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Category: Creationism
Posted on: July 8, 2009 3:21 PM, by PZ Myers
Look what came in the mail today:
It's an iPod Touch from Eric Hovind! It's impossible to read in this photo, but it has a nice engraving on the back: the Creation Minute logo, and this message.
To PZ Myers
In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with God.
The CSE Team
Isn't that nice? I'd been hoping they'd add some little distinguishing touch like that to it — it makes for a splendid victory trophy.
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Comments
Posted by: Kraid | July 8, 2009 3:30 PM
Pure awesome.
Posted by: Penny | July 8, 2009 3:31 PM
At least they were honest enough to send it - even though 'twas won by the spawn of the devil. :-)
Posted by: King Aardvark | July 8, 2009 3:32 PM
Congrats! That's a well-deserved prize.
Posted by: Slinky | July 8, 2009 3:34 PM
Awesome...that's all there is to say on the matter.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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July 8, 2009 3:34 PM
Awesome. Glad to be of help.
Posted by: Tully
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July 8, 2009 3:34 PM
Congratulations! Now will it hang on the wall, like a trophy, or will it be filled with lectures by Dawkins?
Posted by: TBRP | July 8, 2009 3:34 PM
So was it just those inane 1 minute videos on it, or did you get *all new* propaganda?
Posted by: Sili
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July 8, 2009 3:39 PM
Hat's off to them. That's remarkably graceful.
I think I'll have to reserve a little respect for the buggers for the time being.
Posted by: alexreed | July 8, 2009 3:39 PM
Congrats PZ!!! Just think, your Ipod was bought with some dupes tithe money. HA!
Posted by: Watchman | July 8, 2009 3:40 PM
I wonder if PZ can get them to send a camera to Kwok.
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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July 8, 2009 3:42 PM
Now there's a forlorn hope.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
Posted by: alexreed | July 8, 2009 3:43 PM
Congrats PZ! Just think, your Ipod was purchased with some fundie's tithe money. HA!
Posted by: Brock | July 8, 2009 3:44 PM
Well that was awfully nice of them! They held a contest, made it relatively simple for you to win, and even customized it a bit. I mean, it's still a functional iPod Touch, after all.
Now, do you plan to keep it, or auction it off for a genuinely educational cause? For what you'd get you may be able to buy 2 of the same model AND make a nice donation ;)
Posted by: Bert Chadick | July 8, 2009 3:45 PM
Kudos PZ! Get the Air Mouse app. It's great for presentations.
Posted by: Kristjan Wager | July 8, 2009 3:46 PM
There. Fixed that for them.
Congratulations PZ
Posted by: PZ Myers
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July 8, 2009 3:47 PM
It includes all of those one minute videos, and also 8 of Kent Hovind's long-winded creation seminars, each an hour to two hours long. I don't think I'll be able to stand having them on here.
Posted by: recovering catholic | July 8, 2009 3:47 PM
Hearty congratulations, PZ! I wasn't going to believe it until I saw it in your hot little hand (which I presume that is in the photo). Use it to take photos at the Ham Museum.
Posted by: uppity cracka | July 8, 2009 3:50 PM
Kwok-camera-good one, Watchman.
Posted by: Quidam
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July 8, 2009 3:51 PM
My experience is indeed that the search for Truth all too often does end with God. Like a concrete block on the Truth expressway. It's not that you've arrived at your destination, but it sure stops the journey.
Posted by: Mystyk | July 8, 2009 3:53 PM
I despise basically everything that Hovind and CSE stand for, but I can't say they cheated in their own contest or that they are insincere in their beliefs. Hats off to them for following through with their promise, then immediately back on for all the other BS.
Posted by: MaleficVTwin
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July 8, 2009 3:54 PM
They have that hope, which is why they are as deluded as they are.
Posted by: Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
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July 8, 2009 3:55 PM
Kristjan #8 beat me to it...
Posted by: Michelle R
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July 8, 2009 3:56 PM
Congrats PZ! Cherish it! :P
My quest for truth will end with chocolate cake.
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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July 8, 2009 3:58 PM
I thought that's why you wanted it.
To have the words of such a science expert...
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
Posted by: zaardvark | July 8, 2009 3:58 PM
Charity auction?
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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July 8, 2009 4:02 PM
I'm impressed that Hovind was gracious enough to send you your prize.
Posted by: TGAP Dad | July 8, 2009 4:02 PM
Come to think of it, the quest for truth DOES end with god. Once you get god, the quest certainly ends, and the truth remains undiscovered.
Posted by: Porco Dio | July 8, 2009 4:02 PM
You're Welcome!
happy monkey!
Posted by: Doubting Foo | July 8, 2009 4:03 PM
It's rigged to provide subliminal suggestions to believe in God.
Posted by: moioci | July 8, 2009 4:04 PM
Personally, my quest for TRUTH will end with CAKE -- or DEATH!
Posted by: Qwerty | July 8, 2009 4:07 PM
It must be Biblical as it has Eve's apple on it! (After she bite it.)
