…and this is a 
I'm currently at Edwin and Helen Kagin's house, 15 minutes from the Creation "Museum" — we'll be heading off to the event around 9am, but first we have to be fed, and the Kagins are infamous for stuffing their guests. I may have to waddle through the theme park.
We have 285 people signed up so far. There is some concern that we'll strain their parking, especially if mobs of creationists try to tie up spots early. If there is a problem, people can legally park along the county road leading to Ham's Folly, as long as you don't block access. We also have an agreement with a local farm 2 miles away to let people park there; if worst comes to worst, we'll let people know where to go and will shuttle them back and forth.
For a little crowd control, the Creation Theme Park has also told us they are setting up a table and tent — it's nice of them, but I suspect they are more concerned about making sure chaotic milling crowds of atheists don't choke up parking or the entrance. Congregate there, please. If Kool-Aid is served, however, I recommend that you don't drink it.
I have heard from a lot of people that they want to get a photo of the dinosaur with a saddle. I should mention that last I heard, it was no longer there — it was out for maintenance. However, in an amusing coincidence, a van full of godless atheists on its way to Kentucky last night passed a trailer carrying…you guessed it.
It's an omen. My correspondent tells me the entire van erupted in laughter, which is precisely the response we're looking for. If you're coming, remember: don't get angry, laugh instead. We are going to be a merry, cheerful band of atheists.
I won't be hauling my laptop through the museum, so I won't be live-blogging it, unfortunately. I will be using my iPhone to twitter now and then, so feel free to follow along on my account, or better yet, I've suggested that everyone twittering this should use the hashtag #CreoZerg. That link should give you a growing kaleidoscope of short reactions to our visit.
I will be posting photos on Twitter. They won't be the greatest — just stuff shot with my iPhone camera — but it'll give you all a taste.
I'll also be putting together a summary post this wekend.
Comments
Posted by: John M | August 7, 2009 7:46 AM
Should I pray there is no DoS attack on Twitter today, or just hope there isn't :-)
Posted by: EdW | August 7, 2009 7:47 AM
Godspeed.. err, Dawkinspeed.
All the best to the intrepid atheist horde!
Posted by: Ryan | August 7, 2009 7:48 AM
See you in an hour & a half
Posted by: Dancaban | August 7, 2009 7:52 AM
Wish you well as you journey into the valley of Gwangi.
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 7:53 AM
Beer in the fridge,twitter joined( I have a feeling their server might get pharyngulated lol),all set to go !! May your day be peaceful and fun !
Posted by: Marcos Vinicius | August 7, 2009 7:54 AM
I wish I could be there with you guys. Sometimes I wish Brazil had a creation "museum" so that I could go there... No, not really. We're better off without one.
Posted by: BobbyEarle | August 7, 2009 7:55 AM
The dinosaur with a saddle was out for maintenance.
This is easily the most hilarious thing I have read. Such a strange universe the Ham lives in. Enjoy yourselves!!
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 7, 2009 7:55 AM
Blast it, I have a funeral to attend today, so I get to miss the fun. I'll have to see what I can tonight.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 7:55 AM
Created a third Twitter account for the zerg watching / commenting. Expect lots of typos.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 7:57 AM
At 9 o'clock I'll be in a dentist's chair. I'd much rather be laughing at creationists.
Posted by: Augray | August 7, 2009 8:00 AM
Have Fun! I wish I could be there with everyone. And if someone can keep their eyes peeled for the Archaeopteryx model, I'd appreciate it. I've got a photo of it somewhere on my hard drive, but any additional details would be appreciated.
Posted by: Carole | August 7, 2009 8:03 AM
Hope you all have fun. Wish I could be there, but am in the middle of the Irish Sea.
Not in the sea though, you understand.
Posted by: Holbach | August 7, 2009 8:06 AM
I wait with bated breath for the eventful activities and scenarios. There will be intellectual slaughter!
Posted by: Wowbagger, OM | August 7, 2009 8:07 AM
Damn it, I'm going to have to go to bed eventually; no doubt right around the time you get inside and start laughing your asses of at the colossal inanity before you.
Still, reading through the tweets will give me something to do tomorrow morning (my time).
Posted by: Dave | August 7, 2009 8:09 AM
This is very exciting.
Posted by: Britomart | August 7, 2009 8:11 AM
Best wishes from all of us on Undernet #atheism, now how do I post that to Twitter?
We wish we were there, but I think if all of us who wished we had joined you actually were there, well that would be way too many for them to welcome!
Have fun, be good, and take lots of pictures for us!
Thank you kindly.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 8:11 AM
Heh. And Ham himself is indisposed... How lucky for 'em, all in all...
Still, mebbe they should ship all the 'T-Rex was a vegetarian' stuff outta town for a day or two, too... possibly the buff animatronic gay porn stars sacrificing dinosaurs to their god, too, while they're at it... and... umm...
Ah, hell, probably the best move 'd be just to relocate the whole thing to a storage unit in Mexico for a few days. But what are ya gonna do...
Posted by: Jenngnome Project | August 7, 2009 8:14 AM
I'm subscribing to the twitter as we speak. remember guys, people all over the world will be watching on how you guys conduct yourself as well as be interested in the reconnoissance you come up with behind enemy lines!
Good luck! May you be blessed by his noodly appendage! RAmen!
Posted by: bobxxxx | August 7, 2009 8:19 AM
The creationist thugs in charge of the Museum of Insanity have dogs and guns, so don't laugh too much.
It's interesting timing that Ken Ham (the world-class idiot and child abuser) and the dinosaur with saddle (proof these assholes couldn't possibly be more stupid) will be missing on the same day PZ and his minions visit there.
Posted by: Richard Eis | August 7, 2009 8:20 AM
Say hello to Tom Estes The Troll for me. He is apparently going to meet you then run away.
Posted by: Sigmund | August 7, 2009 8:21 AM
Out for maintenance?
Rubbish. They've been starving the poor beast into a ravenous condition ready for the atheists arrival. He's been kept in a coconutless cage for the last few weeks and fed nothing but photocopied pictures of PZ, Dawkins, Dennett and Harris.
Are there no depths to which those creationist won't stoop?
Posted by: Marie the Bookwyrm | August 7, 2009 8:22 AM
So they have to send a dino out for maintenance? Isn't that suspiciously scientific? Oh, wait; I forgot. Technology is good; science is bad. So they're not being, y'know, hypocritical or anything. (Although I do wonder why they can't pray it back into perfect condition.)
Ah well, have fun gang. Can't wait to read about it.
Posted by: francois boisvert | August 7, 2009 8:26 AM
Godspeed!
Posted by: Michael | August 7, 2009 8:29 AM
I do hope everyone goes in with an open mind.
Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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August 7, 2009 8:32 AM
I am reminded of the banner flown over Ming the Merciless' wedding in the 1980 Flash Gordon movie.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 8:32 AM
How much maintenance does a non-moving fiberglass statue, that is housed indoors, need? Don'tcha just luuuuuv the LFJS*.
*(Liars for Jeebus Society)
Posted by: Wowbagger, OM | August 7, 2009 8:33 AM
Response 1 of 3: Perhaps you might want to expand on that comment somewhat, just so we're clear.
Posted by: Tom's crew | August 7, 2009 8:33 AM
We're there already.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 7, 2009 8:34 AM
There is the open mind where new science is looked at and examined. As a professional scientist, I use that every day. But no science will no be found at the creation museum. That is a building dedicated to fiction, as there is no evidence for creationism. Then there is the mind so open the brains fall out. That describes creationists.Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 7, 2009 8:35 AM
"I do hope everyone goes in with an open mind."
Minds open to what ?
Posted by: Rosario Andrade | August 7, 2009 8:35 AM
I can't wait to hear how it all went!!!!! Hope to have some news when I come home later on!...
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 8:39 AM
Add to that the fact that Ham seems to be absent from the place today, and an interesting, if somewhat embarrassing picture for the creationists emerges...:-)
Posted by: Roger K | August 7, 2009 8:40 AM
E.V.: I think Ken Ham explained that the triceratops with the saddle was a kiddy ride. Then again, why should anyone believe ken ham?
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 8:41 AM
Will Windy (Wendy Wright) be there? I'd love to meet her. It's amazing what Disney can do with animatronics these days.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 8:41 AM
Let's hope there aren't people's minds scattered all over the ground from all that openness.
Posted by: pikeamus | August 7, 2009 8:42 AM
Wow, so many tweets under the #CreoZerg thingy it's going to be hard to keep up. I hope those not present calm down a bit when it gets going so those that are there don't get too drowned out.
Posted by: Randallphobia | August 7, 2009 8:43 AM
I've never wanted a Twitter account until now, but I'm going to be so busy today that it would be pointless.
Please make your post tomorrow as detailed as possible.
For those that haven't seen it, here's a report from November, 2007 by the awesome sci-fi author & blogger John Scalzi's trip through the museum after his reader's called his bluff about going & sent him money.
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2007/11/12/your-creation-museum-report/
Posted by: Monado, FCD | August 7, 2009 8:43 AM
Have a lot of fun, everyone, and be good. Remember to recommend the research about how morality is built in genetically.
Is it just a coincidence that Twitter suffered a Denial of Service attack yesterday?
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 8:47 AM
Good point, already happening.
Need a forum to live-vent and comment though !!
Should we use this thread, or the one that will not die maybe?
Posted by: RamblinDude | August 7, 2009 8:48 AM
Say hi to Fred and Wilma. Have fun!
Posted by: JafafaHots | August 7, 2009 8:49 AM
I haven't been this excited for a web event since I watched the mars rovers land.
Posted by: Jason A.
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August 7, 2009 8:49 AM
[embarassed] What's a Zerg?
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 8:50 AM
I have a feeling you're all going to be turned away for "security" reasons. If the creobots are dishonest enough to send the saddled 'ceratops into hiding...
Posted by: Michael | August 7, 2009 8:50 AM
Well I guess by open mind I mean just that - an open mind. Of course by an open mind I don't mean simply accepting anything you hear. I guess what I mean is not prejudging the creation museum before you actually visit it for yourselves. For the record I haven't visited the creation museum and I probably will never visit it (especially since it is half way around the world from where I live - Australia)
Posted by: daveau | August 7, 2009 8:50 AM
Monado, FCD @38
I'd hazard a guess that it is divine intervention; as Jebus can't handle all that science.
Have fun! (jealous, jealous...)
Posted by: btj | August 7, 2009 8:50 AM
The Cleveland Freethinkers are going to the Darwin exhibit at the Great Lakes Science Center on Sunday at 11:30, if you have time for a trip north and need to detox.
Posted by: Monado, FCD | August 7, 2009 8:51 AM
A.) What's a Zerg?
B.) The dino probably needed re-painting, conveniently to prevent photo-ops for you.
C.) Saddles were invented much more recently than 6,000 years ago (I'm to lazy to look up when) and stirrups only about 600 years ago. [Does it have any?] But I'm guessing that History Isn't Their Strong Point.
Posted by: Crudely Wrott | August 7, 2009 8:52 AM
I'm off to work for the day, dang. And just an hour north of Ham's Folly.
I'd much rather be part of the invasion but duty and need for lucre (clean and well earned) demand otherwise.
Y'all have a fine day and don't forget to be have. If you can't be have then just be polite.
I'll be checking in for the breathless descriptions as soon as I get back home.
Have fun and don't forget to write!
Posted by: Ray Moscow | August 7, 2009 8:52 AM
Enjoy!
We hope to make a similar visit to the smaller Creation museum in Portsmouth (UK) one of these days -- http://www.genesisexpo.co.uk/
Posted by: Roger K | August 7, 2009 8:56 AM
The term "Zerg" means to swarm of swamp a location or person. It originates from a Srategy game called Starcraft, made by blizzard. In which the Zerg are a vicious insectoid race bent on swarming the entire galaxy more or less.
