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Did you miss out on our trip to the Creation "Museum" last week? Do you wish you could see such amazing inanity on display, but you live far away and you just don't think it's worth the money? Or perhaps you just don't want to give AiG a penny. Well, here's your solution: make your own! It's easy, it's cheap, and trust me, it's just as scientifically accurate.
All you have to do is go to your local WalMart and browse the toy section. Get a random assortment of plastic animals, arrange them into a beautiful diorama, and take pictures. Presto! That's what these clever people did.
I just have to add that gluing googly eyes on everything was brilliant. It makes the whole display so much better than anything in the $27 million dollar monument to folly in Kentucky. (Uh-oh — I hope AiG isn't reading this, or they'll rush out and get bigger googly eyes to glue on all their exhibits, and increase their verisimilitude a thousand fold).
Comments
Posted by: smellyoldgit | August 14, 2009 8:04 AM
The Poirot in me says you're not taking poor ol' Mr Ham all that seriously?
Posted by: Cyrock | August 14, 2009 8:08 AM
Say what! This isnt the REAL creation "museum"?? Cant see the difference! :O
Posted by: Sigmund | August 14, 2009 8:09 AM
My wife bought that exact Noahs ark toy for our son when he was three. She's not religious, its just that it's a good way to get a boat and a load of animals all at once and kids love playing with both!
My son was big into dinosaurs and often played with the ark and his dinosaurs at the same time - but never actually put the dinosaurs ON the ark.
When I asked him why not he looked at me like I was an idiot and said:
"They can't go on a boat, they're too big!"
By the way, new trouble ahead for Answers in Genesis.....
from their new rivals, Answers in Leviticus!
http://answersinleviticus.blogspot.com/2009/08/answers-in-genesis-refuses-gods-command.html
Posted by: daveau | August 14, 2009 8:10 AM
I don't want to give any money to WalMart, either.
This reminds me of the kind of christmas yard displays that you get in my neighborhood: the manger scene with sheep & reindeer, the whole thing surrounded by tin soldiers...
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 8:10 AM
Does that T-Rex come with a saddle?
Posted by: me2 | August 14, 2009 8:12 AM
The Ark scene is inaccurate! Where are the Cro Magnons and Neanderthals?
Posted by: Laborum | August 14, 2009 8:13 AM
See ya there, Tom. Wait... no I won't, because it doesn't exist.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 14, 2009 8:13 AM
Ah, another "holy man" who has no scruples, ethics, or morality. That seems to go with the territory.
Posted by: hexkid | August 14, 2009 8:15 AM
Those googly eyes are obviously proof of an Intelligent Designer. Something that complex cannot just spontaneously appear at random.
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 8:16 AM
WE'LL BURN IN HELL! LIKE JESUS!
...hey what are those lions doing? :D
Posted by: simply not edible | August 14, 2009 8:16 AM
That's just... Awesome! Friggin' dinosaurs eating carrots, that proves it, alright!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 8:18 AM
I hear the ribs there are Great!
Tom, what does your book say about liars?
You said you weren't going to post here any longer.
Liar.
Posted by: JustJoeP | August 14, 2009 8:20 AM
My older brother, who was a former beer drinking frat boy, went off the evangelical deep end about 5 years ago, and got his family "1 year memberships" to this Bluegrass monument to stupidity. Never before have so many, spent so much time and effort, to attempt to combat Science, so poorly. And the hypocrites don't even follow their sacred tome. Don't they know they have to stone lesbians, eat only of that which cheweth cud and haveth cloven hooves, and make their women use menstrual huts? Don't the quick creationists know that if they only follow part of the Old Testament, and not all of it 100%, that they will burn in the Fires of Gehenna that they fear so much???
And Tom Estes, above, do you have a proclivity for dungeons? You sound a little obsessed with them, poor guy. I hope you've not eaten a hot dog, or a ham sandwich, mate. Don't cha' have anything better to do than to make yourself look foolish in a forum you refuse to embrace and that which you cannot comprehend?
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 14, 2009 8:22 AM
This is great. Magnificent page PZ. Now any of us can make a travelling Ham "museum" and fleece the creationist suckers. Heck even ol' Estes now has the means to extend creation nonsense like his big brother Ham.
Posted by: Laborum | August 14, 2009 8:22 AM
Apparently I was wrong about Hell existing, Tom. And it's supposed to get up to 90 degrees on Sunday. Not technically burn conditions, but close. When do you propose we are all going to be in Michigan at the same time? That's quite a feat.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=Hell&searchType=WEATHER
I apologize for not expanding my search parameters.
Posted by: DaveX | August 14, 2009 8:23 AM
I am head curator at the Midwest Clicker Museum (MCM), a museum devoted to remote controls from all eras. Our museum, however, is a new kind-- a "mind museum," where the lack of tanglible, physical exhibits is no obstacle to FUN!
See our 40-foot tall 8-track remote! Marvel at the astounding array of miniaturized remote controls used by Pink Floyd missions to control the heart of the sun! Feel the awesome power of the actual clicker that powers Dick Cheney down at the end of a work week!
Take a mind trip to the Midwest Clicker Museum today-- it's cheap on gas, and we're conveniently located near the offramp at 433rd and Fluxus.
Posted by: me2 | August 14, 2009 8:26 AM
Testes@4
Nah, I'm going to FSM heaven!
Posted by: Pete Moulton | August 14, 2009 8:26 AM
Nah, it still wouldn't be the same, unless we could also get a little PZ Myers action figure--complete with cephalopod and cool hat, of course--to ride the Triceratops. Yee haw! Get along little dinos!
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 8:30 AM
@Pete #19: Why don't you make it? :P Get some Fimo and sculpt one!
Posted by: Becca | August 14, 2009 8:30 AM
Um...are those lions doing what I think they're doing?
Posted by: Alverant | August 14, 2009 8:30 AM
The lions in the second picture makes me think someone's trying to replicate a Robot Chicken clip. Now all that's needed is some swearing and a sea monster threatening to destroy the ark.
Posted by: Afterthought | August 14, 2009 8:33 AM
I rode my bicycle to Hell once. It was just a day trip so I was obviously pretty close to hell. I suspect I still am. There wasn't much there. There was a bar called the "Damn Site" or it might have been "Dam Site" since there was creek of something there. The was also a little store selling "I've been through Hell" and so forth.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 8:34 AM
Looks like that brontosaurus isn't very happy with Noah.