Posted by: IceFarmer | July 8, 2009 4:09 PM
Kwok is like, so insanely jealous right now! And Hovind is probably more certain that this was the work of Satan! LOL! Way to go!
Posted by: Cathal | July 8, 2009 4:09 PM
Devil has all the best tunes and all that
Posted by: Timothy | July 8, 2009 4:09 PM
You've made history today, PZ. For the first time I'm jealous of someone with an iPod.
Are you going to mount it on the wall next to the heads of your vanquished foes?
Posted by: tms | July 8, 2009 4:12 PM
Hey PZ,
Perhaps you could load a few Dawkins lectures onto it, include a pithy addendum to the engraved sentiment, and by doing so, add to its value as an auction item.
Tom
Posted by: bioephemera | July 8, 2009 4:13 PM
That's cute!
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2009 4:13 PM
To PZ Myers
In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with A LIE.
The CSE Team
*fixed
Posted by: Ric | July 8, 2009 4:18 PM
I have to say, I give them credit. I thought they'd try to weasel out of giving it to you.
Posted by: James F | July 8, 2009 4:18 PM
Awesome. Now, what can you win from Harun Yahya?
Posted by: bPer | July 8, 2009 4:19 PM
I'm surprised they didn't mis-spell your name. That seems to be the usual creationist MO.
Posted by: Beige | July 8, 2009 4:19 PM
To PZ Myers
In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with ALE.
The CSE Team
*fixed again :)
But no seriously, congratulations on the epic win.
Posted by: Rheinhard | July 8, 2009 4:21 PM
And everyone here can take a small bit of pleasure in the knowledge that they helped!
Posted by: pixelfish | July 8, 2009 4:21 PM
Yay to them for following through. I hope you enjoy your new iPod. Now you can fill it up with episodes of Mr. Deity.
Posted by: Alex | July 8, 2009 4:22 PM
You should compliment them on their honesty. After all, you assumed they wouldn't actually give you the iPod.
Posted by: daveau
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July 8, 2009 4:23 PM
You're not going to drive a rusty nail through it and throw it in the trash?
Posted by: Desert Son, OM
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July 8, 2009 4:23 PM
Congratulations, PZ, and Happy Monkey, and Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
No kings,
Robert
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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July 8, 2009 4:24 PM
Does (did?) the pod feature any personalized Au/Vid/Txt messages from Old Man Hovind, himself? Surely they wouldn't miss an opportunity to witness directly to one of the evilest evilutionists of them all.
['twas commendable that they took the time to personalize it (and even award it, as well)]
Posted by: Watchman | July 8, 2009 4:24 PM
I think he'd rather drink a Rusty Nail, and put on some Garbage.
Posted by: Roland Branconnier | July 8, 2009 4:25 PM
"In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with God." That's a creationist oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Posted by: Pustulio | July 8, 2009 4:25 PM
As I skimmed my RSS feed, at first I thought the title was "My little pony".
Posted by: tacitus
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July 8, 2009 4:26 PM
Kudos to Eric Hovind for following through and sending PZ the iTouch. I sincerely doubt his father would have done as much.
So, it's not the "truth" or even the "Truth" that he hopes PZ will find, but the "TRUTH"? Is that like some "HOLLYWOOD" sign up on a hillside somewhere?
Posted by: JBlilie | July 8, 2009 4:26 PM
Congratulations! I'm a bit surprised they followed through. I suppose they consider it a chance to "save" a heathen. Well, they are saving you some money anyway!
Posted by: BeamStalk | July 8, 2009 4:27 PM
Awesome, congrats PZ!
Posted by: Lucas Cantor | July 8, 2009 4:32 PM
Well done, good sir. Now please, delete whatever videos came on it. Or, better yet, post them online... for detailed analysis!
Posted by: Carlie | July 8, 2009 4:33 PM
I am also impressed that they sent it, and with a fairly innocuous inscription. I would also bet that a charity auction would allow you to replace it and send, say, Planned Parenthood or the NCSE a tidy sum. :)
Posted by: Steve Ulven | July 8, 2009 4:33 PM
Beautiful. Now it's time to jailbreak that sucker with firmware 3.0.
Posted by: Technogeek | July 8, 2009 4:33 PM
But I thought the cake was a lie!
(You may now throw rotten fruit at me.)
Posted by: Stu
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July 8, 2009 4:33 PM
So, it's not the "truth" or even the "Truth" that he hopes PZ will find, but the "TRUTH"? Is that like some "HOLLYWOOD" sign up on a hillside somewhere?
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
Posted by: arensb | July 8, 2009 4:35 PM
You may want to keep those Hovind lectures around for when you give talks to skeptics' groups: play a five-minute segment and see how many logical fallacies they can find.
Actually, I think that'd be more of a test of how quickly the audience can remember and write down the names of fallacies, but it could still be fun.
Posted by: mxh | July 8, 2009 4:37 PM
very nice! Congratulations. I am very surprised that you actually received it.
