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Category: Creationism
Posted on: August 7, 2009 6:03 PM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: Albatrossity | August 7, 2009 6:07 PM
Hooray!
Posted by: Blake Stacey | August 7, 2009 6:07 PM
Do we want this to be the dominant image of atheism???
Posted by: broxster | August 7, 2009 6:08 PM
Awesome! Now I wish I had taken the time to be there too!
Posted by: Doc Bill | August 7, 2009 6:08 PM
Nice! Very nice!
You clean up well, PZ.
Is that a Croc-a-duck tie? Priceless.
Posted by: Sastra | August 7, 2009 6:08 PM
Does it come as a Christmas card?
Posted by: uknesvuinng | August 7, 2009 6:09 PM
PHOTOSHOPPED! Ok, that joke is out of my system.
Colonel Myers leads the charge on the creationist ranks.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:11 PM
It is so good to see that the big old atheist meanie is just a big old kid.
I am suffering from a giggling fit.
Posted by: Terry
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August 7, 2009 6:13 PM
Oh my fake god, that's priceless ...
Posted by: XD | August 7, 2009 6:14 PM
Man, that's beautiful!
Posted by: ZenMonkey | August 7, 2009 6:15 PM
It's the tip of the hat that really makes the pic.
Posted by: kyle | August 7, 2009 6:15 PM
that it just fucking awesome.
Posted by: BMcP | August 7, 2009 6:15 PM
I come home from work, turn on the web browser, click my RSS feed to this site and this is what I get? It must be the weekend!
Posted by: Maria | August 7, 2009 6:16 PM
You are such a good sport!
Looks like it was a lot of fun. The #CreoZerg tweets were wonderful reading today.
Posted by: Eric | August 7, 2009 6:16 PM
Nice mount, Colonel Myers, SUH!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 6:16 PM
Awesome
and here's the "mounting" video
Posted by: Sili | August 7, 2009 6:17 PM
Who needs details?
Picture. Kilowords. Yaddah yaddah.
Those are horrible shoes to wear a suit. I hope they're comfortable.
It really was very kind of the piglet rapist to make sure the dino was back in time for your visit.
Posted by: Somnolent Aphid | August 7, 2009 6:17 PM
Hey, last we saw that little triceratops was on the truck headed out of town for "repairs", where'd you get it? And Harumph... we've been waiting ALL DAY for some juicy posts. Way to piss of the listening audience. Very little on twitter. What? No cell phone service in the inner sanctum? Give us the full report PZ! Or did you finally see the light?
Posted by: AZSkeptic | August 7, 2009 6:17 PM
Get along lil doggie...
Did you stay on for the full 8 seconds?
Posted by: Ygern | August 7, 2009 6:18 PM
That is so cool in a hundred different ways.
Posted by: Holydust | August 7, 2009 6:18 PM
I know, I didn't even get to go and this was the best/most frustrating day ever.
Reading everything on #CreoZerg and going thru the "Museum's" exhibits on old Flickr collections re-ignited my feeling of loneliness on Facebook, where most people I know are still stringent believers in the Sky Daddy. But following #CreoZerg got me angry and fired up enough to essentially make a "you know what, I'm tired of hiding" post, which resulted in some tears for me and an outpouring of support from more freethinking friends than I knew I had there.
So thanks, guys. You were awesome, and I feel better.
Posted by: Architeuthis | August 7, 2009 6:19 PM
Absolutely fantastic... yippie kai yay!
Posted by: Qwerty | August 7, 2009 6:20 PM
Stegosaurus (pronounced stag-oh-sore-ass): Ohhh, my aching back!
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 6:24 PM
Yee-hawww!! Ride 'em cowboy!
When I was a kid in Gondwanaland, we used to have the Running of the Triceratops every summer. Every year, somebody got gored or trampled or beaked. But if you catch tricers young and train 'em to saddle, they're actually quite gentle.
PZ's wearing almost exactly the traditional outfit of the Gondwanaland Rangers -- Stetson hat, lug-soled hiking books, and pinstripe suit with crocoduck tie.
Posted by: PlaydoPlato | August 7, 2009 6:26 PM
Notice how perfectly PZ fits on the back of that Triceratops? Why it's almost as if they were designed for each other -- much like a banana is designed to fit the human hand.
What more proof do you doGless hordes need?
Posted by: Cappy | August 7, 2009 6:29 PM
Ride 'em, cowboy!
Wish I coulda been there to see it.
Posted by: whatdayathink | August 7, 2009 6:30 PM
This should be the LOGO for all Atheists. I gotta get this on my blog. LOL!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sunny Ng | August 7, 2009 6:32 PM
Terrific!
Posted by: defiantskeptic
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August 7, 2009 6:32 PM
Hilarious. Can't stop laughing.
Posted by: Nentuaby
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August 7, 2009 6:33 PM
Well I have a new desktop. And am giggling madly. Thanks for making my afternoon, P-Zed!
Posted by: Jim | August 7, 2009 6:33 PM
#2 - Are you kidding? He's one flamethrower away from being a panel from a Dr. McNinja strip.
Posted by: lose_the_woo | August 7, 2009 6:33 PM
Maybe it's cause I'm hungry, but triceratops tri-tip, brontosaurus burger, and raptor dogs just crossed my mind.
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 6:35 PM
Rev. BigDumbChimp:
I was waiting in that spot for about 15 minutes, just so I could get a reaction shot of PZ as he saw the dino. The riding of the dino was icing on the cake.
I was upset about giving the creotards money, even with my donation to the SSA, but seeing Prof. Myers high on the saddle was more than worth the price of admission.
Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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August 7, 2009 6:38 PM
/me deletes perverted "Land Before Time" jokes
That shirt is a lovely shade of blue.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 6:39 PM
Running shoes with a pin-stripe suit? Is that the sort of atheist fashion statement you want the creationists to see? That's taking militant atheism to the limit.
Posted by: Qwerty | August 7, 2009 6:40 PM
It's a triceratops! Ohhh... major boo boo on my part. I need to go back to kindergarden.
Posted by: Sili | August 7, 2009 6:40 PM
Congrats, Holydust.
I'm glad coming out turned into a pleasant experience.
Posted by: Newfie | August 7, 2009 6:40 PM
Biologist Up!
Posted by: Holbach | August 7, 2009 6:41 PM
Oh crap, PZ has gone to the other side! No wait, that dinosaur is dead! Whew, the creation museum only gave him a dummy. They save the real ones for the religious retards to enforce the theory.
Posted by: Forbidden Snowflake | August 7, 2009 6:42 PM
Is that a squid under your arm, Dr. Myers? It goes well with the crocoduck tie.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 6:43 PM
You're banned from the entire site.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 6:45 PM
Very funny.
I trust my ban doesn't apply to this thread.
damn, but you ARE stupid, Pete.
you were tossed in the dungeon. It's up to PZ to decide whether or not you should have posting privileges again, not which thread you post in, or even what you post.
Instead of just trying posting again, I would rather suggest you send PZ a personal email requesting privileges BEFORE you post.
that would be the polite and reasonable thing to do.
It would, in fact, be very unlike you, but you could always prove us wrong.
Posted by: Rey Fox | August 7, 2009 6:45 PM
THE DETAILS ARE UNIMPORTANT!!
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:46 PM
Careful 'Tis Himself. The Rookie just might interpret that as a welcome.
Posted by: Tressa | August 7, 2009 6:46 PM
Eat your heart out John Wayne!
Posted by: Mena | August 7, 2009 6:47 PM
Ok, just for that I'm going to share a link to my site. I have had the main picture up there for the past 12 or so years. Yes, I need to update. I'm doing that now but haven't finished all of the site and they are on my hard drive.
http://user.mc.net/~mena/
Posted by: Aphrodine | August 7, 2009 6:48 PM
Holy shit. That has to be the single greatest photo ever taken. PROOF THAT MAN AND DINOSAURS CO-EXIST.
Posted by: Nathan | August 7, 2009 6:48 PM
Glad to hear it, Holydust. I really hope you have a good experience. There are a lot of people who see the world you do.
Posted by: Gregory Greenwood | August 7, 2009 6:48 PM
Colonel Dr. PZ Sah! Are we ready for the charge of the atheist brigade? I thought you would be riding Cthulhu into battle on this one?
It matters not, the Zerg Swarm is behind you all the way, glorious leader!
Croco-duck ties to the fore . . . CHARGE!!
Posted by: Sabazinus | August 7, 2009 6:49 PM
*JEALOUS*
That looks awesome. Looking at the pictures...it's such a shame, many of the model dinosaurs they have are quite good. Too bad they ended up in the Creation museum.
Posted by: Mena | August 7, 2009 6:49 PM
Oh, if anyone is wondering where that picture was taken, Dinosaur Provincial Park in Alberta, Canada.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 6:51 PM
Listen up, you little piece of shit, what part of YOU ARE BANNED do you have trouble understanding? You've been booted from this site. Kicked off. Confined to the outer darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth. You are an ex-poster whose presence is not wanted or desired.
Rooke, do me a great favor. Fuck off and die!
Posted by: Acronym Jim | August 7, 2009 6:51 PM
Holy dog and pony show, Batman! Are they using a tallit as a saddle blanket?
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 6:51 PM
I prefer communication from the organ grinder , not the monkey
Here's the organ grinder's own words, which you seem to have ignored:
banned for:
Insipidity
Stupidity
It's all there on your dungeon placard, Rookster.
Again, if you were a rational sort of fellow, you might have considered writing to PZ to ask for posting privileges, rather than just making the wrongheaded assumption you were just welcome to post any time you felt like it.
seriously, it's like if I kicked you out of my house, but you felt it would be OK to come back any time you like, so long as I didn't expressly tell you not to over and over again.
sad.
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | August 7, 2009 6:51 PM
I prefer communication from the organ grinder , not the monkey
I have to say, that's a pretty good snappy comeback.
Posted by: Travis | August 7, 2009 6:51 PM
Damn, I thought I was the only one who thought that worked fairly well as a new desktop image.
Posted by: fort | August 7, 2009 6:52 PM
I fell off my chair laughing.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:52 PM
Should we gather up photos of atheists sitting on dinosaurs and create a thread?
This could overload on cute.
Posted by: Dude | August 7, 2009 6:54 PM
Petey, honey. You know that a ban is a ban, and that this is a pretend democracy run by a lazy tyrant (PZ said so himself). Calling us monkeys is a very good way to get made fun of in every possible way, and it is just plain condescending. Don't pretend you're any better than us, or even equal. Go irritate people on omegle.com or something.
On the other side, if you are a different troll than the origianal (intended) Pete, good job. You are being successful.