And why is Mrs. Noah bogarting all the Whiskey?
Things don't look too kosher on the ark.
Posted by: Spyderkl
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August 14, 2009 8:36 AM
Wow. Lions getting, um, busy, a dinosaur throwing someone off the bow, and googly eyes! Now that's a creation "museum" exhibit I'd pay to see.
Posted by: Phyastroman | August 14, 2009 8:38 AM
What good creation museum would be complete without the talking Jesus action figure.
I have seen this and Mary as well. The voice is probably the creepiest thing you will every hear.
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 8:40 AM
I see the lions are starting early on the multiplying (Hey Tom, that means your bible mentions mathematics as well as science....WOW). Must be before they get chucked off the ark with so little to eat.
I also can't help noticing the pirate monkey. I am not going to gues what the other one is holding.
Posted by: Holbach | August 14, 2009 8:43 AM
This is the kind of museum that Waiden has in his back yard, but with a few more additions: Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and his god represented by an imprint on a dinosaur turd. Now it is real.
Posted by: Nangleator | August 14, 2009 8:45 AM
I always figured the apple thing was some sort of bronze age euphemism for fucking. I mean, the church has been telling us for thousands of years that sex is dirty, and here's Adam and Eve hanging out in the nude... Did the bible really mean that eating an apple was naughty?
If so, how come good xtians have been giving their kids apples for centuries? People that wouldn't show their friggin ankles at the beach would still eat apples.
So, the apple thing is like this euphemism prudishly adhered to, even by the most devoted literalists...
My creation museum would have Adam and Eve writhing around in ecstasy, all orifices employed, in the pre-fall time period. That's innocent, right? That's pure! We should all strive to be like pre-fall Adam. (Not Eve, though. The whore.)
Posted by: FossilBob | August 14, 2009 8:45 AM
They'll make millions! What a return for the investment!
...And I threw my whole collection out! Time to buy some more?
Posted by: Sean | August 14, 2009 8:48 AM
Timothy 4 : 17
Read it , weep and learn.
PZbots.
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 14, 2009 8:54 AM
Laborum if you travel southeast of Hell MI, you end up in Paradise MI. Not much there either, not even a dam.
Posted by: MarkW | August 14, 2009 8:56 AM
#31: 1 Timothy or 2 Timothy? :P
(Damn. 1 Timothy 4 only has 16 verses, so it must be the other one.)
It's great how little the Christonauts know their own bible.
Posted by: dinkum | August 14, 2009 8:56 AM
Damn you. Coffee through the nose hurts.
Oh, yes, here's an obligatory, "Lick my left one, Pastor."
There's a pun in there somewhere but I don't care.
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 8:57 AM
Timothy 4 : 17
But the Lord stood at my side and gave me strength, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. And I was delivered from the lion's mouth.
But Sean, the lions are busy right now so it's ok :)
Posted by: echidna | August 14, 2009 8:59 AM
Sean said:
It might help if the verse actually existed.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:01 AM
mmmmkay
And we should be weeping why?
Here read this
My quote is much much cooler and much much more important.
Posted by: juan | August 14, 2009 9:01 AM
I burned in Hell once. Yep, summer of '94 IIRC a vacation to Grand Cayman. Spent the whole next day in the hotel room covered in Aloe vera. Who knew?
Posted by: Evolution SWAT | August 14, 2009 9:01 AM
That was pretty funny Dr. Myers.
Posted by: breadmaker | August 14, 2009 9:04 AM
verisimilitude: big word i am impressed
#11
actually it is correct theology in most Christian circles that Jesus did suffer hell.
Posted by: me2 | August 14, 2009 9:06 AM
Sean @ 31
I'm confused, I thought we were a horde of minions?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
Jesus died for his own sins, not mine1
1 or something like that
Posted by: KI | August 14, 2009 9:10 AM
Hey Tom, go to heaven will ya? Like today?
Posted by: Rorschach | August 14, 2009 9:15 AM
Tom Estes is I think one of the people my mum always warned me about....
Glad he has been revealed here in all his creepiness over the last week.
A chance for the Nikki's of this world to not fall for the siren's song anymore, and see the creepy Toms for what they are.
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 14, 2009 9:15 AM
Hey, wanna know something really, really funny?
Since I put filters in place to block Pastor Tom's url and email, he had to switch to using a fake email address. Guess what address he used?
The same exact fake email address as the troll Shaun.
BUSTED!
Posted by: Pete Moulton | August 14, 2009 9:18 AM
Michelle @ 20: I have no skill in such things. The tiny crocoduck tie would be the end of me. Surely there's some Pharynguloid out there with artistic abilities up to this task!
Posted by: dinkum | August 14, 2009 9:18 AM
SHIT. Coffee through the nose AGAIN.
Posted by: Kingasaurus | August 14, 2009 9:18 AM
PZ, I'm certainly not an expert, but are you overlooking the possibility that "Shaun" is simply pretending to be Tom, and the real Tom is actually gone?
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 14, 2009 9:18 AM
Well, I was almost laughing hard enough for a tear briefly, seeing the photos... I think it was the dino hanging Noah off the bow of the ark almost got me there...
As to why Ms. Noah's hittin' the hooch so hard, well, hell, she is stuck on a boat with her psychotic husband who hears voices and a buncha hungry carnosaurs... Can't say I blame her...
(/Also, could be the text for this comes from a rejected passage from Not Wanted on the Voyage, but who knows...)
Posted by: LuchinG | August 14, 2009 9:20 AM
I've been catholic for 13 years y went to a catholic school for 11 years, and there's no mention in the bible of a couple of lions doing it under the rain. And cats doesn´t like water, ¿you know?
Posted by: Laborum | August 14, 2009 9:20 AM
"The same exact fake email address as the troll Shaun."
Priceless.
Posted by: KI | August 14, 2009 9:22 AM
Rev@42
The first verse on Patti Smith's "Horses" album was the last time I gave any consideration to the whole "evil sinner" meme.
Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine
Madness, hot thieves
Wildcard up my sleeve
Thick, hot stones
My sins they only belong to me.
