only sell Coke products, so Coke gives them a discount.
Thats it.
Contract that says only us-->discount.
Coke isnt 'supporting' the Creation museum. Theyre just taking TARD money, not really 'giving' Ham anything they dont offer everyone else. But Ham is so desperate for 'support' hes even looking to carbonated sugar water for an argument from authority.
ROFL!
Posted by: caffeine | June 10, 2009 11:47 AM
sure they would go for pepsi? pepsi supports equal rights for glbt.
Posted by: tsg | June 10, 2009 11:47 AM
They have a deal to sell Coke in the snack bar. I don't think that this tantamount to "sponsoring stupidity".
Posted by: Arnold T Pants | June 10, 2009 11:48 AM
Was Kool-Aid not available?
I would be sad is Pepsi was a sponsor. Wild Cherry Diet Pepsi might be a better invention than antibiotics. Well, almost.
Posted by: BeccaTheCyborg | June 10, 2009 11:49 AM
Well drat. Coke tasted better with rum. Ah well, store brand for me then.
Posted by: druidbros
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June 10, 2009 11:51 AM
I got off the carbonated sugar train a long time ago. HFCS is just one of the many reasons we as a country are so fat. This is just another reason I know I made the right decision.
Posted by: Sabrina | June 10, 2009 11:58 AM
I'm too addicted to Diet Coke to give it up :( In fact, I'm drinking one right now.
Posted by: RamblinDude
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June 10, 2009 11:58 AM
I, too, have had to give up coffee, at least on a regular basis. I don’t handle the caffeine very well. It tends to coat my vocal chords (or something) and I spend hours clearing my throat afterwards! Crap! I love my espresso!
As for carbonation, I drink soft drinks only rarely, anyway—but Coke beats Pepsi!
Posted by: Lynna | June 10, 2009 12:01 PM
Damnit, Coke! Don't be giving Ken Ham free umbrellas and whatnot! And yes, you can sell coke wherever you please, but don't let the Creation Museum advertise you as a "partner" -- I'm not buying Coke if you persist. You've lost this customer. At least get rid of the umbrellas and the website ads claiming you support the idiocy of Ken Ham.
Or...wait...maybe you want all the Creation kiddies damaging their teeth and overall health by drinking too much Coke? I visited Kansas once and saw parents putting coke in baby's bottles. Suffer in this life, get to Heaven sooner?
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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June 10, 2009 12:06 PM
Coca-Cola, for the anti-scientist in you.
Or--
At Coke, we refuse good science. Don't you want our products?
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/6mb592
Posted by: Scooty Puff, Jr. | June 10, 2009 12:07 PM
I assumed from the headline that this was a post about cocaine, which is also for creationist cretins if you remember your history of the 1980's.
Posted by: Sarpedon | June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
I fail to see the significance of this. They are simply selling their product at a place that sells food, and putting up umbrellas to advertise that fact.
Posted by: Mike | June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
There are far better reasons to boycott Coke. http://www.killercoke.org/
Pepsi, on the other hand, is a big supporter of LGBT Pride parades. I know what I'd rather buy.
Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
I get my caffeine in pill form like God intended. Or something.
Posted by: Michelle R
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June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
I'll stick with my tea. I can't stand carbonated drinks anyway.
I'm just glad my family drinks Pepsi though. Even though it's absolutely GROSS.
Posted by: James F | June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
NOOOOOOO!!!!!
Posted by: Jyotsana | June 10, 2009 12:10 PM
I don't usually buy Coke because more often than not it gives me a headache. I've never understood why. No other pop does it to me, and even other incarnations of Coke (Cherry Coke, for example) won't give me headaches. Just plain ol' regular Coke.
Posted by: Mike | June 10, 2009 12:13 PM
I'll use this news to further validate my choice for favorite sugary drink. Hooray Pepsi!
Posted by: Ouchimoo | June 10, 2009 12:14 PM
XD
Posted by: Ranson | June 10, 2009 12:14 PM
Didn't we have this "superior soda" discussion over at erv last week?
I think we all agreed on Jolt*, but that could just be the caffeine talking**.
* We didn't.
** It is.
Posted by: Ouchimoo | June 10, 2009 12:17 PM
HAHAH whoops. Somehow everything In my post got removed except that stupid little text face. Greater-than/less-than symbols are EVIL!
Posted by: Celtic_Evolution | June 10, 2009 12:17 PM
Have to agree with EV and some others here... the link you provide is from AIG... of COURSE they are going to turn this into propoganda and make it appear as if the Coca Cola company supports their whack job museum.