Posted by: RamblinDude | August 7, 2009 8:56 AM
the Zerg are hive-like creatures from the video game "Starcraft."
Posted by: Jeff S | August 7, 2009 8:56 AM
How I wish I could have gone.
If I was Ham I would've made sure my schedule allowed me to be there and I would have greeted everyone from atop a horse in a dino costume.
Posted by: HumanisticJones | August 7, 2009 8:57 AM
If you want a good way to keep up with all of the #CreoZerg tweets check out http://twitterfall.com . You can input search terms that it will then use to create an auto-updating feed. I've got it up in a window on my second monitor so that I can follow the action while stuck at work.
Posted by: Steve in MI | August 7, 2009 8:58 AM
Woo hoo! I'm on my way, decked out in tasteful atheist Flair. I'll see all 284+ of you shortly.
FWIW, I blogged about my expectations here. We'll see tonight whether it lived up to every expectation. I expect to be in awe all day. And I have a nice, quiet corner of a tasteful little gay bar all picked out, where I can detox afterwards and write about the experience.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 8:59 AM
Oh please Michael. It's Ken Ham museum. We all know what is in it and what Ham is pushing. It's garbage. If PZ or the other zerglings finds it to be different than that I'll take it in to consideration.
I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 7, 2009 9:00 AM
You fail to see the point. PZ has seen the museum on video tours. The purpose of this trip is to laugh at their stupidity. There is no science there. There is nothing to learn, except how the creationists think. Creationism is a religious idea without any evidence.Posted by: Charlie Foxtrot | August 7, 2009 9:11 AM
I'm sooo looking forward to reading everyone's observations. Put your links to your blogs and photos here and I'll follow every one - promise!
If I was going I'd be looking for the opportunity to find a parent trying to indoctrinate some poor child in some BS, so I could stand behind the parent and do all the classic silent eye rolling, head shaking and frown-y faces :)
Have a great time, everyone!
Posted by: SC (Salty Current), OM | August 7, 2009 9:14 AM
Thanks, HumanisticJones @ #53!
Take care and have fun, all!
Posted by: rootbeer | August 7, 2009 9:19 AM
A little something on the subject
And godspeed everyone :) If y'all stay calm no matter what, you (we) have nothing to fear.
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 9:21 AM
@ HumanisticJones,
ah man,that link is a godsent !!
It was getting out of hand......
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 9:23 AM
If someone could create a blogroll of those who visit and comment on their blogs, or even just those who don't visit but who comment on their blogs, I'd love to see it posted here.
Posted by: Wowbagger, OM | August 7, 2009 9:28 AM
Thanks seconded, HumanisticJones. Twitterfall is a very useful creature.
Now all I have to do is stay awake - it's night-time in Australia. Still, I've also got the cricket to listen to while I'm glued to the screen. And we've bowled England out!
Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi!
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 9:32 AM
For 102, too !
Moar pics from the scene please !!
Posted by: Charlie Foxtrot | August 7, 2009 9:32 AM
Ohhh man, gotta get to bed. Sad to think that I'll be sleeping through all the fun :(
I hope everyone posts verbosely, it's all we antipoedians will have!
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 7, 2009 9:34 AM
I do hope everyone
goes in with an open mindswitches off their critical faculties before entering. - MichaelFixed for you. No charge.
Posted by: Wowbagger, OM | August 7, 2009 9:35 AM
I have a feeling I'm not going to bed for a while. But that's okay; I've got nothing planned 'til about 4pm tomorrow so I can sleep in.
Posted by: John Salerno
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August 7, 2009 9:37 AM
I am irrationally excited to follow this on Twitter today! :) I've never really used Twitter much before, but now I see its value. :)
Posted by: Ryan F Stello | August 7, 2009 9:37 AM
They must have meant that it was going to be out for maintenance in the very near future (curious, I didn't know that statue was animatronic and needed servicing at all).
At least we know that they know what parts of their theology is embarassing.
I'd ask why they can't admit that out loud.
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 7, 2009 9:40 AM
Creos to left of them,
Creos to right of them,
Creos ahead of them,
Quote-mined and slandered.
Into the Folly of Ham,
Rode the three hundred.
[With apologies to Alfred Tennyson]
Posted by: Zeno | August 7, 2009 9:42 AM
Uh oh. Even before PZ sets foot inside the Creation "Museum" he's started to talk about "omens". He's already being influenced by the superstition field emanating from the "Museum". Look out, PZ! Beware!
I'd pray for you, but I've lost the knack.
Posted by: Alverant | August 7, 2009 9:43 AM
Good luck! I recommend recording the whole thing. That way if something (FSM-forbid) happens you can prove you didn't start it.
Posted by: Tern | August 7, 2009 9:45 AM
Use #CMTour on twitter to get a filtered view of people actually attending
Posted by: Jo | August 7, 2009 9:45 AM
I can't believe nobody mentioned the Kool Aid reference yet - hilarious! :)
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 9:47 AM
Excellent. Am now following you on '#creozetg'*...
(/*Yes, I'm kidding. Don't everyone go looking there, now.)
Posted by: AJS | August 7, 2009 9:52 AM
@ Ray Moscow, #49:
If you're doing the Portsmouth one, put me down. Well worth catching the train for that.
Posted by: HumanisticJones | August 7, 2009 9:52 AM
It just occurred to me that this would have been the most epic thing if there were 300 registered attendees.
Hamxes - "Unlike the cruel PZ Myers, who demanded that you think, I require only that you believe. "
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Hamxes - "Come PZ Myers, let us reason together. It would be a regrettable waste. It would be nothing short of madness for you, brave scientist, and your valiant zergs to suffer hell. All because of a simple misunderstanding. There is much our methodologies could share."
PZ - "Haven't you noticed? We've been sharing our methodology with you all morning."
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 9:53 AM
Pretty funny how many people are following @PZMeyers in the #CreoZerg
Posted by: Religion™ Brand Brain Staples | August 7, 2009 9:53 AM
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
Smooth sailing, everyone! :)
Posted by: Morgan | August 7, 2009 9:55 AM
The Zerg rush, for reference.
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 9:58 AM
Pretty embarrassing, really !!!
Or are they all creos lol...
Posted by: Anti-pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 10:03 AM
Best of luck for your visit; receive herewith an anti-papal blessing for your endeavours!
Papa Mal the 666th
PS I hope the triceratops with the saddle having been pulled out for "maintenance" isn't an omen for some other "surprises" that might be waiting for you at the World Centre for Piglet Rapine.
Posted by: toth | August 7, 2009 10:04 AM
Man, I so wish I could be there, instead of being stuck in the office. Have an extra laugh on my behalf!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 10:05 AM
Nope they should know better
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 10:08 AM
Today the Creation "Museum," tomorrow Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church!
Posted by: Chemist | August 7, 2009 10:09 AM
RE: Comment #5
>Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 7:53 AM
I have a feeling their server might get pharyngulated lol),all set to go !! May your day be peaceful and fun !
Their site was down until 10:00 AM with only a large, bold font "It works!" being displayed on main page. All other pages could not be accessed. Then, at 10, their heavens broke forth with joy and praise to their god.
Maybe some anti-dinosaur computer geek in the PZMyers contingent helped them fix it??? ;-)
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 10:15 AM
I only wish Kent Hovind could have lived to see this day. Sniff. Choke.
Posted by: truthspeaker | August 7, 2009 10:15 AM
Stay safe and have fun! And be nice to the people directing traffic. That's never easy with a big crowd.
Posted by: Carl | August 7, 2009 10:18 AM
Man and dinosaurs coexisting peacefully... it's a bit like believing "the Flinstones" was based on a true story then. So don't forget to sing the theme song!
Posted by: bootsy | August 7, 2009 10:19 AM
That photo is great. It makes me feel sad for an inanimate object, a fake triceratops loaded onto a truck and sent out as a tool of deception. It's being used to close young minds, while the rebuilt fossils at an actual natural history museum are meant to inspire. Kind of like that Hamas kids' show that used a puppet to urge suicide bombings. (Except that Palestinians have an actual struggle which has led some of them to do horrible things. Ken Ham and his ilk are not being oppressed by fossils, except in their tiny minds.)
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 10:19 AM
(I tried logging in but the "sign in" page takes me to some spanish log-in page)
I don't have twitter but am following via tweet grid. I wanna see pictures!
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 10:22 AM
And now I cannot log in at all. It's a moveable type page and says my ID does not exist. Did I miss the memo about needing to re-sign up?
toni
Posted by: DR K | August 7, 2009 10:22 AM
You are all increasing the likliehood of your damnation.
Repent before it is to late
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 7, 2009 10:24 AM
If you go to visit the Portsmouth Creationist musuem, make plans to do other things in Portsmouth as it will only take a couple of hours at most to go around.
Luckily there HMS Victory across the road.
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | August 7, 2009 10:25 AM
WTF IS THAT INFERNAL TWEETING NOISE???
MAKE IT STOP!!!!
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 10:26 AM
Fear not too much, Dr. K.
I'm reasonably sure that, despite your heresy, Odin will be merciful with you when you die.
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 10:27 AM
It's like the atheist version of the first moon landing.(Well, except the moon landing was the atheist version of the moon landing. But you get my drift.) Or maybe Woodstock, only with reason instead of music and drugs. Or the falling of the Berlin Wall.
I have a feeling this will be one of those "historic divide" events. Things are going to change, and it's going to be dramatic, and everybody with a brain is going to know it.
This is the moment. Man, I wish I'd been able to be there.
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 10:27 AM
I'm having trouble with Twitterfall - no #CreoZerg are showing up at all. Do I need to have a Twitter account to watch it? I'm thinking no, because the Trends tweets show up, but not any of my search terms. Hmm. Someone help? Please?
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 10:29 AM
Dude, that boat sailed LONG ago. I'm pretty sure it was unmoored sometime around 4:30 AM on day 4 of a New Orleans trip.
Posted by: ex-anonymous | August 7, 2009 10:30 AM
Remember, donations to the Catholic church if this goes well.
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 10:31 AM
Yi. #Creozerg: '208 results since you first started searching'...
(...like about a minute ago...)
Take it away, Andy, Sting, 'n Stewie...
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 10:31 AM
I don't think so. I tested it on a machine I have never signed into Twitter on and it works just fine
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Posted by: bootsy | August 7, 2009 10:32 AM
Damn, Dr. K. Can we get a Damnation Countdown Clock(tm) up and running on some site somewhere?
How many minutes do you lose by eating pork and shrimp? And how many do you gain by condemning a nine-year old for having an abortion? We need to know this.
Posted by: Rob the Lurker FCD | August 7, 2009 10:35 AM
Everybody sing!
Posted by: truthspeaker | August 7, 2009 10:35 AM
Odin was renowned for many different qualities, but mercy was not one of them.
Posted by: Fleegman | August 7, 2009 10:36 AM
Damn, I hate the proxy here at work. Imagine not letting us access Twitter!
Can anyone post comments to this thread? Headlines of what's going on? I feel so left out of the action!
Posted by: Desert Son | August 7, 2009 10:37 AM
Hmm, having trouble signing into typepad this a.m.
Regardless, have a great time at Ham's Folly, y'all! I'm sorry to miss it, wish I could be there for the camaraderie and the laughs. Take care, safe travels, can't wait to hear all about it!
No kings,
Robert
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 10:37 AM
Hmm. I am using IE6 (company-mandated), perhaps that's why I can't hack this 21st century newfangled stuff.
Posted by: OneHandClapping | August 7, 2009 10:38 AM
stogoe, I'm having the same problem. I am trying to follow but nothing is coming in. Anyone have any ideas? The website isn't helpful for troubleshooting...