Posted by: Larry | August 14, 2009 9:22 AM
Its like a verse from the bible has come to life! Looking at those dioramas, I almost feel as though I'm back at the dawn of creation, 6000 years ago!
Posted by: Jafafa Hots | August 14, 2009 9:24 AM
Well I for one am shocked to discover that a creationist preacher has turned out to be a dishonest, creepily obsessive, delusional stalker type with serious anger issues.
It's almost as if thinking the universe is 6000 years old and created for you by a man in the sky who is very concerned about where you put your penis AND who has strict rules about just how you're allowed to move air molecules or what squiggly lines you're allowed to use when conveying to others the concepts of feces and sex means that you're severely mentally ill.
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 14, 2009 9:25 AM
Does anyone else picture Pastor Tom on Sunday morning, sitting on a folding chair surrounded by an array of barbies and stuffed animals and sock puppets, preaching the word of gaaaawd to his dollies, while occasionally saying "amen" out of the corner of his mouth?
I think he was caught on video, too.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 14, 2009 9:27 AM
Gee, a preacher getting caught lying through his teeth by sock puppeting. Someone who should be setting an example. Who would of thunk...
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:27 AM
Yeah my "version" above was from Crass's song Reality Asylum. Same idea, I have no doubt they probably were influenced by Smith in some way.
Posted by: TheBear | August 14, 2009 9:30 AM
For those wondering:
Hell does excist. And since it's quite marshy it's kind of hard to burn there (though you probably could manage if you want to). A lot easier to rot though.
It's not very nice, but since I live in Trondheim I regularly have to go through hell to get to the airport.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:30 AM
There he goes, lying again.
How very Christian of you Tom.
You are a shining example of Christian morality.
Posted by: PT's ministery | August 14, 2009 9:32 AM
The word of God can not be thwarted bt 'scientific' internet technologicle methods.
#44 PZbot herd leader
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:33 AM
Now that you mention it, yes.
and
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Polly Prissy Pants needs the word of THE LORD!!!!!!!!1111ONE1!!1
Posted by: jj | August 14, 2009 9:34 AM
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/08/build_your_own_museum.php#comments
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 9:35 AM
@Pete #45: Hmmm. This could actually be a funny project for me to do when I'm bored then. :P
@Breadmaker #39: Soo... He's still there then? Cuz it's an eternal barbecue thing if I'm not mistaken?
Posted by: Darren Garrison | August 14, 2009 9:36 AM
Wow-- who knew Tom Estes was actually a conjoined twin?
http://www.faith-space.com/profile/TomEstes
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 9:36 AM
I'm not surprised. A lot of the posts were similar and the thought had crossed my mind. Although with the limited fundie thinking....hmmm looks like a version of a poe. When your groupies are so limited in thinking that you can't tell them apart.
Posted by: Gordy | August 14, 2009 9:37 AM
Sigmund #3 - Answers in Leviticus just made my Friday! I nearly fell off my seat laughing... And just when I thought it couldn't get any funnier, I read the first comment :D
Thank you!!!
Posted by: Cabiee | August 14, 2009 9:39 AM
@60
Come on..... The "word of god" can be thwarted by the frigging bible!!!
Posted by: co | August 14, 2009 9:41 AM
I wonder how many chiselos the Ten Commandments had.
Posted by: kiki | August 14, 2009 9:43 AM
TEstes' Faith-Space profile has a graphic, sent in by one of his fellow travellers, of a solid-gold cross draped in diamonds.
That's just the sort of thing I can see Jesus wearing. It really chimes with his whole philosophy.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 9:45 AM
More dishonest behavior by a representative of Christianity.
Not surprising.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 14, 2009 9:46 AM
...
Heh. I figure the Rev BDC infected 'em...
(Nicely done...)
Fer some reason, I'm getting this weird picture of 'Pastor Tom' 'n his zombies preaching in a dusty middle Eastern street... It's all fire 'n brimstone 'n the Laird is comin' ta smite ya 'cos ya did not keep his laws... 'Cept it's also all also even more incoherent than that genre usually is, 'cos the text is all typos 'n gibberish, hilariously mangled l33tsp33k and occasional psychotic breaks in which the underlying control freak megalomania of the would-be 'spiritual leader' comes out, and even if the text hadn't been quite so completely insane, they also stutter...
So it all comes out somethin' like:
'Hear, Oh Israel, the Ltrd thd Got inst one Gosh, and blarg the purple dinosaur will have his rvng on Seattle! LOL! All yr dungns R belng to us! Fear me, I am Emperor Zorg, Lord of Space and Time! I will hv my day, when the seas boil 'n scorpions come to devour yr toezes! U cannot keep me in yr pitiful iron technologicle walls! Rarr!...'
(/The assembled crowd laughs, cheers, puts shekels in their lowered hats, asks 'em to do 'Freebird'...)
Posted by: Cabiee | August 14, 2009 9:46 AM
oops, sorry chimp, that would be @59
Posted by: Josh | August 14, 2009 9:48 AM
Whether or not Tom and Shaun are the same person, the owner of that email address is a dishonest fuck.
Jesus would be proud, TomShaun; Jesus would be proud.
*shakes head*
As I said the other day, it appears that all we ever have to do to hold the moral high ground with these people is simply let them be themselves.
Posted by: Kingasaurus | August 14, 2009 9:48 AM
Kiki,
Not surprised. We're supposedly told heaven has pearl gates and gold streets.
How anyone can read that stuff and not realize it's man-made completely baffles me. Only humans (who value material things like gems and precious metals) would honestly think some spiritual afterlife would have aspects of those things. There's no reason to read such things as mere symbolism unless you're embarrassed by the literal meaning.
Posted by: steve | August 14, 2009 9:54 AM
@ #37
Hunter S. Thompson would be pleased.
Posted by: heliobates | August 14, 2009 9:54 AM
Roy: Oh Jesus, Marty if thats what you thought, I'm disappointed I don't mind saying. There never was an Aaron, counselor.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 14, 2009 9:57 AM
Poor pastor Estes, his word of god is really the word of his delusions. He just can't comprehend his god doesn't exist. He needs professional help.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | August 14, 2009 9:59 AM
Kingasaurus writes:
We're supposedly told heaven has pearl gates and gold streets.