Coke has literally hundreds of thousands of exclusivity deals with all manner of businesses and institutions. Calling them a "corporate partner" is a stretch, I think... in fact a search for "Creation Museum" on the Coca-cola website turned up nothing.
I think AIG is over-selling this one, PZ... don't buy into it.
Posted by: mikespeir | June 10, 2009 12:17 PM
Sorry, I'm sticking with Diet Coke, regardless. It's not that I'm an addict. I can drop it any time....
Posted by: uncle frogy | June 10, 2009 12:21 PM
I think it is the opposite, just another data point in the subversion of everything by the Vast evil that is the CocaCola corp. in their plan to be the dominate entity in the none alcoholic beverage space world wide to include all 400 brands and be our supplier of all drinks including water.
the creation museum has just just given in to corpatism.
Coke does not "care" about anything but their self interest, profit!
Posted by: Keith M | June 10, 2009 12:22 PM
Pharyngula is now the Consumerist. What a ridiculous overreaction. Do you really think that everyone at a huge multi-national corporation like Coca-Cola was consulted on this deal? One marketing/sales person at one distributor probably approved this. That is all.
If you show me that Coca-Cola has it in their mission statement to support creationist nonsense, that's one thing. Until then it's nothing to worry about. And Pepsi sucks. So I'll keep drinking Coke until the day I die.
Posted by: Robert | June 10, 2009 12:23 PM
I used to be moderately addicted to Coca-Cola Classic.
But as i turned 40 this passed October I soon suspected that I was developing symptoms that suggested a diabetic condition I have all but CUT unnecessary sugars like soft drinks out of my diet as much as possible
Perhaps this little article will make it easier for me to turn my back on Coke. Incidentally, Pepsi is no substitute for Coke. ;-)
"HFCS is just one of the many reasons we as a country are so fat."
I have heard this so many times but I can find nothing that documents why HFCS is any more of a danger than standard cane sugar.
Can someone provide a reputable science-based citation?
Robert
Otter River, Mass.
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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June 10, 2009 12:25 PM
Having checked out the link, yeah, I agree with those who say it's almost nothing. I do think that Coke would do well to get them to tone it down, but seriously, they're selling and advertising, that's all.
What really struck me at the link was the "museum's" slogan, "Prepare to believe." It sounds like Orwell's 1984, without the subtlety.
I mean, a real museum says "get ready to learn," or more sappily, "get ready for an adventure." Not the equivalent of "we'll help you close down your mind."
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/6mb592
Posted by: littlejohn | June 10, 2009 12:26 PM
After analyzing their respective morphologies, I conclude Coca-Cola and Pepsi share a recent common anscestor. Some have even suggested they are mere subspecies. An example of god-approved micro-evolution.
Posted by: Keith M | June 10, 2009 12:26 PM
Pharyngula is now the Consumerist. What a ridiculous overreaction. Do you really think that everyone at a huge multi-national corporation like Coca-Cola was consulted on this deal? One marketing/sales person at one distributor probably approved this. That is all.
If you show me that Coca-Cola has it in their mission statement to support creationist nonsense, that's one thing. Until then it's nothing to worry about. And Pepsi sucks. So I'll keep drinking Coke until the day I die.
Posted by: Kawa | June 10, 2009 12:27 PM
I'm with KeithM. *loud burp*
Posted by: Russell | June 10, 2009 12:28 PM
Everyone knows Pepsi is Republican.
Posted by: PZ Myers
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June 10, 2009 12:33 PM
Someday, some people will actually read what I wrote. From " I doubt that Coke wants to trumpet this news" to my statement that there's no point to protesting this marketing stuff, I did not advocate any kind of boycott or imply that Coke was sponsoring creationism...and I even made a joke about chastising people for drinking coke.
Oh, well.
Posted by: Interrobang | June 10, 2009 12:37 PM
Canadian Pepsi tastes like boiled ass. Since I have a mild caffeine metabolism and continuing to drink Coke is easier than enduring withdrawl (multi-day migraines and a month of fatigue suck), I don't care who they've got contracts with.
That said, US Coke tastes like boiled rotten ass, particularly the stuff that comes from Detroit and upstate NY. I suspect water quality issues and a distinct lack of sugar that doesn't come from corn. (Yuck.)
Posted by: gaypaganunitarianagnostic | June 10, 2009 12:46 PM
All the talk of Coke and Pepsi aroused a desire for Dr. Pepper. My soft drink of choice. Originated in Texas, I believe
Posted by: Ouchimoo | June 10, 2009 12:46 PM
PZ, some people actually read what you wrote. Some of us are just being silly in regard to what you wrote.
Posted by: Stephanie W. | June 10, 2009 12:47 PM
Now this is why I drink only rain water and grain alcohol.
