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Livonia, Michigan (Orac's home town!) is having an election for city council. This is not newsworthy. What is amusing, however, is the candidacy of Glenn Moon, who is running on the issues of abortion, littering, and paying city employees a salary of $1 per year plus the love of Jesus Christ. He is remarkably passionate about killing babies, litter, and firing heathens.
I'll be really curious to see how he does in the election. He'll get some votes, guaranteed, but probably won't get elected. Probably. Don't rule him out, though. Who knows, he may be running for vice president of the US on a slate with Glenn Beck in 2012.
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Posted by: Jeff Eyges
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August 23, 2009 10:50 AM
He seems to dislike prepositions. I guess they're forbidden - like shrimp.
Posted by: Lynna | August 23, 2009 10:51 AM
That was 2 minutes and 34 seconds too long.
Posted by: RowanVT | August 23, 2009 10:52 AM
I will never cease to be amased that they don't realise their own hypocrisy. "Abortionists are EBIL... Oh, and love your neighbors!"
And does he have something against grammar? Does God-in-name-Jesus-Christ-lord-saviour-messiah hate the words this man is constantly dropping from sentences? Maybe he should send a tornado.
Posted by: Lynna | August 23, 2009 10:55 AM
I liked the parts where he said "Livonia, pick up your trash!" and "Let's go, Livonia!"
Everything else was a sinful waste of time and energy.
Posted by: J-Ball | August 23, 2009 10:58 AM
I think Moon used to go by the name "Brother Jed" and preach on street corners on college campuses around the Midwest in the '80s. By the looks of the video, he's gotten a bit more intense since then...
Posted by: bsk | August 23, 2009 10:58 AM
Most legendary Poe of all time. Let the record show I called it first.
Posted by: mikeg | August 23, 2009 10:59 AM
eek *runs away*
Posted by: Abstruse | August 23, 2009 10:59 AM
"We will refuse to serve Evilone, spirit realm, Devil/Satan!"
In this unofficial, you laugh you lose contest, I made it to the above.
Posted by: Enkidu
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August 23, 2009 11:00 AM
WOW!
Now where are the rest of the Christians, the ones who think he's a nut? Why don't we hear them distancing their Christianity from insane wannabe theocrats like this idiot?
Posted by: ice9 | August 23, 2009 11:01 AM
It's not the issues that are the problem, or the opinions. It's his speaking style. If he does a little work, smoothing it out, not shouting, keeping his audience feeling safe, I think he's in.
ice
Posted by: Russell | August 23, 2009 11:02 AM
If J-Ball is correct, that's quite sad. I always hope that street preachers eventually mellow out a bit. What a shame that some curl up tighter and go through the second act of their life as angry hedgehogs.
Posted by: Geds | August 23, 2009 11:03 AM
It would take very little to convince me that this is a Poe written by someone for whom English is a third or fourth language.
Posted by: Carlie | August 23, 2009 11:05 AM
I did see a church sign today that said "God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts". First decent church sign I've seen.
Posted by: SCE | August 23, 2009 11:07 AM
oh, my. he's off his meds again...
Posted by: Carlie | August 23, 2009 11:08 AM
Argh, lost my blockquote - in 13 I was responding to Enkidu in 9.
Posted by: Father Nature | August 23, 2009 11:10 AM
This jack-off represents future demographic of Republican party. COM'ON LIVONIA, VOTE FOR GLENN!
Posted by: knobody | August 23, 2009 11:10 AM
all that was missing was the spittle.
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 23, 2009 11:13 AM
Eat your hearts out, Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidates!
Posted by: NewEnglandBob
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August 23, 2009 11:18 AM
Someone put this moron where he belongs, with his fantasy deity.
This is so offensive and disgusting.
Posted by: emote_control | August 23, 2009 11:18 AM
Timecube.
Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2009 11:19 AM
Holy cow, Livonia, you *have* to elect this guy. Entertainment like that can't just be allowed to wallow in obscurity.
Posted by: PalMD
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August 23, 2009 11:20 AM
Man, if that's the infamous Bro Jed, he's not getting any saner. I saw him get pwned by an anthropology prof in A2 twenty yrs ago.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, OM
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August 23, 2009 11:21 AM
I found demographics for Livonia given by the local realtors' association. About two-thirds of the way down the page is a religious breakdown. About 58% percent of the population are Catholic with the next largest group (6%) being Muslim. Lutherans, Baptists and Methodists make up the next largest groups, all at less than 4%. Unbelievers aren't given.
I wonder how the Muslim city government employees would react to being asked to work for "our Messiah, Jesus Christ"?
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 23, 2009 11:24 AM
Sounds like a reasonable voice for the Livonia city council. The town must really be in the dumper if he has a chance.
I also remember brother Jed, I don't think Jed was musically inclined.
Posted by: ChuckP | August 23, 2009 11:25 AM
This guy is a cross between Beldar Conehead and Jerry Falwell.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 23, 2009 11:25 AM
I suspect that concern would be second to being asked to work for $1.
Posted by: holomorph | August 23, 2009 11:25 AM
@5 and @22:
It's not "Brother Jed", aka George F. Smock. Jed is still working the college-campus preaching circuit, and has been at it for over thirty years. I've seen him at the University of Minnesota at least five times, the most recent visit being last autumn.
He's banned at Princeton though for, get this, conducting an involuntary exorcism. He brags about it in his book.
Posted by: Gruesome Rob | August 23, 2009 11:26 AM
Can Atheists Be Parents?
The judge in that case needs to be slapped upside the head with reality and First Amendment.
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 23, 2009 11:27 AM
Didn't he hand out the mimeographed pamplets of death to life, where his death photo was when he was a long haired druggie and his life photo was the clean cut bible thumper?
Posted by: Gruesome Rob | August 23, 2009 11:27 AM
Ack. Ignore that link, it's very old.
Posted by: Gobear | August 23, 2009 11:28 AM
Sounds like Mr. Moon cribbed his speech from a Dr. Bronner's soap label: "Absolute cleanliness is Godliness! Who else but God gave man Love that can spark mere dust to life! Poetry, uniting All-One! All brave! All life! Who else but God! "Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!"
Is anyone from Livonia running for city council on a Tom's From Maine toothpaste platform?
Posted by: Sam c | August 23, 2009 11:30 AM
Lynna:
OK, lynna, please tell us - where were the 9 seconds that were worth listening to?!
GLEENNNN MOOOOONN!! (yea, his name must be in crapital letters!) - the Lordalmightgodfatherofjesuschristoursaviourmayhisnamebeblessedamen commands you to go to heaven immediately where you are need to manage negotiations between the superhuman resources department and the union of angels. Go! Go now!
Luckily he's not my neighbor. So I don't have to love him. Mm.
Posted by: Frank Oswalt | August 23, 2009 11:32 AM
His strange grammar might be caused by a mild case of expressive aphasia or some related neurological disorder.
Posted by: cartologist | August 23, 2009 11:33 AM
It bothered me to watch this until I started to picture a cream pie splattering in his puss.
Posted by: Troy | August 23, 2009 11:34 AM
Holy shit!
That guy is insane!
Posted by: Claire | August 23, 2009 11:35 AM
I never knew that "Jesus" had so many syllables or that Jesus Christ was just his first name.
Posted by: Doc Bill | August 23, 2009 11:36 AM
That was too good! Got to be Poe.
Posted by: Jason A. | August 23, 2009 11:38 AM
He scared me at the end.
Posted by: SEBC | August 23, 2009 11:38 AM
Oh my, hahaha.
Posted by: Lynna | August 23, 2009 11:38 AM
Sam c. @34
See my comments @#4. In addition to those moments, I liked the part where the Crazy Fucker paused for a few nanoseconds to look at his notes. Hey, he wrote it down like that! Thank the gawds he preserved that rant -- I'd hate to think that it might be lost to posterity.
Posted by: J-Ball | August 23, 2009 11:39 AM
@11, I was only kidding. Moon's style very much like Jed's, but he's a different guy.
@24, you must have missed Jed's Gay Song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWKXutlgOs
It was a staple at his appearances, much like Sister Pat's "Dos and Don'ts of Dating"
This Moon guy is over the top. As extreme as he is (admit it, you've seen more subdued street preachers), he'll still get some votes.
Posted by: karen | August 23, 2009 11:39 AM
ChuckP:
"This guy is a cross between Beldar Conehead and Jerry Falwell. "
Abso-fuckin-lutely!
Posted by: Marvin | August 23, 2009 11:43 AM
gobear, at least the late Dr. Bronner put out a good product, looney or no. :)
I wonder if it might be in Livonia's best interest to go ahead and elect this spooky guy? He'll flail and spin and speak in tongues or whatever it is he's speaking in, and prove that the delusions of the batshit religious zealot have no place in government or public policy. No, wait, we saw this in Wasilla, didn't we? Never mind.
Posted by: XD | August 23, 2009 11:43 AM
Oh, the most they will say is that he's not a True Christian ™. They can't criticise his theology too much, because their theology is just as valid/invalid.Posted by: David Cleveland | August 23, 2009 11:47 AM
I'm going to call a "parody alert" on this guy. It's to ridicules to be true.