How anyone can read that stuff and not realize it's man-made completely baffles me.
Yeah, really. Nowadays it'd be "everyone gets a Lexus and a Macbook Pro and you can eat all the Ben&Jerry's you want and not gain weight." Religion - for something that's supposed to be about the supernatural and superior - is amazingly worldly and venal.
PS - We're honored PZ chose to feature our little Museum and we're kicking ourselves for not thinking of rigging one of the dinosaurs up with a saddle. We even had the sculpey, darn it! It never crossed our minds.
Posted by: Jafafa Hots | August 14, 2009 10:00 AM
Is there a possibility one of Pastor Tom's "flock" would see his behavior and think "hey, wait a second..."?
probably not.
Posted by: Museli | August 14, 2009 10:02 AM
You are far too literate and scathing for your own good PZ ;)
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 10:04 AM
-is there a possibility one of Pastor Tom's "flock" would see his behavior and think "hey, wait a second..."?-
Considering Tom's statement to Nikki, do you really think he would let them out on their own around the internet??
Talking of which, that was a fun discussion. I hope she comes back. 1 Hour a day on the internets is a cruel amount.
Posted by: Zyzle | August 14, 2009 10:10 AM
My favourite version of the Ark stroy:
http://www.noob.us/humor/robot-chicken-noahs-ark/
Posted by: rath | August 14, 2009 10:13 AM
For the videos, I suppose scribbling will do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bar3GOzDNzg
The Professor Brothers - Bible History #1 (Sodom & Gomorrah)
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 14, 2009 10:18 AM
No, I can tell it's Pastor Tom doing the sockpuppetry. For one thing, I have a complete record of all the attempts to get past the ban -- it's actually rather funny. There's a whole series of attempted comments caught by the filter in which he tries to brag that I was "taken down" by a post at his website…and I can see him step-by-step trying to puzzle out what was getting him blocked. He's got 15 comments there, where he morphs from Tom Estes to The Tom Estes Ministries to Tom to The Hard Truth to Reality Check to Truth Seeker to Sean to the final success where he stripped out all the URLs. First attempt is definitely the same Tom Estes who has been posting here, and I can see how he gradually evolved the identity he used here in his comment, falling back on the old troll name he knew had worked before.
It's sad and pathetic, ain't it?
Posted by: Bob Carroll | August 14, 2009 10:22 AM
Hey, lions! wait! ixnay on the exsay. The 'go forth and multiply' order hasn't been issued yet. Then, every species has to get multiplying. Except,of course, for the adders.
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 10:23 AM
@PZ: It's very sad and pathetic. These people don't have a life. It just shows how being a "pastor" is very important, very busy work.
Of course, this being the internet, his ministeries could very well be his mom's basement.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 14, 2009 10:24 AM
Yep, not a moral bone in his body. His wife better keep a close eye on him.Posted by: Knockgoats | August 14, 2009 10:25 AM
Then, every species has to get multiplying. Except,of course, for the adders.
Naw. Adders are allowed to multiply, so long as they do so by logs.
Posted by: XD | August 14, 2009 10:28 AM
So i herd u liek goggly eyz
Posted by: raven | August 14, 2009 10:28 AM
Soon the be followed by Answers in Exodus. They will have a slave market where you can drop off your kids for some extra money as in Exodus.
Followed by Answers In Deuteronomy. They are having a problem with permitting. Apparently the county isn't too happy about the plan to build a city gate so people can stone their disobedient children to death in true biblical syle.
The Dark Horse might be Answers in Revelations. Their plan to help god by getting a hold of some nukes and starting WWIII hasn't gotten very far. They deny rumors that Sarah Palin had planned to arrange an accident for the rather old and fragile president McCain and become caretaker for almost half the world's nuclear weapons.
Their Leave Early assisted suicide Rapture kit hasn't sold very well either. The Rapture Your Neighbors Canaan automatic rifle is selling well though.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 10:29 AM
A Shining beacon of Christian Morality™ in action.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 14, 2009 10:29 AM
Oh, my, that's just too hilarious.
Funny thing... I expect we're seeing a really lovely metaphor right there, too, for how religions are born, spread, and evolve, in a convenient technological parallel to what happens when the original con man/nutbar's trying to play his target herd...
Sure. Just keep tweaking the lie 'til ya get it past their filters...
(/The difference is, the webserver's filters' logging is a mite more systematic... Conveniently.)
Posted by: Possummomma | August 14, 2009 10:31 AM
Sad and pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it.
Hey Tom,...you FAIL!
You are the weekest link!
The tribe has spoken.
Posted by: Darren Garrison | August 14, 2009 10:34 AM
I'm waiting for Answers in Song of Solomon.
http://ncbiblechurch.org/diagrams/Song_of_Solomon_illustrated-literally.jpg
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 14, 2009 10:35 AM
That earns you time on the naughty step!
Posted by: formosus
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August 14, 2009 10:36 AM
@ Sean - #30
45/4211.4, Captain Kirk 'The only solution is...a balance of power. We arm our side with exactly that much more. A balance of power...the trickiest, most difficult, dirtiest game of them all. But the only one that preserves both sides.'
You broke the Star Trek rule.
http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2008/04/closed-captioned-for-humor-impaired.html
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 14, 2009 10:37 AM
... even if 'God' has to wait 'til PZ goes to sleep and morph his return email to cheapv14gr44u@bobsipfarm.ru to do it...
Posted by: The Thomas Society | August 14, 2009 10:39 AM
Allow me to quote that esteemed scholar, Spongebob Squarepants,
(Said in a high pitched,fearful voice)
"Gooooglllyyy eeeyeeesss?????"
Posted by: Formosus | August 14, 2009 10:39 AM
@ Sean - #30
45/4211.4, Captain Kirk 'The only solution is...a balance of power. We arm our side with exactly that much more. A balance of power...the trickiest, most difficult, dirtiest game of them all. But the only one that preserves both sides.'
You broke the Star Trek rule.
http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2008/04/closed-captioned-for-humor-impaired.html
Posted by: Jay H | August 14, 2009 10:39 AM
If only god had given Noah the foresight to throw the lions overboard; Jesus' acolytes could have avoided all that nasty business in Rome.