Also, an explanation for the disturbing number of creationists I've met on Emory's campus? They've fluoridated the Dasani, it seems.
Posted by: LMR
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June 10, 2009 12:51 PM
The woman (2nd person from left) in the picture:
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/museum/pictures/coke-partners-6-20-07-022.jpg
looks like she has a tattoo on her shoulder. Doesn't Leviticus (19:28) have something to say about that?
Or are they only supposed to interpret the old testament *literally* when it comes to saddle-wearing, fruit-eating, boat-riding dinosaurs.
Posted by: Watchman | June 10, 2009 12:54 PM
PZ, I gave up caffeine (and aspartame, and sodas in general) a year ago. Don't underestimate the pleasure to be had in a cup of hot decaf now and then. All the flavor, yet without the annoying jitters, the inevitable caffeine crash, or the long-term drug addiction.
I'm getting a Gomez-and-Morticia thing here. Forearm adoration at its steamiest!
Posted by: Sophie Hirschfeld | June 10, 2009 12:55 PM
I don't think that buying a coke product makes me a stooge of creationism anymore than buying a Navajo Blanket makes me honor the Great Spirit or staying at the Marriott makes me Mormon.
Posted by: Sili
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June 10, 2009 12:58 PM
I ended up drinking so much coffee at work that I switched to buying more expensive 'proper' coffee for the weekends.
Of course, now I'm out of work ...
Still, so far I've managed to restrain myself and settle for tea. (Lot's of it, though.) To my surprise I haven't had any caffeïne headaches this time.
I still can't get up in the mornings, though. I seem to be more of a stick than carrot kinda guy.
That said, why the hell have you given up coffee?! What a ridiculous idea! It's not like it's hard to avoid the stupid brand. I hope the trophee wife does her best to make the coffee smell sweeter than usual. And deliberately blows it your way.
Posted by: Benjamin Geiger | June 10, 2009 1:01 PM
The only time I take a side in the Cola Wars is when liquor is involved. Pepsi with liquor just tastes wrong.
That being said, I really like the Throwback variants of Pepsi products. I wish they'd keep them around longer. (I don't think there's a nutritional difference between Throwback and the stock variants, but Throwback just tastes better. Maybe they did more than just replace HFCS with sugar?)
Posted by: longstreet
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June 10, 2009 1:06 PM
Having decided I weighed too much, I dropped a lifelong Coke Classic habit last year for a single daily Coke Zero for caffeine and switched to Diet Rite Pure Zero tangerine. Splenda flavored and tastes like Faygo Orange.
Lost 50 pounds so far and still get my fizzy beverage fix.
And it's made by those other guys, Dr. Pepper/Snapple (Schweps-cadbury) so I can look with superiority on all of you Two-Soft-Drink-System drones.
Posted by: Rick | June 10, 2009 1:06 PM
If you want to tell Coke what you think, you can use this link:
WWW.COKESUBMIT.COM
Posted by: Corey S
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June 10, 2009 1:07 PM
Haven't right wing groups tried to boycotting Coke on social issues and sponsoring?
Posted by: Moebius | June 10, 2009 1:07 PM
Another reason not to drink the foul bubbly liquid: Coke is the Drink of the Death Squads (hilarious music video!)
Posted by: natural cynic | June 10, 2009 1:09 PM
Robert:
I have heard this so many times but I can find nothing that documents why HFCS is any more of a danger than standard cane sugar.
Can someone provide a reputable science-based citation?
IIRC - the HFCS used in soft drinks is a 55:45 mix of fructose:glucose. Pure fructose produces slightly more triglycerides than the equivalent amount of glucose, but since they are close to equal in quantity, it may only be marginally more lipogenic. But both can contribute to weight gain, especially since there has been some research to suggest that the brain perceives liquid sugar calories as less than the same amount of sugar in solid food.
Diet beverages aren't that much help because the brain perceives the sweetness of artificial sweeteners, but it also doesn't sense caloric intake, causing an overeating response.
I stay away from regular soft drinks unless I'm hypoglycemic [I'm diabetic] and I like both Vanilla Diet Pepsi and Coke. Or, since I'm cheap - the generic diet stuff with a little added pure vanilla [cheap at Costco].
Posted by: ocminimoto | June 10, 2009 1:13 PM
Don't you know, coffee is the fourth food group.
Anyway this is about the stupidest rant I've seen on you site. And if the museum is making hay with coke they are even stupider.
Something with a little more substance please.
Posted by: Liam | June 10, 2009 1:13 PM
#10 & #30, check out the latest skeptoid.com for the science behind the overblown HFCS fear.