Posted by: Doc Bill | August 23, 2009 11:47 AM
I may have been too hasty in my Poe assessment.
Turns out that Moon submitted THAT video as his "Meet the Candidates" entry on Lavonia's election page:
http://www.livonia.org/candidates.asp
Unless he's the town comedian ... yikes!
Posted by: george.w | August 23, 2009 11:48 AM
No way. Beldar was a fundamentally decent character (like all of Dan Ackroyd's roles) who saw the worth in humanity. This guy sees none of it.
Jerry Falwall, though, that's an apt comparison.
Posted by: Rakehell | August 23, 2009 11:48 AM
Oddly, playback of that video kept stalling out every time he said GAHHD. It was rather annoying.
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 23, 2009 11:51 AM
Jed had staying power, he was sprayed down with a fire hose and continued his preaching. I wouldn't recognize him now. Looks like he has become well fed over the years.
J-Ball the Jed video doesn't qualify as musically inclined.
Posted by: Will Buxton | August 23, 2009 11:51 AM
If he was from the anywhere else, I'd call Poe's Law, but as it's the US of A, he seems like the real deal.
Posted by: Jafafa Hots | August 23, 2009 11:52 AM
Livonia City Council is not good enough.
I say we start a move to draft him as 2012 GOP Presidental Candidate.
Moon/Palin 2012!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 23, 2009 11:52 AM
Mr. Moon can i trade my "Love of Jesus Christ" paycheck for a year long subscription to bacon of the month club?
I know, I know, it's not really a fair trade for you guys but just think, you'll get to keep that Jesus love for yourself.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 23, 2009 11:54 AM
Wait a minute.
Love of Jesus Christ?
I they offering to pay you with sexual favors?
Posted by: Troy | August 23, 2009 11:56 AM
I would actually vote fore this guy and hope he wins just to see what would happen.
Posted by: Cay | August 23, 2009 11:56 AM
This guy cannot be for real. Sure, the abortion thing, but littering and $1 salaries? I never saw Brother Jed, but this guy sounds exactly like Elwood Blues.
Posted by: Bjoern Brembs | August 23, 2009 11:59 AM
What's the adjective for when the real thing is even more ridiculous than the satire of it?
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, OM
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August 23, 2009 12:01 PM
You want Livonia to be covered with trash? The littering rant was the only time Moon came close to rationality.
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 23, 2009 12:02 PM
Moons the real deal. Google Glenn Moon and Livonia, you'll get blog pages that range from an around town site to a priest and all say he is wacky. I read through 6 different blogs.
Posted by: Egaeus | August 23, 2009 12:03 PM
M-o-o-n. That spells batshiat insane.
Posted by: Vidar | August 23, 2009 12:05 PM
Holy shit! Why hasn't this nutjob been locked up in a straight jacket yet?
Posted by: Nikki L. | August 23, 2009 12:08 PM
I could tolerate only about 30 seconds of this. He lost me at abortion being the "most evil action ever perpetrated" in all of humanity's history.
Also, my husband is behind me asking why he smells brimstone when this guy talks?
Posted by: Scott M | August 23, 2009 12:09 PM
No doubt a few people have already made a similar comment, but I just have to get it off my chest.
Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to the next GOP Presidential candidate.
Posted by: Mike from Ottawa | August 23, 2009 12:10 PM
Really? I think he's a lunatic, but, hey, you're an atheist so I suppose I should accept your version of what I think rather than my own.
As to why 'the rest of the Christians' haven't been distancing themselves from Moon the loon, well, my handle here should give some of the brighter folk a clue. Livonia politics aren't a hot topic here in Ottawa, where I suspect most folk have only heard of Livonia, Michigan in ads for 'The Jewelry Factory' on TV (the local cable suppliers takes their US channels from Detroit).
I also don't spend my days hunting out all the loonies out there (perhaps Enkidu does). There are millions of them and life is short. And I don't feel I'm any more obliged to address every daft thing said by any Christian anywhere than you do any daft thing said by any member of any group you identify yourself as belonging to.
Posted by: AdamK | August 23, 2009 12:10 PM
What the City of Livonia obviously really needs is a good hard look at its mental health services funding.
Posted by: Lilith | August 23, 2009 12:12 PM
Frank @#33
I'm with you on the aphasia diagnosis. It was definitely specific words he wasn't saying. I picked up 'of', 'the', 'for' and 'their' as being missing.
Anyone else get any others?
Posted by: Rick R | August 23, 2009 12:14 PM
"M-o-o-n. That spells batshit insane."
And stay away from those apples, Tom.
Posted by: Raiko | August 23, 2009 12:15 PM
Is someone holding a gun to his ass or does he have a migraine?
Posted by: PJG | August 23, 2009 12:16 PM
The unions must totally love this guy. I'm sure their contracts include provisions for $1 salaries if god so decrees...
Posted by: SimonC | August 23, 2009 12:17 PM
This makes me concerned, again, about the well-being of American society. I live in Australia, and am well insulated from these fools for now, but as a student of history these people seem to be the bellwether of a shattering of the best things from US polity. Not to sound too dramatic, but if I were there I would be standing up, not at a national level now, (you've done that) but at a local level.
These people seem to be convinced that their lack of knowledge is a strength, something rudimentary and beyond question. They are in touch with something greater than fact. It means that you cannot sway them by words.
Anwers, anyone? Bueller?
Posted by: Inigo | August 23, 2009 12:17 PM
He failed the Turing test.
Posted by: AdamK | August 23, 2009 12:23 PM
I don't identify myself as belonging to any group by choice. I was born into certain demographic groups and fall into others, but I don't identify with them. The problem with religions is that their doctrines are tailor-made for goofiness, having no principles by which true statements can be distinguished from lunacy. And you choose to identify yourself with that.
Posted by: JebusMan | August 23, 2009 12:24 PM
Dude.. I agree with this freak. Pay 'city employees', ie Governmental, especially the highest, a low salary, the most suitable one would the the median average as this would want them to improve their community and raise that average, and henceforth, raise their own salaries. Good job.
Oh, the jebus part needs to go, Sorry.
Posted by: Alienheart | August 23, 2009 12:26 PM
Re #70: I'd bet the last US president would have failed it too, so that won't be a problem for him.
Posted by: Niall | August 23, 2009 12:28 PM
Is he a spoofer? Is he actually for real?
Posted by: Stefan
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August 23, 2009 12:28 PM
What an angry little theocratic Scheißkerl. Surely he would have to tone down his rhetoric or face State/Church separation proceedings?
Posted by: bsk | August 23, 2009 12:31 PM
JefFlyingV (#58): All that means is it's a well-executed Poe.
There are too many satirical glances and exaggerations in just the right places. I'm not ruling out the possibility of being wrong, mind you, since this is the US, but even allowing for this I'd be pretty shocked if it were real.
Posted by: tsg | August 23, 2009 12:32 PM
@Mike from Ottawa #63
What makes you think they were talking about you?
Posted by: XD | August 23, 2009 12:35 PM
I'm guessing paranoid schizophrenia.
Posted by: Bobber | August 23, 2009 12:39 PM
I knew I wouldn't be the only person to hear Dan Ackroyd in this video. The difference being, Dan Ackroyd is funny. This was funny, but with a hint of deadly earnestness to it. Do you get the feeling this guy doesn't mind violence directed against abortion providers?
Posted by: marcia | August 23, 2009 12:39 PM
He says
"JEEEEEZUZ CHRIST!
like I say Jesus Christ when I burn the toast.
Posted by: Bad Albert | August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
I visited Livonia, Michigan briefly last summer and I don't remember seeing a litter problem. Things must have gotten really bad in the past year but nothing like how bad they'll be in the next year if this guy gets elected.
Posted by: AVSN | August 23, 2009 12:45 PM
THIS guy, yeah nut bar. by no means an acceptable representative of those of us who believe in God.
Posted by: AndThenSome | August 23, 2009 12:48 PM
So that's what comic sans sounds like!
Posted by: Alverant | August 23, 2009 12:49 PM
I have to wonder if he would take his anti-littering message to businesses and industries that pollute. You know, the people who would make campaign contributions.
Posted by: Lee | August 23, 2009 12:49 PM
I can think of only one response to such a man.
JESUS CHRIST!
On the plus side he makes more sense to me than Sarah Palin
Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2009 12:49 PM
Fuck, that scared the shit out of me. Thanks PZ, now I'm going to have nightmares about my local council.
Posted by: spinetingler | August 23, 2009 12:49 PM
BSK called it first; I'm just piling on.
Epic Poe taken into the real world.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 23, 2009 12:50 PM
Since when are you the arbiter of who represents God?
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 23, 2009 12:55 PM
AVSN,
But if we judge by what's in the Bible, Glenn Moon is quite the reasonable moderate when compared with that crazy sadistic psychopath Jahweh.
Posted by: salon_1928 | August 23, 2009 12:55 PM
He looks so angry...
He also looks like a classic young to mid-life conversion. Maybe a failed business, failed relationship, alcoholic, guilt over homosexual feelings...