Posted by: chuko | July 8, 2009 4:37 PM
Congrats, PZ! And how surprisingly classy of them, too. Good PR move on their part.
Posted by: BMcP | July 8, 2009 4:38 PM
Congrats, you sir win an Internet, take one, not two, just one.
Posted by: recovering catholic | July 8, 2009 4:38 PM
Oooh--ouch, Quidam!!! Excellent!!! FTW, as the younger ones say!
Posted by: Tom Woolf | July 8, 2009 4:39 PM
#12 - yeah, but what if that tithing was made possible by the tither (is that a real word?) not spending money on their kid's vaccinations? ;-)
Congrats PZ! You just keep telling us where to go! (but be polite about it, please)
Posted by: ethin | July 8, 2009 4:42 PM
With religion, the search for truth ends with god. With science, the search for truth never ends. I know which one I prefer!
Posted by: tyaddow | July 8, 2009 4:46 PM
PZ said:
Now that your victory is complete, may we have a glimpse of your evil plan? I have a feeling it will be better than the rusty nail treatment...
Posted by: Doug Little | July 8, 2009 4:46 PM
At least you know it's legit. If some of the inscription wasn't written in caps I would be calling it a fake. I'm surprised that the TRUTH wasn't also in quote marks.
Posted by: Jake Kaufman | July 8, 2009 4:47 PM
Congrats. Glad I didn't keep visiting that horrible site for nothing.
Posted by: Sili
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July 8, 2009 4:48 PM
pixelfiiiiiiiish!
Posted by: Feynmaniac | July 8, 2009 4:49 PM
Sheesh, even when they engrave they overuse caps.
Posted by: sasqwatch
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July 8, 2009 4:50 PM
TGAP #27 beat me to it.
ALL quests for truth end with God.
Posted by: Tulse | July 8, 2009 4:51 PM
Ditto -- it shows some good sportsmanship, at the very least.
Posted by: Tulse | July 8, 2009 4:56 PM
Ditto -- it shows some good sportsmanship, at the very least.
Posted by: Optimus Primate | July 8, 2009 4:56 PM
@moioci #30:
We're all out of cake!
Posted by: Benjamin Geiger | July 8, 2009 4:57 PM
Technogeek @ #57:
This was a triumph...
Posted by: Justin Chase | July 8, 2009 4:57 PM
The wording of the engraving is more than a little ironic, since the quest for truth usually does end when people find God.
Posted by: JackC
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July 8, 2009 4:59 PM
Congrats PZ! I am so pleased my small effort every day helped out.
I have not had the stomach to go back - but has there been ANY mention made of the winners on the site? Specifically, their particular philosophical bent?
JC
Posted by: Walter Silveira | July 8, 2009 4:59 PM
Oh sweet victory.
Also, Justin at #76 hit the nail on the head.
[Or the wrists and ankles]
Posted by: Snarla | July 8, 2009 5:00 PM
PZ, is your al-jazeera interview available to the masses yet?
Posted by: Jim | July 8, 2009 5:00 PM
I can't believe how many people are tipping their hat to this guy. All he did was what he was expected to do! It was a contest. PZ won, fair and square. He doesn't deserve accolades for doing what he was supposed to do anyway.
And putting that customized slap-in-the-face on the back was just their own personal disrespectful intolerance. It reeks of only doing it because they thought their god wanted them to, and in the hopes that they can "change" PZ.
Glad they sent it, but they'll no compliments from me.
Posted by: Evil Eye | July 8, 2009 5:02 PM
So they are trying to lure you to God with an APPLE!?
HA!
Posted by: Richard Smith | July 8, 2009 5:02 PM
I always thought that the quest for TRUTH ended in UTH.
Posted by: Tulse | July 8, 2009 5:05 PM
It would have been perfect if the engraving had used Comic Sans.
Posted by: Parse
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July 8, 2009 5:05 PM
It's a very... creationist-ic... viewpoint to think that a quest for truth has an endpoint.
Posted by: henry harrison | July 8, 2009 5:06 PM
Sorry, been away for a while. What was the contest?
Posted by: Penny | July 8, 2009 5:06 PM
#79
He's getting accolades because no-one expected him to behave like a normal human being...
Posted by: gypsytag | July 8, 2009 5:08 PM
you just need to modify the quote to read....
In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end God.
That makes it perfect.
Posted by: Joffan | July 8, 2009 5:12 PM
Quidam #19:
We have a winner!
Posted by: SLC | July 8, 2009 5:13 PM
OT but Francis Collins was named Director of the NIH minutes ago.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=atJa8QDGj8QU
Posted by: Savior Breath | July 8, 2009 5:23 PM
The engraving once again demonstrates that the meaning of "truth" is inverted when capitalized.
Posted by: segfault | July 8, 2009 5:27 PM
Benjamin Geiger @ #75:
I'm making a note here:
Huge success...
Posted by: FaroeseAtheist | July 8, 2009 5:30 PM
^
|
|
Salutes you!