Posted by: Steve Caldwell | June 10, 2009 1:14 PM
Given the demographic for the museum, one would think that an RC Cola sponsorship for the Creationism Museum would be a natural one (especially if there was a Moon Pie sponsorship to go with it).
Posted by: Qwerty
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June 10, 2009 1:14 PM
I'll boycott the museum, but I can't give up my caffeine delivery system which is Diet Coke. *hand shakes from over caffeination*
Posted by: Liam | June 10, 2009 1:16 PM
#10 & #30, check out the latest skeptoid.com for the science behind the overblown HFCS fear.
Posted by: Justin | June 10, 2009 1:19 PM
I gave up drinking pop (soda) during lent my eight grade year (I was still a practicing catholic at the time), and have stuck with it (having just finished my junior year of high school). While weight gain was never a problem for me, I have cut quite a lot of calories that have no accompanying nutritional benefit out of my diet. However, I have become quite the caffeine addict through the increasingly popular route of energy drinks (although I doubt all of the sucralose can be doing anything good).
Posted by: Porky Pine | June 10, 2009 1:22 PM
My life hasn't been the same since I've found my new love.
[url=http://www.beveragesdirect.com/products/boylans/]Boylan Bottleworks Soda[/url]
No HFCS and thick glass bottles. I recommend the Orange soda.
Now whenever I taste Coke or Pepsi, I get sick.
Posted by: Justin | June 10, 2009 1:22 PM
I gave up drinking pop (soda) during lent my eight grade year (I was still a practicing catholic at the time), and have stuck with it (having just finished my junior year of high school). While weight gain was never a problem for me, I have cut quite a lot of calories that have no accompanying nutritional benefit out of my diet. However, I have become quite the caffeine addict through the increasingly popular route of energy drinks (although I doubt all of the sucralose can be doing anything good).
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | June 10, 2009 1:26 PM
Dammit Steve Caldwell! You made me look up RC Cola And Moon Pie by NRBQ but I could not find it.
Posted by: mk | June 10, 2009 1:27 PM
Do you have a medical condition that prevents you from drinking coffee? Why would anyone stop voluntarily?
Posted by: RickD
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June 10, 2009 1:30 PM
Coke is also sold at the Natural History Museum.
Pepsi, OTOH, is sold in Communist China.
We report, you decide.
Posted by: Deacon Barry | June 10, 2009 1:39 PM
Drink Irn Bru. Guaranteed creationist free.
Posted by: Naughtius Maximus | June 10, 2009 1:41 PM
Expensive woo
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_he_me/us_med_unproven_remedies_research
Posted by: Naughtius Maximus | June 10, 2009 1:43 PM
Expensive woo
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_he_me/us_med_unproven_remedies_research
Posted by: Steve13 | June 10, 2009 1:46 PM
How about we start a petition for Coke to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the theory of evolution by natural selection by putting Charles Darwin's face on the can. That way the Creation Museum would be obliged to sell it, seeing that they are so proud of there business arrangement with Coke.
Posted by: Keith M | June 10, 2009 1:49 PM
Pharyngula is now the Consumerist. What a ridiculous overreaction. Do you really think that everyone at a huge multi-national corporation like Coca-Cola was consulted on this deal? One marketing/sales person at one distributor probably approved this. That is all.
If you show me that Coca-Cola has it in their mission statement to support creationist nonsense, that's one thing. Until then it's nothing to worry about. And Pepsi sucks. So I'll keep drinking Coke until the day I die.
Posted by: Berlzebub | June 10, 2009 1:49 PM
From the blog link:
As someone who lives in "the area", I'm wondering what "area" they are referring to. I'm actually thinking it's Northern Kentucky, which isn't saying much.
If they're talking about the Greater Cincinnati area, I would find the claim suspect. Kings Island, which is also in the Greater Cincinnati area, brings in many more tourists.
Posted by: Berlzebub | June 10, 2009 1:54 PM
Now that I think about it, perhaps King's Island has a contract with Pepsi products.
Posted by: Keith M | June 10, 2009 1:55 PM
Whoops, boy did I screw up with at least three posts, my bad.
Posted by: Ouchimoo | June 10, 2009 2:15 PM
That is the most ingenious idea I have ever heard!
Posted by: Fedor Steeman | June 10, 2009 2:18 PM
Sorry, that is just too thin a basis for me to drop my dependency on the only sugary, caffeinated, sparkling liquid that tastes properly and gets me through the day. :-)
I have 3 young kids, you know... and I hate coffee! And Pepsi tastes disguisting...
Posted by: Jadehawk, OM
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June 10, 2009 2:19 PM
I've stopped drinking Coke (and Pepsi) when I moved to the States, because HFCS is vile.