Posted by: Gregory Greenwood | August 23, 2009 12:59 PM
Knockgoats @ 18;
"Eat your hearts out, Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidates!"
The sad part is that in the UK the Monster Raving Loony Green Teeth Party (got to get the full handle in) makes a conscious effort to behave as manically as possible to satirise mainstream politics and try to ensure that politicians do not take themselves too seriously, and yet they are effortlessly out-crazied by American religious right nutbags who propose their 'policies' in all seriousness.
Truly, this day we Brits are learning at the feet of the master . . .
Posted by: Ryan | August 23, 2009 1:03 PM
Gee $1 yearly salary and working for this guy or job termination. It isn't a hard decision even in this economy.
Posted by: Souljacker | August 23, 2009 1:09 PM
Why do I imagine this played in a constant loop on vid screens in some dystopian future? Welcome, Welcome to city 17.
@#88. I don't think the person you quoted said anything about who or who does not represent God. They merely pointed out that this whackjob should not be taken as some kind of representative of all people who believe in God. I'm not trying to get at you or anything but you came across a little eager to jump down the theist's throat there.
Posted by: Geoff | August 23, 2009 1:09 PM
I was going to call Poe as well, but it seems that this might be real.
I've heard very similar from a schizophrenic in crisis after prolonged refusal of meds, though.
Posted by: Funkopolis | August 23, 2009 1:09 PM
Finally, someone qualified to narrate the TimeCube audiobook!
Posted by: Gerry | August 23, 2009 1:10 PM
What can you expect when you have preachers make the following statements - quote from landover baptist church "guaranteeing salvation since 1620" sermon by pastor deacon fred. "As true bible believing christians, we have a much better understanding about the fate of this planet than any biologist, environmentalist,or so-called scientist because we have a personal relationship with the fellow who created this place to begin with! Friends, as true christians then, being familiar with the holy bible gives you more authority than anyone who holds a post-graduate degree! That's something to be proud of - don't wince about it! And don't let people call you crazy! God's holy scriptures give the poorest farmer's servant in our congregation the power to win an argument with a Bio-chemist or a Nuclear physicist - without even knowing a lick about what them folks studied in their fancy secular universities! What these ignorant unsaved,over-educated folks don't understand is that they can gather all the data ,all the research and present all the facts they care to collect about any subject under the sun - but when you hold it next to child-like faith in the almighty god, the most learned evolutionist or environmentalist, will widen their blind eyes in awe, and cower in fear at the truth of god's word!"
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 23, 2009 1:10 PM
Monster Raving Loony Green Teeth Party Gregory Greenwood
I stand corrected! My sincere apologies to the party for calling them by a name that was not quite silly enough!
Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2009 1:11 PM
Well, I'm still voting for The Standing at the back, dressed stupidly and looking stupid party. I've stuck with them for years, and I'm not jumping ship just because there's someone else that looks stupiderer.
Posted by: Dan | August 23, 2009 1:12 PM
There's no need to snap at well-meaning Christians who have left comments trying to distance themselves from Moon. @88, Rev. BigDumbChimp, AVSN said nothing about who represents God, only that Moon does not represent the average believer. It's an important distinction, and a fair point, I think.
I hope this does turn out to be a prank. I doubt it will, but I hope it does. There are plenty of crazies you can just laugh off, but this guy actually frightens me.
Moon used the phrase "God in name Jesus" or variants thereof 12 times in that video - an average of once every 14 seconds. A tad excessive? Naw...
Posted by: Gustaf | August 23, 2009 1:12 PM
My reaction from watching a full 30 seconds of this trash was "Is he for real? It must be some kind of parody..."
Posted by: Dan | August 23, 2009 1:14 PM
@95, Funkopolis: HA! Well played, sir.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 23, 2009 1:17 PM
Rev. BDC was correct to jump on AVSN, who has been here for a while, and should know better than to try the No True Scotsman fallacious argument.
Posted by: Ian | August 23, 2009 1:19 PM
Dan Aykroyd in Blues Brothers anyone?
Posted by: Penguin_Factory | August 23, 2009 1:23 PM
I can't decide whether this is funny or scary.
Also, does anyone else get the impression he's just bandying around random buzzwords? "Lord in God's son's power of spirit Jesus Christ Lavonia servents of spirit's will....."
Posted by: Phro | August 23, 2009 1:23 PM
Did anyone else get the feeling that he wrote that speech using a twisted form of madlibs?
And if Mike Gravel was criticized for getting too excited in the primary debates, how can this guy stand a chance?
Posted by: Ron Sullivan | August 23, 2009 1:26 PM
Jafafa Hots in #51:
Moon/Palin 2012!
Is that a complete sentence?
Posted by: Stardrake
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August 23, 2009 1:26 PM
Gerry @ 96--Landover Baptist is the Poe of Poes. It's a long-running, way-too-much-time-on-their-hands joke.
The sad thing is, you could find something just as crazy on any number of serious sites. But don't use Landover--it's not real.
Posted by: Robert Madewell | August 23, 2009 1:26 PM
I hope he wins! After of term of that, the city will say, "never again!"
He is even more over the top than most fundies. I'd almost call Poe, but I'd probably be wrong. I'd be willing to bet that he's for real, but only $0.25. On second thought, no I will not bet on this one.
I think I'll send this vid to my fundie friends and family. I will tell them that this is what they can expect from a theocracy.
Posted by: Tabby Lavalamp | August 23, 2009 1:26 PM
I have to take exception to this comment. There is no way Irwin Mainway was a fundamentally decent character.Posted by: CarlosT | August 23, 2009 1:29 PM
The giant flaw in this idea is that, if Livonia is like most cities, city employees are probably already making less than they could in private industry. Maybe right now would be a hard time to find another job, but if you're vastly underpaying someone, they're just going to leave and you'll get no qualified applicants to replace them. They're not going to stick around busting their asses to try to get the median salary to rise to their old salaries, if that's even possible.
People who suggest things like this are essentially anarchists, maybe without really realizing it. Saying that you want to pay all city employees $1 is saying you want to abolish the city government. Which can sound cool to some people but there's a reason the city government exists. Forget the really basic stuff like police and fire departments, cities also help keep things livable. Unless you've foreseen every possible thing your neighbors could conceivably do with their property and put covenants against it, without zoning laws, there's nothing stopping him from deciding to open an aluminum smelter or some other completely unreasonable thing to have in a residential area.
Posted by: Meat Robot | August 23, 2009 1:31 PM
@33 and 65
I didn't detect any use of articles or prepositions. At his rate of speech, that would be astonishing if it were intentional. So, it's either a memorized and rehearsed text, or he has some sort of speech disorder.
Aphasia doesn't really fit, and it doesn't look like a dementia (well, not in the clinical sense. . .), so some other sort of speech disorder.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 23, 2009 1:34 PM
I am curious about the number of times Moon says "Jesus Christ" in the two and one half minute clip, but I do not want to watch this a second time.
Even if this man was saying something I agreed with, I would be avoiding him at all costs. His mannerisms would set my nerves on edge. Also, I do not take well to a person randomly yelling at me.
Posted by: Alyson Miers | August 23, 2009 1:35 PM
@96: Landover Baptist Church is a parody. That's not a genuine sermon from a real preacher. It's purely Poe.
Posted by: AVSN | August 23, 2009 1:35 PM
Meat at 111
certainly not aphasia, I have that so know what i'm talking about. Dementia might be a possible diagnosis, but only in the sense that atheists concider all those who believe in God to be demented.
Posted by: XD | August 23, 2009 1:39 PM
@ #114
Need some straw there?
Posted by: Stuart | August 23, 2009 1:41 PM
Was that actually in English?
If he gets in it'll be sad for all the employees who get effectively laid off, but will be fun to see how he runs the place by himself
Posted by: ThirtyFiveUp | August 23, 2009 1:43 PM
#83 AndThenSome
Score!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 23, 2009 1:47 PM
O RLY?
And a lighter?
Posted by: Alienheart | August 23, 2009 1:47 PM
Did anyone else think he was trying to say "Elbonia"? At least it would best describe the state of the town once he's finished with it.
Posted by: PixelFish | August 23, 2009 1:48 PM
Is God going to feed and pay the rent of city employees?
This guy has the diction and pacing of Dean Koontz's dog, Trixie. But with more hellfire, as Trixie prefers talking about heaven and the bureacracy of the eternal.
If the city of Livonia really needs a crazy person leading them, I would go with the dead ghost dog over the hellfire-and-brimstone frothing-at-the-mouth grammar-deficient Glenn Moon.
Do the words "the" and "of" invoke Satan? Or maybe Beetlejuice?
Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 1:53 PM
Literally the last thing a real anarchist would want to do is abolish city government.
Posted by: weeblysmackers
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August 23, 2009 1:53 PM
At last, a politician that most Americans can identify with! This guy is definitely somebody I can identify with.
Posted by: J-Ball | August 23, 2009 1:55 PM
What's with the "god in name jesus christ"??? He never says just "god". Is it something like my uncle used to do, writing JMJ and BVM in the margins of postcards and letters he wrote?
