Various bits of red tape have been cleared, and the feds are about to seize the bulk of Dino Adventure Land in Pensacola, Florida, so that it can be sold off to cover the Hovind's pending debts and penalties. You might just be able to pick up some plywood dinosaurs for cheap!
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Posted on: July 31, 2009 7:51 PM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: Randy | July 31, 2009 8:00 PM
The sheer awesomeness of that is a great way to start my weekend...
Posted by: robotaholic
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July 31, 2009 8:00 PM
I always wanted a sinclair dinosaur when I was a kid- now's my chance to score-
Posted by: NixNoctua
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July 31, 2009 8:02 PM
W00t! I wanna plywood dinosaur! oh, and uh: HAHA HOVIND, HAHA!
Posted by: Holbach
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July 31, 2009 8:04 PM
Aw shit, his god failed him.
Posted by: Anon | July 31, 2009 8:04 PM
The cheaper the better--the article notes that the combined value of the properties is more than what the Hovinds owe, and that any extra will be returned to them.
If the plots sell for pennies on the dollar, however...
Posted by: Bronze Dog | July 31, 2009 8:06 PM
They got any raptors with saddles? I want ride in on one to an Ebberon D&D game.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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July 31, 2009 8:08 PM
I've been looking at a bunch of pictures from Dinosaur Adventure Land and I failed to see a single dinosaur.
Posted by: freelancer | July 31, 2009 8:14 PM
Wow, Eric's probably patting himself on the back for his financial genius of giving away multiple iPod Touches!
Posted by: JD | July 31, 2009 8:14 PM
Not until I pay the association fees on my Loch Ness condo.
Posted by: Pocket Nerd | July 31, 2009 8:16 PM
Awesome! Can I buy it and refurbish it as "Creationists are Dishonest Twits"-Land?
Posted by: Larry | July 31, 2009 8:22 PM
Dibs on the saddle jesus used to ride his dinosaur!
Posted by: Tony P | July 31, 2009 8:30 PM
I say lets pool our meager funds and sweep in and buy the property and all. Lets set up a museum that science rules. Oh wait, there are already science machines.
Why not make it the site of the first nuclear fusion generator.
Posted by: Ryan | July 31, 2009 8:31 PM
Actually this would be a great opportunity for someone to see if that business plan from South Park episode "Cartmanland" really works.
Posted by: j.t.delaney | July 31, 2009 8:31 PM
Finally! I think I speak for everyone when I say America is sick and tired of paying full retail price for plywood dinosaurs. In this tough economy, it's nice to get a break once in awhile on some of the basics.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | July 31, 2009 8:33 PM
this saddens me deeply
Posted by: jpf | July 31, 2009 8:40 PM
Kent's theme park is basically a few buildings, a sandbox, and a rope swing, isn't it? I'll pass. Notify me when The Holy Land Experience is put on the chopping block. They've got caves and a pool with dancing waters -- perfect for a cavemen-vs.-vengeful-squid-themed retrofit.
Posted by: Aly | July 31, 2009 8:47 PM
YES! I live in Pensacola, and my daycare took me to that park one time. I don't remember much of it, as it was probably ten years ago, but I do know it was really lame. There was a little minigolf area and then arcade games inside. I didn't get the whole religious vibe (six is too young, perhaps), but after a few years I realized what it was. Having been raised Hindu, I didn't have to be atheist to be disgusted with the whole Christian deal. I believe they even have a billboard advertising the park.
Maybe something constructive can be built there now.
Posted by: Aly | July 31, 2009 8:54 PM
I've been looking at a bunch of pictures from Dinosaur Adventure Land and I failed to see a single dinosaur.
That's true. I don't remember ever seeing any dinosaurs there.
Posted by: Lance | July 31, 2009 9:10 PM
There's a dino right here on page 2. http://www.dinosauradventureland.com/media.php
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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July 31, 2009 9:15 PM
You're right, there is a picture of a dinosaur. There's also several pictures of people with fat asses and shorts.