Posted by: Itchy Brother | July 8, 2009 5:37 PM
Might I suggest that you add the songs "Dumb All Over" and "Heavenly Bank Account" by Frank Zappa. Just because.
Posted by: gypsytag | July 8, 2009 5:37 PM
that poor poor ipod has been raped and sullied.
it can no longer play the music with joy in its processor.
it has the stink of christ on it.
Posted by: donna | July 8, 2009 5:39 PM
You should load it with lots of inspirational music -- Jesus of Suburbia, for instance...
Posted by: Alan E. | July 8, 2009 5:47 PM
Won't all of the data just disappear once you plug it into a computer and set it up on iTunes?
Posted by: MikeM | July 8, 2009 5:47 PM
I know how you can fix the engraving.
Just go to Things Remembered, and have them add either:
"dess"
or
"Dammit"
Posted by: NelC | July 8, 2009 5:53 PM
Bravo, PZ! I hope they didn't fill the thing with those videos. Can you extract them for research purposes?
Posted by: Kismet | July 8, 2009 5:53 PM
This is just epic.
Posted by: Joe Cracker | July 8, 2009 5:56 PM
GREAT!
So now you can give it forward to the people that made it possible. You could have a contest on the forums and the best get the Ipod.
Fair enough?
Posted by: Last Hussar | July 8, 2009 5:57 PM
#74, so my options are "Or Death"?
Actually I find the inscription 'nice'- rather heartfelt. I think they are genuinely worried for you, PZ.
Posted by: Kobra | July 8, 2009 5:58 PM
I vote that PZ sends all the contents of the iPod to Thunderf00t to be properly eviscerated in front of a Youtube audience.
Posted by: REBoho
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July 8, 2009 5:58 PM
In order to remove the Creationist electrons from your new iPod, you could take it to Anchorhead to have it's memory flushed or you could load it with a dark, evil devil playlist. I fired up the playlist software and got this from my collection:
Devils Haircut - Beck - Odelay
Evil Town - The Vines - Winning Days
Nebakanezer - The Black Crowes- Three Snakes And One Charm
Evil Hearted You - The Yardbirds - Greatest Hits
The Black Angel's Death Song - The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
Me And The Devil Blues - Robert Johnson - King Of The Delta Blues Singers - Vol1
Devil's Den - James Brown - Star Time - Disc 1 - Mr. Dynamite
Sometimes Salvation - The Black Crowes - The Southern Harmony And Musical Companion
Devil's Grip - Crazy World of Arthur Brown - The Psychedelic Years Revisited (disc 2: Back in the British Isles)
Eve White / Eve Black - Siouxsie and the Banshees - Nocturne
Black Sheep Boy - Paul Weller - Wild Wood [Deluxe Edition]
The Long Black Veil - Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
Black Satin Dancer - Jethro Tull - Minstrel in the Gallery
This Devil's Workday - Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News
The Devil Came From Kansas - Procol Harum - The Best of Procol Harum
Black Sunday - Jethro Tull - The 25th Anniversary Box Set (disc 1: Classic Songs)
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden - Superunknown
Black - Pearl Jam - Ten
Iron Man - Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Magic Woman - Santana - Lotus (disc 1)
Back In Black - AC/DC - Back In Black
Evil Ways - Black Mountain - In The Future
Sympathy For The Devil - Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet
Devil in Disguise - J.J. Cale - Grasshopper
Blackbird - The Beatles - The White Album
Preaching Blues (Up Jumped The Devil) - Robert Johnson - King Of The Delta Blues Singers - Vol1
Parchman Farm Blues/ Preachin' Blues (Up Jumped The Devil) - Jeff Buckley - Grace (Legacy Edition)
Angels and Devils - Love and Rockets - Express
Friend of the Devil - Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Lil' Devil - The Cult - Electric
Black Flowers - Yo La Tengo - I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass
Little Church - Miles Davis - Live-Evil Disc 1
Black Mountain Side - Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin I
Sympathy For The Devil - Big Dish - (Live BBC studio recording)
Race With Devil on Spanish Highway - Al Dimeola - Elegant Gypsy
Black Sky - Sam Phillips - Martinis and Bikinis
Black Flame (LP Version) - Renaissance - Turn Of The Cards
Devil Song - Beth Orton - Central Reservation
She Talks To Angels - The Black Crowes - Out Of The Nest (Early Demos)
Black Friday - Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Black Cadillac - Rosanne Cash - SXSW 2006 Showcasing Artist
Black Star - Radiohead - The Bends
Black & White - Sarah Mclachlan - Surfacing
Paranoid - Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Milk - Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Black Swan - Thom Yorke - The Eraser
Some Unholy War - Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Pot kettle black - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Line Between the Devil's Teeth (And That Which Cannot Be Repeat) - Peter Murphy - Deep
Karn Evil 9: 1st Impression, Part 1 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - The Ultimate Collection (disc 3: Live at Anaheim, 1973-1974)
Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black) - Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Rust Never Sleeps
Black Coffee in Bed - Squeeze - Singles: 45's and Under
Back to Black - Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Christine's Tune (A.K.A. Devil in Disguise) - The Flying Burrito Brothers - Sin City: The Very Best of the Flying Burrito Brothers
Lucky Devil - Mekons - Retreat From Memphis
Devil With A Blue Dress-On Good Golly Miss Molly - Mitch Ryder And The Detroit Wheels - Only Rock 'n Roll 1965 - 1969
Black Rooster - The Kills - Keep On Your Mean Side (reissue + 5 bonus tracks)
Black Country Woman - Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti (Disc 2)
Black Dog - Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV (1994 Remaster)
Posted by: Aquaria | July 8, 2009 6:03 PM
I don't think this Hovind creep deserves praise for acting like a normal human being by doing what he said he would do. Pretty low bar for praise.