Posted by: tsg | August 23, 2009 1:56 PM
In other words:
"Hey you group of people, stop grouping people!"
Posted by: DaveL | August 23, 2009 1:57 PM
It appears he actually participated in a candidates' forum put on by the League of Women Voters.
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090818/NEWS10/308180004/Livonia+City+Council+candidates+take+aim+at+issues
His take on whether or not to maintain all 3 of the current public libraries:
Posted by: Rick R | August 23, 2009 2:00 PM
"He visits Canton libraries because certain Livonia library staffers do not allow him to clean up his computer area."
Yech. The first image that flashed in my head involved him cleaning his computer area...... with his tongue. Oh, the crazy.
I'll get my coat.
Posted by: Abstruse | August 23, 2009 2:02 PM
"Moon said the city should eliminate abortion to attract new businesses. The city also should eliminate “individual pieces of trash” in the community, he added."
What businesses?
Posted by: Dania
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August 23, 2009 2:05 PM
Wow. That guy is either completely insane or a great comedian. Scary...
Janine,
I counted 12 times. 12.
Posted by: No BS | August 23, 2009 2:05 PM
Shock collar.
My finger on the remote.
All is bliss.
Bzzzzzzt!!!!!!
Posted by: GodlessWonder | August 23, 2009 2:06 PM
The thing that always amazes me with loonies like this is the massive ego involved. They are so confident that they have been "chosen" by god and are his mouthpiece here on earth. The whole "god talks to me and motivates me" thing is so very delusional I don't know whether to laugh or cry. To paraphrase Bill Maher..."those voices you hear in your head...that's you!
Posted by: me | August 23, 2009 2:06 PM
This guy is pointlessly intense.
Posted by: Alyson Miers | August 23, 2009 2:07 PM
I don't think all people who believe in God are demented; just mistaken. Carrying the belief systems to their (il)logical conclusions is another matter, but the individuals themselves are for the most part able to compartmentalize, so they protect the sensible parts of their minds from the crazypants territory their beliefs would like to inhabit.
Posted by: Rick R | August 23, 2009 2:07 PM
“individual pieces of trash”
Wait, are we sure he's talking about litter?
Posted by: Darren Garrison | August 23, 2009 2:09 PM
Looks like Mr. Moon is reeeeally bothered by the trash:
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090816/NEWS10/908160499/1027/Candidates-take-aim-at-issues
"Glenn Moon supports three libraries and believes that the public should have access to computers there. He visits Canton libraries because certain Livonia library staffers do not allow him to clean up his computer area. “(Canton) lets me clean my computer area,” Moon said. “All I was trying to do was keep my work surface clean.”"
Posted by: Gerry | August 23, 2009 2:09 PM
@ 113
Thanks for the heads up. That poe sermon certainly sounds like the baptists in my neck of the woods though.
Posted by: BMcP | August 23, 2009 2:10 PM
I bet he is just a blast at parties.
Posted by: Rey Fox | August 23, 2009 2:18 PM
So, is abortion really a city issue?
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 23, 2009 2:26 PM
No, and a quick yellow pages check showed a couple of "pregnancy crisis" centers in Livonia, but no advertising abortion provider.Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 2:28 PM
Yes, but he may also be using it as a metaphor. Perhaps he has layers, like an ogre.
Posted by: JHS
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August 23, 2009 2:30 PM
AAAAhhhh. Teh Stoopid, it burns. Don't count him out. Jeez, Sarah Palin has made it this far on...nothing. And yet she's "A Major Political Figure," while remaining one of the most proudly stupid and gleefully ignorant persons I've ever encountered. I expect Moon will shortly announce his candidacy for President, and he'll join a long list of cranks who were blissfully tone-deaf to...everything.
Posted by: jpf | August 23, 2009 2:31 PM
While he's certainly entertaining to watch, those of you expressing concern over someone like him being in an election need some perspective. He's running in the primary election. Primaries always bring out the loonies, since (depending on position and local laws) all you need to be an official candidate is to pay some minimal filing fee, which gets you in the voters' pamphlet and on the official elections website right next to the serious candidates. These people are often politely referred to as "perennial candidates" since they often don't know how to take getting only 1% of the vote as a "no, thank you".
My favorite perennial candidate from Washington State is Michael Goodspaceguy Nelson (yes, that's his real middle name -- he had it legally changed), who has run in various Seattle, county, and state primaries on a platform focused mainly on the colonization of orbital space (he will talk about other issues -- he's a libertarian -- but he sees that as his Big Idea to eventually solve all problems). He just ran again in the primaries for King County Executive. He lost.
Posted by: Elliot Robert | August 23, 2009 2:37 PM
This is why those who question the current acceptance of abortion can't be taken serious. These religious nuts drag god into the debate every time.
Posted by: sbh
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August 23, 2009 2:39 PM
What's with the odd semi-telegraphic style? I don't think this guy uses "the" at all, and he uses "of" inconsistently. And the piling up of random titles in phrases like "Heavenly Father Almighty God in name God's son Jesus Christ Lord Savior Messiah" comes across as some sort of strange verbal tic. And what about Who talks like this? Also calling upon God to "decree through power holy spirit no more love your neighbor as you love yourself"--that is, to nullify scripture--doesn't sound like something an actual christian would do. And something sounds off to me in "remembering always when we cease to exist as living breathing human beings upon our human demise death there is spiritual judgment from god in name Jesus Christ." I'm not saying it isn't real. But I have serious doubts about this one.Posted by: Ick of the East | August 23, 2009 2:43 PM
For a long time I couldn't place that voice. Then it hit me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjzZhTS_xa0
Posted by: LeeLeeOne | August 23, 2009 2:45 PM
Poe anyone? puleeeze?
omgs! no?!
Blech!
Posted by: Eric Houg | August 23, 2009 2:45 PM
Why do so many of these nutjobs seem completely unable to speak English.
Posted by: crs | August 23, 2009 2:47 PM
Every time he recited the 31 flavors of Jebus I was reminded of Kathy Griffin imitating her Catholic mother.
Posted by: Michael Eyby | August 23, 2009 2:48 PM
well, at least he's on the right track with litter, but that's about it.
Posted by: The Countess | August 23, 2009 2:49 PM
Was it my imagination, or was he more upset over littering than killin' babies?
Just to be a pain, I would love to point out to him that the Bible only allows for the paying of a fine if a pregnant woman is attacked and the attack results in her miscarrying. If she dies, however, it's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Godbags hate it when you point that out. The relevant Bible text is Exodus 21:22-25. Wanna see a Godbag get apoplexy? Just quote that stuff when defending abortion.
Posted by: Tim | August 23, 2009 2:49 PM
Is it just me, or does his odd grammar make him sound a little bit like Rorschach from Watchmen at times? (The lack of "the", in particular.)
Posted by: ray | August 23, 2009 2:55 PM
The grammar reminds me of Francis E Dec Esq. Schizophrenia?
Posted by: Abstruse | August 23, 2009 2:57 PM
They can't be taken seriously because their position doesn't warrant it.
Posted by: hje | August 23, 2009 3:02 PM
He hasn't mastered the Glenn Beck pouty/weepy face yet.
Posted by: David | August 23, 2009 3:03 PM
He's having way too much fun, I call POE but when what you are mocking is equally absurd one never knows.
Posted by: Pascalle
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August 23, 2009 3:10 PM
Some christian he is.. he forgot to say amen after his prayer.
tsk tsk.
He'll burn in hell for that, right?
Posted by: Jing-reed | August 23, 2009 3:12 PM
According to the neighbor of 'Moon Man', who commented on a Livonia blog http://villagethinker.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/raving-nutbag-running-for-livonias-city-council/ he is 51 and still lives at home with his aged parents. Also likes to trim the trees in his yard with flood lights at 2:00 a.m., no doubt the best time to communicate directly with Heavenly Father Almighty God Son Jesus Christ Lord Savior Messiah Holy Spirit, etc.
Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 3:13 PM
That's a reason why, but not the primary reason. Remember, most pro-choicers in the US also believe in the Abrahamic god. They value women as deserving of basic human rights, like the right to control one's own body. Some of them, though, believe those rights are "endowed by their Creator."
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 23, 2009 3:20 PM
What's with the odd semi-telegraphic style? I don't think this guy uses "the" at all, and he uses "of" inconsistently. And the piling up of random titles in phrases like "Heavenly Father Almighty God in name God's son Jesus Christ Lord Savior Messiah" comes across as some sort of strange verbal tic. - sbh
According to my wife, who's a speech and language therapist, it could be a mild form of a condition called telegraphic aphasia, which can result from stroke or other forms of brain damage.
Posted by: MikeTheInfidel | August 23, 2009 3:29 PM
Holy tits.
Glad I'm not the only one who was reminded of the TimeCube guy.
Posted by: Geds | August 23, 2009 3:32 PM
Jing-reed @156: According to the neighbor of 'Moon Man', who commented on a Livonia blog
Maybe it's just a Livonia thing, or possibly a that-particular-street-in-Livonia thing, but Moon's neighbor's post on that blog had some really weird diction, too...
