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If homeopathy were actually practiced by your doctors…

Category: Humor
Posted on: July 3, 2009 4:06 PM, by PZ Myers

Maybe health care would be cheaper.

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#1

Posted by: Steve_C | July 3, 2009 4:13 PM

Yes!!! Perfect.

#2

Posted by: SciencePundit Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 4:14 PM

I saw this on Orac's channel earlier. It's great! I love the homeopathic pints at the end. :-)

#3

Posted by: JohnnieCanuck Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 4:14 PM

Seems like it would still cost the same. As much as the market will bear. Just the profit margins are improved.

#4

Posted by: 'Tis Himself Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 4:15 PM

Two more homeopathic lagers, please.

<snortle>

#5

Posted by: JohnnieCanuck Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 4:23 PM

Make a little money for Scienceblogs (and PZ?) by clicking on the Good News link I found in the google ads banner.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/evolution/?S=2&gclid=CPHOjqStupsCFShRagod5VJGAw

You can order a free booklet on evolution/creation and/or subscribe to their free magazine. There's even a link to do it to a 'friend'.

Humour and it costs them. That's win-win in my books.

#6

Posted by: Bride of Shrek OM | July 3, 2009 4:24 PM

Brilliant.

Love the bit at the end.. "a bottle of basically water in one hand and a large invoice in the other".

Says it all really.

P.S. Keep a sharp eye for ALL the signs on the walls in the backgound- some are just hysterical.

#7

Posted by: (((Billy))) The Atheist | July 3, 2009 4:28 PM

Completely off topic (like that never happens here) but Sarah Palin just announced that she will step down as the governor of Alaska effective July 25. Apparently to focus on a run at the GOP nomination for 2012. It is currently up at Daily Kos. No, I am not kidding.

#8

Posted by: damnedyankee | July 3, 2009 4:28 PM

Oh, sure it might be cheaper up front, but don't forget the hidden costs as the incresed number of funerals causes the associated prices to rise.

#9

Posted by: m_t_sac | July 3, 2009 4:31 PM

Sure PZ...Lets trust the good folks over at Pfizer, they would NEVER do anything to harm us for quick buck.

#10

Posted by: QrazyQat | July 3, 2009 4:32 PM

Healthcare might not be cheaper, but life certainly would be!

#11

Posted by: m_t_sac | July 3, 2009 4:33 PM

Sure PZ...Lets trust the good folks over at Pfizer, they would NEVER do anything to harm us for quick buck.

#12

Posted by: Brian | July 3, 2009 4:43 PM

Good point, sac! Pfizer is run by money-grubbing assholes, so let's shun the entirety of Western medical science!

#13

Posted by: Jadehawk, OM Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 4:47 PM

I think they served homeopathic beer at the nightclub I used to go to as a teen...

#14

Posted by: AJ Milne | July 3, 2009 4:51 PM

Good point, sac! Pfizer is run by money-grubbing assholes, so let's shun the entirety of Western medical science!

Hey now, let's go easy on m_t, Brian... I'm sure s/he's just having a bad day...

(/I mean, you might come off as a bit of a wank, too... if you'd just lost a patient to a bad case of acne.)

#15

Posted by: Steve_C | July 3, 2009 4:52 PM

Here's Tim Minchin on woo and new age goofiness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_htqDCP-s

Actually doctors administer the drugs. And they have to deal with the consequences. Also Pfizer has to go through years of medical trials before the FDA would let the drug onto the market.

You're bizarro world doesn't fit with the reality of what drug companies do. Hurting patients for a quick buck doesn't happen. There are no quick bucks in pharmaceuticals.

Money grubbing perhaps, but not reckless.

#16

Posted by: Rasamune | July 3, 2009 4:53 PM

@12: Yeah, brilliant! And while we're at it, let's resolve to turn our wallets over to the alternative money-grubbing assholes when ever we're feeling ill! This is the best idea ever!

#17

Posted by: Dax | July 3, 2009 4:56 PM

Funny, Pfizer bought Wyeth (among others) becoming one of the largest Vitamin complex producers in the world... and what do a lot of alt-med people want you to do? Use those vitamins because Pfizer is out to kill you! In the UK Pfizer is even actively promoting altmed including ayurvedic "treatments" (read: poisson yourself with heavy metals, "but at least it's natural!").

But back to topic: British humor is the best.

#18

Posted by: Edd | July 3, 2009 5:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfqht0LEOWQ - same episode
This is a must see PZ

#19

Posted by: X. Wolp | July 3, 2009 5:09 PM

@17: Didn't you get the memo, the vague magical healing powers of ayurvedic practitioners make heavy metals non toxic somehow!