Posted by: Hexhunter | July 31, 2009 9:16 PM
Crudely-Painted Dinosaur-Shaped Plywood Creationist-Propoganda! Crudely-Painted Dinosaur-Shaped Plywood Creationist-Propoganda! Crudely-Painted Dinosaur-Shaped Plywood Creationist-Propoganda! Hi, I'm Kent Hovind, President and CEO of Kent Hovind's Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man Emporium and Warehouse! Thanks to my recent lack of success in stealing people's money and mind's with religion and failing to illegally hide my assets from the government I am now currently overstocked on Crudely-Painted Dinosaur-Shaped Plywood Creationist-Propoganda, and I am passing the savings on to you! Attract customers to your business, Make a splash at your next presentation, Keep grandma company, Protect your crops. Confuse your neighbors, entertain the kids, scare the pets! Whatever your Crudely-Painted Dinosaur-Shaped Plywood Creationist-Propoganda needs are! So come on down to Kent Hovind's Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man Emporium and Warehouse quickly as they are a tremendous fire hazard! Route 2 in Weekapaug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_hovind#Sentencing.2C_appeals.2C_and_prison_life_.282007-2009.29
http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Al_Harrington
I say we buy it up and only change the text's so instead of the creationist museum it becomes the museum dedicated to that bizarre idea that some American's had at the start of the 21st century where people can go to point and laugh at these weird ideas.
Then you realise it's making no money so you shut it down for a few years then it get's converted to an event area for gigs and massive stage shows...
The FSM may look kindly upon us if we dedicate a museum to his Noodly image.
Posted by: Benjamin Geiger | July 31, 2009 9:34 PM
Hey, maybe Dinosaur World would be interested in buying some of it.
Dinosaur World! Dinosaur Adventure Land minus the overwhelming crazy!
Posted by: Adam | July 31, 2009 9:34 PM
Commandment #11 - Thou shalt not pay taxes.
Posted by: Zig | July 31, 2009 9:45 PM
It can't cost that much. I can see it now, "Opening Spring 2010 - Cthulhu Land." I'll pitch in 20 bucks.
Posted by: scooter | July 31, 2009 10:00 PM
I've heard that there is some controversey as to just how old those plywood dinosaurs really are.
Posted by: Darren Garrison | July 31, 2009 10:30 PM
#21 Hexhunter:
I get jokes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9EOjizFxFA
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | July 31, 2009 10:59 PM
Y'know, maybe someone would be able to open kind of like a Madame Tussaud's museum to really dumb stuff. Yeah, that's it:
SchadenfreudeLand
I bet the failblog guys would license material! See the amazing scale model of the yacht falling onto the dock! See Hovind in his jail cell waiting for god to save him! Talk to our trained Vox Day impersonator - he's really SMRT! And, over here, our life-size exhibit of the guy who liked to hug grizzly bears!(Well, his shoes, anyway)
Posted by: funda62 | July 31, 2009 11:07 PM
Whenever I see news stories from my hometown I wonder how the heck I ever made it out.
Posted by: littlejohn | July 31, 2009 11:20 PM
Where's your god now, dino boy?
Posted by: JD | July 31, 2009 11:38 PM
I wonder how Hovind is doing. I haven't heard anything for awhile. Anyone know? I hope his cellMates are treating him realllll well.
Posted by: Sarah | July 31, 2009 11:39 PM
You know, I never thought I'd say this, but...
Praise the IRS!!!
Posted by: J. White | July 31, 2009 11:56 PM
This is disappointing. My local atheist/freethinker Meetup group have been hoping to do a visit to the great Dino Adventure Land (on a much smaller scale than PZ's visit to Ken Hamm's modest offering)--but only if we can get around the entry fee Hovind's minions are charging.
I'd pay, if only I could wear this as a T-shirt (blatant plug!):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39429490@N03/3776255183/
There are also a few pics of the park entrance and a Google Earth aerial view for folks who'd like to see the (yes, just one) dinosaur and park frontage:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39429490@N03/
The parking lot is bigger than the "theme park."
I wish I had pics from inside, when a friend and I went a few years back (when it was free). They've got some Australian guy with an iguana who hypes his "real live dinosaur! Crikey!," a gift shop where you can buy all the stuff Hovind ever marketed, and do some "real-life" science experiments that supposedly prove that the Earth is 6,000 years old AND that we hung out with T. Rex.
Posted by: michael brown | August 1, 2009 12:14 AM
i went there with my elementary school a long long time ago... i live in pensacola and cant help but think this may be the best thing to happen here since... well, nothing really happens here. we just go to the beach a ton.