Now I've discovered Jones Soda, and am completely addicted to the stuff. Their cola is awesome, and it's made with sugar; and they're not the evil empire :-p
Posted by: Lilith | June 10, 2009 2:23 PM
Deacon Barry @#62
Somehow I can't bring myself to take up drinking something that looks like rusty water and taste like it looks. Yes, I did try it once after reading too many Ian Rankin books.
I was busy congratulating myself for recently weaning off Coke and drinking plain sparkling mineral water instead, until I googled and discovered Coca Cola Amitil also make the brand of water I drink. Dammit.
Posted by: Knockgoats | June 10, 2009 2:24 PM
Damn! Since I never drink the vile stuff, I can't boycott it.
Posted by: Bing | June 10, 2009 2:30 PM
Thanks for the link, PZ! May Shatner's merciful waffles fill your belly.
For the record, I have not gone 3 hours without a caffeine-free diet pepsi for the last...well, graduate school.
Steve13
How about we start a petition for Coke to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the theory of evolution by natural selection by putting Charles Darwin's face on the can.
That is awesome. Oh, if we had only known several fiscal quarters ago!
HJ
Posted by: Bing | June 10, 2009 2:33 PM
Thanks for the link, PZ! May Shatner's merciful waffles fill your belly.
For the record, I have not gone 3 hours without a caffeine-free diet pepsi for the last...well, graduate school.
Steve13
How about we start a petition for Coke to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the theory of evolution by natural selection by putting Charles Darwin's face on the can.
That is awesome. Oh, if we had only known several fiscal quarters ago!
HJ
Posted by: Die Anyway | June 10, 2009 2:37 PM
PZ, some of us do read for content. I figured out right away that you were just poking fun at the situation.
re: "Or, since I'm cheap - the generic diet stuff with a little added pure vanilla"
Yeah, me too. I prefer real Coca Cola brand, even the diet stuff, and I don't care who they sell it to but when the price went to $1.79 - $1.99 per 2 liter bottle I switched to store brand (Publix) at .79 per bottle. It doesn't taste as good but a little lemon juice or vanilla extract covers that up. Or a big slug of JB or JD. (the fisherman's friend, Beam & Coke).
Posted by: recovering catholic | June 10, 2009 2:46 PM
Tell me you didn't have to give up chocolate too, PZ!!!
http://www.didntyouhear.com/2007/02/15/squid-taste-great-covered-in-chocolate/
Posted by: Tim H | June 10, 2009 2:55 PM
As long as the Creotard Museum doesn't start selling Pete's Wicked Ale, I'm in good shape.
Posted by: DaveH | June 10, 2009 2:56 PM
I'm with Deacon Barry at #62!
I've heard it said (and I repeat it with some pride, if true) that Scotland is the only nation where Coke is not the best-selling carbonated beverage, where it's available.
Barr's Irn Bru, your other national drink!
Posted by: Ranson | June 10, 2009 3:07 PM
Jones Soda is hit and miss, but when they hit, it's liquid gold. The diet Green Apple is the best soda I've ever had. Regular Cream Soda, on the other hand, is like pouring liquid cotton candy down my throat, and actually caused a gag reflex the one time I tried it.
Posted by: Brian X | June 10, 2009 3:14 PM
The Russian Tea HOWTO refers to Coke as "canned capitalism".
I don't drink Russian tea, but i have a printout of the HOWTO as part of my cookbook collection. It's an awesome document.
Posted by: Ryan | June 10, 2009 3:20 PM
I'm a Pepsi drinker anyway.
Posted by: Aquaria | June 10, 2009 3:29 PM
I had to give up all drinks that contain phosphoric acid. My kidneys go insane if I have any of it at all. It didn't bother me to give up Coke, but Dr. Pepper--that was tough.
Now I have to read labels to see what does or doesn't have phosphoric acid. Funny how many bottled drinks, even non-caffeinated, have it, like most of the Lipton tea products, even the "healthier" green and white teas. That's not a loss, since I find Lipton vile in all its incarnations.
Fortunately, my Taiwanese bottled green tea (Say Yes to Noh!) doesn't have it. I'd die without my green tea, which I buy by the case at an Asian market.
There are only two caffeinated sodas I drink these days, and sparingly: Vault (kind of a weird mix of Fresca and Sprite), and Mountain Dew.
I can live with that.
Posted by: Cheezits | June 10, 2009 3:30 PM
...it looks like they're sponsoring stupidity.
"Looks like"?? :-D
Posted by: Rob Davies | June 10, 2009 3:30 PM
Well, there is no God, but Pepsi is the Devil's piss.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | June 10, 2009 3:33 PM
Jones soda and when you can find Cane Sugar Cheerwine.