Posted by: Dude | August 7, 2009 6:56 PM
Alright, who divided by zero?
Posted by: Rob | August 7, 2009 6:56 PM
Proof of intelligent design and the young earth. Even a godless atheist can't resist the call of a dinosaur with a saddle. Triceratops was perfectly designed for your ass.
Posted by: Nominal Egg | August 7, 2009 6:57 PM
Who's that guy trying to fondle PZ's ass by "assisting" the mount-up in BDC's video?
Way to horn in on the moment. Idiot.
Posted by: Dude | August 7, 2009 6:58 PM
#61 reply: epic lulz.
Posted by: Magnetic Lobster | August 7, 2009 6:58 PM
This photograph is not just evidence that dinosaurs and humans coexisted, but also that dinosaurs coexisted with electrical outlets.
Posted by: Joffan | August 7, 2009 6:59 PM
Try Sara! Tops!
What's sitting on here nose there? Is it a toy crocoduck?
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 6:59 PM
Congrats Holydust, welcome to the unholy horde.
Sili - I gawked at the shoes PZ is wearing with the suit too. But then Dawkins wears those shirts in public places. *grin*
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 6:59 PM
For all the non-tweeters out there, a video of the award ceremony. Not sure about why the quality went in the crapper, but fun regardless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuJAyesgS3U
Posted by: Vito T | August 7, 2009 7:02 PM
I'm starting a fund to get PZ some alligator shoes to go with his pimp-suit and fish-tie.
Posted by: The Skeptic Wept | August 7, 2009 7:04 PM
They're so cute when they're little!
Uh, triceratops, not PZ.
Definite proof that humans and fiberglas dinosaurs coexisted.
Posted by: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dorward
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August 7, 2009 7:05 PM
It works for Time Lords.
Posted by: Blondin | August 7, 2009 7:05 PM
Finally maybe I can get an answer to a question that's been bugging me for almost 50 years:
How do you mount a triceratops?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 7:05 PM
Just so it is clear, I did not film that. That is someone else's video.
Posted by: Janus | August 7, 2009 7:07 PM
"Do we want this to be the dominant image of atheism???"
Hell yeah!
Posted by: Badwolf | August 7, 2009 7:11 PM
I love it! You're even dressed like a poor man's Doctor Who! Next time wear converse. :0
Posted by: minus | August 7, 2009 7:11 PM
Sure, you can laugh now. But wait til PETA hears about this.
Posted by: SciencePundit
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August 7, 2009 7:14 PM
WIN!!!!!
Posted by: lose_the_woo | August 7, 2009 7:15 PM
Perhaps PZ felt that a situation could arise where the utility of running shoes would be needed. Hmmmm....
Couldn't execute on those plans for tomfoolery PZ?
Posted by: tubbolard | August 7, 2009 7:15 PM
OT but funny
http://seattle.craigslist.org/forums/?forumID=1257
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 7:16 PM
Nominal Egg, I shot those videos. I'm glad people are enjoying them!
One more, of the scary dino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XPYIEzRbYk
Pictures coming soon, and an epic poem, in limerick form no less. Stay tuned...
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 7:17 PM
That background will be so easy to photoshop...
Posted by: Claire | August 7, 2009 7:18 PM
After working from 8:30 am to 6:00 pm in the lab, I come home and find this. Thanks for making my day!!!
Posted by: Jay | August 7, 2009 7:19 PM
New desktop!
Posted by: lose_the_woo | August 7, 2009 7:20 PM
Thanx for the vids Rich @ #79.
Gotta love the long spindly fingers and dagger claws of that raptor. Perfect for picking berries.
Posted by: Blondin | August 7, 2009 7:20 PM
Re: #70
I meant in the 'taxidermist' sense!
Stop that!
Posted by: DobyGS | August 7, 2009 7:20 PM
Did any think to invite Professor Steve Steve for a return visit? Does the dinosaur go up and down when you put a quarter in its mouth?
Posted by: Newfie | August 7, 2009 7:21 PM
hahaha.... PZ got kinda "Screeched in"! awesome!!
Come on up here, PZ b'y... we'll have you kissin' the cod, right quick.
Posted by: windy | August 7, 2009 7:24 PM
Alternate caption contest!
Myers: It's Time to Step Down and Let Others Ride the Dinosaur
Posted by: Chris P | August 7, 2009 7:24 PM
All this of course versus Pastor Tom Estes who runs up to PZ, says "Hi" or whatever and then runs off apparently feeling miserable. Doesn't even start a conversation ".. because I would disagree with everything he said".
The only two people who support him on his blog have stated that their minds are closed as well. They don't want to read "You Inner Fish" or anything else.
Sad
Posted by: R. Schauer | August 7, 2009 7:24 PM
Holy shit, seeing you on top of that triceratops has nearly turned me into a true believer, PZ! FSM!
(**reaching hastely for a Dawkins book and some comforting explaination**)
Posted by: theareohbee | August 7, 2009 7:24 PM
Ahh, just like back in the day...
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 7:26 PM
If the organ grinder still had me banned his killfile would knock out these posts as my ID , IP and email are as before.
the killfile was wiped during the last sciblog upgrade. He has to do it manually now, and perhaps you might have noticed...
HE'S NOT FUCKING HERE?
Moreover, this still doesn't change the fact that you made the assumption you had posting privileges, and it's obvious you didn't even bother to ask him.
You're one pathetic sack of shit, you know that Pete?
Posted by: SC, OM | August 7, 2009 7:28 PM
I'll admit it - I watched it three times. Have no idea how accurate it is. Maybe some of the kids visiting will get excited and be led to start reading about dinosaurs, and they'll look outside the creationist literature, and they'll start to learn science, and they'll realize how stupid their religious teachings have been, and...
Posted by: Platypus | August 7, 2009 7:29 PM
I hope you were bellowing out some AC/DC classics as you rode that bad boy.
"WE ONNA HIIIIII-WAY TO HELL!"
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 7:29 PM
Were Tom and Toms Crew there? Jeez, inquiring minds have been waiting all day.
Posted by: JThompson | August 7, 2009 7:30 PM
@Blondin:
You put something it really likes down in front of it, then when it's distracted you lift the tail...Or is that not what you meant?Even if we had nothing else on the creationists, we all seem to have really cool hats.
Posted by: BobH | August 7, 2009 7:32 PM
I can die now, PZ. Thanks. So, what do I search for on cafepress to get the T-Shirt?
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 7:34 PM
I've got to know, did Pastor T.Estes extend the hand of friendship to PZ? If so, did it play out like that classic Groucho Marx bit from Duck Soup?
Posted by: CortxVortx | August 7, 2009 7:37 PM
Re: #34
Works for Dr. Who.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 7:39 PM
Whoops, not that forevermore classic bit, this classic bit.
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | August 7, 2009 7:39 PM
Hey, lookit! It's Alley Oop!
". . . look at that caveman go. He's ridin' a dinasaur.
Alley Oop oop, oop, oop oop."
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 7:40 PM
I know someone here has to read greek. Can you translate this for me?
It was apparently written by Paul...at least that's what the creation "museum" told me.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 7:41 PM
Ken, I want to know if Tom Estes extended a laurel and hardy handshake to our new sher...
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 7:42 PM
Did all the womenfolk tremble and the menfolk glare as the atheist horde strode through their hallowed museum? Did they gasp as PZ dared to mount their prized proof of the simultaneous existence of humans and dinosaurs? Lord have mercy! The godless have defiled Ken Ham's magnificent paean to the Almighty Creator of all things!
Oh, the humanity!!
Really, did anybody blow snot while reading the placards?
Posted by: waldteufel | August 7, 2009 7:42 PM
Tell you what, Pete, since you are going to pray to your sky fairy, I'll pray to the little goldfish in my pond.
Both cases will be equally effective.
Yes, Pete, you are a very polite and respectful bag of shit.
An amazingly stupid one.
Ichthyic has you pegged about right.
Posted by: Inky | August 7, 2009 7:43 PM
Nothing screams "SCIENCE PROFESSOR!" more than this pic of some bearded dude in a suit, with sneakers, on top of a dinosaur.
That is one awesome pic.
Posted by: Hank | August 7, 2009 7:44 PM
I've uploaded some pics from the event on my blog- www.ruffingtonpost.com - I'll upload my vid of PZ getting on the triceratops tonight! It was awesome- Please check it out and enjoy!
Posted by: George | August 7, 2009 7:44 PM
Great
Posted by: Renee | August 7, 2009 7:45 PM
What kind of sorry-ass "saddle" is that? God damn, they couldn't spring for a cheap synthetic western saddle? Hey, Ham boy, they're maybe $50 on the intarwebz. At least look like you're trying.
Anyhoo, looks like a fun time was had by all. Even the dino looks happy.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 7:47 PM
I give you, Dr. StrangeSquid
yes it's very rushed and poorly done photoshop
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 7:49 PM
Reminds me of a cringeworthy Blazing Saddles scene:
"HE SAID... THE SHERIFF IS (mumbled)"
"THE SHERIFF IS A THEIST"?
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 7:49 PM
I notice Rookster's posts have been plonked.
"Having re-RE-disposed of the monster, exit our hero, stage right..."
props to anyone who knows the reference.
Posted by: JeffreyD | August 7, 2009 7:53 PM
Re #111 Posted by: Ichthyic
"Having re-RE-disposed of the monster, exit our hero, stage right..."
props to anyone who knows the reference.
Bugs Bunny, in the episode with Dracula, I think.
Ciao y'all
Posted by: WickedWiener | August 7, 2009 7:53 PM
Hi PZ,
love your blog& your dedication for the good cause but please:
Help scientists learn how to dress properly and how to avoid the stereotype of the poorly-dressed geek/nerd by setting a good example.
Take a look at this thread, a bunch of materialistic fashion whores with to much time&money on their hands, but there's no better way of getting a basic sense for colours/fits/suits than that.
http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=2619&page=3641
Keep up your good work!
Cheers&Greatings from Europe
WW
Posted by: Ragutis | August 7, 2009 7:53 PM
Ichthy headdesks in 3...2...
Posted by: Kalyn | August 7, 2009 7:53 PM
Wow. Now I'm a hundred times more upset that I didn't go to the SSA conference...but hey! I got a new desktop out of it!
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 7:54 PM
OK Knitters, something has to be done, we can't allow the new Colonel to be out in public in plain ol' boring black socks!
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 7:54 PM
#108:
I prayed for your manners,
good evidence of the ineffectual nature of intercessionary prayer, eh?
btw, you might have noticed your previous posts were plonked.
tells you nothing though, right?
denial much, Rookster?