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 10:40 AM
Shhhhhhhhhhhh...
I was trying to make him/her feel better about his/her future.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 10:42 AM
Damnation troll&trade is concerned for our souls. Isn't that so cute? Da boogey-man is gonna get us fo'bein' badcalling Ken Ham & his museum silly and ignorant.Posted by: Gregg | August 7, 2009 10:42 AM
Those of you having problems with Twitterfall... I expect it is a firewall issue. I don't know specifically for Twitterfall, but I bet the site uses a dedicated channel, which most firewalls prohibit by default.
Posted by: RamblinDude | August 7, 2009 10:42 AM
Wonder if "The Daily Show" will pick this up.
Posted by: Sven DiMilo | August 7, 2009 10:43 AM
@103: Or, just listen and pat your foot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbiBaVe6I24
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 10:49 AM
I can't believe that it's a firewall issue, because I can get the GI Joe feed in the Trends sidebar if I want, and tweets show up for me on that. It's only when I use the Search function that nothing shows up.
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 10:50 AM
Ha! I'm with Dr Evolution badges...
I'm with Dr Evil... Are you with Dr Evolution?
Posted by: Rey Fox | August 7, 2009 10:53 AM
Why, it's almost as if...they're embarrassed by their own beliefs! I wonder if they'll be hurriedly taking down all the "Second Law of Thermodynamics" signs too.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 7, 2009 10:53 AM
Dino gone? Ride the hot atheist/freethinker of your choice. More fun, better memories.
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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August 7, 2009 10:54 AM
*envious*
Posted by: Rorschach | August 7, 2009 10:54 AM
Im starting to think that Twitter thing is overrated...
Posted by: Desert Son | August 7, 2009 10:56 AM
Pope Maledict:
Oh, those are outstanding! Awesome!
No kings,
Robert
Posted by: Bench | August 7, 2009 10:59 AM
Ding ding ding ding ding!
"Twitter: bringing you the information firehose from every device and to every orifice."
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 10:59 AM
This is the first I've ever bothered with Twitter, and it's only because I really wish I was there in person and I'm not. Too bad twitter.com is websensed and twitterfall and other aggregators seem to have a problem with completely outdated browser software...
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 11:00 AM
Reason number 726,000 for why Bastion kicks ass.
Posted by: LS | August 7, 2009 11:00 AM
Are there any volunteers to help clean up at the farm after everyone leaves should it be necessary?
Posted by: deang | August 7, 2009 11:11 AM
I thought they were proud of the biblical "evidence" that they claim supports the notion that humans and dinosaurs coexisted, and yet they're removing a stationary, saddled Triceratops to avoid it being mocked? Yeah, that is why they're really doing it, not for "maintenance". If it was for maintenance, why couldn't they just have a repair person come in and fix it up onsite? They know they're ridiculous and they're embarrassed about it; that's why they removed the dinosaur with the saddle.
Posted by: Christophe Thill | August 7, 2009 11:13 AM
Please, please, PZ, when the visit's over, gather everyone on the car park and sing the Flintstones theme all together! And let someone film that!
Posted by: truthspeaker | August 7, 2009 11:15 AM
For those of you disappointed with Twitter, try to catch Conan O'Brien's bits making fun of it on the Tonight Show. They're hilarious.
Posted by: Bench | August 7, 2009 11:18 AM
"In the year threeeee thooooousand... YouTube, Facebook and Twitter will combine to form the world's biggest time suck, called YouTwitFace."
Posted by: impatient | August 7, 2009 11:18 AM
More evidence Twitter is a jerkoff magnet. Trying to follow the Twitters from the CM but the signal-to-noise ratio is so low I gave up.
Does every atheist asshole in the universe have to chime in with an "I'm watching too!" or "good luck!" or whatever worthless inanity just to feel included?
Shut the fuck up and let the people inside the "museum" tell us what's going on! I don't give a fuck you're watching too! Jebus! Get a life!
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 11:18 AM
Photosynthesis? Epic fail...
A brief summary of an inane Creo sign, photographed & "twitpic"'d by Jennifurret:
So for the intervening day (and how was it supposed to be a "day" if there was no sun?) we suppose the plants just sat around, vegetating?
PMaL
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 11:25 AM
(Still cannot log in properly--what's this moveable type? What happened to typepad or typekey?)
Anyway, for those of you who doubt that I am not one of those wackaloon homeschoolers.. I showed the picture of the velociraptors(?) and people mingling together, to my dino loving 13 year old and I explained what was going on and why. Her response:
Uhh, no. That did not happen. What? Did they just stand there and let the carnivores pick meat off their bone? Please.
So, I am, in fact, doing my part to corrupt the young minds of this world!
Posted by: Ray | August 7, 2009 11:25 AM
Re: Maledict666 @130
You think that's bad? look at the bottom of the photo. Plant's didn't have DNA until day 5???
Posted by: Marcus Ranum | August 7, 2009 11:27 AM
C.) Saddles were invented much more recently than 6,000 years ago
That looks like an australian trail saddle. Perfect for a dino, but fairly modern. And are those girth-straps authentic nylon web?
I particularly like the use of a buck strap on the back of the saddle. I didn't know dinos bucked transitioning into a canter, but then there are apparently a lot of things I didn't know about dinos.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 11:30 AM
Looking over my shoulder, she just saw the tweet about the sign "what did dinosaurs really eat" and how "before adam sinned, dinosaurs were vegetarians".
Her response:
"That makes no sense!"
:)
Posted by: SC (Salty Current), OM | August 7, 2009 11:31 AM
Tried to find on YT. Came up with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbSwSlP4Yc
They stole my shtick! :):
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/06/your_friday_dose_of_woo_going_beyond_hom.php#comment-1722601
Posted by: nigelTheBold
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August 7, 2009 11:33 AM
And now may I present "A Joyous Dirge for the Beliefs of Dr. K":
My life is mine
I refuse to bow
To the petulantly divine
As I hasten my damnation
I scorn the moronic
In the here-and-now
Free thought is an intoxicating tonic
As I hasten my damnation
I dance with jubilation
On the corpse of belief
That suffocates this once-great nation
As I hasten my damnation
It's difficult to care
Or wallow in fake grief
For something that was never really there
As I hasten my damnation
Posted by: Pope Maledict DCLXVI | August 7, 2009 11:42 AM
Ray @133: LOL, I missed that howler! Obviously the DNA got put in later, you know, when teh Cosmic Designer was busy faking all the geological, astronomical, and paleontological evidence for us to find nearly 6000 years later. Riiiight.
I have to agree with impatient @129: the S/N ratio on twitter appears to be disappointingly low, frequently about 50 posts from different people, all pointing to the same picture. This is a particularly scary one:
So many books, so little knowledge.
This is the entrance to the same bookshop, which looks like Myfanwy the pterodactyl escaped from the Torchwood hub and has found a Harry Potter-esque perch:
Humans and dinosaurs together!
Meanwhile in much happier news, my countrymen are busy slaughtering the English in the cricket! Huzzah!
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 11:53 AM
Yes, it is getting old, the tweets are all the same...
and would someone please tell me why I cannot log in?
Posted by: Madrizzle | August 7, 2009 11:54 AM
Can't wait to hear all the reports. Should be a blast!
btw guys i JUST started a brand new Atheist social networking site...
Please pop by and give it a looksie
http://atheistabyss.ning.com/
Posted by: «bønez_brigade»
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August 7, 2009 12:04 PM
@Bench [#121],
This makes me think of the firehose scene in UHF.It's a handy tool for those not physically there (e.g., me), though.
Posted by: Capital Dan | August 7, 2009 12:05 PM
My brain feels smashed, and I'm not even there.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 12:06 PM
No twitter for me either. You guys that went need to tell us if Tom the Troll showed up?
Damn, the two biggest fun events of the summer & I don't get to go to either. *frown* The Sock Summit is in Portland, OR, opens today.
Posted by: Capital Dan | August 7, 2009 12:08 PM
I completely forgot about Tom the Troll being there. Haven't seen anything on Twitter about him.
Posted by: littlejohn | August 7, 2009 12:10 PM
POLL ALERT!
Should "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency, asks NBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
You know what to do.
Posted by: cyan | August 7, 2009 12:14 PM
Here is a photo of PZ before going inside
http://twitpic.com/d140y
What is on the tie he's wearing?
Posted by: XD | August 7, 2009 12:15 PM
@145
Old poll is old. And with over 15 million votes, the result is beyond the reach of even Pharyngula.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 12:16 PM
I wonder if they serve pork or shrimp in the museum lunch room? Devils Food cake, Better Than Sex brownies? We need to see the menu. ;p
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 12:17 PM
Is PZ dead? Has the t-rex killed the giant squid? He hasn't twittered in over 3 hours!!! (yes, sarcasm, but more updates would be nice)
Posted by: Fleegman | August 7, 2009 12:18 PM
So do you think any creationists in disguise have smashed up the place, yet?
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 12:21 PM
I think I'm just going to follow this here for the rest of the day. That Twitterfall feed is boring the shit out of me.
Makes me want to paraphrase Andy Warhol: "In the future, everyone will be famous for 15 microseconds."
Twitter: A way to make otherwise intelligent people seem like victims of attention deficit disorder.
Note to Self: Resist all things Twitter.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 7, 2009 12:25 PM
It is a crocoduck. A fabled creature much talked of by creationists who think the fact the species does not exist, and that there are no fossils either, proves evolution does not happen.
The tie was designed by Josh Timonen, and only Richard Dawkins and PZ have one as far as I am aware.
Posted by: Geoffrey of Ballard | August 7, 2009 12:29 PM
Is this Ken Ham or that classic Apple commercial from 1984?
→ Photo Link
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 12:30 PM
In these instances yes 100%, but both my wife and I have found if targeted correctly Twitter can be used to market yourself fairly successfully and cheaply.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 12:31 PM
Because TypePad changed their format (they're now "moveable type" and hosed something during the change.
Posted by: Sigmund | August 7, 2009 12:33 PM
I always though the Hamm-ster reminded me of another famous antipodean (well in that direction!) hominid.
http://www.donsmaps.com/images5/hobbitflores2.jpg
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 12:35 PM
@Tis: I'll say, even when I go to "sign up" I get a forbidden error. So I cannot even re-join.
And, in the picture with Ken Ham's face, what are the people doing with their arms in the air like that? They are all crossed?
Posted by: bsk | August 7, 2009 12:35 PM
Dr. Evolution... oh the humanity!!$%
Posted by: LanceR, JSG | August 7, 2009 12:38 PM
"Adam sinned you you could enjoy bacon."
This is *so* my new tagline.
Posted by: Fred Mounts | August 7, 2009 12:49 PM
Why is stupid fucker extraordinaire Pete Rooke posting? We need better security guards around here.
Posted by: mattb | August 7, 2009 12:57 PM
I can't wait to read your summary!
Posted by: Interrobang | August 7, 2009 12:58 PM
I was just telling a friend of mine from England about this trip, and he said to me in chat "'Ken Ham', eh? Roll up for the mystery meat." Indeed.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 1:02 PM
Fred Mounts, the Rookie uses fake e-mail addresses to get around the blocks. Just ignore the droppings. PZ will clean up when he gets a chance. But it might be a while, he is kind of busy right now...
Posted by: Medievalist Jon | August 7, 2009 1:05 PM
I wonder if any of the CM regulars will try to retaliate by going to college.
Posted by: Matt Penfold | August 7, 2009 1:05 PM
I do like how Rooke goes on about respect, totally oblivious to the lack of respect he shows circumventing his ban.
I guess it is one of those Christian things. As long as he is doing it for Jesus all is forgiven.