Though i will admit a lifelong coke drinking habit.
damn it.
Posted by: Acronym Jim | June 10, 2009 3:47 PM
Coke? I thought over-the-top evangelicals preferred crank to fuel their research.
What? You didn't think Haggard's look-see into male prostitution was for his own pleasure did you?
Posted by: fusilier | June 10, 2009 3:56 PM
Trader Joe's Cafe Feminina
Fair Trade, Shade Grown, Women's Farming Co-operative
Posted by: Acronym Jim | June 10, 2009 3:59 PM
Ooh, I don't think Kenny and Teddy would go for that cola.
Posted by: donna | June 10, 2009 4:20 PM
Pepsi would never do anything so stupid. I would stop drinking it and put them out of business. Seriously, I shop based on where the damned stuff is on sale this week....
Posted by: Bill Dauphin, OM | June 10, 2009 4:27 PM
Water? Say it ain't so:
Water is the strong stuff:
It carries whales and ships,
But water is the wrong stuff;
Don't let it get past your lips!
It rots your boots
And stains your suits,
Puts aches in all o' your bones;
Di-lute the stuff with whisky, aye,
Or leave it well alone! —Robin Williamson1
As for the question at hand, at home (and when I'm not drinking an adult beverage) I drink mostly "microbrewed" diet sodas from a local, family-owned bottling company, Hosmer Mountain Soda (their Diet Grapefruit [think Fresca], Diet White Birch Beer, and Diet Ginger Ale are my favorites). When I'm out, I drink either Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi, but if I have a choice I prefer Coke products. I won't be boycotting them, BTW (and yes, PZ, I know you're not promoting a boycott; jus' sayin').
1 Quoted from memory; please forgive any errors.
Posted by: Lee Picton | June 10, 2009 4:34 PM
With the price of Coke products going through the roof, we are experimenting with house brands, and less consumption. The Diet Dr. Thunder at Walmart is a reasonable fascimile of Diet Dr. Pepper. We haven't found a good substitute yet for Diet Lime Coke, though. But.... we have become heavy consumers of decaf ice tea. The Iced Tea pot from Mr. Coffee (@ $20) is wonderful. Combining regular teabags with a few of the flavor varieties (when on sale, of course) produces a really, really good beverage. As the price of coke went up, so did consumption of the tea. And oh, yes, Pepsi sucks, and doesn't go well with rum.
Posted by: Negi | June 10, 2009 4:43 PM
I will continue to drink Coca-Cola classic because it is delicious. I don't care that they made a deal to sell snacks at the creation museum.
Posted by: Krystalline Apostate | June 10, 2009 5:13 PM
I gave up carbonated drinks because...well, suffice it to say, ingesting bubbles @ age 50 has some fairly embarrassing side effects.
In actuality, Coke has an appalling human rights record:
http://www.countercurrents.org/gl-mesbahi130105.htm
So I guess I have to stop drinking Dasani water.
& I won't touch Welch products, because the company was created by the John Birch society.
Posted by: r | June 10, 2009 5:31 PM
it's correctly spelled "sike."
Posted by: Raytheist
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June 10, 2009 5:33 PM
The only thing Coke is good for at my house is stripping rescued cast iron cookware, removing the rust and crud, so it can be re-seasoned and restored to useful service. Soda pop of any sort is nasty for bodily consumption.
Posted by: JamSan | June 10, 2009 5:46 PM
I'm bringing a Pepsi on my visit... teach the controversy!
Posted by: JJR | June 10, 2009 6:19 PM
Now I'm curious if Coke also sponsors Space Center Houston @ NASA or HMNS or both...
In any case, I'm definitely a (Diet) Coke fiend, though I have been cutting back lately. My parents like Coke Zero, but I just don't find it very tasty.
I sometimes indulge myself with Mexican bottled Coke Classic down here in Texas, usually at authentic Mexican restaurants (and a few Tex-Mex places); when ice-cold it's just awesome.
It's great that Pepsi supports all those good causes (GLBT friendly, etc) but I still can't stand the taste of it.
As far as alternatives, (Diet) RC Cola is sometimes acceptable; (Diet) Dr. Pepper, well; I have to be in the mood for (Diet) Dr. Pepper. In Germany, I'd sometimes tolerate a Spezi (a local weird-ass cola/citrus mashup) if the Coke was sold out.
Jones is good, but I try not to overdo them. The Orange creme flavor tastes like an icecream Dream bar in a bottle...heavenly! (I loved Dream bars back in Elementary school, when my school cafeteria sold them).