Posted by: The MadPanda | August 7, 2009 7:55 PM
(applauds Ichthyic's use of the Wascally Wabbit's wit and wisdom!)
Well said, well said! Alas, we have an ultramaroon in the thread and I'm fresh out of Troll-B-Gon, courtesy of a Chaotic Stupid Kender.
(Long story, don't ask.)
Glad to hear a lovely time was had by the Zergs on this delightful summer day. Waiting to hear the gory, bloody, icky, stomach-churning details!
The MadPanda, FCD
Posted by: bungoton | August 7, 2009 7:56 PM
I can't complain about the Colonel's shoes. He wears exactly the same kind I do when I'm walking.
It just goes to show what great taste he has in footwear.
Posted by: NewEnglandBob | August 7, 2009 7:56 PM
If your mother saw this she would say:
Paul, couldn't you at least smile a little for the picture?
Posted by: lose_the_woo | August 7, 2009 7:58 PM
Fuck you and your prayers you presumptuous, preachy, thick headed, waste of skin.
Deities. Are. Not. Real.
Doesn't seem like your prayers worked. What a surprise.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 7:58 PM
It sounded familiar, Ichthyic, but I did have to check. Gossamer demands an apology.
"I think monsters are so fascinating, don't you?"
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 7:58 PM
Bugs Bunny, in the episode with Dracula, I think.
close enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair-Raising_Hare
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 8:01 PM
Wicked Wiener - get stuffed.
Posted by: windy | August 7, 2009 8:02 PM
"What kind of sorry-ass "saddle" is that?"
As it is written in Idiot America:
Posted by: TheVaultDweller | August 7, 2009 8:03 PM
Holy crap, it's awesome to see the picture I took with his camera make it onto the site. This is the happiest moment I've had in a long, long time.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:05 PM
BTW, when Chris Matthews got a bit red in the hair dye department, a competition for a new nickname was called for by Atrios, since Tweety would no longer do. Gossamer won.
Janine, for all his multitudinous faults, I never noticed a racist vibe from Pastor T.Estes to match heddle's, who is unashamed to post on these threads in blackface, and I quote, "Sho nuff!"
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 8:05 PM
"I think monsters are so fascinating, don't you?"
"Now let's dip our patties in the water!"
Posted by: Ray Moscow | August 7, 2009 8:05 PM
It looks like you guys had a great time. I'm jealous.
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 8:06 PM
Nah, you should start a fund to get him a natty trenchcoat to go with the blue pinstripe and the hiking boots.
Posted by: uknesvuinng | August 7, 2009 8:06 PM
@112
Half right. It was Bugs Bunny, but the cartoon had the mad scientist guy and the red furry monster. He was lured there by a wind up female rabbit that waltzed past during the line at the end, interrupting its delivery.
Now if I could just remember the name of that particular cartoon...
Posted by: tsg | August 7, 2009 8:08 PM
PZ so needs to be raising a sword and yelling "YOUR CONCERN IS NOTED!!!"
Posted by: Chris P | August 7, 2009 8:08 PM
Is this the AOL main page where several items relate to what celebrities do or don't wear.
Who cares what people wear? Is this an obsession with wearing black shoes not being worn with blue jeans.
Frankly why do we care what if anything people wear. We started out not wearing ANYTHING - something that even Ken Ham's joint recognises.
It doesn't matter folks - if this was Africa a loin cloth and no shoes would work.
Chris P
Posted by: Neandergal | August 7, 2009 8:09 PM
Love it! You look so perfect up there! The Dino and you were obviously "made" for each other!!
Posted by: uknesvuinng | August 7, 2009 8:09 PM
Wow, a lot of posts got made in the time it took me to read up and post mine. At least I know the name of that cartoon now.
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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August 7, 2009 8:09 PM
Huzzah!
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 8:10 PM
Now if I could just remember the name of that particular cartoon...
it was "Hair-raising hare"
link at #124
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 8:10 PM
My favorite from the "museum":
http://twitpic.com/d38ui
Soooo full of fail.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 8:10 PM
Don't. You. Dare.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 8:11 PM
Sorry Ken. I was not trying to imply that Tom Estes is a racist. I like to have evidence before I toss those kinds of charges. I should have clipped off the sheriff bit.
Besides, I already know what he thinks of people like me.
Posted by: Hitek | August 7, 2009 8:12 PM
If that were put on a t-shirt, I would buy it.
What better way to announce your godlessness than through a squid-wielding colonel in a pinstripe suit riding a Triceratops?
Posted by: tsg | August 7, 2009 8:13 PM
"Look, out there, in the audience...."
"People! AAAUUUUUUUUUGGHHH!!!!!!"
Posted by: Kel, OM | August 7, 2009 8:21 PM
That is twelve shades of awesome!
Posted by: SC (Salty Current), OM | August 7, 2009 8:22 PM
And, to make it a fair fight,
http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/PoisPlant/Tox-COM.htm
Posted by: Olowkow | August 7, 2009 8:26 PM
A bucking bronTo.
Posted by: Steve M. | August 7, 2009 8:28 PM
Hey PZ,
How many quarters did you spend on that ride and how many seconds could you stay on it before you were bucked off??
Posted by: ChrisKG | August 7, 2009 8:28 PM
Is there a side-saddle version for the ladies?
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:29 PM
Soooo full of fail.
Why did Gob design his creations to be so mean to plants?
"Millions of months passed. Then, twenty eight days later, The Moon appeared." (thanks, Firesign Theatre and Jonathan Coulter)
Posted by: holomorph | August 7, 2009 8:29 PM
Rich Stage @100:
The Greek is 2 Timothy 3:15-17, which is rendered as follows in the KJV:
"[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
(I have a "side-by-side" KJV/Greek New Testament lying around, a relic from my religious days...)
Posted by: extatyzoma | August 7, 2009 8:30 PM
that is a mechanical bull with its skin replaced right?
well done PZ, no hands.
(ah, #146 beat me to it!)
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | August 7, 2009 8:31 PM
Looks like a Flintstones/Urban Cowboy/Expelled! mashup.
Posted by: Paguroidea | August 7, 2009 8:32 PM
Hilarious photo! I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee because I'm sure my computer would be be all wet now!
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 8:32 PM
Rick Stage @ 100: Apparently it's the end II Timothy, chapter 3; verses 15–17. Here's a parallel Greek/English translation version for you to see for yourself.
Note the majority of modern scholars think this epistle was not written by Saul/Paul of Tarsus, but is one of the "pseudepigraphic" letters. As for the interpretation of the passage, basically it's saying, "the Bible is inerrant, you were brainwashed to believe it you were a child, so don't bother reading anything else, nothing else is necessary." Great message for the temple of unthinking.
Rookles @ 119: Be a good chap and FUCK OFF, will you?
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 8:34 PM
Thanks for that, Holomorph.
ChrisKG:
Seek and ye shall find:
http://twitpic.com/d3d5c
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 8:36 PM
Did anyone get photos of the "godless clothing" that the security people were so afraid would be offensive?
Posted by: LinzeeBinzee | August 7, 2009 8:37 PM
I've been trying to find this out on Twitter but haven't gotten an answer...
Does anyone know what the etiquette is of stealing other peoples' pictures from CreoZerg? I want to use someone's PZ on dinosaur picture but don't want to piss anyone off...
Posted by: apple scrapple | August 7, 2009 8:37 PM
Quite the fashion statement. No not you but the piece of plastic you are riding on.
Posted by: JarrodB | August 7, 2009 8:37 PM
Oh, PZ. This is my new background.
Posted by: Ema | August 7, 2009 8:38 PM
Absolutely amazing.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:38 PM
ChrisKG: Is there a side-saddle version for the ladies?
But of course. This spectacular dino-rider is the artist who created the cephalopod modeled by our host.
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 8:39 PM
LinzeeBinzee, just ask them. It's really that simple, unless you plan on making money off it. If not, ask and you will probably get permission.
Posted by: a lurker | August 7, 2009 8:39 PM
What no scantily-clothed former Alaska governor riding the dino? What is this world coming to. :-)
So everything went well I hope.
On a more serious note: Ken Ham has mentioned the event on his blog
Posted by: JJR | August 7, 2009 8:42 PM
I'm sure PZ's choice of footwear was purely a practical decision and not a fashion statement...
Posted by: LinzeeBinzee | August 7, 2009 8:43 PM
Rich Stage...asked but no response yet...patience is not something I posess lol
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:43 PM
Here ya go, Patricia, the shirt that got the kid Expelled
Posted by: ChrisKG | August 7, 2009 8:45 PM
Ha! Those are great! I was just thinking the ladies were left out of the silliness, but I was wrong. Thank you Ken and Rich, that made my day.
Posted by: Flea | August 7, 2009 8:45 PM
Epic!
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 8:46 PM
My epic grammar fail back in #154: "the end of II Timothy 3" and "you were brainwashed to believe it since you were a child". Meh.
Another angle on PZ pwning the plastic Triceratops.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:47 PM
Ken Ham's right-hand man admonishes the T-Shirted miscreant
Posted by: Bone Oboe | August 7, 2009 8:49 PM
Wasn't the big red/orange monster's name "Gossamer?"
Posted by: Phaedrus | August 7, 2009 8:50 PM
PZ, have you been riding your daughter again?
Shame on you!
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 8:51 PM
And what was so offensive about his shirt to "Dr" Mark Loser, I hear you ask?
It had the London Atheist bus slogan writ large across it.
Creotards...
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 8:53 PM
Wasn't the big red/orange monster's name "Gossamer?"
Pedant points available. "Gossamer" was not the monster's original name! What was the monster first called, and by whose authority is the name "Gossamer" considered canonical?
Posted by: Mikey M | August 7, 2009 8:54 PM
But did you stay on for eight seconds?
Posted by: JHS
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August 7, 2009 8:56 PM
That picture made my week.
Posted by: Jim Anderson | August 7, 2009 9:00 PM
Wait--why is the dinosaur unplugged?
Posted by: Bone Oboe | August 7, 2009 9:01 PM
@ Ken Cope #174.
That's just what I recall hearing his(?) name was. I grew up in the late 70's watching Saturday Morning 'toons and
A.) Hadn't looked at the wiki-link.
B.) Wasn't attempting to state the monster's moniker was graven on stone tablets.
It was just a bit of trivia flotsam lodged in my brain.
Posted by: forest_rock | August 7, 2009 9:02 PM
PZ To the Rescue!
Posted by: Melissa Kaercher | August 7, 2009 9:06 PM
Please please oh please tell me that you painted "Hi there!" on one Triceratops butt cheek and "Dear John" on the other, and then whooped like Armageddon was nigh!