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 7, 2009 1:12 PM
Local 12 News made a brief report, Atheists Visit Creation Museum.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 1:13 PM
@Medievalist Jon (#164) - I'd sure hope so. Unfortunately the ones who go to college probably end up at Liberty University where they "train champions for Christ".
Posted by: bunnycatch3r | August 7, 2009 1:18 PM
Just be careful. You're surrounded by crazy -anything can happen.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 1:18 PM
At the tweet: please tell me that account for rain was not found in one of the "homeschool" books? Please? Lie to me even.
(on tweet grid someone posted a photo of a page that "accounts for why it rains")
Posted by: Bone Oboe | August 7, 2009 1:26 PM
Sven @113 beat me to it. I was thinking of this short clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwuW2-gW3Mw
From "Bring On the Night."
Posted by: Gregg | August 7, 2009 1:34 PM
#169:
Let me guess: It is caused by Jesus weeping at the sin in the world.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 1:38 PM
@Gregg:
NO! It's because God needs to water his earth.
Hope this comes through:
http://img195.yfrog.com/i/siyo.jpg/
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 1:39 PM
Thread, meet winner.
Posted by: JanitorforChrist777 | August 7, 2009 1:42 PM
I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 1:43 PM
Ken Ham posts on the AIG blog about the atheist visit:
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/aroundtheworld/2009/08/07/atheist-group-visits-creation-museum/
It's not an angry post (guessing he's happy for the money & attention) but still awfully misguided. He says PZ and other atheists "oppose anyone who believes in god", which is ridiculous. It would be foolish to harass the huge number of believers who keep their faith private. It's the numskulls who proselytize, evangelize, legislate based on mythical books, build big phony museums, and lie about science that deserve opposition!
Posted by: LanceR, JSG | August 7, 2009 1:46 PM
Both of them!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 1:46 PM
damn
Posted by: Rick R | August 7, 2009 1:47 PM
Brock- "It's the numskulls who proselytize, evangelize, legislate based on mythical books, build big phony museums, and lie about science that deserve opposition!"
But this is what Ham means by "anyone who believes in god". If you aren't doing those things, you aren't a True Xian™.
Apparently, mindless boundless arrogance is "christlike".
Posted by: Izam | August 7, 2009 1:50 PM
Anyone know anything about the guy who got harassed because of his shirt?
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 1:50 PM
mmmm, okay.... since no one here wants anyone to be injured, you just go on and pray your self-righteous little prayer, asshat. And while you're talking to your imaginary invisible friend, tell him about your sin of pride and what a despicable wanking douche you are.Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 1:53 PM
@179: The twitterfall for #cmtour noted that the guy with the "offensive" shirt argued with the creationists and was kicked out.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 1:53 PM
@Janitor: What? I've been following the Twitter feeds and so far only two things have allegedly transpired:
1. One visitor got harassed (presumably by security) for a shirt that said "there probably is no god, so stop worrying and enjoy your life".
2. "Someone with a video camera just got kicked out".
Detail hasn't emerged on either one yet. But I don't see how either one warrants "praying for safety".
Why the hell are you so paranoid?
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 1:54 PM
I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum.
It seems that this dim witted fool cannot understand that being an atheist that automatically leads one to being violent and a murderer.
Not really a surprise, this person has not made any statement that is worthy of being thought about.
If man is five
If man is five
If man is five
Then the devil is six
Then the devil is six
And the devil is six
And the devil is six
And if the devil is six
Then god is seven
Then god is seven
Then god is seven
Posted by: bastion of sass | August 7, 2009 1:55 PM
JFC777 wrote:
Oh, you don't have to worry your pretty lil head.
Atheism, while contagious, usually leaves those who get it much healthier than they previously were.
Posted by: Geds | August 7, 2009 1:58 PM
It's good to see CrapmopperforChrist777 showed up. I wouldn't have known how to react to the visit to the Creation "Museum" if he weren't here to tell me how to think.
Maybe he can tell us where his hew bestest buddy, T.Estes, is...
Posted by: tsg | August 7, 2009 1:58 PM
I'll be sitting here twiddling my thumbs at you.
Posted by: SC, OM | August 7, 2009 1:59 PM
PZ('s pic) says he
http://www.answersingenesis.org/events/creation-college-3/speakers/mark-looy
was the one harassing the kid.
Posted by: GoodDrLaura | August 7, 2009 2:01 PM
@145 Should "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency, asks NBC. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
That poll has 15 million votes and has been closed. I think it was botted.
Posted by: lose_the_woo | August 7, 2009 2:02 PM
That statement to me is a great example of their flawed rationale. What if it were "oppose anyone who believes in bears", or "oppose anyone who believes in water"?
They always presume the reality of their deity. Of course it's not ridiculous to "believe" in bears or water. There's good reason to know both are a part of reality. Where's the good reason to think deities are real? Moreover, what about all the good reasons to think that they are not! I just hate the way they twist language.
They reason like children.
Posted by: Holbach | August 7, 2009 2:05 PM
Janitorinadrumwithchrist @ 174
No, you mean all the insane people vegetating at the museum. They surely are not working with their brains, but fitting out dinosaurs with saddles to vegetate the moronic hordes who come to be amused with nonsensical claptrap. Good grief, what is the human brain evolving into?
Posted by: KrateKraig | August 7, 2009 2:06 PM
Oh I wish I could be there with you.
I think Comedy Central should have sent a film crew with you.
RamblinDude's comment @ #40 made me spew Mtn Dew all over my keyboard. Thanx!
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:07 PM
Someone up-thread asked for headlines from the twitterfall. Here are a few:
mephikristiles #CreoZerg #CMTour Only passed 1 "Hell is Real" sign on way to creation museum so far. Should I be disappointed or pleased.
DoubtingFoo RT @hemantmehta ...guy w "offensive" shirt argued w creationists.Got kicked out.A filmmaker got it on tape.Got kicked out.#creozerg
lerogue RT @pzmyers Proud to say we had NO I'll behaved atheists...only incidents were pushy security guards #creozerg
nastasie RT @pzmyersDerek Rodgers hassled for his shirt #creozerg
nojesusnopeas #creozerg: The "How to turn 'Jews' into 'Greeks'" nonsense explained: http://nojesusnopeas.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-turn-greeks-into-jews.html
nastasie RT @pzmyers Rodger's shirt said "there probably is no god, so stop worrying and enjoy your life" #creozerg
more later...
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 2:09 PM
Wotta twit... And oh, are the rumours true? There's video?
(/Mark Looy is a yutz... Now stop worrying and have a beer...)
Posted by: jpf | August 7, 2009 2:13 PM
Brock #182: "Why the hell are you so paranoid?"
Probably because people like Janitor (is pretending to be?) are being fed propaganda that tells them evolutionists are mass-murderers waiting to happen (that's from the people who are running the Creation "Museum", BTW).
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:13 PM
more "headlines" from the twitterfall:
holydust So, did "Tom's Crew" or the infantile-but-way-less-threatening Tom himself actually appear to any Pharyngulites at the museum? #CreoZerg
OldCola with all those #atheits around ? RT @pzmyers: You didn't miss anything-the only surprise was how intellectually dead the place was #creozerg
Fupi98 RT @jbcrail "Dragon Hall Bookstore #CreoZerg http://twitpic.com/d1ate " So wait, christians believe Pterodactyls breathed fire? Um, what??
Kimbo_Jones RT @nojesusnopeas: #creozerg: The "How to turn 'Jews' into 'Greeks'" nonsense explained: http://nojesusnopeas.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-turn-greeks-into-jews.html
Ibis3 RT @Kimbo_Jones: learned so far: ice age had no ice in it, plants before sun, & the word "museum" needs to be used more sparingly #creozerg
SpontOrder #creozerg stop whining about the money, they spent the museum spent it all on extra security.
the_sun_and_i Where's the person that got video of the Rodgers/Looy incident? Anyone know if they're planning to upload anytime soon? #creozerg
Posted by: Capital Dan
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August 7, 2009 2:15 PM
Blimey! TypePad is giving me fits today...
Posted by: Bob L | August 7, 2009 2:17 PM
Janitor for Christ @ #174 @ "I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum."
So your version of God has it as some kind of blind, witless magical spirit that you command around with some magical ritual and not the all powerful, all knowing entity as commonly presented in Christianity?
Posted by: Brownian, OM
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August 7, 2009 2:17 PM
Liar.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:21 PM
So are you guys fed up with twitterfall yet? And this is with me picking just a few of the juicier bits and ignoring the "I signed up today just for Creozerg!" posts.
SpontOrder #creozerg Anyone staying for the ear and eye presentation at 3?
BirdstrikeAlert #creozerg glad to see Derek isn't dead at the hands of crazed fundy guards, that boy needs a leash or something, I swear
BigDumbChimp Looks like things are winding down. Now what was I doing again..... #creozerg
or_mabinogi It's been fun wading through it, but I'm a little disappointed #CreoZerg hasn't yet hit Trending Topics.
antangil http://yfrog.com/6gs3rj a bit more of the propaganda from #creozerg
seelix That was a beautifully constructed, impeccably "designed" load of crap. #creozerg
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 2:22 PM
@Captain Dan--
I FINALLY got it to let me re-register, but now it hasn't sent me the confirmation email. It really is messing up big time.
Posted by: Cobbett T. Cornwell | August 7, 2009 2:25 PM
In Idiot America, Charlie Pierce described
it as 'an English riding saddle'. Of course, that
was when the museum first opened; they may have
spiffed it up over the years. K. Ham also seems
to have been deemphasizing the dinosaur-with-saddle
exhibit for quite awhile--it is likely enough that
even devout Christians have found this hard to swallow.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 2:27 PM
@jpf (#194): Ha! My favorite line from that AIG link:
"We were not created through millions of years of violence and death, as evolutionists believe; God did not create us to be violent!"
Haha -- which is exactly why the same god spent so much of genesis spreading plagues, committing genocide, destroying cattle, tearing families apart for no reason, and murdering children and babies.
"Answers in genesis" my ass -- they're willing to throw out half of the fucking story to fit their agenda!
Posted by: Capital Dan
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August 7, 2009 2:27 PM
Wow... I can't believe the hassle I just went through in trying to follow Chimpy. I had to try three different applications with a brazillion different searches.
Let's just say, I'm glad Twitter (kinda) held together for the CreoZerg.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:27 PM
more from twitterfall -- just keeping the twitter-free in the loop:
antangil #creozerg http://yfrog.com/c9mgkjj that Adam... what a doofus.
jimpict this is really funny: RT #Creozerg I once was a creationist and back then I loved this song: http://camelswithhammers.com/2009/08/07/religulous-evolution-redefined/
antangil #creozerg more Adam-bashing: http://yfrog.com/15utkzj
HombreMoleculos Is that Dr. Evolution picture available on a T-Shirt? #creozerg
[twitter referring to pic of PZ, seated, stroking a cat]
Headbhang @antangil #creozerg Someone needs to add "Bacon" to that After Adam's Sin list.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:30 PM
brado RT @pzmyers: The pompous twit hassling Rodgers was none other than mark looy http://twitpic.com/d1w15 #creozerg --favourited
[see link http://twitpic.com/d1w15 for photo]
Posted by: SC (Salty Current), OM | August 7, 2009 2:32 PM
Beyond (but I'm sure people without access appreciate your culled bits). I thought it would be more like live blogging but where you could read several people's all in one place.
I look forward to reading about it on the blogs, though.
Posted by: Hypatia's Daughter | August 7, 2009 2:32 PM
I was tracking down a post on Twitter (even this Luddite got it to work!!) to "No Jesus, No Peas" and found this video, which is really good.
Militant Atheist
ASIDE: Wow, I got the link to work in preview!! Hot Damn!!