The cynic in me thinks he didn't dare not give it out, to avoid the media circus that might follow, like the expelled from Expelled incident.
Posted by: Nate | July 8, 2009 6:08 PM
I notice you photographed the iPod with your iPhone. haha
Nice!
Posted by: Watchman | July 8, 2009 6:11 PM
Savior Breath: Have you ever heard a song called "Did Jesus Have a Baby Sister" by Dory Previn?
Posted by: Dania
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July 8, 2009 6:14 PM
Congrats, PZ! Glad my clicks helped.
Now what do you plan to do with it...?
Posted by: Rob Clack | July 8, 2009 6:14 PM
I'm with Sili #8. (Not read the other 100 comments) Graceful acquiescence does them no harm. They're still silly fantacists, mind you.
Posted by: Greg | July 8, 2009 6:14 PM
I would recommend the free Bible app from the app store. You can mark the verses you invoke often and bring them up instantly with just a touch and a swipe. Great for debating those young earthers.
Posted by: Darren Garrison | July 8, 2009 6:14 PM
Did you sniff it? The possibility of stinkpalm comes to mind...
Posted by: Alverant | July 8, 2009 6:21 PM
The idiot misspelled "reality" as "god". I wonder how his site is going to spin this. I bet he's so proud to get this one little jab in, never realizing how silly it makes him look.
Posted by: Savior Breath | July 8, 2009 6:25 PM
Watchman,
Saviourette?
Saviourwoman?
Saviourperson?
Save your breath!
Nice.
Posted by: J | July 8, 2009 6:26 PM
Well I for one am very surprised, and as hard as it is for me to say, my hat's off to Eric Hovind.
Posted by: Dennis | July 8, 2009 6:29 PM
Holy crap... you ACTUALLY got it.
Posted by: Canary | July 8, 2009 6:30 PM
Is Eric Hovind next in line to go to prison? Or will his father have advice for him how not to get caught again.
Posted by: Canary | July 8, 2009 6:34 PM
Is Eric Hovind next in line to go to prison? Or will his father have advice for him how not to get caught again.
Posted by: Chemgirl
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July 8, 2009 6:36 PM
Stu @58:
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
I feel like a pest for quote-commenting a post from so far up, but I can't resist praising a good Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
Praise be to Bob!
Posted by: Felix | July 8, 2009 6:37 PM
PZ, I must agree strongly with one or more of the above comments, noting that this iPod is a trap. It will subliminally convert you, and we can't have that Damocles sord hanging over you.
Therefore I have heavy-heartedly resolved to volunteer to take this dangerous instrument off you.
I am poor and in need of education, so it would benefit me greatly if you would fill its memory with educational material and then promptly send it to me. My education could benefit a few people (I could make YouTube videos), and when the day comes when I will succumb to their insidious messages, at least the world will not have lost a professional educator.
I mean it.
Please?
Posted by: Dennis N
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July 8, 2009 6:40 PM
That would be much better.
Posted by: onotheo | July 8, 2009 6:47 PM
(^-^)
jajajaja!
Posted by: pdferguson
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July 8, 2009 6:50 PM
Apparently, sometimes pigs do fly...
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | July 8, 2009 6:50 PM
A post, ~120 comments, & not one byte of link love to "Mr. Eric Hovind"'s humble site.
Damn, atheists are a mean & ungrateful bunch.
Posted by: Dennis N
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July 8, 2009 6:55 PM
Hey now, Pierce R. Butler, I didn't know he was giving all atheists iPods, I thought it was just PZ and 2 others. Is mine in the mail? If so, I'll show him love.
Posted by: Dagger | July 8, 2009 6:56 PM
They actually sent it? Huh. I'll admit, I'm almost impressed- good sportsmanship on their part, at least.
And I second the suggestion to forward these videos to Thunderf00t.
Posted by: Rickard Kong | July 8, 2009 7:05 PM
@#101: There's always a little bit of tea lying around.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | July 8, 2009 7:09 PM
Mr. Eric Hovind: please see Dennis N @ # 123!
Ask yourself: what would [insert role model of choice] do?
Posted by: Blackrend | July 8, 2009 7:12 PM
CONGRATS, PZ!!!
Posted by: Scotty | July 8, 2009 7:26 PM
Respect to him for being a good sport.
Well done on your win!