Posted by: XD | August 14, 2009 10:39 AM
Ooo, i can play too:
Judges 3:19-25 ESV
This is fun!
Posted by: Cosmic Teapot | August 14, 2009 10:40 AM
Sean / Tom / Testes @30
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Read it and think, that's your book, that is.
Posted by: Dwimr | August 14, 2009 10:40 AM
Throw a big sweater on that giraffe and you've got yourself one Billy Dembski.
Posted by: formosus
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August 14, 2009 10:41 AM
#101
Balls. I can't even blame Science Blogs for this one. My bad.
Posted by: Moggie | August 14, 2009 10:43 AM
#85:
He may have evolved, but he was still the same kind.
Posted by: Louis | August 14, 2009 10:44 AM
Ooooh has T.Estes (greatest name EVAR, sorry but that must have caused MASSIVE psychological damage) threatened us all with hell? Marvellous. All my friends are going, it's going to be one fuck of an after(life)party.
Rev BDC, you bringing the bacon? I'm bringing beer.
Louis
P.S. I'll leave it to others to bring lesbian bacon or bacon lesbians masturbating with bibles or bacon bibles masturbating with lesbians or any permutation thereof.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 10:48 AM
Do you find yourself incapable of being honest?
Do you have strange urges to sneak around and go places you aren't invited?
Do you say you're not going to go somewhere, but go there anyway?
Do you consider signs that say "No Trespassing" optional?
Then come on over to Pastor Tom's Do as I want Christian Ministry of the Dishonest Lord!
We don't mind if you think the whole "Bearing false witness" thing only applies to others. In fact WE ENCOURAGE you to apply the lessons learned at other lesser Ministries to others and not to yourself. Being that you'll be a member of our ministry you can do what you please as long as you say you're doing it for the Lord!
So come on over and join us. We promise to love you and to always do good!!!
at least that's what we'll tell you *wink *wink *nudge *nudge
HAHAHA
That's Right folks, Pastor Tom's Do as I want Christian Ministry of the Dishonest Lord, we're "good" choice.
Posted by: bunnycatch3r | August 14, 2009 10:49 AM
Poor Tom
Posted by: Darren Garrison | August 14, 2009 10:50 AM
"The granite truth is God will have the LAST word."
But that last word will be "accordion", which makes no sense without the context of the rest of the sentence. But we will be too embarrassed to ask him to repeat himself because then he'd know we weren't paying attention to his senile ramblings. Then we will feel like schist for taking him for granite.
Posted by: Louis | August 14, 2009 10:50 AM
God will have the last word, eh. Which one?
Place your bets folks, place your bets. Which god is going to have the last word? Smart money's on Tiamat.
Louis
Posted by: Josh | August 14, 2009 10:51 AM
Are you sure you want it to be the granite truth? The feldspars in granitic rocks go toward clay fairly rapidly (geologically speaking, of course...). Wouldn't it be better to have a rock that was feldspar poor? How about a nice quartzite? The quartzite truth has a nice ring to it, eh?
Posted by: Walton | August 14, 2009 10:54 AM
I very much doubt that "Tom Estes" ("T. Estes", a name similar in character to "Ronald Swipe") ever existed. It's probably an elaborate prank by some troll who thought it would be a laugh to annoy some people on the internet.
Posted by: kiki | August 14, 2009 10:55 AM
We're honored PZ chose to feature our little Museum and we're kicking ourselves for not thinking of rigging one of the dinosaurs up with a saddle.
I call the intellectual property rights to Triceratops Buckaroo.
Posted by: Josh | August 14, 2009 10:56 AM
*smack*
Posted by: Brian | August 14, 2009 10:56 AM
Googly eyes FTW all around!
Posted by: co | August 14, 2009 10:57 AM
So long as he doesn't speak until then, I really don't give a damn.
Posted by: Jay H | August 14, 2009 10:57 AM
@111 Well done!
"The granite truth is God will have the LAST word."
Does anyone else envision Pastor Nuts as an 8 year old? PZ catches him in a lie and instead of apologizing and learning from the consequences of his behavior, he says, "My daddy will beat you up."
Pathetic. If god is real, he must be embarassed to have this guy on his side.
Posted by: Evil Eye | August 14, 2009 10:58 AM
Would not have been better to say, "your local superstore" rather than name a real store? Just thinking.
Posted by: Kemist | August 14, 2009 10:59 AM
Forty-two, of course.
Posted by: Kingasaurus | August 14, 2009 11:11 AM
"Fuck you PZ."
ROFL!!!
Tom, are you a model of Christian love, or what?
EMBARRASSING.
Remember, PZ, anger in your opponents doesn't prove you're right (other evidence does), but it does prove you're getting to them.
You give your opponents deserved ridicule, not anger.
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 11:17 AM
HE'S BEEN IMPERSONATED! ...someone of your church's monitoring the little blog you swore you'd stop posting in? Wait, are you telling US to get a life, Estes? Tell that to your faithful mama.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 14, 2009 11:17 AM
You have to feel sorry for Tom Estes.
He never stood a chance from birth. With parents insane enough to call him T. Estes he was never going to get the best start in life. Sadly he seems even more insane than they must have been.
Posted by: E.V. | August 14, 2009 11:19 AM
Since when is everyone who posts at Pharyngula a scientist? Was that a requirement I missed?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 11:23 AM
Says an Internet pastor of a church that condones lying.
snicker
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 14, 2009 11:29 AM
The "Tom Estes" who blurted out the profanity here is not the same Tom Estes who has posted in the past (or as Shaun, even). It's another kook who has been posting trolling comments...all of which have now been deleted. The "Tom Estes" who then posted to denounce his impersonation was the same "Tom Estes" who posted the profanity.
It's a tangled mess. I do wish these clowns would realize that the guy who runs the site has enough private information to sort out who is faking addresses, though.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 11:32 AM
In a way I'm glad that it happens so we have further examples of just how seriously these folks take their self claimed moral high ground.
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 14, 2009 11:33 AM
@Rev bigdumbchimp: Don't you think it's possible that they're faking their self-claimed moral high ground at this point? I think he's just a dumb poe.