Posted by: Gene | August 7, 2009 9:06 PM
Giddyup!
Posted by: Ted H. | August 7, 2009 9:07 PM
@Ken Cope #174
IIRC, the Mad Scientist (BOO) called him "Rudolph" at one point.
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 9:07 PM
It was just a bit of trivia flotsam lodged in my brain.
Ken wasn't accusing you of anything; he was just continuing the bugs-bunny quiz. You have no need to explain anything.
...and I say Ken's given us a trick question.
sneaky bastard.
:p
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 9:10 PM
It was just a bit of trivia flotsam lodged in my brain.
There's always room for more trivia, Jetsam (S'OK--the 70's is when I began my cartoon-making apprenticeship).
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 9:11 PM
Thanks Ken!
That's it? That's the worst they could find among us? I wonder what they would have done if a Westboro Baptist church t-shirt had shown up, presumably GOD HATES FAGS! fits right in with their dogma.
Posted by: Nanu Nanu | August 7, 2009 9:12 PM
Looks like it's wearing a prayer shawl. Rabbi Triceratops!
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 7, 2009 9:13 PM
I took the liberty of posting almost all today's photos from the afternoon twitter feed with key commentary tweets into one post on my site. If you'd like to scan the day in an easy format, just click on the link in my name.
Posted by: Richard Smith | August 7, 2009 9:14 PM
@Janine, OMnivore (#57):
www.stuffonmydino.com
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 9:14 PM
Right (Ted H) and double right, Ichthyic (it's not that tricky though). I'm just embarrassed I got beaten to the punch on your quote and am trying to recover a bit of face...
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 9:14 PM
Balloons for the picture from Forest Rock:
PZ: "YEEEHAWW! Let's ride, Bucky*! I'll hit 'em high and you hit em low!"
Old guy 1: "Now son, it's nothing personal, we just don't like freaks like you. We had to toss someone out, and your shirt, though i agree with what it says, caught my eye."
Tshirt guy: "..."
Old guy 2: "I wish all these little shits would GET OFF MY LAWN! Wait... Did I remember to turn off the oven?"
*short for Buckminster, which is what PZ named his new pet Trike.
Posted by: Chris Smyr | August 7, 2009 9:16 PM
This is all sorts of excellence.
Posted by: Xenithrys | August 7, 2009 9:16 PM
Is that a baby Triceratops or is PZ like totally enormous?
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 7, 2009 9:18 PM
Wait--why is the dinosaur unplugged?
It's an acoustic trike.
Posted by: Travis | August 7, 2009 9:18 PM
Thanks forest_rock. I haven't laughed much in a while but I broke into a giggling fit after seeing that and reading the caption.
It might have more to do with the beer I have been drinking though.
Posted by: ObSciGuy | August 7, 2009 9:19 PM
Hey! You're not 12 years old or younger!! ;)
Posted by: Bone Oboe | August 7, 2009 9:22 PM
Icthyic, thank you. I figured as much, which is why I try take responses, when I decide to quit reading/lurking and post something, with either a grain of salt or a long pull of (In this case.) Stone Old Guardian.
It's also why I had to quickly check the freshly sparked urge to unlimber the caps-lock invective artillery. But, since I don't want to wear out my welcome, and be flushed down into the dungeon with the other whackos, wankers, flamers, tools and trolls, I opted not to read to deeply into his post.
Another reason I tend to hang back and read/lurk more often than post is that I try to keep an eye on the depth, and realize as soon as possible when I'm out of mine.
And once that happens it becomes my endeavor to sit back and try to learn.
Posted by: salon_1928 | August 7, 2009 9:25 PM
Ah, the money-shot! PZ and fellow Pharyngulites - I salute you!
Stu
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 9:25 PM
That's it? That's the worst they could find among us?
Not only that, Patricia, but it reportedly happened as only stragglers were still on their way out. "And watch you don't even think about returning! I've got a flaming audio-animatronic Vorpal sword in case you ever even think about trying to sneak back into Ken Ham's little piece of paradise! Here, I've fashioned some garments made of fur for you to cover your shame. It's only a little fur coat, but, hey..."
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 9:28 PM
Camels With Hammers - Thanks for posting all those photos, but none of Tom the Troll?
I think Josh should either sit over a bucket or strap on a Depends before he looks at the photos, the poor man is going to have some sort of 'accident' in his pants.
Posted by: Mike | August 7, 2009 9:29 PM
You look like a character right out of one of the Dinotopia books!
Posted by: Josh
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August 7, 2009 9:35 PM
Yeah, I've been resisting the urge* so far...
*The urge to LOOK, people--the urge to LOOK. Jesus...
Posted by: dorcheat | August 7, 2009 9:46 PM
PZ rides "Tundro the Tremendous" of the Herculoids. The old Gen Xer's here will appreciate the following youtube clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu3yZU022aY
Posted by: DonRocko | August 7, 2009 9:47 PM
Now if we could only get Dawkins to strike that pose - not that they'd let him in the door...
This image made my day. Seriously awesome.
Also forest_rock, awesome green screen! I was hoping someone would use that.
Posted by: 386sx | August 7, 2009 9:47 PM
Haahaha it's not even a real dinosaur. I thought they had a different "worldview". I thought they would have real dinosaurs. Lol.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 9:48 PM
Ken - Then good on us! I'm proud of everyone that went. Hopefully the young man that got singled out for their absurd sensibilities wasn't too traumatized or *gasp* converted. ;)
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 9:50 PM
Somehow, Patricia, I suspect being tossed from a creationist establishment will not turn the young man's head towards deities.
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 7, 2009 9:54 PM
Patricia, did they photograph Tom The Troll??? I must have missed it. I tried to go through every link but every now and then I'd still miss one. Do you remember where you might have seen him? On which twitter feed?
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 9:56 PM
Josh - Fight the urge! Grand Canyon = gawd... Don't look!
Posted by: Chris P | August 7, 2009 10:00 PM
If you are into reading more about understanding Pastor Tom Estes he also has a miniblog here:-
http://hardtruthblog.wordpress.com/
Some stuff about how Harry Potter will drive children to witchcraft and idolatry. Funny how Christians even believe in witches when it quite clear there are none.
Poor old Rowling is supposedly trying to blur the line between Christianity and witchcraft. Given that she wrote it to get out of poverty I don't think that she had Estes' agenda in mind.
Tom Estes does not appear to get out much.
Posted by: bsk | August 7, 2009 10:04 PM
Accusations of AtheistVandalismTM in 3... 2... 1...
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 10:04 PM
Camels - Re: Pastor Tom the Troll, I don't know, I'm asking you. I don't get twitter. He's made such a grand ass of himself here in the past few days that I'd like to see the beast.
Hey maybe that was him wearing the saddle...
Posted by: Diego | August 7, 2009 10:06 PM
Awesome!!
I am sure it was a lot of fun, but I am still happier that I went down to a local beach instead. The setting sun over salt marsh with black skimmers flying low above a mirror placid Gulf of Mexico beats dealing with wackaloons.
Okay, leading an invading army to beard the lion (or pig--"ham"?) in his den is not ordinary wackaloon confrontation, but I still prefer the beach.
Posted by: Paulino | August 7, 2009 10:15 PM
Is that a real Triceratops?!
Posted by: Rick R | August 7, 2009 10:17 PM
Patricia- "I wonder what they would have done if a Westboro Baptist church t-shirt had shown up, presumably GOD HATES FAGS! fits right in with their dogma."
Do they still have the "wall of hate" at the Creo "museum"? It's a wall of crap lit in spooky red light, scraps of magazine articles about all the devil-inspired sludge the world is sinking into BEACUSE THEY'VE ABANDONED THE WORD OF GAWD!!!!!1111one!!
It's thoughtful of them to let you know what it's moral to hate.
And yes, gay teens and gay marriage are prominently pictured.
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 7, 2009 10:20 PM
"Camels - Re: Pastor Tom the Troll, I don't know, I'm asking you. I don't get twitter. He's made such a grand ass of himself here in the past few days that I'd like to see the beast.
Hey maybe that was him wearing the saddle..."
HAHAHAHA, no, he's not a dinosaur, he's an ass. And from the creation museum we know those two species can't be remotely related.
Posted by: Good Reason News | August 7, 2009 10:21 PM
Anyone make a joke about this urban dictionary entry yet?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jesus%20riding%20a%20dinosaur
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 10:22 PM
I posted some of the culled tweets for CreoZerg, plus some photos at
http://web.me.com/lynna.howard/PrueHeart/Blog/Blog.html
Posted by: Rtp10 | August 7, 2009 10:25 PM
Giddy-up Cowboy.
Posted by: H.H. | August 7, 2009 10:25 PM
How is wearing a "there probably is no god" T-shirt offensive to Christians? I understand why they may not agree with it, but what exactly about that statement is there to take offense at? Don't they know what an atheist is, after all? If they can declare a simple declarative statement of fact such as that "offensive" then the word ceases to have all meaning.
Posted by: foxfire | August 7, 2009 10:25 PM
PZ and fellow Pharyngulytes who attended ...WIN! And THANK YOU for sharing!
Rich Stage (see #66 for example, plus links from RBDC and SC) - THANK YOU!
Posted by: breadmaker | August 7, 2009 10:27 PM
what's with the tie... are you making fun of creationists making fun of atheists making fun of creationists?
Posted by: Chris P | August 7, 2009 10:33 PM
This comment is interesting over at Tom's blog from Shaun:-
"But if there were 300 atheists there, at least the better part of 150 of them were homosexual,"
Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality?
Oh - same answer I guess. The fact that homosexuality is common in many animal species was not mentioned in their science book.
Oh and one of the Tom groupies is his sister. Not sure who Shaun is. Brandon is supposed to interpret images of human insides but hasn't read Neil Shubin's book.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 10:37 PM
This almost cost me a mouth full of whisky
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 10:41 PM
This twitter thing was a somewhat weird experience, and I got bored with it in the end (and it was 3am after a long day).
Thanks Camels,Ken et al for posting the pics !
So one kid got thrown out for a T-shirt that has a slogan that's been on half the buses in the country? Ah well, so be it then.
And I really want to know the answer to the burning questions : Did creepy Tom shake PZ's hand?? Was there any clashes with the forces of evil??
Posted by: GMacs | August 7, 2009 10:41 PM
Do we want this to be the dominant image of atheism???
Um, jah! Except I would go with a raptor. Or maybe the squid was better.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 10:42 PM
I'm still curious if PZ had to summon his giant squid at any point.
wait, that sounds kinda dirty
Posted by: ricklend | August 7, 2009 10:46 PM
Beautiful! Congratulations PZ!