#20

Posted by: JSW | July 3, 2009 5:14 PM

@17: Pfizer wants us to become French fish?

#21

Posted by: NoFear | July 3, 2009 5:28 PM

In multiple double blind studies it was found that all homeopathic medicines performed exactly as well as placebo. Since the success rate of placebo has been well documented, homeopathy has a viable place in modern medicine.

Now excuse me while I extract my tongue from my cheek.

#22

Posted by: Marc Abian | July 3, 2009 5:35 PM

Sweet, I get to be first to note the Harry Potter reference, and subsequently the first to be rejected by other readers for pointing it out.

#23

Posted by: Marc Abian | July 3, 2009 5:45 PM

Actually that's probably not a HP reference at all. I'm cool again.


I loved the line this horoscope's not too clever either. Delivered perfectly.

#24

Posted by: neilo | July 3, 2009 5:54 PM

Ah, series 6 of Peepshow-bring it on! Seriously though, I thought you had to dilute lager about 10*15 times more for it to be effective...

#25

Posted by: Laurel | July 3, 2009 6:11 PM

When watching this on TV the other day, I actually thought trying to send this in, but alas when I looked, someone hadn't uploaded it at that point. Glad to see it here anyway.

@24: I had the same thought with those homoeopathic lagers - there's actually some lager in that water.

#26

Posted by: Draken | July 3, 2009 6:47 PM

Isn't Budweiser kind of homeopathic lager?

#27

Posted by: Jim Bob Cooter | July 3, 2009 6:51 PM

The people who complain that Pfizer is evil because they want to make money - but then go buy useless vitamins from the same type of pharm company - are the same people who claim Wal Mart is evil and then they go and shop at Target. You're a moron and a hypocrite, a not uncommon but still impressively disgusting combination.

#28

Posted by: 'Tis Himself Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 6:59 PM

Isn't Budweiser kind of homeopathic lager?

That's Bud Lite you're thinking of.

#29

Posted by: Lee Brimmicombe-Wood | July 3, 2009 7:09 PM

I think the best line is the one about taking a piece of a Blue Ford Mondeo and diluting it to cure the car crash.

#30

Posted by: Andyo Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 7:18 PM

Reminded me of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWVkNcsdN6c

#31

Posted by: Abbie | July 3, 2009 7:45 PM

Is this from a third series? I don't remember seeing this.

Their "Good Samaratin" sketch is a hoot.

#32

Posted by: David Waldock | July 3, 2009 8:05 PM

@#24

Sorry, it's actually That Mitchell and Webb Look although of course it stars the same two comics :-D

D

#33

Posted by: neilo | July 3, 2009 8:32 PM

@#32 - No problem mate, I know its those guys I was just expressing my excitment of the next Peepshow series!
If you want to see Michell at his best check this out:

http://www.atheistnexus.org/video/david-mitchell-heaven-earth

#34

Posted by: Paula Helm Murray | July 3, 2009 8:34 PM

I keep seeing a commercial for a homeopathic pain reliever for pets on TV. All I can think of is, "cheapskates, you don't want to take your dog in to the vet to find out what's really wrong." and the fact that there is a fairly good amount of tried, proven pharmaceutical pain relief available to canines.

Cats, not so much. But it's still a matter of taking them to the vet to find out what's really wrong.

Homeopathy? You're basically paying for water someone has declared has been near to something that might in some random, far out way possible able to maybe cause pain (if the actual substance was really in the water in a measurable amount...).

Bull crap.

#35

Posted by: gf | July 3, 2009 9:42 PM

Peep Show with Mitchell and Webb is much better than their sketch shows imo.

Episode 1 here: http://www.guba.com/watch/3000089863

#36

Posted by: Paul Brown | July 3, 2009 9:48 PM

#18: so how do you explain the message?

#37

Posted by: Nidome | July 3, 2009 9:54 PM

Ah, I love Mitchell and Webb! Peepshow is one of my all-time favourites too.

Also check out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGDndcxH-O4&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCovMVLYYZ4

#38

Posted by: Rorschach | July 3, 2009 10:09 PM

Funny !
Even more absurd when you do real medicine for a living.

#39

Posted by: Obeah | July 3, 2009 10:29 PM

Silly Doctors; they forgot to pray.

#40

Posted by: Jeff | July 3, 2009 10:44 PM

In a move whose absurdity is only just matched by homeopathy, Sahara ("Mind Like a Desert") Palin is gunnin' for President, in a campaign which I have already named Slaughterhouse 2012. Run Forrest, I mean Sarah, run!

Besides, doesn't she know that we are now on the verge of the next Al Franken Decade??