Some kind squidsole posted that Foxfire had an HTML toolbar add-on. Downloaded it and it has been great. As my hubby can attest, me getting any download to work is a proof that miracles are real.
Posted by: Primewonk | August 7, 2009 2:33 PM
JanitorforChrist777@174 wrote: "I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum."
Yeah, well it isn't the evil, vile, liberal, heathen, atheists who have the nasty habit of torturing and killing folks in the name of god.
Posted by: James Sweet | August 7, 2009 2:33 PM
Heh, I was gonna pimp my blog by linking to the Greeks->Jews post here, but I see Lynna has already done it for me. Thanks! :)
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 2:34 PM
@Lynna: That Camels with Hammers site is posting good highlights, so you may as well link there instead of re-posting.
If you're part of CwH, then my bad. Thanks regardless.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:34 PM
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've done in days, taking tweets and *re-posting" them. Sheesh.
lerogue @antangil #creozerg "Cosmic Aging"? http://yfrog.com/5gmygbj -- *insert "Scanners" explody pic here*
NeuroPunk @antangil So we have Adam to thank for weed...err I mean weeds??? #CreoZerg
antangil #creozerg how bout a bit of flood-type humor? http://yfrog.com/3oppdj Lava? Really?
lewd_intentions If it's all Adam's fault, why don't men have periods? #creozerg
antangil #creozerg And this one explains it all. If you can believe this, the rest will follow. http://yfrog.com/6tawpcj
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 2:38 PM
I never dealt with twitter before. After today, I doubt that I will bother with it again.
Can one be a neo-luddite and still use teh intertoobz?
Posted by: joeblow | August 7, 2009 2:38 PM
@janitorforchrist
Why are you praying for the safety of the workers? Surely your god knows what's going on there and if he feels like stepping in to protect anyone surely he knows how. Why would he need you to ask him?
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:39 PM
Brock @210: Thanks. I'm gonna stop now. This is too time-consuming and redundant. I did enjoy the ironic aspect of posting tweets for about twenty minutes... but now the joy is gone.
James Sweet, yeah, I blog-whored for you, which makes me your pimp.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 2:39 PM
You even missed the one I did specifically for you
Posted by: Travis | August 7, 2009 2:39 PM
After reading about 1000 tweets I had to stop. Too much effort for too little. It was interesting once PZ and a few others got out but I am going to wait for peple to start condensing the info a little more.
Posted by: Holydust | August 7, 2009 2:42 PM
@Janitor:
Take your victim complex and shove it. Our kind don't blow up abortion clinics, send death threats, or rub our hands in anticipation of seeing others burn in hell for eternity.
It just stuns me how Christians really think they're in danger from any of us. It's so backwards. It's so blindingly backwards. I don't even have words for how ridiculous the very idea is.
But when we're raised to think atheists are hateful and violent, I guess that's hard idea to scrub from your brain.
If you want to live in a bubble world here God is great and atheists want to rip your head off and eat your flesh, be my guest. But don't bring your bullshit prayers around here. No one at that museum was in any danger today. At least not on YOUR side.
Posted by: ben | August 7, 2009 2:44 PM
Silly, don't you know god lets bad things happen to good people who don't receive the right kind of prayers from people they don't even know?Posted by: Felix | August 7, 2009 2:46 PM
Janitor,
do you think you are a good person? I'm sure you've heard about the Good Person Test that Ken Ham's good friend Ray Comfort constantly uses when he preaches for your Lord. I'm also sure that this test can be found all over the web and the books that Ken Ham's store sells. The gist is, neither you, nor me, nor anyone else alive on this planet now or ever befor (except for one) was ever good. Your prayer is reduntant.
Posted by: MikeM | August 7, 2009 2:47 PM
And I'm praying to the Happy Monkey that PZ eventually sends you to the dungeon.
Believe it or not, that pretty much makes us even. I'm sorry for me.
Posted by: Kelseigh | August 7, 2009 2:49 PM
Say, isn't T.estes the troll telling a bit of a fib or did "Tom's Crew" actually number over 300?
I have to ask, seeing as Tom has a bit of a problem with the truth. And the Truth.
Posted by: Gregory Greenwood | August 7, 2009 2:49 PM
Perhaps Ken Ham is not attending because he is concerned that such a concentration of horrible, godless, atheist heathen types in one place might open a mystical portal straight to hell! Of course he took his entirely believable dinosaur with a saddle in order to avoid this utterly compelling proof of creationism being defiled by hell spawn. Or eaten when Cthulhu manifests and posseses PZ's body. I mean its all a very sensible precaution really. Especially after that prophetic vision in cartoon form that Jen had. When one is dealing with the incarnate evil of the atheist horde one cannot be too careful you know.
*desperately attempts to maintain straight face, fails miserably*
Posted by: Brownian, OM
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August 7, 2009 2:51 PM
That's the Bible's version of God too, Bob L. Remember, the Spirit of the Lord can't tell a Hebrew from an Egyptian unless the former paints a badge of blood on the the lintel. What good is it being one of God's chosen people when he can't be bothered to remember who you are?
And let's not even think about how effective one's prayers to the deity Magoo must be. You just know it's gotta be an endless sitcom trope wherein God accidentally gives the new legs to the paraplegic and the perfect spinal chord to the amputee, has the highschool beauty queen fall in love with the gay boy who wanted the summer stock position that went to the football captain, while all the while Jesus and the Holy Spirit hatch a zany scheme to distract Mr. Roper from cashing the rubber rent cheque.
Tsk, tsk. That Jesus. Will he ever learn?
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 2:53 PM
Rev BDC @215:
Fucking Hell and Damnation! Well, crap. Are you going to shoot it to me now or do I have to descend once more into Twitterfall hell to retrieve it?
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 2:56 PM
Never doubt the power of twiddling. I mean, me, I'm told if you twiddle yer thumbs sincerely, and rilly rilly mean it...
...The Great Pumpkin himself will show up to pay for the physio bill when they come to untangle yer thumbs...
(/I want to believe.)
Posted by: Dahan | August 7, 2009 2:56 PM
Posted by: Spiro Keat | August 7, 2009 2:57 PM
Posted by: JanitorforChrist777 | August 7, 2009 1:42 PM
I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum.
Jesus Swept! (see what I did there?) You are a moron.
Posted by: Richard Smith | August 7, 2009 2:58 PM
@Brownian, OM (#223):
Dang! Been a long time since I've caught an episode of Trinity's Company!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 3:00 PM
Nah I just sent one that said "this is fort Lynna" because you seemed to be tiring of the whole thing.
that's it.
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 3:03 PM
I don't find reposting tweets to be a waste of time, as my work blocks Twitter.com and Twitterfall hates IE6, the only browser I'm allowed to use at work. I wouldn't have known about the guy who got kicked out if you hadn't reposted.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:04 PM
Yep. I may have to slowly build up to true twitter-worthty stamina.
I do like the "fort Lynna" concept.
Posted by: Proffeather | August 7, 2009 3:04 PM
"Trinity's Company...Thats wrong on so many levels..Do it again
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | August 7, 2009 3:05 PM
Urban Dictionary specifies that
Methinks the participating horde of ilk minions has been dissed.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:06 PM
Just to prove I can take it, here's a tweet from PZ:
pzmyers Face moment on #creozerg : dinos labeled Jurassic (2483BC), Cretaceous (2483BC)...love the accuracy and the pointlessness.
And here's one from Jennifer:
jennifurret apparently the museum took a photo of my license plate cuz i have liberal bumper stickers #creozerg
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:10 PM
more from PZ:
Also, Edwin Kagin got me officially declared a Kentucky Colonel. You will now address me as Colonel Dr PZ SUH!!
Posted by: sillysighbean | August 7, 2009 3:16 PM
PZ, If the pictures come out lousy, don't blame the iPhone, it takes wonderful pictures. Best of luck to you and the horde; ridicule makes me giddy. Keep it clean!
Posted by: Hank Fox | August 7, 2009 3:17 PM
Ken Ham wasn't there because he didn't want to be photographed by people who would make fun of him and his idiot "museum."
Also: Negative publicity costs him money. Because pictures become more interesting and newsworthy when they contain human faces, he was afraid his picture would make the story worthy of national news coverage:
"Atheists Beard Ken Ham in His Creation Museum Den"
Posted by: robinsrule | August 7, 2009 3:18 PM
JanitorforChrist777:
According to your holy book you are a hypocrite:
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Matthew 6:5 KJV
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:18 PM
@230
Glad to have been of service to someone. Still finding the whole exercise a little Dada, a little surreal, and a whole lot of postmodern-meta-literature weird.
I can report that Safari loves twitterfall. All cascades of mostly-useless tweets are properly displayed. And Rev BDC has a great pic for his identity (there's a term I'm missing here for a Twitter identity -- I'm outted as a gnubee, as Smoggy would say).
Posted by: Vole | August 7, 2009 3:18 PM
Someone calling himself T Estes comes onto the site and talks a load of balls. This is surely an instant giveaway, but you're all behaving as if he were a real person. Personally I'm expecting to see postings some time soon from his Irish chum Pat Enis. Perhaps I do too many dirty crosswords.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 3:19 PM
I have a feeling the whole building was a faraday cage (to an extent) because not only were there fewer tweets than I thought would be, but almost every single picture sent by phone is blurry or very badly taken.
I don't think it's the phones either. My phone takes excellent pictures and it's a craptacular att&t brand.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:24 PM
There would have been more tweets from inside the Creation Museum, but apparently the building works as a faraday cage and phone reception was blocked.
Posted by: Nubbin | August 7, 2009 3:24 PM
Saw a tweet early in the day where someone was warned not to put their pics online if a kid happened to be in the shot.
@cafewitteveen said "Security told me that if pictures I take of children at museum turn up online it's a fellony".
That's false. Anyone in a public place, even kids, can be photographed.
Now, I'm lucky enough to have never knowingly met a real fundie, so am I way off base if I have (weak) suspicions that he may have equated atheist with an increased likelihood of paedophilia? More likely it was just some ignorant boneheaded security guard on a power trip right?
Posted by: strangebrew | August 7, 2009 3:25 PM
Not very honorable these creotards are they?
It would be thought that IF Ham believed his hustle he would have been delighted to escort PZ and crew around his exhibit...Explaining....or lying...as he does to the more gullible...how this nonsense is supposed to gell with Genesis.
It would have been a media scoop...'Ham explains creationism to a militant atheist'....etc etc...but obviously someone felt they were not up to being grilled to explain every lie in the 'exhibits' by a secular and scientific intelligence...questions might get awkward and if the media were there it could get rather ugly for the delusion.
The dino ride was similarly removed from view because it is the butt of all jokes even amongst xians...it is now beyond even the lies of Ham to be part of the scenario...last time mentioned in interview Ham tried to dismiss it just as a fairground ride.
Methinks the tide has turned on him about the depiction...before he got away with folks having stories from creotard preachers in home towns being supported in a 'museum' by such nonsense but now folks are a little less convinced by the theatrics....
That he...and the dino.... 'suddenly' had an important meeting/maintainance elsewhere just means he bottled it and instead of being a christian for martyrdom adopted the more familiar creationist ploy of charlatan for jeebus.
Not sure...not clear yet... but it seems that T Estes also bottled it...leaving the true dinosaurs like Looy in charge of the xian decorum demanded by fear of exposure.
Poor liddle trooper got all miffed that reason was shone in a 'museum' by a tee-shirt slogan....fear knows no prudence...hope the supposed film of the incident gets all the attention it deserves...that is if the film is in one piece and not decorating a creationist crapper!
Posted by: gypsytag | August 7, 2009 3:25 PM
what's really interesting is that only 820,000 or so have visited the museum in the 2 years its been open.
that's really not a lot.
its actually quite a positive thing i think. perhaps there aren't as many nutters out there as we thought.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 3:25 PM
At least one twitterer noticed THIS on the drive home, north of Cinci. I used to live out that way, and yes, it's as ridiculous as it looks.