You look great, but I wished you had used Prada red shoes like the pope. I guess you cannot think of everything before hand. The guards might not have allowed it anyway. Too disrespectful of the Catholic church?? Actually someone with Photoshop. Hmm! Come to think of it, I probably could do it.
Posted by: Kitty'sBitch | August 7, 2009 10:48 PM
"PZ so needs to be raising a sword and yelling "YOUR CONCERN IS NOTED!!!""
That's almost Kaufman level genius.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 10:51 PM
Did creepy Tom shake PZ's hand??
I guess so, sort of...
If you want to find Pastor T.Estes' blog entry just up (with, as yet, no comments--I guess that's what happens when you ip ban everybody) PZ wasn't finished getting out of his car in the parking lot (where museum types were reportedly snapping photos of every car with any identifying bumper stickerage) before being extended the hand of friendship. Pastor T.Estes appears to be disappointed that PZ didn't immediately embrace him like a long-lost brother and immediately drop to his knees and renounce his atheism, but Pastor T probably needs to work on his charisma point merit badges at Jesus Camp.
Posted by: Graham | August 7, 2009 10:52 PM
Damn! Dog sure made some cool looking critters 6000 years ago. Too bad he had to smite them. Maybe they had too many horns. Dog disapproves of horniness.
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 10:58 PM
Thanks Ken !
From that blog:
Perception can be a real bitch, I guess.
Posted by: Sphere Coupler | August 7, 2009 11:04 PM
WHAT! no spurs, no, no, I suppose not, no spurs for the Dinosaur whisperer.heh heh heh
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 11:10 PM
LOL
Oh, and to continue from Tom's blog, it makes for great reading actually, he thought most of the atheists looked like, wait for it.....mis-fits !
Reminds me of my catholic grandmother 30 years ago.
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 7, 2009 11:10 PM
Yes, Pastor Tom ran up and shook my hand as soon as I got out of the car. It was a little weird -- who is this strange guy? -- and when he mentioned his name, I lost all interest. There were 300 interesting people gathered in a huge line off to the right.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 11:12 PM
The guy comes to this blog, makes an ass of himself, and then gets miffed because PZ doesn't gush at him. Creationism isn't the only area where Pastor T. Estes doesn't have contact with reality.
Posted by: crs | August 7, 2009 11:13 PM
From Ham's blog regarding the visit:
Ham just insured many "decent" Xtians will visit Pharyngula to read the uncensored version. Pearls will be clutched.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 11:15 PM
elevated sense of self importance.
Sorry Tom, no one really gives a shit about you. Your 15 mins of blog fame will be up soon enough.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 11:16 PM
What's the matter with misfits?
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 11:19 PM
Pastor T. Estes shows that he's more comfortable with people wearing khaki trousers and blue polo shirts. How boring.
Posted by: Kel, OM | August 7, 2009 11:20 PM
Wasn't this guy (and his wife) complaining about personal insults hurled at him? It seems that fucks like that do nothing like they have preached.Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 11:21 PM
Nothing
Posted by: Sphere Coupler | August 7, 2009 11:23 PM
Kel:
I think he's confused...this is what free individual thinkers looks like.
Posted by: ricklend | August 7, 2009 11:24 PM
This photo in the right media hands, could become a classic. Actually, it already is a classic.
Posted by: Rick R | August 7, 2009 11:24 PM
T.estes-"I know many of you will say I'm judgmental, but..."
Oh merde.
Posted by: Ben Mueller-Heaslip | August 7, 2009 11:24 PM
@220 + 227 How the hell are you still accessing Tom's Blog? I thought that blighter had pitched everyone who ever commented there. The IRON CURTAIN OF SELF-DELUSION descends...
@200 nice to hear that he's now comfortable letting the blatant homophobes have their way with it now that it's an exclusively Christian blog.
Posted by: Jadehawk | August 7, 2009 11:25 PM
hah, awesome photo! glad everypone had fun.
and did Pastor Tom really say "many of them just looked like people who would have a hard time fitting in with the real world"?
well, for one I'm glad he admits the creation museum isn't part of the real world. secondly though, that's just deliciously ironic. :-)
Posted by: Renee | August 7, 2009 11:26 PM
Re: #124
I've read Pierce's book, and vehemently disagree with his assessment. :) That is not an English saddle. I ride English, and there are two basic varieties of English saddles: The All-Purpose/Jumping style (http://www.mhja6.org/images/PhotoGal16/IMG_1021-0945x800.jpg) or dressage (http://www.doversaddlery.com/pop_multi_view.asp?pn=X1-15157&pimage=15157.jpg&altImage=||). The "saddle" that PZ was sitting in does not appear to fit in either category. Plus, neither English Australian saddles can have more than one underbelly strap (girth/cinch). Only western/stock saddles can do that. And the placement is all wrong on the dino! Argh! At least make an effort Hammy!! (/horseback rider pedant)
That dino looks better suited to a western saddle anyway, especially with PZ's cowboy hat. ;)
Posted by: Tad Moody | August 7, 2009 11:28 PM
This is, perhaps, the single greatest image I have ever laid eyes on. Wish I could have been there!
Posted by: GMacs | August 7, 2009 11:28 PM
Looks like it's wearing a prayer shawl. Rabbi Triceratops!
How would the yarmulke fit on its head? Or does is its crest sufficient for the purpose?
Posted by: Cuttlefish, OM | August 7, 2009 11:29 PM
With sincere apologies to Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Fools
Rode the Three Hundred.
'Forward, the Bright Brigade!
Charge for the doors!' he said.
Into the valley of Fools
Rode the Three Hundred.
'Forward, the Bright Brigade!'
Were any there dismay'd?
Not tho' the Atheists knew
Ken Ham had blunder'd.
Theirs was to question lies--
Theirs was to reason why--
Theirs was but to go and spy;
Into the valley of Fools
Rode the Three Hundred.
Placards to the right of them.
Dioramas to the left of them.
Ignorance in front of them,
Where creationists chunder'd.
Stormed at with crap and lies
Boldly, with crocoduck ties,
Into the Jaws of Crap
Into the Mouth of Lies
Rode the Three Hundred.
Twitter'd to a waiting world
Twitter'd as the tale unfurl'd
Blogging, texting, what was there
Uploading pictures while
All the world wondered
Took the Ceratopsian Ride
Posted Pics with Peacocks' pride
Atheist Pharyngulites
Cleansed the room with rising tide,
Shattered and sunder'd
A Noachian flood which all espied
Except the Three Hundred
Placards to the right of them.
Dioramas to the left of them.
Ignorance behind them,
The gift store unplunder'd
Stormed at by security guards
With self-respect in shattered shards
The lies in bold face on the cards
Veterans of the falsehoods shown
Veterans of the creotards
All that was left of them,
Left of three Hundred
When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wonder’d.
Honor the charge they made!
Honor the Bright Brigade,
Noble Three hundred.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 11:29 PM
Hey Kel, nothing like good old Alternative call and response. When I was cranking out particle systems for the only video game I worked on that got published, Death Jr., the rollout title for the PSP, our all-purpose stand-in sprite was the Misfits skull, which worked nice, whether it was used to comprise fire or ice.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 11:31 PM
Here is the pastor's blog. Spends a lot of time complaining that the atheists did not learn the true message of such an august place. He also conflates an overheard statement to show that atheists are not able to think on their own.
I really dislike this man.
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 7, 2009 11:33 PM
What's creepy is the way that "Pastor Tom" presumes his way into strangers' lives. I can understand why BlagHag got so creeped out. He has read you and her on the internet, badly wants to join in and be respected by you both enough that you'll spar with him but he has no sense of respect for either of you. He has no shame in just barging in to assert his own importance and your need to listen to him.
I am sure there were dozens of people thrilled at the thought of meeting you today and yet none of them acted like a foreign dignitary waiting and demanding to be acknowledged by another head of state. That lack of humility in meeting someone you admire and who is way more famous and influential than you are sounds off the charts narcissistic and delusional to me.
So, yeah, way to go in blowing the dude off.
Posted by: Juniper | August 7, 2009 11:37 PM
@ Cuttlefish #248
*wipes tears*
Stirring... epic... LEGENDARY!
Posted by: Chris P | August 7, 2009 11:43 PM
Re #243
Did God say we could have only one e-mail account and one computer and one provider? And do I have to sign on as me?
I've been using computers for over 40 years. I was online before online was online. I had a test account with Control Data's Pluto system.
This is Tom's problem - he cannot believe that there are people who know more than he does. I used to be in a church choir, my father worked at a Catholic convent, we lived opposite a Catholic church. I studied religious knowledge at high school. And I haven't seen a damn thing that would indicate there is a god or angels or witches or ghosts.
Bach organ music is nice, live in a cathedral.
Posted by: Rich Stage | August 7, 2009 11:46 PM
I am more than happy to be of service. I know that there are a lot of people that couldn't go, and I felt like it was important for everyone to have an idea as to what happened there.
I heard PZ chuckle once, and mutter something about how laughable it was that there was no science there at all. I think all of us had that reaction, almost the entire time we were there.
It was a good time, though. Seeing first hand the idiocy, and the people that believe that idiocy, was very educational.
Seeing PZ on the triceratops made the $10 I had to give those slimey weasels worth it, though. At least I took the chance to donate to the SSA.
I don't think I'll ever do that again, but it was worth it for the lulz. I'll be posting a full report in limerick form within a couple of days.
Posted by: tsg | August 7, 2009 11:48 PM
Jesus, what a pretentious fuck. I like how he's already setting up the "you weren't there long enough to know what it's really about" card.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 11:49 PM
What made me say Kel? So Sorry, RBDC; Mifits!
Posted by: Kel | August 7, 2009 11:54 PM
That I have a degree in Game Programming? :PPosted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 11:57 PM
That I have a degree in Game Programming?
Hey, I'm working on my degree in 2D/3D animation so I can teach my craft in public schools. We've got complementary skillZ!
Posted by: Chris P | August 8, 2009 12:01 AM
Given that people were making comments about PZ's choice of clothing reminded me of another obsession that good old Tom has - the act of sodomy.
Why does anybody care what two consenting adults do? Why are the religious so concerned about where one person puts one part of their anatomy relative to another persons part of their anatomy. I always wonder if some of these Southern states have measurement guidelines, probably measured in feet because they don't have rules for feet.
"You cannot put this body part within X feet of another person's this, this or this"
Do the police carry tape measures?
