I was captured on the Good Atheist earlier today.
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From a scientific point of view, we can make no distinction between the man who eats little and sees heaven and the man who drinks much and sees snakes. Each is in an abnormal physical condition, and therefore has abnormal perceptions. Normal perceptions, since they have to be useful in the struggle for life, must have some correspondence with fact; but in abnormal perceptions there is no reason to expect such correspondence, and their testimony, therefore, cannot outweigh that of normal perception.
Bertrand Russell, Religion and Science (New York: Oxford University Press), p. 188.
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Posted on: October 26, 2009 12:05 AM, by PZ Myers
I was captured on the Good Atheist earlier today.
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Comments
Posted by: llewelly | October 26, 2009 12:19 AM
"Good Atheist"?
Surely that's a contradiction in terms.
Posted by: llewelly | October 26, 2009 12:33 AM
PZ, I think you underestimate the severity of the current flu season. Please see what Mike has posted on this.
See also this flu map:
www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1361
Posted by: Islander | October 26, 2009 1:26 AM
"People who know the least are the ones who are the most confident about how much they know." - PZ Myers
Put it on the Random Quote list, PZ.
Posted by: pcarini | October 26, 2009 2:45 AM
Fun interview!
I found the idea that US scientific progress was driven by fear during the Cold War to be provocative, but I was hoping that one of you would follow that line of reasoning to the same place that I did:
With the new bogeyman being Islamic terrorism, perhaps the increase in fundy ferver is due to people trying to out-crazy the terrorists, just as we tried to outsmart the commies.
Posted by: llewelly | October 26, 2009 2:47 AM
Ok, here's my favorite quote: (about 23:30)
Posted by: pcarini | October 26, 2009 2:48 AM
I'm also all for a U.S. switch to the metric system. The sooner the better, imo.
Posted by: Treppenwitz
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October 26, 2009 3:37 AM
Genre tag on the MP3: blues. Laffo.
Posted by: Rorschach | October 26, 2009 3:44 AM
I like it when PZ says he has the impression he has to write an atheist book that is funny ! Talk about peer pressure...:-) And also, that to be funny he has to get his brain in a state that he doesnt care anymore.
I think if you try to just be yourself you should be fine !
Posted by: eddie
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October 26, 2009 4:08 AM
OT but on meta-topic: There has been an update to this story, reported by bbc back in 2007. I has come to court. money quote from the rabbi is to the order of "If this is racial discrimination, then you're calling god racist.".
Posted by: scooter | October 26, 2009 4:23 AM
I enjoyed this, I'll have to listen to the good atheist more often.
Posted by: speedweasel
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October 26, 2009 4:32 AM
This one maybe owes a little to Darwin, PZ?
Posted by: Rorschach | October 26, 2009 4:53 AM
Nah, he's just been reading his commenters point out the Dunning-Kruger effect !
;)
Posted by: aratina cage
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October 26, 2009 5:58 AM
Again, thank you, PZ, for standing up for equal rights. You often cultivate such thoughtfulness and care through your words (from time 42:40):
And wow, you must be under a lot of pressure regarding the book. For encouragement, just think of all the fun you will have at the book signings we will force you to hold after you get published. I want my Pharyngula-tome autographed!
Posted by: alextangent | October 26, 2009 7:41 AM
A bit of an incoherent article from the BBC; Darwin teaching 'divides opinion'
Is that good news or bad? I couldn't make head nor tail of it.
Posted by: llewelly | October 26, 2009 7:56 AM
eddie Author Profile Page | October 26, 2009 4:08 AM:
God is racist. Well, all pre-enlightenment Gods anyway.
Posted by: CunningLingus
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October 26, 2009 8:25 AM
I know this is off topic, i've just watched Ricky Gervais in the movie "The Invention Of Lying". What struck me was how he totally takes the piss out of religion (well he is an atheist) for most of the film. His character invents a "godlike being" called "The Invisible Man In The Sky", and without giving too much of the plot away, the analogy to any xtian sky fairy is blatently obvious, and devastatingly funny. Definiteley worth 90 minutes of any rational thinkers time. In my own humble opinion of course.
Posted by: Jackal | October 26, 2009 9:57 AM
I have to disagree with the metric system thing. Instead of switching to a base only divisible by 1, 2, 5 and 10, we should change the base of our counting system to base 12. Then we could keep the English system, but it would make more sense: 10 inches to a foot, 30 inches in a yard... ok, actually the mile thing still doesn't make sense. How about we compromise? Switch to the metric system, and switch to base 12 counting.
Posted by: Lynna, OM
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October 26, 2009 12:26 PM
Thanks, PZ. That was enjoyable. You had to compete with me doing laundry and whatnot, but still commanded my attention. After a slightly rough start in the socialism/communism realm, you really got into it. The coverage of the vaccination issue was excellent.
Dealing with this blog every day has given you a broad perspective that few people can match. You can comment on the economy of Kansas, and how some voters in Kansas are shafting themselves -- and in the same conversation you can put Bill Maher's woo addiction into perspective.
It's hard for me to imagine Dawkins wanting to kill anyone over something they've written -- and that was one of the underlying points (as well as the fact that the readers you respect do not send you "I'm going to shoot you next Tuesday" letters). The point(s) didn't quite come across as well as one might have wished. I think that might have been the only example you gave that didn't come off well.
Love the podcast overall, and I'd say, "Give us more."
Posted by: eddie
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October 26, 2009 1:18 PM
Yeah, Llewelly @15. That's what makes it funny/tragic. That a Rabbi has such denial abut the plain content of torah/OT. Or maybe it's a case of 'god IS racist, but YOU'RE not allowed to call him that'.
Posted by: JJR | October 26, 2009 3:20 PM
Jake Fortin puts together a pretty enjoyable little podcast from the Great White North (he and his co-hosts are Canadian).
Posted by: garth | October 26, 2009 7:58 PM
jake's my homey. he's definitely worth a subscription.
Posted by: Kris | October 30, 2009 2:37 AM
PZ, you should be honored. You're show #69.