There used to be a site called Jeeebus (3 E's) loaded with hilariously 'shopped photos of the statue (like this), but apparently it's out of order for a while :(
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 3:30 PM
Isn't there something in the bible about wasting tithe money on frivolous things like this? That a church is supposed to be humble, meek, and receptive.. not loud, proud, and deceptive.
insane..
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:32 PM
Saw that tweet, and several from Rev BDC that followed. Rev explained the horse-pucky factor.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 3:33 PM
Yeah I answered that when he sent it up. I'm betting more on the security guard being over zealous but I wouldn't discount a smidge of them feeling the other.
But I bet it's mostly a power trip, intimidation thing.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 3:33 PM
Well I guess by open mind I mean just that - an open mind.
Since "open mind" is idiomatic, not literal, expression, that tells us nothing at all, other than that you seem rather dimwitted.
Of course by an open mind I don't mean simply accepting anything you hear.
Why "of course"? In my experience, many people mean just that by it. Or rather, they mean accepting anything said by certain "teachers".
I guess what I mean is not prejudging the creation museum before you actually visit it for yourselves.
That's not an "open" mind, its an empty one.
Just what sort of prejudgments are people not supposed to make? You were asked to clarify but instead provided a moronic tautology. Are they, for instance, supposed to be open to learning that Ken Ham has really refuted evolution and/or demonstrated that humans and dinosaurs co-existed, despite all the evidence to the contrary? What if someone had a Hungarian Australia Museum that had displays showing Australia being colonized by Hungarians, whose descendants are the dominant population today? Would you have to visit the museum yourself before prejudging it? Or are you just a standard issue hypocritical creationist git?
Posted by: Travis | August 7, 2009 3:33 PM
Ahh, Brock, yes, the touchdown Jesus. It just screams class dosn't it? I hope to one day see it in real life.
Posted by: ex-anonymous | August 7, 2009 3:36 PM
JanitorforChrist777@174 wrote: "I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum."
In vain. We have already arranged matters with the Catholic church and Satanists. Your doom is sealed. And you were naive enough to be fooled by our godless atheist cover.
Posted by: francois boisvert | August 7, 2009 3:39 PM
@243 - "That's false. Anyone in a public place, even kids, can be photographed."
Sure, but isn't the museum a private property? Just the same, I think it'd be in poor taste to put up pictures with children in them, no?
On a separate note, anyone know if we can expect a blog post from PZ tonight?
Also I have cookies if anyone wants any.
Posted by: Bob L | August 7, 2009 3:41 PM
Brownian, OM @ #223: "That's the Bible's version of God too, Bob L. Remember, the Spirit of the Lord can't tell a Hebrew from an Egyptian unless the former paints a badge of blood on the the lintel. What good is it being one of God's chosen people when he can't be bothered to remember who you are?"
Let's not forget striking barren the wife of his would be patriarch of his planed master race because would be patriarch claimed his wife was sister to save her from being gang raped. That made the patriarch's marriage in the eyes of "the all knowing, all powerful, prefect" God incest.
You got to wonder how fundys like Ham and Janitor for Christ fit that square peg the round hole but consider "created in God's image"; 'tard god for 'tards.
Posted by: Camels With Hammers | August 7, 2009 3:45 PM
"This has got to be the dumbest thing I've done in days, taking tweets and *re-posting" them. Sheesh."
Hey, don't knock it! I got my blog got 16 times it's normal traffic today (and growing) by just culling the best tweets and putting them in one convenient blog post.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:46 PM
latest tweet from PZ:
pzmyers #creozerg Didn't see the sign that the trike was for 12yo and under until I dragged my creaky bones atop it. Very high and a bit dangerous.
[several other tweeters (term?) noted that they got pics of PZ in the saddle)
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 3:51 PM
I'll be praying for the safety of all the good people working at the museum.
Wow, it worked! I bow down before the humble janitor who saved the workers from the evil atheist horde!
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 3:52 PM
mephikristiles Heard some of the believers mutter under their breath, though most people were polite... except the fundie line cutters. #Creozerg #cmtour
RobsterFCD Leaving the "museum". Told PZ I wouldn't have come if it weren't for the #creozerg and he apologized. Class act.
islanddave yes, PZ rode the dino. Classic. After conf tonight will ul vid & pics #creozerg
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 3:54 PM
My but the subject here has gotten surreal.
When the enforcer is away, the asshole shows up.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 3:55 PM
Dr. Isis is a brilliant person, but she seems overly sensitive to the point where she finds misogyny everywhere she looks.
- besides, douche has a better sonic and visual quality when used as an epithet as opposed to enema. Suppository is right out.
Posted by: nankay | August 7, 2009 3:57 PM
So,Douche=something useless. Hmm...seems like an appropriate term to me.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 3:59 PM
@Rooke: 'Douche' is mysogynist? I thought males could douche too. Or maybe that's enemas. Never tried it, but ew. I'm sure plenty of gay guys are into it though, so it can't really be mysogynistic.
As I understand, douching after unprotected male-female intercourse is a Very Bad Idea, as it could propel the sperm into crevices (like the cervix) where it hadn't yet reached.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 4:01 PM
Peter Rooke:
Only you can make an outdated form of feminine hygiene sound so creepy.
Posted by: Sanction | August 7, 2009 4:02 PM
@Pete Rooke #258
Thanks for sharing, you irrelevant fuckwit.
There, I avoided reprehensible misogyny.
Posted by: Truculent | August 7, 2009 4:02 PM
I just got back from the Creation Museum with the SSA. I have never been in such an area of Concentrated Ignorance.
I posted my pictures in my in Picasa, feel free to view, they are kinda shaky as it is a Cell Phone Camera(HTC Android Dev. Phone)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Truculentgaming/CreationMuseum?authkey=Gv1sRgCIuY5Kuljb3hlwE&feat=directlink
Posted by: Nubbin | August 7, 2009 4:02 PM
@248 @249 Thanks for replies.
@253 "Sure, but isn't the museum a private property? Just the same, I think it'd be in poor taste to put up pictures with children in them, no?"
It's private property but photographer's rights are only restricted to things such as military facilities and where people can expect privacy e.g. in their own homes or the museum restrooms.
I seriously doubt he was taking pictures of children deliberately(!), but when you take pics in public, sometimes strangers, including kids are just there as part of the background or a partial head or shoulder in the corner, and putting those online isn't a problem is it? If it's just a bit of hair or a figure in the distance? I agree that it would be poor taste if they are any more prominent than that of course. Anyway that wasn't the point, it was that the security guard was out of line. It's not up to him whether a photographer chooses to exercise good taste. I have to wonder whether he similarly warns the thousands of good wholesome christian folk.
Posted by: francois boisvert | August 7, 2009 4:03 PM
So Creation museum ridicule having lost its charm, the atheist community has turned its interest towards feminine hygiene products.
Posted by: dinkum | August 7, 2009 4:06 PM
What a douchenozzle.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 4:06 PM
I was conversing with Dr. Isis of the ScienceBlogs stable and she too is of the opinion that the term "douche" is reprehensible misogyny and is to be avoided wherever possible (which is almost everywhere).
Even if this argument from authority were valid, it wouldn't have any bearing on the accuracy of E.V.'s charge. (And it might help if you could even grasp that "douche" in this context is short for "douchebag".)
I too shall pray for safety in the world tonight.
Swell, an ineffective action aimed at obtaining a semantic incoherency.
Posted by: Yip Barkham | August 7, 2009 4:06 PM
In addition to the Giant Jesus, there is a huge roadside cross in Indiana, info here, for example.
Posted by: Lana | August 7, 2009 4:06 PM
PZ riding a dinosaur! He's got his Christmas card this year. I'm so sad I couldn't go. I'm going to repeat my Woodstock experience and pretend I was there.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 4:08 PM
Actually, douche as a term of insult is short for douche nozzle, which implies that the subject of said insult has a penis roughly the length and circumference of the plastic tube used to inject the solution. I see nothing misogynistic about that - misandric, yes indeed, but not misogynistic.
Posted by: Pierce R. Butler | August 7, 2009 4:08 PM
Somebody please explain to me: if everything was all peaches 'n' ice cream before The Fall™...
... then what is that saddle made of?
Posted by: francois boisvert | August 7, 2009 4:09 PM
@ Nubbin : Thanks for the clarification. I didn't mean to suggest that he was going out of his way to photograph children of course.
They probably have to warn Catholic priests though.
Ok, 4 posts in 20 minutes, It's time for me to go get a life. I'll be right back.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 4:09 PM
Janine - Isn't the troll cute when he get's all righteous?
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 4:09 PM
@Rooke: I remember that 80's douche commercial, and I don't understand how it's any more 'degrading' than deodorant commercials telling men they stink and will only get dates by using the product they push.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 4:09 PM
So Creation museum ridicule having lost its charm, the atheist community has turned its interest towards feminine hygiene products.
Pete Rooke isn't part of the atheist community, he's part of yours, asshole.
Posted by: stogoe | August 7, 2009 4:10 PM
Some time ago on this blog I accused Walton of sewing miniskirts out of human skin, I think out of some misremembered trollfest in the dark reaches of last year. This thread, though, has got me convinced that that was incorrect.
I apologize, Walton. I remembered wrongly. It was not you but Pete Rooke who wanted to sew miniskirts out of human skin.
Posted by: robinsrule | August 7, 2009 4:11 PM
Another one who can't follow the goddamn rulebook.
Posted by: Nubbin | August 7, 2009 4:11 PM
@Francois "They probably have to warn Catholic priests though."
Hahaha! Maybe he was dressed as one!
Posted by: Rob | August 7, 2009 4:12 PM
Actually, douche is short for douche-bag. It is a derogatory term used exclusively or largely to refer to males who are so useless/worthless as to only be good as objects used to clean out a woman's vagina.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 4:12 PM
First, I know I am making a mistake by tossing scraps to the troll. I am sorry.
Your name is still on the dungeon list. Given that you have already shown that you have a disconnect with reality, I have no reason to think that you have been given permission to post again. It is also very funny that you are posting when PZ is in no position to delete your droppings.
I am having a hard time recalling when you had anything substantive to add to any subject. But what do you expect from me, I am gruesome. (Waves to Patricia and Nerd.)
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 4:13 PM
You have heard of the legendary Naugas, have you not?Posted by: DGKnipfer | August 7, 2009 4:13 PM
Thanks for the laughs PZ. I wish the battery in my real camera hadn't died, but I still got a cam phone picture of us for my Facebook page. And my really tall 12 year old son (Alex) says thanks for the laughs too. We had a great time.
Posted by: Gregg | August 7, 2009 4:13 PM
@#276
... then what is that saddle made of?
Synthetic materials, of course.
Posted by: Rob | August 7, 2009 4:15 PM
Would that be the Naugas reclinerensus or the Naugas lazyboyensus?
Posted by: AJ Milne | August 7, 2009 4:18 PM
Can't tell. Both are hyding.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 4:18 PM
#295
Either. Some say when they ran out of naugas, they used unicorn hides.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 4:18 PM
@Pete Rooke:
If you had been paying attention, the "museum" has a petting zoo--the camel is part of that petting zoo.
@Truculent
I so wish that wolf picture came out clearer--I would have horked it. That was a nice shot.
Posted by: tsg | August 7, 2009 4:21 PM
And how many naugas died to make it?
Posted by: JBlilie | August 7, 2009 4:22 PM
PZ: I'd love to follow your twitter link:
http://twitter.com/pzmyers
But, it's almost impossible to read. I love the background of the cephalopods (cuddling cuttlefish, aren't they?) but the colors (black and dark blue) are the same as the text. No contrast, no read.