#41

Posted by: Jeff | July 3, 2009 10:47 PM

In a move whose absurdity is only just matched by homeopathy, Sahara ("Mind Like a Desert") Palin is gunnin' for president, in a campaign which I have already named Slaughterhouse 2012. Run Forrest, I mean Sarah, run!

Besides, doesn't she know that we are now on the verge of the next Al Franken Decade?? What a moose-brain...

#42

Posted by: Hadrian Author Profile Page | July 3, 2009 11:08 PM

I've been lurking here for a long time, but a Mitchell and Webb post I cannot ignore. Brilliant! And this looks to be from a season of That Mitchell and Webb look I haven't seen yet. That, and the prospect of another season of Peep Show, makes me very happy.

#43

Posted by: Bert | July 3, 2009 11:36 PM

It's a new series. Sketch just aired on BBC 2 in the UK last night.

#44

Posted by: Ryan Egesdahl Author Profile Page | July 4, 2009 2:06 AM

And yet again, rational humor is much funnier than the irrational kind.

I think I peed a little watching the videos.

#45

Posted by: Jim Bob Cooter | July 4, 2009 2:07 AM

The people who complain that Pfizer is evil because they want to make money - but then go buy useless vitamins from the same type of pharm company - are the same people who claim Wal Mart is evil and then they go and shop at Target. You're a moron and a hypocrite, a not uncommon but still impressively disgusting combination.

#46

Posted by: bric | July 4, 2009 3:36 AM

#33 Great clip, although the funniest bit is the interactive real priest at the end. David Mitchell also does a rather acerbic Soapbox every week, on iTunes or here:

http://www.channelflip.com/category/show/mitchell-show/

#47

Posted by: Happy Tentacles Author Profile Page | July 4, 2009 3:39 AM

Did you see the other sketch in the same Mitchell & Webb episode, in which an atheist has his atheism confirmed when he slices open a watermelon to find that the seeds spell out the message 'There is no God'?

#48

Posted by: Happy Tentacles Author Profile Page | July 4, 2009 4:08 AM

Thanks Neilo #33 for the link to David Mitchell demolishing 'The Heaven and Earth Show'. Absolutely hilarious!

#49

Posted by: Jason Dick | July 4, 2009 7:22 AM

Steve_C, #15

Actually doctors administer the drugs. And they have to deal with the consequences. Also Pfizer has to go through years of medical trials before the FDA would let the drug onto the market.

You're bizarro world doesn't fit with the reality of what drug companies do. Hurting patients for a quick buck doesn't happen. There are no quick bucks in pharmaceuticals.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that. The field is so full of moral hazard that, well, that's exactly what they're out to do: make a quick buck. And the regulation system that we have is far from perfect, but at least we have a regulation system. Remedies labeled "homeopathic" don't even have that much going for them, and so are far less likely to be effective, and far more fraught with danger (witness Zicam).

I don't think it's unreasonable to be wary and skeptical of western medicine, but by far the most reasonable solution when facing a medical problem is to go with western medicine for the answer. Even if it's not perfect, it's the best we have to date.

#50

Posted by: Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. | July 4, 2009 10:21 AM

I am SO using this in class!

#51

Posted by: Faintpraise | July 4, 2009 11:56 AM

I love Mitchell and Webb! And we got a double skeptical bonus this week with the Atheist watermelon sketch (linked to by Edd @ #18)

#52

Posted by: Brother Sport | July 4, 2009 5:33 PM

Marc @ #22:

Haha, I noticed that as well!

#53

Posted by: Karabekian | July 5, 2009 3:14 AM

"...the same people who claim Wal Mart is evil and then they go and shop at Target."

If I shop at Target, I'm shopping at a local business, at least - HQ is just down the road. After all, for every $100 spent at a locally owned store $68 stays in the community, don't you know.

Besides, there's different degrees of evil, and WalMart is several dozen shades darker than Target.

#54

Posted by: bezoar | July 5, 2009 10:19 AM

Be careful what you wish for!

#55

Posted by: Dave The Drummer | July 5, 2009 1:59 PM

I was hoping someone would pick this up. I watched it just last night on the BBC iPlayer. Awesome.
And, thankfully, with no irritating 'well maybe' apologism at the end either.
Check out their rest of their stuff. In the same show they did a great one about the seeds in a melon spelling out 'There is no god'.
:-)

#56

Posted by: Gene | July 5, 2009 2:41 PM

The beauty of the homeopathic argument that 'less is more' means that if you dilute something until there's none of that something left, you will have an infinitely powerful drug (pure water). And it would be so powerful, that a single drop would be enough to kill every man, woman and child on the planet!

hahahaha....

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