Although the idea of being bothered by a fish pond specifically between 3 and 6 am is kind of funny. I'm guessing that Moon has severe, possibly undiagnosed, probably untreated mental problems. It's tough to armchair psychoanalyze over the internet, but that's the impression I get.
Posted by: Mark B. | August 23, 2009 3:33 PM
WTF. Putting aside the weird chanting and invocation of imaginary friends, why the hell should city employees forgo salary for one year? They are real people with families, and I bet most of them weren't that well paid to begin with. It's very unlikely more that a couple of them could afford to work for free for one year. Why does this dumb motherfucker hate people who work for a living so much?
Posted by: sasqwatch | August 23, 2009 3:33 PM
"Movable type" signin not working (forbidden)... oh well...
So many priceless moments in that speech of his.
What killed me was when he snapped to a "let us pray" and bowed his head. Sounded to me like he was already praying before he said that. All I could think at that point was: "holy jeebus, now the shit's REALLY gonna fly."
Posted by: MikeTheInfidel | August 23, 2009 3:35 PM
BTW:
Here's his MySpace page.
He writes the same way he speaks: like he's reciting the names of variables in a computer program.
There's another story about him here, including the following awesomely sad comment from his neighbor:
Posted by: MikeTheInfidel | August 23, 2009 3:38 PM
HOLY CRAP! Look what he submitted to the Livonia voters' guide! (page 9)
Posted by: Ray Ingles | August 23, 2009 3:39 PM
My wife's bakery is in Livonia, so I'm there a fair amount and she's there all the time. No big problems with abortion or litter - no more than any other U.S. city. (Not as clean as the towns and cities I've seen in Canada, sadly, but hardly a dystopian trashscape.)
Based on my knowledge of the population... he's certainly not representative. I'd say this guy has no measurable chance of winning, unless low turnout allows major 'sampling error'.
Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 3:44 PM
:D
sasqwatch win
Posted by: Mark B. | August 23, 2009 3:44 PM
OK, this guy isn't a typical christian. To be fair to other christians, he's way more crazy. In my opinion, it's just a matter of degree, but he's at least two standards beyond the norm of christian crazy.
Posted by: natural cynic | August 23, 2009 3:45 PM
This Moon appears to be harmlessly deluded. Unlike this one.
Posted by: Geds | August 23, 2009 3:47 PM
MikeTheInfidel @164: HOLY CRAP! Look what he submitted to the Livonia voters' guide! (page 9)
Apparently in Glenn Moon's world godhatesspaces.
Also, this:
"relevant skills include
written and spoken ability to
communicate with other humanbeings
also ability related to organizational technique"
Yup. That's the guy's plus column.
Posted by: M Clifford Pickard | August 23, 2009 3:49 PM
"Joliet" Jake Blues. He's on a mission from God. He's fried Chicken. It's night. Half a tank of gas. And he's wearing sunglasses.
Posted by: Alexander | August 23, 2009 3:50 PM
it was almost as funny as Lewis Black's standup about religion! LoL, I can't say it wasn't entertaining! :)
Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 3:51 PM
HOLY CRAP MikeTheInfidel blessed art thou
IMoon.Glenn born into humanexistence
1958May22 hospitalHarper
USAMichigan_Detroitdowntown
additional biographical information
may be studied from internetaddresses
www.myspace.com/mojazzorch
www.circuspace.com/profile/glennmoon
www.myyearbook.com/moonman1111
www.facebook.com/familymoon1111
IMoon running for citycouncilLivonia
seeking to fulfill my spiritual duty and responsibility
lead this world of lost humansouls
to eternal salvation from
HeavenlyFatherAlmightyGod
through GodSon
JesusChristLordSaviorMessiah
relevant quality is fact I am
worldhistoric spiritualleader
prophetofGodinnameJesusChrist
I have been spiritually blessed by
GodinnameJesusChrist through power
HolySpiritfromGodinnameJesusChrist
to have witnessed worldhistoric acts of
GodinnameJesusChrist including
2001January30 cemeteryWalledLake
suburbDetroitMichiganUSA
spiritualresurrection BrideChristKellyCockerham
relevant skills include
written and spoken ability to
communicate with other humanbeings
also ability related to organizational technique
top three priority issues are elimination of
ABORTION
premeditatedmurder fetalhomicide childkilling
abortion is smoothsoundingword
representing singular most evil action
ever taken by humanbeings
in history of humanbeings
IMPOSITION OF SELF UPON NEIGHBOR
includes peacedisturbance
TRASH
specifically related to
individual pieces of trash found on
homeproperty businessproperty
governmentproperty city state federal
including roads and land connected to roads
IMoon would introduce legislation and
participate in physicalprocess
involved with accomplishing objectives
Posted by: Jody | August 23, 2009 3:51 PM
After rolling my eyes, I did a little googling. It's pretty obvious he's mentally ill, with several deficits. Being 51 and living with his 80 year-old parents is the first big clue, well, on top of all the rest.
This guy doesn't bother me so much. He's one step away from a 5150 -- and will stumble fairly soon.
I worry more about the Huckabees of the world: perfectly sane people who believe completely insane things.
Posted by: GOD | August 23, 2009 3:53 PM
First, I don't know this guy from Adam. He ain't one of MY people.
Next, I'm all for the working man so the $1 annual salary thing doesn't fly with me. I mean, how're they gonna eat on a buck a year? I stopped with the manna years ago.
As a benediction, let me say this: even I can't fix stupid.
XOXO,
GOD
Posted by: MikeTheInfidel | August 23, 2009 3:55 PM
No... you just believe in an intelligent being with no physical form who is capable of willing a woman into pregnancy and thus fathering ... himself.Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 3:55 PM
Well, in all fairness, he is communicating effectively, in that we all understand generally what he's getting at. He should hire me as his editor, but he is ... concise.
Posted by: dsmccoy | August 23, 2009 3:56 PM
I seriously hope this man does not own weapons.
Posted by: booger | August 23, 2009 4:00 PM
Poe, fo sho. And what has he done with Wallace Shawn?
Posted by: Butterbean | August 23, 2009 4:05 PM
Hey, Americans! This joke was quite funny in the '90s, but it's kind of old hat now. You've pushed it too far, and 'jumped the shark'. I was taken in at first (and scared shitless), but we don't believe you any more. It's too obviously a put-on.
This guy and the 'death panels' shit just shows that your scriptwriters have worked the seam out completely. C'mon, own up: no-one in your country thinks the Earth is 6000 years old, or that they've been abducted by aliens, or that evolution is anything other than How It Is.
Old joke is old. Y'all carried it off really well, straight faces all round, good gag.
Please?
Posted by: Albert of Riga | August 23, 2009 4:07 PM
This is the second Livonian crusade! He should consider running under the banner of Livonian Brothers of the Sword - that would be very appropriate!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livonian_Crusade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livonian_Brothers_of_the_Sword
Posted by: strange gods before me | August 23, 2009 4:11 PM
Clearly this man is not fully well. Also, clearly, he is being encouraged by other Christians; note his participation in another's "spiritual resurrection", possibly baptism.
It's likely that in the absence of Christianity he'd have something else to concentrate on.
Don't the more grounded Christians have an ethical obligation to notice when someone is obsessing, and direct them toward something less "worldhistorical"?
He shows no sign of insanity, per se. He's probably aware that he's not performing at the peak of his ability. He's got a right to participate in the political process, and we've got a right to criticize him.
I'm just thinking he'd probably be happier if he weren't convinced that the abortion of millions of fetuses is the major issue of our time. And I doubt he came to that conclusion entirely without some minister's suggestion.
Posted by: rt | August 23, 2009 4:12 PM
> This guy is a cross between Beldar Conehead and Jerry Falwell.
except you forgot to mention he is running for the job of the pleasantville chamber of commerce guy after being refused a job with the JaguarJones institute as a writer of young earth creationist pwnership manuals.
I love youtube
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, OM
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August 23, 2009 4:14 PM
If Moon's suggestion of cutting city employees' salaries, then only people who can afford to work without compensation will be employees. Livonia has municipal trash collection. How many rich people will be willing to be garbage collectors?
In the 1860s there was a proposal in the British Parliament about whether members should be paid a salary. The motion was overwhelmingly defeated since it was felt that only the elite (i.e., people who didn't rely on wages or salaries to support themselves) were capable of running the country. If an MP was giving a salary, then anyone might run for Parliament. It wasn't until 1911 that MPs were paid a salary of £400 per year.
Posted by: amber of theambershow | August 23, 2009 4:21 PM
This is the way the creepy fascists talk in the book Pygmy by Chuck Palahniuk.
Posted by: Nemo | August 23, 2009 4:30 PM
It would be only fair. Christians are always trying to tell us what we think.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | August 23, 2009 4:32 PM
Geds @ # 160: It's tough to armchair psychoanalyze over the internet...
Damnit, where is Dr. Bill Frist when we need him?
Posted by: Richard W (Sussex, England) | August 23, 2009 4:33 PM
Glen Moon, lunatic.