Posted by: Kemist | August 14, 2009 11:34 AM
You know, I'm tempted to follow your advice and go back to playing WoW. That death knight isn't going to level itself, you know.
Nah, this thread is still funny enough, testes and all ... I think I'll just sit outside with my laptop and a pina colada.
Thanks for the advice though.
Posted by: aratina cage | August 14, 2009 11:35 AM
They don't need Noah because Rudolph the Red-Nosed Bronto is at the bow guiding their way through the deluge! (Or maybe he's been nursing the spigot of the whiskey barrel. It's the perfect height for a Long Neck.)
Posted by: Tom Estes | August 14, 2009 11:36 AM
Correct
#126 Michelle R
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 11:38 AM
--The "Tom Estes" who then posted to denounce his impersonation was the same "Tom Estes" who posted the profanity.--
or it was the same from just another email address. A sock puppet for each hand!!! idle hands and all that.
What a tangled web these people weave.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 11:43 AM
sure
That or someone specifically trying to make it seem like someone is impersonating Tom and then crying foul.
Who knows. It's lame either way.
Posted by: Dave X | August 14, 2009 11:47 AM
Heh, so "Tom Estes the Denouncer" was lying when he said his denouncement was his first and last post? Shocked! I tell you, Shocked!
Posted by: E.V. | August 14, 2009 11:49 AM
pastor Tom's tweets on Twitter are enlightening. I'd say he's got a crush on you PZ. Don't be fooled by his ponytail yanking antics, his obsession speaks for itself - he's sweet on you.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | August 14, 2009 11:49 AM
If only god had given Noah the foresight to throw the lions overboard; Jesus' acolytes could have avoided all that nasty business in Rome.
I dunno. "Throw him to the badgers!" has a pretty nice ring to it.
Posted by: tsg | August 14, 2009 11:53 AM
Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers.
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 11:56 AM
So, did PZ manage to trace who printed Mark Looey's address?
Posted by: CortxVortx | August 14, 2009 11:59 AM
From the webpage: "... the carrotsaurus and bananaraptor."
I'm in stitches!
Posted by: TwinIonEngines | August 14, 2009 12:00 PM
Shaun is Tom Estes?
That's pretty fucking hilarious - that means he's posting under that name in the comments on his own blog, agreeing with himself.
Posted by: chgo_liz | August 14, 2009 12:03 PM
AJ Milne @ #91:
Sure. Just keep tweaking the lie 'til ya get it past their filters...
Brilliant. Thanks for that insight.
When I look at the first photo on Testes' faith-space page, I see a haunted look in his wife's eyes and a proud-ownership look in his. Gives me the googly eyes.
Posted by: Spiro Keat | August 14, 2009 12:04 PM
#130
" A sock puppet for each hand!!! idle hands and all that."
Given the type of guy he is, I reckon one of his hands would be otherwise occupied.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 14, 2009 12:04 PM
I guess if Shaun and Tom Estes are the same person they could be called Shaun Testes.
I'll get my coat.
Posted by: chgo_liz | August 14, 2009 12:07 PM
Sorry, forgot I have to blockquote each paragraph separately here.
Obviously, there's one more line from AJ Milne that should be in the quote, not ascribed to me.
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Given the type of guy he is, I reckon one of his hands would be otherwise occupied.
I fail to see why he would need to take the puppet off. I thought that was the kinky right there
Posted by: Elwood Herring | August 14, 2009 12:08 PM
Does anybody else think it's time to kill off the !!!ONE! meme (and all variations thereof)? Terry Pratchett said that people who use multiple exclaimation points probably wear their underpants on their head. I would also suggest that people who still think !!!eleventy-one etc. is still funny are also walking around in public dressed like that.
(I KNOW I'm going to get slammed for that but I don't care!!!!!one!eleven!!!42!!House!)
Posted by: Qwerty
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August 14, 2009 12:09 PM
I see the lions, as the only ones of their kind on the ark, are busy creating cheetahs or leopards or the ever-popular house cat.
Posted by: tsg | August 14, 2009 12:10 PM
@144
Memes die of their own accord. Trying to kill one is like trying to nail Jello to the wall.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 12:11 PM
Addressing anyone in particular are we?
Posted by: rob | August 14, 2009 12:17 PM
As there's no prohibition on morphing or sockpuppetry in the bybull, I'm sure Tom's God is alright with it.
Posted by: Sink | August 14, 2009 12:17 PM
From testicles blog
I am only one.
I have been nowhere near PZ's madhouse today.
August 14, 2009 | CommenterTom Estes
Posted by: stogoe | August 14, 2009 12:27 PM
No, it's funny because it's so stupid.
Posted by: Qwerty
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August 14, 2009 12:29 PM
Hey Rev BDC, you said things don't look too kosher on the ark. I've noticed that the piggies in the first picture seem to be missing in the ark picture.
Do you think someone is below decks making bacon?
Posted by: Joe Agnost | August 14, 2009 12:29 PM
The Tom Estes saga is getting funnier by the minute... he's self destructing on his own blog now!
It's happened before, and it'll likely happen again - but what do you expect when you have so many lies to keep straight!
Posted by: Elwood Herring | August 14, 2009 12:29 PM
Rev: You've been caught on camera. Don't try to deny it, we have the evidence. Now please put your trousers back on.
;-) (oops, another meme bites the dust...)
Posted by: Carlie | August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
Sink @149 - of course not. Each personality usually doesn't know what the others are up to, do they?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
No one can resist bacon.
Yeah but I use it specifically because it's so over done and because of it poking fun at exclamation point abusers.
and I'll wear or not wear pants as I please thank you.
Posted by: Akiko | August 14, 2009 12:39 PM
My 6 year old was visiting a natural history mueseum with me recently. There was a quiz on the wall about ancient life. One of the questions was something like, "Did dinosaurs live at the same time as humans?" She looked at it and says, "Hmmf. That is a dumb question. Everyone knows dinosaurs lived before humans." So my 6 year old is smarter than all of those idiots at the Creation Money Making Location.
Posted by: Acronym Jim | August 14, 2009 12:47 PM
The googly eyes make perfect sense for a creation museum. Does anyone else remember the stop motion animated "Davy and Goliath," or the Rankin/Bass seasonal "Little Drummer Boy," or Gumby...oh, wait, never mind that last example.