Posted by: Kel, OM | August 8, 2009 12:03 AM
Indeed, I can program but I'm hopeless at art.Posted by: Ted Herrlich | August 8, 2009 12:03 AM
YeeeeeeHawwwwww!
It was fun seeing PZ in his suit and sneakers. The so-called 'museum' was interested in a macabre sort of way. My wife, who puts up with my interests as sort of an exercise in patience, thought the whole place was a "monument to denial".
I posted a couple of pics here (http://sciencestandards.blogspot.com/2009/08/im-back-and-spent-interesting-day.html) and will be posting more as I write up my time spent at the museum.
It was interesting listening to the one member of the SSA talk about how a security guard objected to his tee-shirt -- one with the logo "There probably is no God, now stop worrying and enjoy life". As he related his story he mentioned that some family complained to the guard and said that he "Ruined their entire vacation". All I can say is 'Yes!' If a tee-shirt like that caused such a reaction I would say it was more the high point of their vacation -- if something so simple could set them off.
He also mentioned that the guard said that there had been several incidents. All I saw was a group of extremely polite people who discussed, in low tones, any objections to some of the silliness they saw. I would be interested to hear of the 'incidents'.
Ted
tedhohio@gmail.com
http://sciencestandards.blogspot.com
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 8, 2009 12:04 AM
Tom Estest proves with his latest post that his is a dishonest hack only concerned with riling up his readers.
What a great example of religious honestly.
Posted by: TheVirginian | August 8, 2009 12:06 AM
Hmmmppphhh!
Everyone knows only the kiddies rode the Triceratopses. Men rode the Velociraptors! Those were the bucking broncos of their day. Even though they didn't eat meat then - this was before Noah's Flood - they still had those nasty big claws which could give you quite a cut, or worse, if you got thrown the wrong way.
Next time be a real he-man and get on the Velociraptor!
Posted by: Jadehawk | August 8, 2009 12:07 AM
from Pastor tom's blog: "They seemed to be people who were atheists because they needed a group to fit into."
shiny shiny mirror...
Posted by: Rick R | August 8, 2009 12:14 AM
Those are some snazzy-ass pinstripes, PZ.
Posted by: Sphere Coupler | August 8, 2009 12:18 AM
Jadehawk:
...it boggles.
Posted by: Fallsroad | August 8, 2009 12:19 AM
@PZ:
Your tie.
Give it to me.
NOW! :)
Posted by: Erp | August 8, 2009 12:24 AM
In regards to Cuttlefish's poem in #248, do we really want to associate PZ with Lord Cardigan?
Posted by: Pat | August 8, 2009 12:33 AM
Hilarious! I don't know what to say. Please tell me that when your popular book hits the shelves that this image will be included.
Posted by: Mystyk | August 8, 2009 12:37 AM
Holy smokes, Batman!
PZ Myers is now a Kentucky Colonel!
Posted by: Sauceress | August 8, 2009 12:37 AM
@Ted Herrlich #261
I saw a comment on a link back up thread,(@#164,posted by Ken Cope), re a group being informed by staff that they "were not allowed to engage in dialogue. "That was in the form you signed", he said." WTF?
Really wanted to ask about it but then saw it was getting pretty late over there on this thread. (I'm in Oz)
Ken's link...
http://twitpic.com/d2qgi
Posted by: Drosera | August 8, 2009 12:37 AM
Camels With Hammers,
Thanks for the 'Museum' pictures. I learned something new from them: According to the creationists, Adam's sin caused plants to start competing with each other and to turn into weeds...
Wow. Every time you think it can't possibly get worse, these people cap their own stupidity. Their brains must look like Swiss cheese
Posted by: Roadtripper | August 8, 2009 12:51 AM
"Pastor T. Estes shows that he's more comfortable with people wearing khaki trousers and blue polo shirts. How boring."
He presides at the 1st Church of Best Buy?
Weird.
Rt
Posted by: Dan W | August 8, 2009 12:55 AM
Oh the lulz that picture, and the video posted by someone else, gave me! Awesome. Also, another great poem by Cuttlefish. Lastly, that Tom Estes really is a prick, isn't he. I checked out the link to his blog post, and it was oh so pretentious. Estes seems upset that people were quietly mocking the "exhibits" in the Creation "Museum"... what did he expect? All the atheists there would blindly except the sort of nonsense they might find there as fact? He just loves to rag on all you guys.
Apparently, since you guys weren't kicked out, it went okay. I'm glad for that. Hope to hear more about how the visit went soon!
Posted by: MaxH
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August 8, 2009 1:00 AM
That picture...
You're my hero, PZ.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 8, 2009 1:06 AM
Hi Sauceress,
If you have a twitter account you can comment on a picture in order to forward it to people who follow you (it's not like I know much about any of this stuff, my wife has been coaching me and I've produced perhaps 6 tweets since I started playing with this), but the comments on that image were made by another visitor there with the SSA group, who also posted, or at least referenced, images from the day.
Following the #CreoZerg on Twitter has been an education on how thoroughly computers can connect us to each other in a way that gods never can. This event has been a sort of dress rehearsal for me about how to use my new iphone and a couple of apps to be able to make any short messages, pictures, or videos available to anybody around the world (including the four or five people who'd want to see them). That the picture of Ham's right hand man excoriating the kid with the shirt against the green screen was one of maybe six images PZ uploaded from his iphone (or was it the itouch he won from Creotards with our assistance?) was one of the edgiest events of the day, and the entire world could watch (once PZ was outside the Farraday Cage of the CM and could upload it), proves that sunshine is the best disinfectant. There was quite a bit of light reflected from one of the darker spots on the planet today.
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 8, 2009 1:09 AM
no problem, Drosera, thanks for stopping by!
Posted by: may | August 8, 2009 1:29 AM
royal blue shirt and pin stripe suit?
you. you. you American!!!
cool steed
so who am i to say
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 1:32 AM
I wish I could have been there. Unfortunately, I was caught up in those horrible, immoral acts that atheists are always engaging in, such as going to work and then taking my children shopping for school supplies and clothing.
BTW, I give the saurian (I wish I could say raptor, it would be so catchy) ride a 10. Good show.
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 1:39 AM
Look everybody! Mabus popped up again!
Posted by: Leni | August 8, 2009 1:42 AM
Ken Cope @ 249 wrote:
That's awesome! I love that game. I have it on Wii, being a relative newcomer to games, but it is still pretty damn fun. And super silly. Plus, Misfits! *high fives*
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 1:43 AM
Mr. Markuze, would you please seek some medical attention? You've truly had a psychotic break, now it's time to deal with it.
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 1:50 AM
Sorry for responding to the crazy person. I'll shut up now.
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 1:55 AM
I wasn't saying sorry to you, you insane piece of shit. I was apologizing for doing what I'm doing right now....fuck, there I go again. To the ignore list with the crazy fuck.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | August 8, 2009 2:01 AM
Here's another video of PZ riding the dino.
Posted by: Leni | August 8, 2009 2:03 AM
Gotta love killfile...
Posted by: Ron Sullivan | August 8, 2009 2:05 AM
Damn. That's more fun than a barrel of common ancestors.
Posted by: Sphere Coupler | August 8, 2009 2:10 AM
Feynmaniac: Great video...thanks
Posted by: Ichthyic | August 8, 2009 2:11 AM
see how we won the James Randi Paranormal Challenge...
call the men in the white coats! Mabus has escaped again!
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 8, 2009 2:23 AM
Another great angle for the cubist forensics, Feynmaniac.
And he called for his hat
And he called for his squid
And he called for his twitterers 3(hundred, that is)
Posted by: meyer
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August 8, 2009 2:28 AM
Haha, I hope the visit went well. I wish I could have been among the horde :)
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 2:29 AM
Here's a video for mabus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I906YSSfB5Q
"Sanity is a full time job" and his ass got fired.
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 2:32 AM
I was gonna post "American Psycho" by the Misfits just to stay within the thread, but sometimes Greg Graffin says it best.
Posted by: charfles | August 8, 2009 2:37 AM
Does anyone else see the irony in the troll posting "debunkingskeptics dot com"? That domain name makes my head explode.
Posted by: Rick R | August 8, 2009 2:37 AM
Ron Sullivan- "That's more fun than a barrel of common ancestors."
Quite simply, for the win!
(I won't reference your post #, for obvious reasons)
Posted by: QT | August 8, 2009 2:45 AM
"We're going to get this dinosaur out of the Creation Museum if it harelips everyone in Bear Creek!"
Posted by: robertm | August 8, 2009 2:51 AM
"We defecate all over you and your deluded blind followers, PZ"
Anybody watch The Mighty Boosh?
Reminds me of that episode were Harold tries to impress the goth girls,
"Went to a graveyard today, got naked, did a shit on a tombstone..."
"Killed a swan yesterday, did a shit on it...right on it."
What a great way to start a conversation.
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 2:52 AM
See what you missed PZ? A fucking jailbreak.
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 8, 2009 2:54 AM
Hopefully by the time I post this, the fæcal matter left behind by the random pzdummy troll will have been dealt with.
I was going to commend the post by Ken Cope, currently at #276 (the number of which may change once the real PZ removes the dung from the thread), where he said the following, quoted for truth:
As far as I can tell, this ugly scene is nothing more than a gross egotistical power trip for the Answers-in-Genesis appointed goon, "Dr" Mark Loo[n]y, who evidently enjoyed throwing his weight around, against a much younger visitor to the so-called "Museum" who we gather was leaving.
I will be interested to hear what the Dawk's view are, when he finds out this latest "Expelled" case involved this T-shirt.
Regards, Philip
PS I had previously resisted joining the "twitterati", but I suppose I can see some use in it!
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 8, 2009 2:55 AM
Oh, the prof in the suit / He knows Mabe's a fruit / 'N he's ridin' to take him away / Ho ho / Hee hee / Ha ha ...
(/Back in the land of the slightly less in need of urgent institutional help, I'm so digging the tie... And for some reason, I'm getting this cartoon image of a stodgy, Very Serious Creationist saying with great alarm: 'Crockoducks 'n Pygmies 'n Dwarves 'n Damn Kids Wearing Insufficiently Pious T-Shirts, Oh My!!'... But I guess an image with that much text probably isn't really tie material, sadly...)
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 3:00 AM
Yet another vid for the psycho (sorry for the flood of bad religion)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRlwCPbKIY4
Posted by: JafafaHots | August 8, 2009 3:06 AM
Gosh.
And to think that until moments ago I thought of religion as a mental illness. How could I have gotten that impression?
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 3:10 AM
Back to topic(ish) here's what went through my mind seeing PZ on the dino, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRbyC2cl9aY Just put an acoustic guitar just under the squid.