'Nuff said
Posted by: Aetre | August 23, 2009 4:39 PM
Totally showing this to everyone I know. Top notch accidental comedy, there. :)
Posted by: Crocoduck | August 23, 2009 4:54 PM
Heeheehee, the light is bouncing off his shiny head. Oh, and he's crazy as a shithouse rat, too, but he's right about the littering part.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 23, 2009 5:00 PM
No... you just believe in an intelligent being with no physical form who is capable of willing a woman into pregnancy and thus fathering ... himself.
"Oh, a lesson in not changing the past from mister 'I'm-my-own-grandpa!'"
Posted by: anon | August 23, 2009 5:26 PM
Bat shit crazy American. Sadly, there are many like him in America.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 23, 2009 5:34 PM
Don't the more grounded Christians have an ethical obligation to notice when someone is obsessing, and direct them toward something less "worldhistorical"?
...like the nearest mental health care clinic?
Posted by: Awesome McCool | August 23, 2009 5:36 PM
I'm not anything like an expert, but it seems like forcing city employees to either accept an insanely low wage or be fired ought to be illegal. Sure, it's cool for the mayor and council members to only get $1, but what about the bus drivers and shit?
Posted by: Brent H. | August 23, 2009 5:37 PM
Livonia pick up your trash!!! and then Livonia pick up your whackos!!!
Posted by: tsg | August 23, 2009 5:41 PM
@Butterbean #179
You have no idea how much I wish it were just a joke. There's a reason for Poe's Law: they really are that batshit insane, and there's no way the sane can compete with that.
Posted by: Mr T | August 23, 2009 5:48 PM
Wow, I watched that....
I've gotten 2,415 times stupider since then.
Posted by: Hank | August 23, 2009 5:48 PM
This guy has never, EVER, been laid!
Posted by: anti.theist317 | August 23, 2009 5:59 PM
I spit on his god.
I would love to spit on him to. However, such actions might be illegal. I would never do anything which is or could possibly be illegal.
Instead I will dismiss him with all the others who hold religious values as stewped.
Posted by: Hypatia's Daughter | August 23, 2009 6:00 PM
Wonder if that $1 salary for city employees includes councilmen? And librarians? What will happen to him if the Canton library closes because the librarians are all fired?
Will they lower the property taxes or use the excess funds to buy Councilman Moon therapy?
Sadly, he is serious but a not all there. In the good old days, he would have been cranking out pamphlets on a broken down mimeo and selling them for a buck in the back of "True Detective" magazine.
Posted by: Elwood Herring | August 23, 2009 6:02 PM
Definitely no relation of mine. I'm on a mission from Cod.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | August 23, 2009 6:06 PM
So that's what would happen if Sarah Palin and Pat Robertson had a child.
Posted by: Bert Chadick | August 23, 2009 6:06 PM
C'mon Liovonians! Where else are you going to get so much entertainment for such a small investment? Sure Michelle Bachmann produces a constant supply of grade A crazy, but this guy looks like he could easily outdo her.
Posted by: Sultmhoor | August 23, 2009 6:19 PM
Oh, him, again. He's showed up at our offices ranting in the past. The police are quite, quite sick of him.
He doesn't have a chance of winning. Livonia is a bastion of dull, lily-white middle-class America suburbia. Where most of my family lives, and where I work at the statewide GLBT newspaper. ;)
Posted by: wistah | August 23, 2009 6:20 PM
I love the way the Rev. Moon says gee-ZUSSS!!! for Jesus. And the shout, "Let's go, Livonia!" at the end as if he anticipated his listeners were already nodding off. This guy has a touch of teh nutz. Also.
Posted by: DaveH | August 23, 2009 6:28 PM
Hmmm. Slow-growing brain tumour?
Posted by: daveau | August 23, 2009 6:32 PM
Jeff Eyges@1
And indefinite articles...
Booger@178
He's Wallace Shawn's evil brother.
I think I felt some spittle coming through the monitor.
Posted by: rc_moore | August 23, 2009 6:40 PM
"Didn't he hand out the mimeographed pamplets of death to life, where his death photo was when he was a long haired druggie and his life photo was the clean cut bible thumper?"
If true, maybe his problem is bitterness over the hair loss.
Posted by: Eric B | August 23, 2009 6:42 PM
Re: #28
I cannot believe what I just read.....no adoption due to religous / non-religous beliefs...what if they did believe in God, just not the same God as the judge....they were Catholic and the judge was Baptist....what if ....what a bunch of crap.
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | August 23, 2009 6:44 PM
This fellow, this candidate, has been talking to himself for a long time. He has developed a short hand type of speech that to him sounds official and precise. Military. Without unnecessary qualifiers. Biblical in its portent. At least to him.
I have no difficulty tolerating him, knowing that his undisguised foolishness will be sufficient to disqualify him. Not that some won't vote for him. They understand his dialect. No, really, they do.
I'd just let them all prattle on as they've been doing for centuries. They don't really seem to be able to hobble science and humanism very much as those endeavors seem to have done quite well during the same centuries. Sure, without the distraction of supernaturalism some greater degree of progress may have evidenced by now. The problem with that is what it would take to be rid of the supernaturalism. I only see two ways; education and mayhem. Mayhem is not well received these days (except for Old Testament champions) and education takes a lot of effort and a couple of generations to take hold.
So we can look forward to suffering such fools for the foreseeable future. It's not like we aren't practiced in such suffering.
And so it goes, Billy Pilgrim. And so it goes.
Posted by: gruebait | August 23, 2009 6:44 PM
I would love to hear of a guy like that elected to any town council, as sooner or later, the rest of the council would be on trial as accomplices to murder.
Posted by: pra | August 23, 2009 6:46 PM
i think he mistook the election for a Hellsing villain casting
Posted by: Mike in MI | August 23, 2009 6:50 PM
I live close to this city. It's astoundingly conservative (the home base of uber wingnut Thad McCotter). It also claims the distinction of being the "whitest" city in America with a population over 100,000.
Posted by: Aaron Baker | August 23, 2009 6:51 PM
In addition to Godlessness, he seems committed to eliminating the definite and indefinite article.
Posted by: Benjamin Geiger | August 23, 2009 6:54 PM
From the voter's guide:
Posted by: ButchKitties | August 23, 2009 6:57 PM
Ah, Jesus Christ, the ultimate celebrity endorsement. You don't even need to ask his permission to use his name to promote yourself. Unlike claiming to be endorsed by someone like Murray Gell-Mann, who actually exists, Jesus will never publicly disavow your batshit claims or sue you.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | August 23, 2009 7:00 PM
You left the "r" out of his last name, P.Z.
Posted by: Bone Oboe | August 23, 2009 7:02 PM
Laws yes.
Posted by: Aaron Baker | August 23, 2009 7:02 PM
His hostility to articles is still perturbing me. Is he unaware that those Godless Russian communists conquered half of Europe without an indefinite or definite article? Does he think they're good role models?
And don't forget the Romans--history's first persecutors of Christians. Latin doesn't have articles either.
Really, he's muddling his message terribly.
Posted by: Smoggy Batzrubble OM4Jesus | August 23, 2009 7:07 PM
Dear Damned Doomed American Atheists
To see God's beloved Glenn Moon in action makes me very happy, for he is the very reason that so many True Believers(tm) gravitate to your wonderful country. Thanks to the Glenns of your land, Antipodean men of God like Ken Ham, Ray Comfort and me, Smoggy Batzrubble, know where we will be received in Christian love and fellowship.
In our own countries we are often the subject of persecution and derision, all too frequently abused with such foul names as "dipstick, dogknob, turdbrain and Godlicker". But here in God's Own America we know we can be assured of a congregation of like-minded saved souls who will affirm our delusions and stump up with cash.
Praise (the American) Jesus
Smoggy Batzrubble
Senior Pastor of the Church of the Eternal Blowjob
Posted by: The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge | August 23, 2009 7:07 PM
If this is a spoof campaign, it's a poor one. Of course, nothing will ever again rise to the level of the late, great Richard A. C. Greene's 1968 campaign for Washington State Commissioner of Public Lands.
Posted by: Lee Picton | August 23, 2009 7:08 PM
This is not a garden variety loon. His linguistic strangeness is entirely consistent and unself-conscious. I do not know enough about the symptoms of mental illness to hazard a guess, but it is clear that neurologically, some connections are scrambled. Therefore he is to be pitied. I think this particular brand of crazy was unworthy of your attention, PZ. Now, going after Michelle Bachman - that's different!
Posted by: Aaron Baker | August 23, 2009 7:17 PM
He may well deserve pity--but, even having dealt with mental illness in a professional capacity for years . . . heaven help me I still find him kind of funny!
The Youtube commentators have made some sensible observations. I particularly like this one:
"What the hell? Is it only American politicians that openly use their religion to get into a higher seat? Here in England people keep religion to themselves, what is going on in America?"
It's something of a stereotype--the sanity and good sense of the British--but it's always seemed well-grounded in fact to me.
Posted by: moonkitty | August 23, 2009 7:29 PM
@strangegodsbeforeme #181:
"Clearly this man is not fully well. Also, clearly, he is being encouraged by other Christians...."