Posted by: Elwood Herring | August 14, 2009 12:51 PM
Rev: Get your feathers down, I'm only having a bit of fun. That particular meme is getting a bit stale though, you must admit. It's become a parody of a parody of a parody!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 14, 2009 12:55 PM
that's the problem with teh intartubes and not being able to see intent, I know you were having fun and I was tossin' it back at ya. No feathers ruffled.
Posted by: Qwerty
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August 14, 2009 12:55 PM
Yes, Rev BDC, the brontosaurus is holding Noah over the edge of the ark because he knows that Noah wants a bronto burger with Swiss and bacon.
Posted by: Brian Jordan | August 14, 2009 12:59 PM
I'm not happy about all those googly eyes. Taking the FSM in vain, I'd say.
Posted by: Acronym Jim | August 14, 2009 1:07 PM
Another example of googly-eyed dinosaurs and humans coexisting can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-O-FyQMrg
Posted by: Drosera | August 14, 2009 1:09 PM
It's a good thing that St. Paul didn't have access to the internet. Imagine the extent of the sockpuppetry he would have created. He would even have claimed that sockpuppets could be raised from the dead*. Tom Estes would have looked like an honest guy compared to him.
* Come to think of it, in a way Jesus was St. Paul's sockpuppet.
Posted by: varlo | August 14, 2009 1:13 PM
RE: EV (122)
Of course we are all scientists. My credentials are two semesters of freshman bio in 1948-49.
Posted by: DingoJack | August 14, 2009 1:33 PM
Sigmund (#3) - Loved the linky. Most mirthful!
I sent them a mocking message on their board, and you can too, if you so desire.
Use: "Graham_Norton69@hotmail.com*" with the password that is the CAPS top line of the keyboard ('Q' to '}').
Go you winged monkeys, go forth and reek mocking havoc on
http://answersinleviticus.blogspot.com/2009/08/answers-in-genesis-refuses-gods-command.html. - DJ
______________
*See what you get for trying to phish me, scumbag!
Posted by: b. j. edwards | August 14, 2009 1:43 PM
Watch out!
AiG's gonna sue for patent infringement.
Posted by: MikeyM | August 14, 2009 1:46 PM
Why is the macaw the only passenger with a calm look in his eyes, when he's the only one who's mate is missing?
Posted by: E.V. | August 14, 2009 1:48 PM
1 semester Chem(failed Organic Chem II), 1 semester Astronomy, 1 semester Physics(acoustics) 2 semesters Geology (I loved these courses because they had all the sciences - biology, anthropology, astronomy, mineralogy, etc.) 1980-83. I became a huge SJG and Sagan fan, too. I learned enough to know I didn't have the smarts (or the discipline) to be a real scientist. I have great respect for science and scientists, but those with degrees in Divinity - not so much.Posted by: Anri | August 14, 2009 2:00 PM
raven sez:
"The Dark Horse might be Answers in Revelations."
Wouldn't that be a Pale Horse...?
um, sorry.
Posted by: Dr P | August 14, 2009 2:09 PM
So someone who shows no regard for the truth is going to tell anyone about the granite truth, how? I'm all ears...Incidently, PZ I sent my minion horde dues in this last month and I haven't yet received my wings yet( I chose those cool ones this year like the wicked witch's monkies)How do I expect them, ground or Fed EX express? Yours in slavish servitude, Dr PPosted by: glbrown | August 14, 2009 2:09 PM
DingoJack #165
They bring up a very good point. Those folks are all getting paid by kenny for working on sunday. That's the fourth I believe.
Just how do we go about respectfully asking kenny to clarify this obviously heathen behavior? Where at AIG does someone ask this question?
Posted by: DingoJack | August 14, 2009 2:25 PM
Ah yes but everyone knows the OT dudes are JEWS. Shabbat* is Saturday!
These Literalistic idiots can't even figure out their own mythos! - :) DJ
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*Not to be confused with "Nanoo Nanoo", of course.
Posted by: Asclepias | August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
Hey Pastor, why do you keep coming here and trying to be righteous? You know you'll just get laughed at. Are you into self-punishment or...wait. That's right. How are those Jesuits treating you?
Posted by: Asclepias | August 14, 2009 2:31 PM
E.V. @ 169--organic chemistry is one of the easiest classes in the world to fail. The only reason I didn't fail was that the professor recognized that it is one of the easiest classes in the world to fail and applied a very generous curve.
Posted by: MrFire | August 14, 2009 2:33 PM
*falls off chair*
*stuck with image of Dr. Evil for the rest of the day*
Posted by: noodles | August 14, 2009 2:53 PM
Ha! Granite truth? Quartzite truth? Quartz is everywhere; how pedestrian. My imaginary Tutelary Spirit has the Peridotite Truth
- a dense coarse-grained igneous rock from deep in the Earth's mantle. This proves you worship a false god.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 14, 2009 3:17 PM
This seems generally to be true... tho', frightening/weird story, tho' I have failed the odd course here and there, I wound up taking one of my organic chems in French... a language I don't really speak so well--scheduling issue, and my school was bilingual--and actually passed, tho' I think it wound up being a C somesuch... not sure I recall.
It mostly went pretty okay. Once you get down that 'l'azote' is actually Nitrogen, the rest of it's mostly the same, with the vowels a bit shifted and emphases moved around... what with all the stuff with Latin roots that wound up in technical English... I think, actually, the language barrier helped. Kinda had to take it all a bit more seriously than I might have otherwise...
Only half-serious misstep: took the lab in French, too. Communications with my bench partner was... iffy. Got a memorable nitric acid burn when he took a bit long trying to figure out just how to tell me not to pick up the now dangerously loaded separation gizmo.
As to:
... well, I figure he's probably thinking that on the plus side, neither his kids nor his in-laws are there, either...
Posted by: Gregory Greenwood | August 14, 2009 3:19 PM
I can imagine Brother Tom Estes sitting above a victim in a pit saying;
"It praises god from its mouth or it gets the hose again . . ."
Where is Anthony Hopkins when you need him?
Posted by: Rick R | August 14, 2009 4:01 PM
"Yes, Rev BDC, the brontosaurus is holding Noah over the edge of the ark because he knows that Noah wants a bronto burger with Swiss and bacon."