Posted by: Martin | August 8, 2009 3:18 AM
PZ has Markuzes address and contact info. I think after he plonks all these comments today, it might be a good idea to send the cops around to pay Markuze a visit. After all, he has now made direct threats. Wish I could have joined everyone today! Looks like it was great fun.
Posted by: phi1ip
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August 8, 2009 3:23 AM
People, please don't feed the troll...
Otherwise this is just me testing ScienceBlogs' sign-in feature, since I just posted a long response that is now "held for approval by the blog owner" - probably for quite a while, as I gather it's sleepy-time over in the US now and PZ probably won't be awake for hours yet.
Feynmaniac, you said (August 8, 2009 2:01 AM, since the post # will change when PZ boots out the troll), "Here's another video of PZ riding the dino"; so where was the first posted, that I missed? Was it taken by the lady standing off to one side in this photo?
Regards, PMaL
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 8, 2009 3:28 AM
Hmm, that was a little unexpected - instead of my usual moniker of Pope Maledict the 666, it directly linked the name of my (inactive) livejournal...
Pharyngulite: Pope Maledict = LJ: phi1ip = Philip from Melbourne (AU, not FL)
Posted by: J | August 8, 2009 3:42 AM
Nice pic, bad shoes
Posted by: Ragutis | August 8, 2009 3:42 AM
Hey! This "pzdummy" guy is spamming the thread dozens of times with the same bilious and nonsensical rant, and spicing them with increasingly crass insults and threats. He must be credible and wise! I shall follow his link straight away!
Since I can't think of any songs about professors riding dinosaurs, how about some more Misfits?
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 3:44 AM
So I guess I do serve a purpose here considering that, at least, the first few death threats were aimed at me.
(sorry about the grammar)
Posted by: tohellwithyourturtle | August 8, 2009 3:51 AM
Misfits you want, misfits you get...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQjOt2yo12k
Posted by: Rick R | August 8, 2009 4:11 AM
Taking the thread back-
Creation "museum" and bad art. They go together like a burger and fries....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo
Posted by: Faithless | August 8, 2009 4:17 AM
A suit and TRAINERS?
{Clears throat.} My word, Agnes, America really is a dreadful country.
Posted by: Vole | August 8, 2009 4:39 AM
In the light of evidence earlier in this thread, apparently I'm going to have to accept that, against all expectation, a balls-spouting pastor called T Estes really does exist. Oh well. That's the scientific method for you.
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 8, 2009 4:52 AM
"OOOOOOOFFFFEENNNNSSIIIIIIIVVVE! Against my advice, the Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers ran an incredibly offensive ad on city buses in De Moines featuring . . . lesbians . . . [offensive words edited out]." - crs quoting from Ken the Ham's blog
Well, at least the Ham realises that "bibles" is an offensive word!
Posted by: robster-fcd.myopenid.com
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August 8, 2009 5:08 AM
Here are some of the pics CiCi and I took. More tomorrow, maybe Sunday. Thanks to all the people who made today possible, and to the #creozerg twits, er, tweeters, um, twaddles?
Posted by: Ryan Egesdahl | August 8, 2009 5:22 AM
TSG #255 said:
This is an iteration of the Courtier's Reply, which is itself a manifestation of the Dunning-Kruger effect. In simpler terms: the man's a moron and doesn't want to admit it.
@pzdummy
Such wonderful, warm, Christian love. My, I am just rushing off to join a church after seeing this. Rushing, I tell you. I just can't wait to join the Cognitive Dissonance party at the ol' church, yessiree.
If you didn't do it in controlled conditions set up by the panel, you didn't win the Challenge. You didn't, so you are a liar.
Mirror, mirror.
Posted by: Troy | August 8, 2009 5:57 AM
Yeah, sneakers with a suit was really weird.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 6:05 AM
Pastor Tom Estes wrote on his blog, Hard Truth:
Snort. Pastor Tom, I am not impressed with your impression. You apparently have never learned that correlation is not the same as causation. What would you expect freethinkers to look and dress like?
But that logic lesson aside: Just who the heck is he writing about? From the photos I've seen, the bulk of the Pharyngulan Horde looked fairly conventional to me in both looks and dress.
In fact, I was kind of amused at how the photos of PZ's Minions defied the fearful expectations of those who feared the atheists would arrive wearing clothing and sporting body art that would strike the godfearing immediately blind.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 6:09 AM
Hey, what happened to the "Cancel" button under the comment submission box? "Preview" and "Post" are still there.
Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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August 8, 2009 6:14 AM
Please don't look directly into the crazy.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 6:20 AM
From the Inside Science News Service:
Tour of Creation Museum Quieter Than Expected
Posted by: Rick R | August 8, 2009 6:25 AM
"Please don't look directly into the crazy."
I looked at the crazy, Ray!!
Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 8, 2009 6:29 AM
#345: seems the word "naked" is offensive to Ken Ham! That's the ... truth.
Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 8, 2009 6:43 AM
As self-proclaimed specialists in science communication, I am deeply concerned that this is the image scientists want to project to the general public. Bearded biologists clowning around on dinosaurs? This disturbing picture shows all the misunderstanding there is currently about communicating science. It can only alienate several important sections of the public: those who find dinosaurs boring; those who don't like beards; those for whom having a beard is mandated by their religion, and who will be offended by a bearded man with no religion at all; those who hold that dinosaurs are not our playthings, but free creatures that should be left alone; and, last but not least, those who think that dinosaurs never existed.
Can these groups be expected to take offence kindly? It is very likely that they will feel despised by scientists, and as consequence will turn away from it.
Fortunately, there is a solution. Universities with a biology department should set up courses for bearded students about how they should behave with dinosaurs. There are currently many unemployed people who would be qualified as professors, including scores of jobless science journalists. It is not possible anymore to let bearded scientists clown around with dinosaurs without being precisely aware of the consequences of their behavior. The future of the country is at stake.
Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 6:46 AM
This is off topic of everything, but you do know how big Velociraptor was, right? These were not large theropods. The skull is somewhere around eight inches long (I'm averaging in my head from memory because I don't feel like looking it up; there are error bars on that figure but it's in the ballpark). You'd have to be a very small he-man to ride one. More like a he-toddler.
Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 6:49 AM
That's "hordes," you illiterate shithead, and your pastor makes himself more irrelevant with every post.Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 8, 2009 6:56 AM
Oh Cthulhu... Just read Pastor Tom Estes' view of the even on his blog. Can't find the words.
I have a reputation for being a nice guy, perhaps sometimes too nice for my own good. But it's difficult to avoid using such words as "cretin"(*) when reading this.
So I'll try to find less nasty words. Biased. Divorced from reality. Obsessive. Suspicious. Judgemental.
There. It looks less like invective and more like a description.
I have a hard time understanding people like Pastor Tom. Seems that the world is moving around him and he sees nothing, eyes closed, concentrating on the puppet theater in his mind.
(*) I started typing "creatin"... Nice typo isn't it? That could be a new word, defined as a "creationist cretin".
Posted by: Beige | August 8, 2009 6:56 AM
There was no need to rub it in quite that much PZ. :(
Although, congratulations on getting the ride of your life!
Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 6:56 AM
Shawn, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. We're right here. We can hear you. It's okay, dude--go take your meds. And maybe have a nap. We'll wait.
Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 6:57 AM
"Preying."
How apropos.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 6:58 AM
dinkum @ 326:
I don't understand how you can dismiss Pastor Tom Estes as "irrelevant." If nothing else, he's an exemplary example of a self-important, judgmental, smug, supercilious, hypocritical, irrational, non-thinking, poorly educated, creepy jerk.
Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 7:00 AM
Bastion: I stand corrected, with a vengeance. T.Estes is a poster child.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 8, 2009 7:05 AM
Beware oh sycophant of the delusions of your master rubbing off on you. Your hold on reality is small enough as it is.Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 7:09 AM
Oops. Sorry. Was typing too fast.
Huh...oblique shades of D'Arcy Thompson tortured by inanity?
I hate to break it to you, sport, but it was the act of searching for facts in the Bible that ultimately caused me to reject it.
I'm curious* though: if I ask you to just list out, here, ten facts from the Bible, what would you write?
*I know, I know--I couldn't resist.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 7:17 AM
ShaunofTom'sCrew @# 334:
Pastor Tom's insistence on loving people who aren't interested in his attentions and want nothing to do with him is one of his behaviors that makes him so creepy.
Posted by: Ultrevo | August 8, 2009 7:19 AM
Shaun @ 334,
I have yet to hear anything that makes sense or is interesting.
On the velociraptor thing, try;
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/New_Cooler_Edition
Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 8, 2009 7:21 AM
If Australians are dumb and atheists are misfits, than what are Australian atheists like, I wonder?
I also wonder how they can say this and "we love you" in the same paragraph. What do they mean exactly by "love"? Perhaps it has some hidden, negative meaning that only a pastor can understand, such as "pity"?
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 7:21 AM
NoR @# 336
Or to put it another way: the crew is paddling a few oars short.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 8, 2009 7:22 AM
There are no answers in genesis. It is a myth cobbled together from Babylonian myths. Boy, you godbots are so stupid on how your bible is put together, you must go to atheists to learn to truth of your fictional babble.Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 7:23 AM
I've never been accused of being Aussie before. I like it.
Shaun, you never tire of being utterly wrong, do you?
Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 7:27 AM
An interesting guess*, albeit an incorrect one. I'm going to ignore the intelligence comment, except to say that I'm smart enough to have survived the education required for my chosen profession, and am smart enough to have actually had an impact on that profession's body of work. That's enough for me.
Okay, heck, let's keep it at Genesis. I've read Genesis; I'm curious as to what ten facts you would choose from the book if you were just going to list ten out.
*Although why my nationality has any bearing on this conversation, I have no idea.
Posted by: Brachychiton | August 8, 2009 7:33 AM
Like Pastor Ham, then?
*snicker*
Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 7:33 AM
Truly, love and humility of Jesus-like proportions.Posted by: Ben in Texas | August 8, 2009 7:34 AM
There are peasants living in huts in Iran right now who would point at Shaun and laugh, because even they would realize how pig-ignorant he is.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 7:34 AM
ShaunofTom'sCrew @ #341:
Well, of course, Pastor Tom would warn you about reading this blog. He certainly wouldn't want you to be exposed to horrible things like facts and rational thinking.
Such exposure might make you start questioning some of the make-believe and magical thinking you've been taught by him and people like him. And Pastor Tom can't have that, can he?
Posted by: Iain Walker | August 8, 2009 7:36 AM
AJ Milne (#299):
I'm putting that on a t-shirt.