How about a nice red cephalopod on a pink coral background (and retain the blue/black text)?
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 4:28 PM
Naugas are an endangered species.
[center][b][i][size=4][color=red]SAVE THE NAUGAS![/color][/size][/i][/b][/center]
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 4:29 PM
@Pete Rooke:
Are you fucking serious? Go to their website "douchebag" and see for yourself.
They have a petting zoo, and it ain't no Museum.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 4:30 PM
Put up or shut up Pete the troll. Who told you that you were loosed from the dungeon? Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 4:31 PM
Lava as a source of water for the flud? What? Is this supposed to correlate with some Fountains of the Great Deep nonsense?
RogerS--RogerS? Where you at?
Sure, there is water in magma; it flashes into steam during eruptions. In terms of volume, though, it's not a lot of water. You're gonna need one big fucking eruption if you're gonna try and use magma as a source of water to flood land. Good luck with that.
That's almost as good as limestone-forming tsunamis.
Posted by: Richard Smith | August 7, 2009 4:31 PM
Please be kind and bow your head,
And remember all those naugas dead.
Remember all of those that died,
To sacrifice their nauga hides.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 4:32 PM
Looking at some of the posted photos, I have a couple of silly questions.
All animals were vegetarians before the fall.
Why did the big sky daddy hate plants so much, allowing them to be devoured? Why did not the animals process sunlight, water and minerals for energy?
There were no poisons before the fall.
So much for digestion. Did animals piss clear water and shit tidy piles of minerals?
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 4:32 PM
#301
You have a browser problem. PZ's twitter page displays perfectly for me. The text/table in the center is semi-transparent. One can see the cephalopods just barely showing through, but for the most part the text background is white/white-ish.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 4:34 PM
HTML failure in 302 (somehow the Firefox HTML toolbar reset itself)
SAVE THE NAUGAS!
Oh, and Pete Rooke, you're banned. Get thee to a monkery!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 4:34 PM
Let us not quibble over minor details but maintain a focus on the greater picture at hand.
Which was, before your introduction of the "misogyny" red herring, E.V.'s comment about JFC's praying:
I think not.
So true.
Posted by: E.V. | August 7, 2009 4:35 PM
Alas, the naugas are all long gone. Only ugly recliners and sofas clad in their hydes remain.
Posted by: SC (Salty Current), OM | August 7, 2009 4:36 PM
By whom?
Seems like. (There was one post about some comments about women's shoes at a graduation ceremony that I still don't understand the point of.) And isn't she a Catholic? Incongruous.
Posted by: Truculent | August 7, 2009 4:37 PM
@Rooke
The Camel was part of the petting zoo. Nothing really special I guess. There were tons of little kids running around feeding the animals.
And yes, I wish the Wolf picture came out clearer, my Phone takes nice pics if I can hold it steady, but I was laughing too hard. I think they have a picture of the wold on their site, I will look for it.
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 4:38 PM
Huh? Well then what the fuck made all the damn glacial striations in the bedrock?
Oh, and RogerS, then what does that mean for the glacial moraine that Prometheus was growing in? Is it a pre-flood deposit? Synflood? What mechanism produced it?
This is a postulation that I simply must find out more about.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 4:43 PM
No I think the fact that PZ booted your ass a while back does.Posted by: Tern | August 7, 2009 4:43 PM
#318
You do a pretty good job all by yourself.
Call security someone and get it back in the dungeon.
Posted by: francois boisvert | August 7, 2009 4:48 PM
@ anonymous #283 Wow, what a tremendous display of intellect. I'm an atheist, and I'm a little puzzled at the angst. I'm not 'one of his'
Maybe you read a bit too much into my comment? Or maybe you should get yourself some apple juice and hit the get to bed? you little ball of hormones you.
Posted by: Bob L | August 7, 2009 4:49 PM
Peter Rooke @ 318 "At 4:32 someone hijaked my moniker to defame me. This is currently comment three-hundred and nine."
That is a logically impossible statement.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 4:52 PM
It would seem that the rookie still has a disconnect from reality. So sad yet so amusing at the same time.
Posted by: Ragutis | August 7, 2009 4:53 PM
Yet, you're trolling and adding nothing substantive. Instead, you've decided to derail things with a debate on the appropriateness of using the word "douche". Run tell Dr. Isis that I think you're a fecking twat.
If your goal is to make yourself look like an obnoxious idiot, well OK, you're doing a swell job. Otherwise, all you're achieving a mild irritation of a few strangers and giving PZ a minute or two of work to do later, deleting your posts and blocking whichever way you're circumventing your ban.
Posted by: Holbach | August 7, 2009 4:53 PM
Patricia, OM
I concur with Pete Rooke's statement that the slur is not his. The same has happened to me some time ago so I can sympathize. Pete Rooke may be a religious dolt, but he does not stoop to such blatant slime slurs.
Posted by: Spiro Keat | August 7, 2009 4:55 PM
Pete the Troll @ 299
"I think not"
The first sensible thing you have posted.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 4:56 PM
@Josh: I think the Kimbo_Jones tweet was sarcasm, based off something "learned" at the creation "museum".
Part of the same message was "plants before sun", which referred to a sign at the CM listing out items god supposedly created on what days. Plants were like day 2 or 3 and sunlight was like day 4 according to the sign. Then DNA was a few days later! I'll post a pic when I find one.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 4:59 PM
http://twitpic.com/d1asf
There we go - plants created before the sun, created before DNA. HA.
Posted by: Pixelfish | August 7, 2009 5:00 PM
So...in honor of the #Creozerg, I thought I'd repost my link to the LOLCreashun pics I made from John Scalzi's trip to the same museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelfish/sets/72157621849630883/
And my Raptor Raptor gif:
http://www.utterli.com/u/utt/u-NDk3MzQ0OQ
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 5:01 PM
Oh I know. My ire was direct at the "museum," not in any way at Kimbo. Good for pointing that out, though. I should probably have made my target more explicit.
Posted by: No BS | August 7, 2009 5:15 PM
Douchebag?
Meh... weak and a bit antiseptic.
If you want to reach for a real insult might I offer the Jamican;
"Bloody bum clot"?
Posted by: Michelle R
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August 7, 2009 5:19 PM
Isn't Rooke supposed to be banned? He's pretty pathetic, coming back all the time like that. We must be his only love. It's a very sad life he has.
Oh and the guy that prayed for the safety? I bet he's all "YES! NO WORKERS WERE HURT! MY PRAYERS WORKED! PRAAAIISEE JESUS!".
can't wait for the reviews of the visit!
Posted by: Geds | August 7, 2009 5:28 PM
Isn't Rooke supposed to be banned? He's pretty pathetic, coming back all the time like that. We must be his only love. It's a very sad life he has.
Yeah, I totally don't get that. I mean, if there was a place where I walked in and everyone immediately said, "Get the fuck out," then ridiculed me, I'd stop going.
And, I mean, it's the internet. It's not like there aren't other blogs and forums out there...
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 5:32 PM
You brain dead dolt, did you read what was said at #325?
Holbach is in no position to lift your ban. Also, Holbach did not welcome you back. He was merely pointing out that an other troll was impersonating the first troll.
This is why civic discourse cannot be done with you, you do not understand words. The only reason why you are here is because PZ is busy elsewhere. Until your sad bleats are deleted, you will be mocked. Deal with it or, an even better idea, stop posting.
Posted by: Doug Little | August 7, 2009 5:33 PM
I also like that the sun was created before the stars, and that a habitable earth was created before the sun, better get your winter woolies on, several degrees above absolute zero sounds real habitable to me.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 5:35 PM
There were several comments in the twitter feed about the Creation Museum's explanation for rain, not to mention the troubling timeline of plants-before-sun.
Dawkins has posted a nice study about raindrops and flower evolution at
http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,4143,Raindrops-drive-flower-evolution-,Matt-Walker---BBC-Earth-News
Posted by: TommyB | August 7, 2009 5:36 PM
Some pics from the Creation Museum... Couldn't make it past 1pm and that was with a walk in the garden and a visit to the petting zoo.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tbrogan/sets/72157621974187480/
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 5:36 PM
Here comes PZ>, so you'd better watch out! Click on the "view full size" and check out the crockoduck tie, cephalopod, and evil atheist glowing red eyes.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 5:39 PM
@334--GEDS...
I get mocked on here too. Sometimes even very harshly. Rooke is getting their good side today. :) But as for why one might comeback? Well, for me, it's because I really am not a bad person at all, some just disagree with my educational stance. I really do believe like they do (as evidenced by this thread, I've openly mocked the same as they have, and it was not false mocking); plus, this is one of the few places that I've found that not only believe and think like I do, but that I have not been banned from (and to clarify that: I've been banned from places that "represent" a homeschooling "community" by creationist homeschoolers for calling them on the carpet about their beliefs).
I really do like it here. That's why I keep coming back.
toni
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 5:39 PM
Ken Cope, nice pic of PZ on dino! May I repost that pic on my blog about the CreoZerg? And if, so, what credit line and/or link do you require?
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 5:43 PM
Had to go out and peddle some eggs... Pete doesn't usually make remarks like the one above. The 12 year old that did will have to try harder, I don't take atheist scum as an insult.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 7, 2009 5:45 PM
Banned trolls keep breaking down PZ's door. Do they want their door broken down in return? Do unto others and all? Usually, the answer is no. And that is why they should never break down PZ's door. It just makes them amoral hypocritical common criminals. Or total fools who have no business outside of the insane asylum. One of those describes you to a tee Pete Rooke.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself | August 7, 2009 5:47 PM
PZ brought his own squid.
Posted by: Josh | August 7, 2009 5:47 PM
Who is the asshole doing the sock puppet routine?
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 5:50 PM
Rookie, I know that was not you. But it still does not negate you being an inconsiderate brain dead dolt. As for hijacking, you are not innocent of that. And let us not even touch upon the rank dishonesty you are showing by lying about your e-mail to get past you ban.
The other troll is using misogynist insults. You are just as rude.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 5:50 PM
Lynna @342, that's not my pic. I found it via the #CreoZerg search term at twitter.com which links to tons of great photos of the trip that I vicariously enjoyed from the relative safety of the Left Coast.
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 5:51 PM
No matter what Pete Rooke's status is, no one should sock-puppet him to make him.
If you are going to sock-puppet Pete Rooke, you could do a better job of it. Everyone can tell that's not him telling Patricia to fuck off and calling Janine a cunt. Just not true to form at all.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 5:52 PM
Well if typepad/key/whatevertheycallitnow would let us log in properly, or at least send us the damn confirmation email, we would know who the sock puppet was.
I still cannot get it to let me log in. I've registered, re-registered (under a different name, etc) and it still has not sent me the confirmation email and continues to give me that "forbidden" error.
grrrrr..
Posted by: Lynna | August 7, 2009 5:53 PM
Thanks for info, Ken. I'll use the photo and see if I can track down the perpetrator.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 5:54 PM
Near as I can tell, Lynna, the photographer also made the squid with which PZ is posing: http://twitter.com/healthyaddict
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 5:57 PM
You really are a deeply stupid man. Patricia is in no position to lift you ban. Also, I doubt that she would if she had that kind of power here. There is no welcoming here.
You're an idiot babe
It's a wonder you still know how to breathe.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 5:57 PM
Christ on a cracker! I said nothing about welcoming you Pete, you're banned unless you can prove PZ lifted your sentence, turned the other cheek or forgave you. Sheesh.
Posted by: foolfodder | August 7, 2009 5:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=creozerg
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 7, 2009 6:00 PM
Pete, you have no business posting here, period. There is no valid reason for you to post here. Your hurt feelings are irrelevant. Your opinion is irrelevant. You will not be reinstated.