Posted by: Wowbagger, OM | July 8, 2009 7:27 PM
Congratulations, PZ. Some songs you could add for their appropriate lyrical content:
Dear God - XTC
Tomorrow Wendy - Andy Prieboy & Johnette Napolitano
Imagine - John Lennon
Heresy - Nine Inch Nails
Laughing With - Regina Spektor
Jesus He Knows Me - Genesis
God - Tori Amos
Judith - A Perfect Circle
Posted by: Platypus | July 8, 2009 7:33 PM
If you're looking for things to do with your new toy, I highly recommend the application "Papers" by Mekentosj.
http://mekentosj.com/papers/iphone/
It lets you carry around PDF research articles with you, for reading on planes, or looking up a figure that came up while you were talking about at a conference, and so on. If you have wireless internet access, you can even search databases and download PDFs right to your iPod.
Posted by: Mr T | July 8, 2009 7:34 PM
Your quest for IPOD will end with Awesome.
Posted by: The Tim Channel
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July 8, 2009 7:58 PM
You'll want the following free apps.
Remote (control your Itunes library on your computer by wifi)
Skype - Turns your Ipod into a wifi phone (requires headphone/mic combo option)
Weather Channel has a nice app that beats the one standard on the Ipod.
Huffington Post and NYTimes apps.
Twitter.
Enjoy.
Posted by: Agersomnia | July 8, 2009 8:09 PM
Congrats, PZ!
It looks nice indeed!
Posted by: BCReason | July 8, 2009 8:24 PM
You should post the videos somewhere where everyone can see.
We need to show them we're not afraid of being suddenly converted to creationists by these silly videos.
Of course you can also post video or text debunking the Hovind stuff in the same place.
Make sure you don't violate copyright. They got testy with some debunkers on Youtube that included clips from Hovind videos.
Posted by: BCReason | July 8, 2009 8:27 PM
You should post the videos somewhere where everyone can see.
We need to show them we're not afraid of being suddenly converted to creationists by these silly videos.
Of course you can also post video or text debunking the Hovind stuff in the same place.
Make sure you don't violate copyright. They got testy with some debunkers on Youtube that included clips from Hovind videos.
Posted by: Alan Kellogg | July 8, 2009 8:39 PM
Hope you enjoy it.
Now keep in mind that while the search for truth may lead to God, it doesn't necessarily mean Hovind's idea of God. More often than we think the destination turns out to be something unexpected.
Along with the other song suggestions I have a couple of my own:
Legend of a Mind The Moody Blues (aka "Timothy Leary")
Don Quixote Gordon Lightfoot
A post or two on what comes up during random play would be nice BTW.
Posted by: David Edwards | July 8, 2009 8:56 PM
Wow, Hovind ponied up. I thought he'd make an excuse to bail out when he discovered that all his iPods had been won by atheists.
Oh, and that little extra trophy for you to display, PZ, once again constitutes win for the reality defenders.
Posted by: Metatwaddle | July 8, 2009 9:00 PM
That's... surprisingly gracious of Eric Hovind, actually.
Posted by: Dorkman | July 8, 2009 9:09 PM
It looks like it's actually engraved in Comic Sans. Please tell me it's so.
Posted by: Gallstones
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July 8, 2009 9:13 PM
Yay Peez, what a coup! So the guy came through. Wow. I think you need to load some Poets of the Fall on it.
Posted by: inajeep
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July 8, 2009 9:26 PM
Squeal. I love it. Happy you got it and they sent it.
Posted by: Greg Laden
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July 8, 2009 9:27 PM
Here's what I think. You won with a cheap trick. Anybody who happens to have the most widely read science blog on the planet could have done the win-by-click thing.
If it had been an essay contest, you would not have won. You would not have won even if you'd written the best essay you've ever written on this site, which is this one:
http://tinyurl.com/5nukn5
And I sincerely mean that. The part about it being the best essay and the part about not likely to win a contest by K.H.
Posted by: llewelly | July 8, 2009 9:42 PM
Go back and read the threads. Nearly everyone expected Eric Hovind to disqualify PZ on some flimsy prerequisite. Creationists have set the bar for honesty pretty low.Posted by: Scooty Puff Jr. | July 8, 2009 9:42 PM
OK, so here's what you do: plug in the iPod touch, wait for iTunes to open, select it in the Devices list, then click Restore. iTunes will kindly wipe every trace of the creationist filth off your lovely new iPod. Except, of course, for the engraving. You're stuck with that. Sorry.
It's got to pain Steve Jobs to know that his devices are sometimes used by likes of a Hovind or a Limbaugh for such outright batshittery.
Posted by: llewelly | July 8, 2009 9:45 PM
One reason for PZ entering the contest was prove it was vulnerable to cheap tricks. (Although it's arguably more important that the victory can be used to mock creationism, and that it keeps an ipod touch full of dangerous delusions away from the vulnerable.)
Posted by: Dinosaur Teacher | July 8, 2009 10:06 PM
I screamed in joy the moment I scrolled down to the picture. I didn't even need know what the text.