Posted by: Em Finn | August 1, 2009 12:41 AM
Wasn't the piglet rapist out of town on a Florida trip for a bit?
Call me paranoid, but one can't quite dislodge the term "franchise" from one's mind...
Posted by: Brian X | August 1, 2009 12:45 AM
I love how he tried to dump all the property off on Glenn Stoll, who is the sovereign citizen whacktard who helped him into so much trouble in the first place.
Has anyone threatened enough of their sanity to read any of Hovind's "knee-mail"? There was a time not long after prison where he was writing masturbatory dialogues with God that led me to believe he was starting to come unraveled.
Posted by: Rey Fox | August 1, 2009 1:21 AM
I hope they leave it up a while longer, decaying and weeds growing around it. As an amateur photographer, I love that shit.
Posted by: pdferguson
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August 1, 2009 1:22 AM
The best part of this is, if you trade in your old gas-guzzling dinosaur, you can get one of these babies with up to $3500 cash back under Obama's "cash for clunkers" program!
Posted by: gaypaganunitarianagnostic | August 1, 2009 1:31 AM
There is or was a Dinosaur park in Moscow, Tx. Never been there. Don't know if it's creationist, but I am afraid it may be.
Posted by: Xenithrys | August 1, 2009 1:39 AM
Do you suppose the Pharyngulites could raise the 470k (not a penny more to be returned to Hovind) and run the park as an evolution theme park? The theme could be a 5 km walk through Earth history, with islam, christianity and judaism taking up the last 1-5 mm.
Posted by: Dancaban | August 1, 2009 1:44 AM
All bow down to the IRS. They got their man again!
Posted by: Fizzygoo | August 1, 2009 2:13 AM
Awe, Bronze Dog beat me to a D&D reference :)
Posted by: Ragutis | August 1, 2009 2:50 AM
Hmmm... that dino is pretty big. I was going to suggest buying it, getting a bunch of prominent atheists/skeptics/scientists to sign it and then auction it for the NCSE or something. But where would anyone put it?
Then again, that would probably rule any neighborhood xmas decoration contest. Have it smashing a manger, trampling shepherds, magi impaled on it's horns, baby Jesus clenched in it's maw...
Posted by: Tom M | August 1, 2009 3:49 AM
There are likely to be real fund-raisers in some churches this week to "save" the park. Let's face it, these are people who gave money to buy the domestic terrorist Randall Terry a house, so there must be people who are dumb enough to give money for this unworthy cause.
Posted by: Varangian | August 1, 2009 7:49 AM
#25 "I've heard that there is some controversey as to just how old those plywood dinosaurs really are."
Too bad carbon dating isn't reliable... at least that was what Hovind said. ;-)
Posted by: Thunderbird5 | August 1, 2009 8:32 AM
How can the native children of this haven of greatness be so dismissive? The government should put Kent's $430,400 towards furthering Pensacola's one claim to greatness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nkJquHnAU
Posted by: bric | August 1, 2009 9:31 AM
Slightly off topic; today's morning Prom is an Evolution Special for kids
http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/2009/whatson/0108.shtml#prom21
Posted by: baliset | August 1, 2009 12:18 PM
Oh yes, if you head over to Kent's own website at cseblogs.com he's still at it. Nothing specific about the imminent dissolution of his theme park, but an ironic post about the sheer *unfairness* of the law, since, gosh darn it, if those drug possessing room-mates of his deserve to be let out early, then why, Kent (who never, ever drinks alcohol) should be a-let out too. That's really what his argument boils down to.
I think it's perverse to hear Kent opine about crime and punishment from his vantagepoint. There are only so many contradictions a person can spew out before everyone starts laughing and pointing. Either God reigns and dispenses justice, or he does not. Either doers of evil get their just desserts or they do not. Either Kent is precisely where he deserves to be, or he is not.
What do you think is the lesson God wants Kent to learn? Kent lies and steals.
Kent goes to jail.
Ken shows no contrition.
Kent stays in jail for ten years.
Kent's wife goes to jail.
Kent shows not a word of grief about the fate he put his wife to.
Kent's wife gets no reprieve.
Kent's property is forfeit.
Kent lectures at length about the need to release drug-addled soulmates from prison.