Posted by: Sastra | August 7, 2009 6:01 PM
Welcome, Pete...
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:01 PM
Read what I have said, you dishonest fool. You are lying in order to get past your banning. And I have no idea if you are doing it on purpose or not but you do not unstand the meaning of words.
And, yes, I prefer a smart and honest person who uses rude language on me to a sniveling idiot like you.
Posted by: Ben in Texas | August 7, 2009 6:04 PM
Rooke, you are plainly feigning at misunderstanding. It's really not that clever.
Posted by: Brownian, OM
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August 7, 2009 6:06 PM
Hoo boy. Between Pete Rooke's sockpuppet and the (ostensible) original re-interpreting any denunciation of sockpuppeting as an open-armed invitation to to freely comment here, I'm at a loss for words.
Just great.
Posted by: raven | August 7, 2009 6:06 PM
The Pete Rooke name Hijacker is most likely JanitorDrumhead777.
I know who he is. He was kicked off Pandasthumb, after months of disrupting one thread after another.
Janitor has no beliefs, thoughts, ideas, or interest in whatever is being discussed. He is just a mental patient who gets off by disrupting internet forums.
He also changes IDs often, uses multi-aliases, and will steal other people's IDs. . Watch him steal mine.
Don't feed this pure troll. He is just saying weird stuff to get attention.
Posted by: Ken Cope | August 7, 2009 6:06 PM
Thanks foolfodder, that link contains a youtube of PZ mounting the trike.
Posted by: ElectricBarbarella | August 7, 2009 6:09 PM
Well, just for the record, any record, I now have two names on here that I cannot log in with--this one and GothicGyrl.
However, I state right here and now, that neither are able to be logged in with this new moveable thingy and if anyone sock puppets my name, it is not me. IP can verify that one.
I just hate that I cannot log in. For this reason.
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 6:09 PM
Hundreds of perfectly good heads just hit desks around the world. #365.
Posted by: sqlrob
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August 7, 2009 6:11 PM
Pete you moron, let's repeat this for the umpteenth time
THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT APPLY.
You were told to get the heck out, and have not. You are most likely now violating Federal law on unauthorized access to computer systems.
Posted by: spondee | August 7, 2009 6:12 PM
Petey,
It is rude to comment on a blog from which you have been banned. It is rude to continue to comment after it has been made clear you are not welcome here.
And in order for you to understand the above, I just said that with my ass. I do hope you appreciate the effort to communicate at your level.
Posted by: Brownian, OM
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August 7, 2009 6:13 PM
Nice try, Troll, but Mama Brownian didn't raise no fools. Now, what have you done with the real raven?
Posted by: Sastra | August 7, 2009 6:15 PM
Brownian, OM #66 wrote:
Heheh.
No, it's really me. I can't sign in anymore -- for some reason, it wants me to log in as PZMinion. which means I could mess with the blog. Instead of just messing with you...
I've never had a problem with Pete. Thought he could use a welcome. ;)
Posted by: spondee | August 7, 2009 6:18 PM
Bacon.
Beer.
Lesbians.
That is all.
And see In the Loop, made me laugh anyway.
*pullingoutofnosedive*
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 6:18 PM
He's right though Pete. Do you not understand that?
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 6:26 PM
Ken Cope & foolfodder:
Thanks for the links! Totally sweet. Especially PZ on the triceratops ;)
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:29 PM
Will the real half wit please stand up!
(Big mistake. The real Rookie and faux Rookie are both half wits.)
Posted by: sqlrob
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August 7, 2009 6:31 PM
#379
You have been told to go away by the administrator. You have no posting rights. You have no permission to post, therefore you are violating Federal law.
Posted by: Tern | August 7, 2009 6:32 PM
He will be deleting ALL Rooke postings
#382
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 6:33 PM
So the dino in the saddle pictured in this post was just out for a trailer ride last night, and they brought it back for PZ to sit on?
I'm confused...must be sangria time.
Posted by: Janine, OMnivore | August 7, 2009 6:34 PM
The posts of the real and faux Rookie will be deleted. I have to admit, I have moved from being annoyed to being amused here. But still not as funny as PZ on a dinosaur.
Now we have to get Coyne and Dawkins on that thing.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | August 7, 2009 6:39 PM
Pete you are a deluded fool.
He'll be deleting all Pete Rooke postings. You were not invited back here.
Posted by: Brock | August 7, 2009 6:42 PM
I'm guessing Ken Ham has more than one saddled dino, given that he can afford an animatronic velociraptor and other highly-polished bullshit attractions.
So... maybe the the dino hauled off on a trailer through Kentucky was "expelled" for being an atheist, and the one PZ rode was a True Believer(TM)!
Posted by: Ragutis | August 7, 2009 6:45 PM
Wasn't there a Star Trek episode like this? "The Trouble with Rookles" or something?
Posted by: Holbach | August 7, 2009 6:52 PM
Just to clear the air, Janine OM @ 335 expresses my stance on the matter with the errant slur ascribed to Pete Rooke, and as stated does not change his status on this thread. The two items are quite divergent and stand on their own.
Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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August 7, 2009 6:53 PM
@Ragutis: Nah, the Star Trek episode was amusing and involved cute, soothing fluffballs. This thread has Pete Rooke, the burr in your underwear.
Posted by: Rolan le Gargéac | August 7, 2009 7:21 PM
Pete Rooke #277
That sounds like a Sherlock Holmes story ! Why, oh why was the camel at the museum ?
A lemon entry my good Watson !
Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2009 7:31 PM
Wow, what a tremendous display of intellect
More so than "the atheist community has turned its interest towards feminine hygiene products", fool.
Posted by: Rolan le Gargéac | August 7, 2009 7:35 PM
Pete Rooke #309
Maybe it's not Dr Watson with the lemon entry ?
And atheist comes the greek 'theo' as in 'theology' so get the spelling right please !
Posted by: Katkinkate | August 7, 2009 7:38 PM
Posted by: Brock @ 327 "...Part of the same message was "plants before sun", which referred to a sign at the CM listing out items god supposedly created on what days. Plants were like day 2 or 3 and sunlight was like day 4 according to the sign. Then DNA was a few days later! I'll post a pic when I find one."
The plants lived by soaking up the light of god, perhaps? What I want to know is what do they mean by 'floating forest' on this poster? http://twitpic.com/d26t6/full
I've never heard of forests floating offshore.
Posted by: Julia | August 7, 2009 7:40 PM
Kentucky Fried Squid from Colonel PZ!!
Posted by: Patricia, OM | August 7, 2009 7:41 PM
I enjoy being atheist scum ever so much more than I did being a True Christian.
/Shirley Temple impression :p
Posted by: Jamie | August 7, 2009 8:21 PM
I just wanted to say I appreciate the reposted Twitter updates (thanks Lynna), since I can't access Twitter (or any picture sharing site) from work (and apparently "Camel with Hammers" doesn't work either, but it's probably something from my end). Can't wait for the actual updated =]
Posted by: Richard Smith | August 7, 2009 8:27 PM
@Patricia, OM (#398):
And of all the scum, you are the most athy!
Posted by: atomjack | August 7, 2009 8:42 PM
Dr K @92: Dude, idle threats of make-believe cursing from immaterial beings don't scare anybody. I pity you.
Posted by: Paul Burnett | August 7, 2009 9:28 PM
Katkinkate (#396) wrote: "What I want to know is what do they mean by 'floating forest' on this poster? http://twitpic.com/d26t6/full
I've never heard of forests floating offshore."
Come to beautiful Monterey, California - right off the Monterey Bay Aquarium there's a floating forest...of giant kelp. See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kelp-forest-Monterey.jpg
Posted by: atomjack | August 7, 2009 9:49 PM
Two things:
'douche' is French for 'rinse'- the lady can freshen up. Of course it's derogatory when used in a derogatory fashion. duh.
...and the posting of kid's pics is a felony? FFS, their own parents post pics on the web!
Posted by: Dr. P | August 7, 2009 9:52 PM
The perfect image of the typical hate filled zealot.The idea of your conception of the afterlife both bores the shit out of me and scares me. That you think your image is desireable says much.You're right, don't pray for me , I'm better off with you not thinking of me at all.Posted by: DominEditrix | August 7, 2009 11:09 PM
"...Part of the same message was "plants before sun"
How else did doG create white asparagus??? I ask you, is that not really, really intelligent design?? Make the high-end veggies first?? Do none of you know anything about marketing??
Seriously, PZ on a dino is the best thing I've seen all day. I just want to know if anyone tried to put the resident camel through the Eye of the Needle? [Which, by the by, was the name of a small city gate, not a sewing accessory.]
Posted by: Geds | August 7, 2009 11:17 PM
I just want to know if anyone tried to put the resident camel through the Eye of the Needle? [Which, by the by, was the name of a small city gate, not a sewing accessory.]
That's not actually the case. It's a meme that gets passed around at churches that don't want to confront some of the harder/crazier things Jesus said, especially the ones where prosperity Gospel is pushed to some degree. Apparently tour guides in Jerusalem often have to tell disappointed Christians that there is no such gate to show them.
Just another example of wishful thinking on the part of Christians with no reality to back it up...
Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2009 1:30 AM
That's not actually the case.
And how bizarre that an atheist, or anyone with a functioning brain or the ability to use google, would think it was ... that "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" could refer to a city gate.
Posted by: Owlmirror | August 8, 2009 2:21 AM
How bizarre that a Christian, or anyone with a functioning brain or the ability to use google, would think that it was atheists who were ever responsible for this misinterpretation.
http://www.biblicalhebrew.com/nt/camelneedle.htm
Interesting that the "gate" misinterpretation goes back to "at least the 15th century, and possibly as early as the 9th but not earlier". And of course, all who made the misinterpretations were Christians.
Posted by: Geds | August 8, 2009 2:35 AM
Owlmirror: How bizarre that a Christian, or anyone with a functioning brain or the ability to use google, would think that it was atheists who were ever responsible for this misinterpretation.
I think Anonymous is subtly questioning DominEdtrix's authenticity...
Posted by: Susan | August 8, 2009 4:10 AM
The photos taken during this excursion really show Ham's sad attempt to imitate actual museum exhibits. It's weird-- like a Hollywood version of history, with stage decoration meant to fool from a distance, like pretend food or a fake window in the background. It reminds me of this article from the Times Online a couple of days ago on a book about fake histories. The first paragraph must apply to anyone who seriously believes what they find there:
How to fake science, history and religion
An investigation into the invented histories of Atlantis, pre-Ice Age civilizations and cosmic catastrophes
"How to fake religions" as opposed to all those not-fake ones, of course. Historian Ronald Fritze should take the next logical step and admit they're all fabrications especially if, as he claims, "[O]bjective historians look at all the facts, guarding themselves against presuppositions, pseudo-historians choose only those that support their case."
Posted by: Knockgoats | August 8, 2009 4:59 AM
I just want to know if anyone tried to put the resident camel through the Eye of the Needle? [Which, by the by, was the name of a small city gate, not a sewing accessory.]
Come on; they just had some very small camels and very big needles in 1st century Palestine!
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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August 8, 2009 7:14 AM
Ah, you have already lost your grasp of reality. If you think PZ is my leader, you are sadly mistaken. I think for myself, unlike religiobots like yourself who follow their demented leaders. Show us hard physical evidence for your imaginary deity. Until you do so, you are a delusional fool.Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip
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August 8, 2009 11:36 AM
I don't think the "plants created before the sun" thing is much of a difficulty for YECs, since there's only a one-day gap in there. That seems to be a problem more for the "one day = a million years" types.
Posted by: Floost | August 12, 2009 2:34 AM
Are you a professional journalist? You write very well.