Posted by: ShaunofTom'sCrew | August 8, 2009 7:38 AM
Ben in Texas a touch of racism there yourself - EVEN Irans
Posted by: PZ Myers
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August 8, 2009 7:38 AM
Hmmm. This "ShaunofTom'sCrew" fellow is the same profane jerk who was imitating Pete Rooke, and who was formerly posting bible verses as "DR K". I don't know whether he actually has any affiliation with this Pastor Tom at all, but if he does, the good pastor needs to pull one of his flock aside and give him a stern lecture about disreputable behavior that reflects on his faith. Lying for Jesus is still lying. I'll be deleting his comments as I see them.
As for Pastor Tom himself, I am unimpressed. One squirrelly fellow who darts up, introduces himself and shakes my hand, and darts away quickly, never to be seen by me again, is not exactly a bold and impressive foe, no matter how much he talks up the encounter afterwards.
Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 7:38 AM
I think that Jesus (or whomever was watching Jesus and recording his taming of the
shrewtheropod) needs to brush up on his taxonomy. The theropod in that illustration is rather larger than any known specimen of Velociraptor. Granted, average body size could well go up as more specimens are found, but my guess is that it won't ever go up high enough so as to include an individual that's that big.Posted by: Ben in Texas | August 8, 2009 7:39 AM
Shaun, how is it that you can't even spell "genesis?" I mean, really, just how truly stupid are you? You'd think if there was any word you'd get right, it would be that one.
Ever think there might be a link between your low IQ and your credulity?
(I'll wait while you look up "credulity.")
Posted by: catta
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August 8, 2009 7:41 AM
That does it. Poe. No doubt about it.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 7:42 AM
ShaunofTom'sCrew @#341
Aw, how precious. Kinda like Mommy putting a sticker on your Chores Chart for a job well done.
Posted by: Ben in Texas | August 8, 2009 7:44 AM
Shaun, you continue to reveal your ignorance. Peasants living in huts in Iran would have very little opportunity for an education, and because they live in a theocracy, they would be force-fed a steady diet of dogma. Nothing racist about it. Can't you even begin to think logically?
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 8, 2009 7:47 AM
Gee, don't you just love the honest xians who keep lying to themselves and us. Posting under many assumed names is just the way to convince us of the honesty and integrity of their cause.
Posted by: dinkum | August 8, 2009 7:48 AM
There is an ignorant, bigoted fool posting as "shaun" over on the testes blog. Does the Dunning-Krueger effect apply to cleverness?
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 8, 2009 7:48 AM
PZ@347,
There was certainly a semi-literate "shaun" posting at Pastor Testes' blog a few days ago.
many of them just looked like people who would have a hard time fitting in with the real world. - from Pastor Testes blog.
I think Pastor Testes must have shares in industrial-strength irony meter manufacturers.
Posted by: Dahan | August 8, 2009 7:51 AM
He's lured you into his trap! Now that you've misunderestimated him, you're doomed! DOOMED I TELL YOU!
BTW, I just about spit coffee laughing when I saw this pic come up, this morning. Later, when I've got time I'll run through the the comments.
Posted by: Dahan | August 8, 2009 7:57 AM
ShaunofTom'sCrew. What a sad, pathetic little man you are. Have you considered counseling?
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 8, 2009 7:57 AM
PZ wrote:
Oh, he probably was just worried about getting atheism cooties.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 8, 2009 8:00 AM
The guy who can't spell is dissing an entire country as not very bright? It is to laugh.
Posted by: Iain Walker | August 8, 2009 8:13 AM
Josh (#348):
Well, it's clearly a specimen of Velociraptor speilbergiensis, as described in Volume XXIV of the Proceedings of the Academy of Industrial Light and Magic.
Posted by: Kristjan Wager | August 8, 2009 8:16 AM
Healthyaddict has posted a video with the kid who got kicked out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ThvM9BKZU
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 8, 2009 8:36 AM
I noticed in Healthyaddict's video there were a couple of people wearing FSM t-shirts. I suppose the creationists didn't know about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Posted by: Rick R | August 8, 2009 9:17 AM
"Well, it's clearly a specimen of Velociraptor speilbergiensis, as described in Volume XXIV of the Proceedings of the Academy of Industrial Light and Magic."
Not so. I have all XXVII volumes of the AoILaM, and I can state quite authoritatively that the Velociraptor Speilbergiensis was clearly discovered and reported by none other than Stanus Winstonus.
Posted by: maxamillion | August 8, 2009 9:55 AM
PZ@347,
As for Pastor Tom himself, I am unimpressed. One squirrelly fellow who darts up, introduces himself and shakes my hand, and darts away quickly, never to be seen by me again,
Perhaps he was afraid that you might steal his nuts.
Posted by: Greg Laden
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August 8, 2009 10:12 AM
I'm not sure which is more outrageous, PZ Myers on a Dinosaur at the Creation Museum, or that tie.
Posted by: Iain Walker | August 8, 2009 10:20 AM
Rick R (#363):
Oh, bloody hell. That'll teach me to cite sources from memory.
Posted by: Josh
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August 8, 2009 10:23 AM
You made my whole morning with that. Thank you.
Except, of course, that it I think should be speilbergi (David?) and that it's bad form to name a taxon after yourself (and this just shows us what a rag Proc. Acad. Ind. Light. Magic is, basically just pissing all over the ICZN).
Posted by: damnedyankee | August 8, 2009 10:55 AM
He stole it from Garth Ennis. What would Pastor Tom think to know one of his boys has been reading Preacher?
And Professor Myers on a dinosaur? How can this thing be? The utter wrongness of it is twisting my brain into small dried-out-
Oh, wait. It's not plugged in. Never mind!
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 8, 2009 12:06 PM
I woke up this morning to see this picture!
Now my life is COMPLETE!
Posted by: LinzeeBinzee | August 8, 2009 12:17 PM
Ok I posted my CreoZerg post on my blog last night (along with the "motivational poster" I made out of PZ's picture) and now I've started to get people commenting on other posts trying to save my soul lol...one woman wrote this: "Be blessed, dear one." eww, dear one? I don't know you! So patronizing...
Posted by: Whatever | August 8, 2009 2:43 PM
Funny stuff- since there's a sign right there in plain view that the triceratops is intended for kids 12 and under- right about the maturity level of Myers!
Posted by: Dr. P | August 8, 2009 3:10 PM
Wait, earlier he said they looked like misfits because they didn't look like other people, now they are actually trying to fit by not looking like the conformists in the museum who were not conforming by believing exactly as every other christian group(because you'll burn in hell if you don't) has to believe to be saved....not a real deep well of thought,is he? And this confirms the veracity of the nonsense witnessed at the 'museum'how, exactly? This is why these people disgust me , they fill their mouths with words of love,acceptance and forgiveness, and in between their words its like looking at the underside of a rock where all the creepy crawly other things lie.Posted by: Dr. P | August 8, 2009 3:30 PM
@337, And this is what bothers me,the concepts of true love and acceptance are lost on these people, they have an almost pathologic need to judge an divide everyone into saved and unsaved camps;though they will claim to their dying breath they don't judge, it oozes out of every utterance.
Posted by: Feynmaniac | August 8, 2009 4:41 PM
The Rev. linked a video @15.
Posted by: Al Glover | August 8, 2009 6:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with a country that has people who put saddles on their dinosaurs. It's a wonderful show and we should watch them and applaud. We have no obligation to climb aboard and ride.
Closing of Chapter Two, Idiot America, Charles P. Pierce
Posted by: andreeeea | August 8, 2009 7:00 PM
@ #2
YES WE DO!!!!!!!
except I'd have stuck a nice fat cigar in the likkle sideways grin on the dino. That would have so topped it off.
Posted by: Ryan Egesdahl | August 8, 2009 9:17 PM
Josh #349 said:
Just what part of "New Cooler Edition" did you not get? Clearly, if Jesus were to be riding a dinosaur of any kind, it would be a giant velociraptor. You have no imagination.
Or were you never religious?
Posted by: Bert | August 8, 2009 9:18 PM
I need your tie, your boots and your Triceratops.
Posted by: jake | August 9, 2009 12:29 AM
I rarely comment here, but I must say this: that picture is fucking awesome.
Posted by: aratina cage | August 9, 2009 12:35 AM
The dinosaurs are definitely the best part of the 'museum' so I think it's awesome you hopped on one for a ride! I know I'm late getting to this, but I had fun making a little lolcats memorabilia (linked to my blog) of the event from photos taken by several of the attendees. (I didn't go, sadly. It looks like a good time was had by all, though, despite the inanity of the place.)
Posted by: Marko | August 9, 2009 10:27 AM
Coffee → mouth → keyboard!
Posted by: Fletch | August 9, 2009 1:14 PM
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 9, 2009 1:39 PM
The Four Horsemen and One Dinorider of the Apocolypse
Posted by: The Rev | August 10, 2009 8:25 AM
I can tell you about the only "incident" I saw. A group of young atheists were standing by an exhibit making jokes about the placard which said how poison dart frogs are only poisonous because of what they eat, and how the hell does that have anything to do with Creationism, when a jerk-ass christian came over, slapped on of the guys on the back so hard I cringed, and said "You know (hehehehe)... your jokes really aren't that funny!"
One of our group said "Why don't you keep your hands to yourself, sir." And the guy smirked and walked away. Where was security when that happened? It was minor, but still the tension was awful and it did alarm me.
Also, a posse of about 12 mennonite women and men cut the line to enter the museum in front of me. I was pretty cheesed. Other than that, it was completely low key. Everyone behaved well.
Oh, my favorite thing I witnessed: there was an exhibit of Adam and Eve sacrificing two lambs to god. The lambs were skinned completely, and blood was dripping down the altar. There was a christian family with a small girl in front of me. The little girl wailed "DADDDY!!! WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE PUPPIES????" Her father said "Sweetheart, it's an ALTAR." She said, "But... but they're BLEEEEEEDING!" She looked positively stricken. Her father just kept repeating "Yes, sweetheart, it's an ALTAR."
Posted by: ysbaddaden | August 10, 2009 10:17 AM
Looks like a triceratops would make for a nice ride
Its jugal protects the naughty bits.
Posted by: ShadowFace | August 10, 2009 10:39 AM
I'm so stoked that my hat is all over the internet! I had just come out of their "Dinosaurs are Dragons" mini-movie theater when i saw PZ on the dino and I HAD to give him the hat. It was amazing. After PZ dismounted and everyone went upstairs, a fat security guard came down past everyone, presumably because he'd heard there was one of thosedarned atheists on the dino. Even Ham's blog goes off on how the sign was clearly posted.