He is certainly mentally ill. His delusions are quite funny (except when you think about the fact that the content of his particular delusion has been embraced by a fair and politically powerful percentage of Americans.) His situation, however, is quite sad.
He reminds me of a neighbor of mine; I'll call him Sean. Sean is probably not as nuts as Mr. Moon: he has his lucid periods; and then there are those times when he praises the Lord and inveighs against "powers and principalities"--loudly and obsessively--and fears that neighbors are putting evil spells on him via witchcraft, or trying to poison him. Sean evangelizes all the time; he also used to be a street preacher.
Sean is a fundamentalist Baptist. The sad thing is that his religion does feed into his paranoid delusions; they do, after all, believe in demons and witchcraft, and that everyone who doesn't "accept Jesus into their hearts" will go to hell.
To be fair, though, I suspect that if these guys weren't religious, their delusions would simply borrow from a different narrative. They'd still be delusional. And while Sean's religious fellows may be unwittingly encouraging some of his nonsense, they are also kind to him and accept him as a "brother" despite his obvious lack of social skills (or so I gather, reading between the lines of stuff he's said about his church.)
Oddly enough, Sean and I get along quite well. He knows I'm an atheist--we've even had heated arguments about religion. His politics have actually changed in the time I've known him, and I flatter myself that I had something to do with that (he was right-wing when I met him; he went for Obama in a big way last year. Hey, not all crazy people are crazy about EVERYTHING!)
ICAI, I think Sean rationalizes the fact that I'm a good person despite my ungodliness by claiming that I must've learned about Jebus in my youth (I guess I got some sort of holy vaccination, or something.) Whatever. I think it's just that I respect him as a human being, without patronizing or pretending to agree with him.
Sorry to go all personal-anecdote on this. I just wanted to point out that: 1) People like Moon are real people with really awful conditions (which often resist treatment, or whose treatment may entail onerous side-effects--and that's if they're getting any treatment at all. Sean isn't; it's pretty clear that Moon isn't either,) and 2) It can be extremely difficult and annoying to talk to people with psychotic disorders, but sometimes it can be done. Once you scratch the surface of teh crazy, you may find--well, see 1).
Posted by: Stanton | August 23, 2009 7:34 PM
Other than his attempts at gardening, cleaning and communicating with "humanbeings (sic)"?Posted by: RamblinDude
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August 23, 2009 7:35 PM
Probably won't go far in local politics, but as a preacher he'd have a HUGE following. (Doesn't matter how crazy your shit is as long as you say it with conviction and plenty of emotional content.
Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2009 7:37 PM
His pacing and meter are awesome. Needs some backing hipster trumpet and finger-snapping, but otherwise take this show on the poetry slam road, baby!
Posted by: Aaron Baker | August 23, 2009 7:39 PM
Now I'm feeling a bit guilty.
I'll just say that if I thought he'd be harmed somehow by mockery from a heathen Chicago lawyer in one of the comment sections of an atheist blog, I wouldn't have posted. I certainly wouldn't mock him to his face.
And he is pretty funny.
Posted by: cam9976 | August 23, 2009 7:45 PM
Was he using newspeak? Candidate not-plusgood?
Posted by: J greer | August 23, 2009 7:45 PM
What the fuck was that?
Posted by: Fil | August 23, 2009 7:51 PM
I hollered, "Don't look Ethel!" But it was too late. She'd already been Mooned.
Posted by: Rex | August 23, 2009 8:11 PM
sigh ... A learned friend of mine argues, persuasively, that homo spaiens is fatally flawed. He cites the propensity for "othering", the ability to demonize anyone or group who is different from ones own group; the capability to delude ones self into believing something that is completely unsupportable by fact. He cites many other flaws in our species.
The video shows a perfect example of a belief in the unbelievable which other learned people aptly describe as "delusional psychosis". I am convinced that my learned friend is correct. Homo Sapiens is fatally flawed. It is only a matter of time before we self-terminate as a species.
Posted by: Marty in Boise | August 23, 2009 8:12 PM
This reminds me...I'm out of Dr. Bronner's soap.
Posted by: Tassie Devil | August 23, 2009 8:23 PM
I'd say (from experience with people like this being brought to my emergency department), that he has a psychiatric disorder somewhere along the paranoid schizophrenia scale, now possibly with superimposed mania (see 'flight of ideas' and 'word salad'. He quite probably also has an underlying learning disorder/autism spectrum disorder.
The fact that he's forcing himself into the public arena is more than a bit disturbing; I wonder if he's always been like this, or if his illness is escalating? If the latter, then I hope he doesn't own a firearm.
This is where religion gets dangerous in two ways - the unpredictability of psychiatric decompensation in someone who feels authorised by god to hate anyone who disagrees with him, and the community response which is 'he just takes his religion a bit too seriously, that's all.'
I really hope someone brings their concerns formally to the police; I hope more that the police listen, and search his house for firearms, machetes and the like.
Posted by: Joel Jacobson | August 23, 2009 8:26 PM
With the alteration of just a few words, he could sound like a deranged mullah.
I especially liked that he removed his eyeglasses in order to pray. I guess seeing clearly is a hindrance while praying. Also he forgot to say "Amen"--- Doesn't he know the rules?
Posted by: Dude | August 23, 2009 8:43 PM
Don't hurt me if someone said this already, but he is on something. He is like the wackjob Billy Mays for Sweet Baby Jesus Lord Saviour Messiah etc. I don't think it is safe to let the man operate a pooper scooper, let alone be on the city council.
Posted by: Dwatney | August 23, 2009 9:04 PM
I remember seeing Jed in the early 80's. If it were Jed, I'm sure he would have thrown in a bit about fornicators.
Posted by: Rolan le Gargéac | August 23, 2009 9:05 PM
anti.theist317 #143
Fair enough.
Buy a dictionary, look up compassion.
And cowardice.
Oh not only but also :
However, such actions might be
illegalagainst Teh Teachings O' Teh Lord. I would never do anything which is or could possibly beillegalcontrary to My Lords teachings.Fock yoo, AssHole
Posted by: Dave: | August 23, 2009 9:10 PM
I'm not so sure about that interpretation. A bit of googling found a hit for the woman's name as an alumnus of Walled Lake High School who died Jan 28th, 2008, and his rant includes the phrase "2001January30 cemeteryWalledLake "
I don't know who this person was or what his relation was to her, but it seems to me he's claiming to have been present at her grave about 1 year after her death, witnessing her "spiritual resurrection", whatever that means.
Posted by: Rolan le Gargéac | August 23, 2009 9:12 PM
Rolan le Gargéac #237
Aaargh ! Should be #198
Sorry !
Posted by: PixelFish | August 23, 2009 9:31 PM
Oh. Gawd.
The more I read, the worse I feel for him. I think it's clear the poor schmuck needs serious psychiatric help. I read the city council questions and then followed the links he gave, and man, I'm just...um....worried. Religion is obviously not doing this poor guy any favours.
(The obsession with skipping the words "the" and "of" continues in his websites. He even lists BookMormon next to Holy Bible on his page here: http://www.myyearbook.com/moonman1111 )
Posted by: undertowcurrent | August 23, 2009 9:31 PM
I agree that there is something about this guy's rant that reminds me of the cadence of Francis E. Dec's schizophrenic tirades. If you've never heard of Francis E. Dec, here is a taste. These are transcriptions of letters he sent from the 1960's through the 80's read aloud by professional voice actors (for emphasis). Enjoy. http://www.ubu.com/sound/dec.html
Posted by: DLC | August 23, 2009 9:37 PM
Holy handball batman.
This guy's off the wall, across the ceiling and on his way out the window.
Posted by: undertowcurrent | August 23, 2009 9:59 PM
By the way, concerning my post comparing this guy's rant to Francis E. Dec, please be aware that the Francis E. Dec rants contain some very hateful, racist vitriol, none of which I agree with. I was merely comparing the schizophrenic cadence in speech patterns of one batsh*t crazy person to another.
Posted by: Kordo | August 23, 2009 10:34 PM
Oh, I like this guy. We throw around the term "religious nut" too casually these days. Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachmann? Rev. Sun Yung Moon? posers, one and all. This cat is the Pure Shit, crystalline and uncut. Livonia, if you elect this gentleman, I reserve the right to crack on you 'til the end of time. Thank you, Pharyngula, that made my night.
Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2009 10:54 PM
This is what scares me about America. I don't think we would tolerate someone with such religious fervour here in Australia.
Posted by: Pathogen | August 23, 2009 11:30 PM
...you are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace - you will lead them all to their end. End of line.
Dude is channeling the Hybrid from Battlestar Galactica.
Posted by: g | August 23, 2009 11:33 PM
Dude.
All I can say, having had experience in municipal employment is - you pay a city Budget Director a salary of $1 to oversee the city's public finances? You get what you pay for.
what happened to our revenue?
Posted by: Scrabcake | August 24, 2009 12:11 AM
LIVONIA!?! PICK UP YAR TRASH! BY GOD ALMIGHTY IN NAME JESUS CHRIST!