"RC Cola and a Moon Pie" - great line from the song "Lifestyles of the Not So Rich and Famous". You woulda thought RC would make a good sponsor for Ham's demographic, but I guess they're too small-fry compared to Coca-Cola.
Posted by: Cannabinaceae | June 10, 2009 7:04 PM
On HFCS:
Drinks with that stuff in it leave an unpleasant metallic aftertaste* in my mouth. Drinks with cane sugar instead, feel creamy and like a liquid version of hard candy. Boylan's, Jones, Abita Root Beer.
Hansen's used to have a Sarsaparilla and also used to be all cane sugar. I would flaunt my superior taste and self-righteousness... ...until the day I sipped a Hansen's Sarsaparilla and got that metallic aftertaste. I looked at the label. They'd gone to half HFCS. Damn them! And they made a full 14 ounce serving, not these pusillanimous 12 ouncers you get these days.
*Properly brewed beer, on the other hand, with a shitload of hops thrown in at the beginning of the brew and boiled long, leaves a pleasant metallic aftertase in my mouth.
Posted by: Brian X | June 10, 2009 7:21 PM
Fusilier:
Hm, funny you should mention that -- we just drank a pot of that with a gigantic Way Too Many Ingredients Frittata tonight for dinner.
As far as sodas go, I prefer Coke to Pepsi as Coke always seems to have a somewhat drier flavor that appeals to me more. The rest of my family are Pepsi people, though. My real preference in soft drinks, though, is straight-up fresh-brewed iced black tea -- vanishingly small amount of calories, just enough flavor to make it interesting without sugar overload, and it still has caffeine to boot (well, except for when it's horribly overextracted and tastes like a mixture of beer wort and cheap apple juice). When I'm not in an espresso mood, I go for the iced tea whenever I can get it.
Posted by: The Messiah | June 10, 2009 7:27 PM
I too gave up caffeine and started smoking weed instead.
Posted by: Angel Kaida | June 10, 2009 7:33 PM
Is there any way to convince Pepsi to keep its Throwback stuff around longer? Seriously, that stuff is awesome. I hate regular Pepsi, though. I think it tastes like cough syrup.
Posted by: Julie.k.stahlhut@alum.mit.edu | June 10, 2009 7:39 PM
I occasionally drink Coke Zero, but for the most part my caffeine source is coffee. Lots of it. Hot, cold, filtered, espressoed, whatever -- anything but instant. Doesn't matter. Also: Despite my longtime dislike of Ronald Reagan, I still like jellybeans. Despite my general approval of Barack Obama, I still love beets.
All non-issues for me. Besides: Mussolini and Mike Dukakis both tried to make the trains run on time.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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June 10, 2009 9:44 PM
I guess I'll stick with my Glengoyne 17 Year Old single malt whisky. And the occasional cup of coffee or tea.
Posted by: chuckgoecke
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June 10, 2009 10:08 PM
I remember back in 1980, when I was a summer hired petroleum engineering student at a local oil production office for Gulf Oil in Odessa Texas, we had an engineer who was a Mormon. He was anti-alcohol and anti-caffeine. That is, until it was announced that the LDS had bought Coca-Cola. The next day, he was drinking a Coke. We laughed, mainly because he was such a BYU wrah! wrah! asshole.
Posted by: jomega | June 10, 2009 11:02 PM
PZ wrote: 'Someday, some people will actually read what I wrote. From " I doubt that Coke wants to trumpet this news" to my statement that there's no point to protesting this marketing stuff'
I sort of disagree. While it's quite probable that Coke is hardly champing at the bit to brag about it's "relationship" with the Creation Museum, the Museum is trumpeting the news about it's deal with Coke, or at least the local distributor,who I'm sure is more than happy to take money from IDiots, or any other idiots.
In any case, I thought it worth a couple of minutes of my time to bitch at Coca-Cola. With any luck, a few folks at the corporate offices might be annoyed that the CM would imply that Coke supports their agenda, or that coke drinkers might infer the same.
Posted by: Scott Hatfield, OM | June 11, 2009 2:18 AM
I left the following on the Coke consumer contact web site PZ provides above:
"It's been brought to my attention that Coca-Cola is partnering with the creationist outfit 'Answers in Genesis', in particular at their 'Creation Museum.' This is appalling. Creationism is directly opposed to the scientific study of evolving bacterial populations, and its widespread acceptance thus poses a risk to food safety. Do you wish consumers to associate your product with a lack of science where bacteria are concerned? An outbreak of some pathogen at public facilities associated with non-science would be very bad PR for the Coca-Cola company. I strongly urge your board of directors to reconsider any official partnership with Coca-Cola for the good of your shareholders and to maintain good will with consumers who understand the importance of teaching evolution and scientific literacy."