May I also recommend:
Lordi- The Devil is a Loser
Something Corporate - The Bible is Bullshit
Posted by: Ilya Gotfryd | July 8, 2009 10:28 PM
News worthy for sure.
Posted by: Ritchie Annand | July 8, 2009 10:38 PM
Look at those glowing red fingers. You can almost sense the holy/nonholy reaction!
Posted by: alnonymous | July 8, 2009 10:51 PM
Awesome! This had a much better payoff than poll-crashing.
Posted by: Sherry
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July 8, 2009 10:52 PM
I recommend you get with a real techy geeky teen/young adult to show you some of the really cool things you can do with the Touch. (Even tho it's not an Iphone)
Posted by: Smgumby | July 8, 2009 10:59 PM
Wow. The engraving is almost classy of them!
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | July 8, 2009 11:08 PM
Isn't the T. Wife likely to have, ah, issues with you addressing your little toy with that particular endearment?
Posted by: Pat | July 8, 2009 11:25 PM
Some good song recommends above. I'd add:
Kiss Me, Son of God by They Might Be Giants
Jumping in Gomorrah by XTC
Plus some of the great skeptical, atheist and scientific podcasts out there:
Skeptic's Guide to the Universe
Skeptic Zone
Skepticality
Atheist Experience
MN Atheists (of course)
Freethought Radio
Sciam Podcast
Nature Podcast
And heck, just throw in stuff like Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me for fun.
Congratulations PZ, running a blog has finally paid off for you ;-)
Posted by: TuxedoCartman
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July 8, 2009 11:28 PM
Segfault @ #91
Is PZ involved in Aperture Science? I thought he was a biologist.
Posted by: Asemodeus | July 8, 2009 11:49 PM
Load it up with seveal gigs of George Carlin. That will help purge the stink off of the hard drive.
Posted by: Evolving Squid | July 8, 2009 11:52 PM
I'm impressed that he actually made good on the iPod challenge. I seriously expected him to issue some kind of rant about how the atheists cheated due to their lack of morality, and award the prize to someone else... someone who couldn't be easily contacted for verification of prize receipt.
Posted by: Jeff S | July 8, 2009 11:57 PM
The engraving is pretty cool.
I think its funny that everyone is so used to creationists lying they are shocked they would follow through with the contest. PZ did exactely what they wanted. Its not like he cheated.
Posted by: Nominal Egg | July 9, 2009 12:37 AM
OT, but Greg Laden's link reminds me that we are coming up on the first anniversary of the conclusion of Crackergate (July 24th). Are you going to have a party, PZ?
Oh, and Greg, sour grapes make bitter wine.
Posted by: Andrew | July 9, 2009 12:40 AM
Congradulations, PZ, with the cost of having to erase Hovindganda and having to read about "the truth in God" on the back or your iG...sorry iPod. Hmm, how much would it cost to re-grave the back of your iPod as opposed to buying one? xD
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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July 9, 2009 1:14 AM
@Pat [153],
Add Skeptoid and Are We Alone? to that list.
{amongst others [IG, P.o.I., Reasonable Doubts, Science (mag)...]}
Posted by: Peterd102
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July 9, 2009 1:22 AM
'Hope that your quest for truth ends in GOD[LESS appreciation of the EVIDENCE]'
Posted by: Kevin Schreck | July 9, 2009 1:24 AM
So much win. And a custom engraving, too!
Posted by: Lotharloo | July 9, 2009 2:10 AM
I'll eat my words. This turn out to be really funny.
Posted by: Xander | July 9, 2009 2:35 AM
Cause once God's dead we'll no longer need to search!
Posted by: jimmiraybob | July 9, 2009 2:38 AM
161 - 'Hope that your quest for truth ends in GOD[LESS appreciation of the EVIDENCE]'
It's TRUTH. TRUTH has nothing to do with truth. TRUTH means mistrusting and even hating truth. TRUTH means enhancing, hiding, or obliterating truth when truth appears to threaten TRUTH. TRUTH can be supported and glorified by fabrication and false evidence whereby truth is made untrue. In TRUTH Theory a truth-lie can be true and virtuous and is to be sought after. In the truth worldview, however, one seeks to identify truth-lies as detrimental. TRUTH is constrained only by imagination and the Bible. Truth has many constraints.
The Book of FSM 12:3-9
Posted by: MPG | July 9, 2009 3:50 AM
BCReason:
Yes, in spite of the fact that Kent Hovind himself proudly declares they are "not copyrighted" and encourages people to "get this stuff and spread it around". In fact, I would guess the Kent Hovind videos on PZ's prize are the same ones that have already been thoroughly eviscerated by a couple of students on YouTube - search for "ExtantDodo" and you'll find them. Even if they're not the exact same recordings, you can bet the same tired old points will be brought up in them anyway,
Posted by: Muffin | July 9, 2009 5:15 AM
"In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with God."
Oh, sure, can do: "there is no God." See? It's the truth, and it ends with God. That was easy.