Posted by: AVSN | August 24, 2009 12:12 AM
don't usually comment this far down the line, but just had to say: you folk are LOL fun-e. I know some of u are trying to be serious, ut that just makes it funnier. Thanks for the amusement today.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 24, 2009 12:17 AM
And you think you're not?
Posted by: Paul from NH | August 24, 2009 12:24 AM
I really shouldn't make fun of aphasia, but through the whole video, I kept expecting him to say something like "How are you gentlemen!! All your Livonia are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction."
Posted by: Melody | August 24, 2009 12:35 AM
This does remind me of one time after finishing a placement test to take a statistics course at community college, my dad was standing outside there talking to some guy who was talking non-stop and saying things religious and about babies and Mary and some other biblical figures and I thought at first that he might be a slightly manic religious professor chatting with my dad, but later on as he was talking about more things, and rape as a 2-year-old and stuff, other speech patterns I was well familiar (I have myself had unusual speech sometimes consistent with how schizophrenia and delusional people talk, but not the different thoughts underlying, though sometimes slightly suspicious, but rational enough to overcome suspicious thoughts and irrational contamination fears). So while speech was different (the person I met didn't omit prepositions), the other similarities do strike me, and given other background details seems something is going on. Hopefully, he will have an easier time getting along in the community on his own, without disrupting neighbors, as he ironically intended to run on for his platform, but I suspect it would take some major intervention.
Posted by: Jenny [ lastsundown ] | August 24, 2009 1:22 AM
Thanks for featuring my video! :D This man is gettin' FAMOUS!
Posted by: Jim B | August 24, 2009 2:21 AM
Like dissolves like. Therefore, his woo needs to be countered by other powerful woo. I believe he needs to be forced to undergo a colonic irrigation to flush out at least 28 pounds of latent toxins which have been plugging up his energy.
Listening to his much remarked upon phraseology, I'd bet 10:1 he is or grew up Catholic. It sounds very familiar my ears after having spent years getting unsuccessfully indoctrinated. Really, looking back, it was really an unintended vaccination against religion.
Posted by: Mo | August 24, 2009 3:07 AM
He needs to add the word "the" to his vocabulary.
Posted by: Snoof | August 24, 2009 3:27 AM
You know, in the old days, schizophrenics used to get electroshock.
Now they get webcams.
Posted by: mark*21 | August 24, 2009 5:44 AM
He talked faster than I was expecting. He ruined my special moment I was having with my Pinot Gris.
Posted by: OurSally | August 24, 2009 6:34 AM
I don't believe it.
This guy is so over the top he is the super-Poe. (That must actually be the anti-Poe, when the real thing is funnier than the parody.)
I suspect it is really John Cleese and the rest of the Monty Python team, trying to get the cash together for his 12 million pound divorce settlement.
Posted by: Thommo | August 24, 2009 6:48 AM
This dood is insane.
Did anyone else notice that he didn't once use the word "the"?
Nearly three minutes of ranting, and he just never used "the". There were many opportunities to use "the" but he never did..
Why does his god hate "the"?
Posted by: Sgt Skepper | August 24, 2009 7:23 AM
HAAAA!!! I was thinking 'this isn't that funny' until he shouted out "LIVONIA! PICK UP YOUR TRASH!" Priceless.
Posted by: Petzl
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August 24, 2009 7:24 AM
"LET'S GO, LIVONIA!"
Someone mentioned this possibility: there is
NO way this guy is a Poe-- he has crossed the line.
This guy is the real deal.
Posted by: Richard Smith | August 24, 2009 8:39 AM
"Who is the victim! IS THE! Use your articles!"
Posted by: Mark | August 24, 2009 10:06 AM
It nearly sounded like he was using magical incantations! He's only one step away from being a wizard, if you ask me.
Oh, and VOTE FOR MOON. You people NEED him. I guarantee you will love that man in office. Moon/Beck 2012, or maybe Palin/Jindal 2012. I can't decide.
Posted by: Hockey Bob | August 24, 2009 10:49 AM
Okay, I just watched this video, and noticed how some people are ripping this guy for his multiple syllable pronunciation of god; I, too, have been guilty of this; mine usually occurs after I've missed an easy putt, the Vikings lose a game, or I stub my toe... it sounds like this; jesusfuckinggoddamnedchrist... ;-)
Also, I've searched the comments to #263, as I post this, and am terribly disappointed to see that no one has given this guy his true last name! Of course, he should now be known as...
...wait for it...
-=[Glenn Moonbat]=-
;-)
Posted by: benjlaw | August 24, 2009 11:51 AM
I think you're all missing the point. This is probably one of the best slam poetry pieces I've seen in a while. Quick! Somebody back this guy up with some bongos!
Posted by: Bo Dybeck | August 24, 2009 12:11 PM
Is this for real? Does he really think he will be elected after that!?
Posted by: Ewoo | August 24, 2009 12:48 PM
Well, I live right next to it and don't expect much from "Whitest city in America" http://arborupdate.com/article/1078/white-white-white-livonia
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | August 24, 2009 1:33 PM
Thommo @ # 259: ... he didn't once use the word "the"? ... Why does his god hate "the"?
He and his god are atheists!
Posted by: JefFlyingV | August 24, 2009 1:42 PM
Moon is demonstrating that he has a personal relationship with God. He knows Jesus and God on a full name basis.
Posted by: MoxieHart | August 24, 2009 2:09 PM
When did the Zodiac Killer get a webcam?
Posted by: Pimientita | August 24, 2009 2:32 PM
@266 Does he really think he will be elected after that!?
Sadly, yes.
Posted by: Longstreet63 | August 24, 2009 5:34 PM
See? This is why atheists are hated--everyone picking on the guy simply because he's a Christian!
Er...and a prophet of God*. And probably a bit OCD, if the neatness fetish is anything like his speech patterns. (I'm envisioning him 'cleaning his workspace' in an intensive manner calculated to get librarians to try and stop him.)
So what if he's semi-coherent at best? That's just proof that the spirit of G-d* is in him. You probably just can't make out the tongue of fire on his head in the video.
Clearly, the criticism of Brother Moon is all about his religion.
*feel free to add the innumerable names and titles appropriate. Do not pause for breath.
Posted by: Randall | August 24, 2009 6:28 PM
I noticed a couple of comments describing the "telegraphic" style of his speech. It appears in his writing too, which makes me think it is deliberate. I think he's trying (and failing) to create an illusion that he is delivering messages directly from god. Of course, one has to wonder why he thinks god would need to communicate that way - even the Bible contains grammatically correct sentences. Maybe he took his cue from Sarah Palin and thought, "Hey, I bet I can make even less sense than that."
Posted by: Kurt Elliott | August 24, 2009 7:24 PM
How does he know that all of those epitaphs are just the right number and that they are enough to convey the right amount of exultation? Seems to me he could actually be pissing JC and his pops off!
Posted by: antaresrichard | August 24, 2009 7:28 PM
Could Moon be an off branch of The Knights Who Say 'Nee' as well? He also never once uttered the word "it".
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | August 24, 2009 9:07 PM
If there were an award for the kind of short, sharp snark that is directed at people who totally succumb to and develop a sense of having some greater degree of solidity than the average person by simply being on a screen somewhere on TeeVee or the InnerTubes, Snoof would be its proud recipient. At 256 he said, memorably,
Nice one.
*now if you can just shorten that to web-length, Snoof. you sound too much like Henny Youngman ;-> *
Posted by: Crasty | August 24, 2009 11:58 PM
I added your blog to bookmarks. And i'll read your articles more often!
Posted by: Strider | August 25, 2009 8:15 AM
What a pinched, hateful little goblin he is!
Posted by: Dave | August 25, 2009 3:21 PM
Jesus Christ is her to save your unborn child but he implores you to kill all those evil queers, unruly teens, and those that work on the "sabbath" Go JC, go JC, go.
Posted by: Paul Nerves | August 25, 2009 5:51 PM
This sounds like something you'd find as a backing track on a Meat Beat Manifesto song.
Posted by: GenesisNemesis | August 26, 2009 11:47 PM
He'd be a good preacher.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | August 27, 2009 12:02 AM
Glenn Moon,
Wait, I've seen this before....
Posted by: Ema | September 18, 2009 6:33 PM
"Gaaad"
If I hear that one more time I think I'm going to head butt the screen
Posted by: Ema | September 18, 2009 6:35 PM
"Gaaad"
If I hear that one more time I think I'm going to head butt the screen!
And this, "Heavenly Father Almighty God in name God Son Jesus Christ Lord Savior Messiah" I'm pretty sure this is OCD.
Posted by: Frink | September 18, 2009 11:24 PM
Holy fucking shit!
Posted by: Dan | September 19, 2009 2:02 AM
Funny how his name no longer appears on the candidate list. http://www.livonia.org/candidates.asp
Posted by: AlanWCan | September 19, 2009 6:20 AM
Holy crap, that is one crazy motherfucker.
errr...I mean that one crazy motherfucker heavenlyfatheralmightygod in nameyoursonjesuschristlordsaviormessiah.
I give him one full time cube.
Posted by: mikecbraun | September 19, 2009 1:00 PM
I think he stole that from Kim Jong Il. The lack of "the" is a dead give-away!