And BBQ sauce. And beer.
Fuck.
Posted by: Acronym Jim | August 14, 2009 4:05 PM
AJ Milne, I was going to tell MikeyM that perhaps he answered his own question. It seems we're thinking on the same wavelength.
Posted by: MikeM | August 14, 2009 4:11 PM
Nice job, TomShaun! It must be nice to be outed so publicly.
Deuteronomy 22:13-21 is a very heartwarming story, too. To steal Steve Wells' writing:
"If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep."
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/inj/long.html
Posted by: Asclepias | August 14, 2009 4:12 PM
AJ Milne @ 177-that's one of the reasons I didn't double major in Spanish. Organic chem was bad enough in English. There were also these little problems of me taking human anatomy and physiology the same semester and wanting to graduate in 4 years instead of 5. Bravo!
Posted by: 'Tis Himself
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August 14, 2009 4:31 PM
For to see Mad Tom of Bedlam
Ten thousand miles I traveled
I went down to Satan's kitchen
To break my fast one morning
And there I got souls piping hot
All on the spit a-turning.
Posted by: No BS | August 14, 2009 4:32 PM
Mr. Estes probably has Attention Deficit Disorder.
Seriously.
Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 14, 2009 4:35 PM
Just saw that girl's gallery on Deviant Art. Many pictures don't appear, but she's obviously a talented photographer.
Her bible scenes are great. OK, her Eden in not very garden-like and looks more like a sort of Australian desert. As for the Ark, one thing is sorely missing: the drowning sinners.
Now, there's still plenty of work to do! We want to see Sodom and Gomorrah, and the tower of Babel, and the guy swallowed by a whale like Pinocchio. So much fun awaits!
Posted by: Darren Garrison | August 14, 2009 4:57 PM
I'm sure just about everyone here is familiar with the Brick Testament, but just in case:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/
Posted by: Evil Merodach | August 14, 2009 6:37 PM
This is a more plausible theory of what happened to the dinosaurs during he Deluge.
http://bizarrocomic.blogspot.com/2008/11/ark-theory.html
Noah obviously didn't have time to equip all of the arks with cannons, tho'.
Posted by: Carl Buell | August 14, 2009 8:01 PM
Ah... where are the Mammoths, Mastodonts, Ground Sloths? How about an Entelodont or Brontothere? A Nimravid anyone? Is there a Chalicothere on that boat? What about the BIG non-flying birds? Is there a Phorusrhacid present? How about ANY ONE representative of the 65 million years worth of critters that science knows existed between the dinosaurs and us?
Posted by: E.V. | August 14, 2009 8:24 PM
Carl B.:
I would love to see your mural work in a Natural History Museum. Your work is fantastic. Those who haven't seen Carl's work should google him. This man is a phenomenal artist.
Posted by: heliobates | August 14, 2009 9:06 PM
Pastor-blaster rules P.Z. Town!
Posted by: Polyester Mather DD | August 14, 2009 9:12 PM
An answer to a major Mystery In Genesis has come to light with the discovery of the Book Of Elron, found engraved on a palladium tablet beneath the Temple of the Latter Day Scientologists in upstate California.
It reveals Noah]s Ark was picked clean of all the dinosaurs embarked by giant squid , who snatched the poor quadripeds off the poop deck after their banishment from the bilges by Ham and Shem , who threatened mutiny when ordered to haul coprolites of biblical proportion topside.
Posted by: Coran | August 14, 2009 11:11 PM
I'm so glad that there are people out there who take the time to do silly things like this. Thank you to the artists who put that together.
Posted by: antaresrichard | August 14, 2009 11:44 PM
Hmm, this must be that scriptural point were Adam and Eve have partaken of the fruit, Yahweh has just cursed the serpent, and the therapod is just now realizing the ridiculousness of eating carrots, what with all that beef, bacon, and flesh about.
Posted by: MaryF | August 15, 2009 12:19 PM
sorry to be late to the party, but this is something you gotta see:
http://puritybaptist.net/tp42/Application.asp?app=Directory&ID=175295
"record 1 - 1 of 1"
I guess the barbies and the sock puppets haven't yet earned their own entries yet.
Or somebody spends way too much time arguing apologetics with their opponents, and not enough time cultivating their own fields.
just sayin......
Posted by: MrrKAT, Finland | August 15, 2009 4:55 PM
You should get some reality there.
The Ark should be painted by some luminous paint and You'd shine it with UV Lamp. It simulates hell a lot of radioactivity due to atomic time shortening. For visitors a sign "Beware ! Do not touch ! Radioactivity ! " (You'd have mineral salt (KCL, Kalium is always radioactive) as cargo) gets them electrified , for ex theirs hairs up.. ;)
Posted by: Wolfgold | August 17, 2009 12:18 AM
Yeah, that's right give us something mature like Dawkins and his "Flying Spaghetti Monster". Hmmmmm.
Posted by: John Morales | August 17, 2009 12:43 AM
Wolfgold @196, huh?
I don't understand what it is you're trying to communicate.
Posted by: Wolfgold | August 17, 2009 1:05 AM
I find it both amusing and sad that a thinker such as Dawkins would stoop to such childish comparison. "Flying Spaghetti Monster"? That's the best he's got?
You know, you guys wanna play "Mock the Christians", I really have no beef with that. There are plenty of wild and wacky theories within the evolution theory itself though, why don't you give those a whirl? Actually it's chock full of it. Unless I see some irrefutable evidence on a molecular, chemical level that evolution actually works I ain't buying.
Posted by: Steve_C | August 17, 2009 1:30 AM
Yeah that whole wacky DNA thing is so hard to swallow. WTF!
We mock not just Christians. Religion. It's wacky. So is the FSM. That's the friggin' point. Or did that fly 10,000 feet over your head too? I bet you aren't buyin' gravity or polio vaccines either, right?
Posted by: Wolfgold | August 17, 2009 1:35 AM
Glad you're having fun. Pity, I actually thought there were people who reasoned on a science site. Guess, it's mostly a place for throwing tantrums. Well, enjoy
Posted by: Ilyena | August 17, 2009 2:16 AM
This is just one more reason to be ashamed of being born in Kentucky.
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