Posted by: Chris | July 9, 2009 5:36 AM
Well done PZ. As for all the suggestions as to what PZ should do with it now, like auction it off for charity or put it up for grabs on this site, why don't we let PZ decide what to do with it. Like keep it and use it perhaps?
Posted by: Flea | July 9, 2009 5:44 AM
This gadget can't sit on your shelf alone PZ. You should start a post asking for ideas to give this lovely present a bright, scientific and atheistic future.
Posted by: MadScientist | July 9, 2009 5:57 AM
Oh, isn't that sweet - what a nice way to say "I hope you burn in hell".
The iPod deserves a small glass trophy case for those times it's more appropriate to display than to wear.
I hope you wrote to thank him for the iPod. :) God works in mysterious ways ...
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Dogmeat | July 9, 2009 6:56 AM
Yeah, gonna have to agree with what the others have been saying, it's pretty good of them to fulfill their end of the deal. They might make a big deal out of it on their website later and take the moral high ground or something, but still.
Posted by: RickWeimer | July 9, 2009 7:07 AM
Just in case, I would erase it's flash memory at least 5 times before doing anything else - It might be infected...
Posted by: Gordy | July 9, 2009 7:13 AM
I love the way they've put "truth" in block capitals :) It's such an instantly recognisable style...
Still, props to them for being honest enough to send it. Makes my clicking seem worthwhile, which is more than their videos did.
Posted by: Dancaban | July 9, 2009 7:28 AM
Miracles do happen! Anything else we can click-win for you?
Posted by: chad | July 9, 2009 8:07 AM
You should really write a letter of thanks.
Posted by: norumaru | July 9, 2009 8:44 AM
I can't help but notice the classy caps lock. Cruise control for truth, now, apparently.
Anyway, congrats on your new thingamajig. What will you fill it with?
Posted by: teresa | July 9, 2009 9:51 AM
PZ,as someone suggested above, you could make a lot of money for a good science cause if you auctioned it off, but I would suggeste that you leave the creationist crap on there, and then record a rebuttal from yourself, and maybe a few more from some of your fairly famous rational friends before you do. It will increase the value of the product.
Posted by: Nominal Egg | July 9, 2009 10:42 AM
Seconded. I don't recall PZ asking for any suggestions.Posted by: jellay
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July 9, 2009 10:43 AM
Congratulations!
Posted by: Chgo_Liz
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July 9, 2009 11:17 AM
Give credit where credit is due: that was classy.
On a completely different note...since there is no open thread right now, I'll ask indulgence to use this one to post a link that came to my attention just now which I have no personal reason to bookmark, but I'm sure will be appreciated by a certain bacon-y subset of Pharyngulites: http://www.snorgtees.com/baconmakeseverythingbetter-p-757.html
Posted by: Rachel D. | July 9, 2009 12:55 PM
Oh PLEASE tell me you put a bunch of awesome audiobooks on it - like The God Delusion, and The Portable Atheist. Sweet.
Posted by: Evolving Squid | July 9, 2009 1:42 PM
I disagree.
For people who believe in honesty and small-t truth as it was described earlier in this thread, it would simply be a duty to live up to one's word.
Since the Hovinds are purveyors of dishonesty and superstition, it is merely surprising that they made good on their word. It is not "pretty good" when someone lives up to their word, it is simply what should be expected.
That they can do this perhaps raises them one rung out of a pool of slime.
Posted by: malahci | July 9, 2009 2:16 PM
"For people who believe in honesty and small-t truth as it was described earlier in this thread, it would simply be a duty to live up to one's word."
Can you imagine how frustrating that would be to run this traffic drive to help spread your beliefs only to find it jammed by some evolutionist punk? I agree that we should expect them to send the itouch, but I'm personally really impressed that the inscription was so respectful. PZ keeps calling it a trophy... what does it represent, other than our ability to spite Hovind and co.? I think they won this one.
Posted by: malahci | July 9, 2009 2:19 PM
"For people who believe in honesty and small-t truth as it was described earlier in this thread, it would simply be a duty to live up to one's word."
Can you imagine how frustrating that would be to run this traffic drive to help spread your beliefs only to find it jammed by some evolutionist punk? I agree that we should expect them to send the itouch, but I'm personally really impressed that the inscription was so respectful. PZ keeps calling it a trophy... what does it represent, other than our ability to spite Hovind and co.? I think they won this one.
Posted by: epawson | July 9, 2009 5:55 PM
"Now please, delete whatever videos came on it. Or, better yet, post them online... for detailed analysis!"
I vote for the posting!
Posted by: EB | August 3, 2009 10:52 AM
"In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with God."
A more reasonable person would write "In hopes that your quest for TRUTH will end with TRUTH."
Posted by: andy | August 3, 2009 4:10 PM
well personally, what I'd do with it, is enjoy my ipod. there's not even any reason to delete the videos until it starts running out of space...
cheers, greg, for linking back to 'the great desecration', btw... dunno how I missed that one - although I followed the story all the way through. has it really been a year?