Feel free to grab my boiler-plate and tweak to your satisfaction. Let's leave LOTS of concerned messages for the company.
Posted by: Arwen
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June 11, 2009 3:39 AM
The coke ads in the summer of 2000 pissed me off so much that I have maintained a one-person coke boycott for 9 years. Random and pointless, I know, but it's a laugh :)
Fear me, O giant faceless corporation! (not)
Posted by: Sgt Skepper | June 11, 2009 6:47 AM
At the University of Manchester, Coca-Cola is already not sold anywhere across campus due to its exploitative activities around the world. It now seems there's another reason to boycott.
Posted by: Cosmic Teapot | June 11, 2009 8:05 AM
Coca-Cola!
Don't you guys have beer?
Posted by: Scott Hatfield, OM | June 11, 2009 10:40 AM
Re: #106
Actually, the idea that LDS own Coke is an urban legend.
Posted by: Knockgoats | June 11, 2009 10:59 AM
Coca-Cola!
Don't you guys have beer? - Cosmic Teapot
Or water? Why anyone would choose to drink a foul-tasting, tooth-rotting, belch-inducing, diabetes-promoting, shit-coloured liquid in preference to water is surely one of the "perennial imponderables" the Templeton Foundation should be funding research into.
Posted by: Velok | June 11, 2009 4:48 PM
Pepsi taste crap, Coca Cola parners with Ken Ham.
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Pepsi then :/
Posted by: Zel | June 11, 2009 5:01 PM
Damn...no more Diet-Coke. Sent in my boycott notice....
Posted by: Zel | June 11, 2009 5:04 PM
Damn...no more Diet-Coke. Sent in my boycott notice....
Posted by: missy | June 11, 2009 6:09 PM
ctenotrish, I feel your pain. I can't drink anything but the Real Thing™ and I am definitely its bitch, at 8am and again at noon.
Supporting Ken Ham may be the one thing that could make me go cold turkee, though...
Posted by: cookware | June 11, 2009 8:22 PM
Just drink Green Tea.
Posted by: troll | June 12, 2009 1:54 AM
I love Coke and I love Creationism!
Posted by: Rune Olwen | June 13, 2009 4:45 AM
I wrote them:
"Just read on the pharyngula blog that you "partnered" with the Creationist Museum.
Seems this is PROOF that your origional recipe (that one with cocaine in) is needed, people who go to such a location do need some boost for their brain function!
Coffeine is too weak to break indoctrination to dumbth."
Thank you, PZ, for giving me the chance to write this again, I am curious about the old recipe and would LOVE to try it since I met an old lady long ago who loved it in her youth.
But I am a caffeine addict and if I do not get a strong cup of coffee I use tablets, so I do have little use for soda, sugary or otherwise.
(I regret that I cannot edit the letter to Coca Cola, I just detected that I made some of my trilingual typos again)
Posted by: Cynthia1770 | June 13, 2009 11:01 PM
Hi,
This is for Robert #50.
My google alert picked up this site.
HFCS-55, which sweetens both Coke and Pepsi, is 55%fructose:
45% fructose. This appears to be only marginally different
than the 50:50 ratio of monossacharides in sucrose.....until
you do the math. Every ratio may be expressed as a quotient and calculated. So, 55%:45% = 55/45=1.22. This means that in every can of Coke (bottled in the USA) there
is, compared to glucose, 22% more fructose. This excess fructose over time can wreak havoc on your liver, your waistline, and your arteries. I was a reasearch technician and used to do gradient elutions. If I were to accidentally make a 55:45 solution rather than a 50:50 solution, I'd have to pour the solution down the sink. Actually the resultant imbalance is probably worse. Some references say that HFCS-55 is 55%fructose:42%fructose allowing for 3% impurities (random monosacharides). Calculating that, 55/42=1.31 means there is 31% extra fructose. It is patently misleading for the CRA to claim that HFCS is similar to sucrose. I'm sure they know these figures; they designed the ratio.
Posted by: Dracil | June 14, 2009 3:23 PM
He may not be so happy about a Pepsi deal given that Pepsi is also currently undergoing boycotts by the right-wing for their support of the evil homosexual agenda.
Posted by: gina | August 6, 2009 7:20 PM
Big deal. Coke pays them to be the exclusive drink vendor, they brag that coke is a corporate sponsor, stupid people don't die of thirst while they're imagining what it is like to have their heads smashed by a tyrannosaurus rex.
Coke will have do do something far worse to lose my business. anyway, the theme park is closed. Seems the owner doesn't believe in paying taxes.