Kent.. hang on, let me check... Yep, still there!
The apologist will wave this away. "It is a test! A test!" On this point I have no qualm. The test has been applied again and again, and Kent has failed again and again, and will continue to fail until this blog shows a letter from Kent that starts "My God, what have I done?"
Posted by: Arguendo | August 1, 2009 3:35 PM
I read Kent's latest knee mail about letting folks out at half of their sentance and all that. It was actually an interesting read and I agreed with much of what he said actually, which surprised me.
He's a jackass but he actually made some good points.
Posted by: DLC | August 1, 2009 9:28 PM
Okay, so Kent's world comes to an end. So he'll have to start over. First, he'll need a tent. because there has to be a firmament overhead. Then, he can hang a lantern on the tent pole and light it. Saying, let there be light. And, while the fuel lasts (8 days if you do it right) there will be light. and it will be good. Then Kent can add some dirt and some water. A puddle of mud in the tent, off to one side, will be fine. Then, Kent can beg for some plastic army men or maybe some Ken and Barbie dolls, and some animal crackers.
See, he'll have created the heavens and the earth, and it'll only take him about a week! If he can get his Prison buddy Lou to help.
Posted by: Bryan Elliott | August 1, 2009 11:57 PM
"Why not make it the site of the first nuclear fusion generator."
I say build a prototype LFTR; we're at least close to making one of those work.
Posted by: Paul Murray | August 2, 2009 12:49 AM
"Okay, so Kent's world comes to an end. So he'll have to start over."
And why not? Peter Popoff is back on the air. I'd like to keep dino wolrd just as it is, with the addition of an adults-only section depicting the sexual misdemeanors of all the various TV preachers, and a flowchart showing where the money went that all the good christians gave to the lord to build dino-world.
Posted by: CulturalIconography | August 2, 2009 6:31 AM
Poor Dr. Dino. Guess he forgot to fill out his W-4, and God didn't remind him. But...God is infallible, so he must have done it on purpose. To test his faith?
From another POV, since God is omniscient, wouldn't he have seen this coming? Couldn't he stop it? But he didn't.
Must be part of that "moves in mysterious ways" thing...
Posted by: Prometevsberg | August 3, 2009 10:33 AM
Is it just me, or is somebody else also thinking:
Befuddled lawyer get appointed administrator of seized creationist dinosaur park; hilarity ensues=TV pilot?
Posted by: GotReason | August 3, 2009 11:49 AM
Google Street View has some shots for those wanting to size up your potential real estate purchase remotely.
This appears to be the main location the Hovind's ministry (Look EAST to see the sign and building. Parking lot is to the Southeast). Here's a little bit better view of the building (look EAST).
This appears to be the main entrance for the Dino Adventure Land (look EAST). If we go around the block to Cummings road, this appears to also be another entrance to DAL (look WEST this time).
The article mention's that Eric's house on Cummings road is NOT for sale. According to Google, Eric lives at 23 Cummings Road. If you look to the WEST from this vantage point, you'll see two houses. One of them is probably Eric's and is NOT for sale. The other one is possibly included in the 9 properties for sale.
One of the two houses has a Dinosaur Adventure Land sign in front of it (look WEST) and the other has a Dinosaur Adventure Land trailer parked in front of it (look WEST).
Those two properties are the only two in that that have a sidewalk in front of them so, I'm guessing they're related. Possibly Kent & Jo lived at one and Eric and family lives at the other. I think I remember from one of Kent's videos he emphasizes how the ministry is a family affair.
Posted by: Rae Ross | August 3, 2009 2:15 PM
Praise Dog this testement to scientific illiteracy is going the way of the dinosaurs. On some level I find it poetic and just.
Posted by: Calilasseia | August 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You know what would be really poetic justice?
Kent's scammy theme park is bought by someone who then hands the whole lot, lock, stock and barrel, to Eugenie Scott and Barbara Forrest, who then turn it into a real science exhibition, aided by some of the best in the business. What's more, unlike that other scamster Ken Ham, they won't have to charge $20 a pop to view the contents.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 5, 2009 1:53 PM
Oh it's way more than forgetting to fill out his W-4.
Posted by: Pharmd107 | August 27, 2009 7:29 AM
Very nice site!