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Kirk and Ray get a musical…tribute

Category: CreationismEntertainment
Posted on: October 7, 2009 7:02 AM, by PZ Myers

Be warned, this tribute is a song in Satan's genre, that loud rock music.

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#1

Posted by: Teflonmonkey Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:13 AM

Mr. Crocoduck I want a banana!!!!! LMAO!!

(Incidentally does anyone know who the lady is on the panel on the far right?)

#2

Posted by: Brian English Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:19 AM

Kirk and Ray! What the fuck did you say!

Snappy, I like it. The kids will dig it I believe. Then again it's heavy metal, not hip-hop, so it's probably Gen-X like me.

The facepalm parade at the end was cool. Loved it.

#3

Posted by: kalox Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:22 AM

This is actually quite catchy in a head banging kinda way. Someone should play it on the campus that these two twits will be handing out their bastardised version of Origin

#4

Posted by: rock-biologist Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:43 AM

#1

(Incidentally does anyone know who the lady is on the panel on the far right?)

Ah, no doubt you admire her...intellect! That's Kelly O'Connor of the Rational Response Squad.

#5

Posted by: Beige Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:56 AM

That is amazing beyond words :)

#6

Posted by: $ Thelonious 386sx Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:08 AM

I think they call this "Grunge" if I'm not mistaken.

Music -> Satan -> Metal -> Grunge

However, good luck getting Grunge to admit they are descended from Metal...

Music -> Satan -> Grunge

#7

Posted by: ChaunceyBT Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:20 AM

I'm new to this, so what's with the banana? It can't possibly be as simple as I'm thinking?

#8

Posted by: AdamK Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:31 AM

I couldn't understand the lyrics, except for a word here and there.

#9

Posted by: Phodopus Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:38 AM

#7,


This is essential viewing, just google Ray Comfort and Banana.

But beware, the footage may shatter your world view ... in a way

#10

Posted by: DaveG Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:42 AM

Chauncey,

The banana's not a sexual device, if that's what you mean (first thing I thought of, what does that say about me?). Find Ray and Kirk's videos on Youtube and Ray will explain why bananas are proof of God; except he doesn't know or care that the modern banana was bred (evolved) to look that way. The heavy metal clip shows what feral bananas (could that be a band name?) look like.

#11

Posted by: Ibis3 Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:03 AM

The lyrics in case people are interested:

Lyrics

Ba-nan-a
Ba-nan-a

Verse 1
How can you be so full of it?
Credulous morons buy all your bullshit
You two are such a damn disgrace
I think its time someone put you in your place

Pre Chorus

Lies, Lies
Youve already been told
Lies, Lies
This shits getting old

Chorus

Kirk and Ray
What the hell did you say
I hear you running your mouths again
Kirk and Ray
What the fuck did you say
I hear you spewing your lies again

Verse 2

How come you two dont ever learn
Disrespecting those who dont agree, you say theyll burn
Why dont you both just go away
Well all buy you an island so you can fucking sail away
Repeat Pre Chorus and Chorus

Bridge

Mr. Crocoduck I want a banana!!!!!
--

In the video about the banana, Comfort calls the banana "the atheist's nightmare". He goes on and on about how perfectly suited the banana is for humans to eat, so this must be evidence of God's divine providence and design. He later 'apologized' when it was pointed out to him that the desert banana was a domesticated cultivar.

#12

Posted by: Ibis3 Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:05 AM

That should be 'dessert' not 'desert'.

#13

Posted by: ReaphSharc Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:07 AM

If Kirk thinks the 'Crocoduck' is a transitional form, can someone please show him a picture of a Platypus? He'll go bonkers, I tell you!

#14

Posted by: AJ Milne Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:14 AM

Ah, but our dear Misters Comfort and Cameron really should be careful what they ask for...

I mean, sure, so we haven't found a crocoduck as yet... and no worries there, really, as we weren't so much looking...

But, oddly enough, we have found creatures whose organs of speech seem to be located in their anuses...

(/Looks pointedly at banana video...)

#15

Posted by: Sven DiMilo Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:20 AM

no doubt you admire her...intellect!

Word is they're, uh, designed. If you know what I mean.

#16

Posted by: kopd Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:30 AM

That was terrific! It's going straight to my facebook wall.

#17

Posted by: Alyson Miers Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 9:38 AM

Heee. I love all the facepalms!

Also, it's been approximately 150 years since Darwin published On the Origin; how does that come to "evolutionists have been looking for this for hundreds of years"?

#18

Posted by: RamblinDude Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 10:11 AM

Wow, that was surprisingly good. He's got a great voice. The music’s not innovative, but it's done well and is appropriate. Thumbs up!

#19

Posted by: AdamK Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 10:36 AM

Thanks, Ibis3!

#20

Posted by: Chris Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 10:37 AM

What's with the "what a numbnut" guy on Nightline? Where can I see a full video of that panel?

#21

Posted by: thecoloursofayoungcrayon Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 10:45 AM

Sadly, I don't see this becoming a hit, as it hasn't been Auto-tuned -- which, I think, if Satan existed, he's behind. No, wait, I've got it mixed up. Satan is the source of evil; you lot are devil-worshipping god-haters, but are also atheists(!); so... Auto-tune is evil and must be a good thing.

Oh, just Auto-tune it already!!!

#22

Posted by: Jeremy O'Wheel Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 11:02 AM

Wow I saw the title of this post and for some reason (perhaps it being 2am here in Australia) thought this was a video of Billy Ray Cyrus. What a terrible, terrible let down.

#23

Posted by: JJ Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 11:56 AM

@386sx #7
Naw, not grunge, Too fast, and too metal (yes that dose sound metalish). More Alice in Chains than Mudhoney. 90's metal / hard rock.

Grunge isn't a descendant of metal (or as you describe put it second wave metal). They share a common ancestor, but grunge is more closely related to punk (also a common ancestor). I would personally say grunge isn't as explicitly "satanic" as heavy metal. It's more on the emotive / shock level of punk.

#24

Posted by: arrakis Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 12:09 PM

Never make musicians angry.

#25

Posted by: Kraid Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 1:22 PM

Nice! I rocked out and laughed out loud at the same time.

#26

Posted by: Dave Godfrey Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 3:52 PM

The Kirk 'n' Ray vs. Rational Response Squad debate is up on youtube. The first part is at-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0U1wJof2U&feature=related

#27

Posted by: Zetetic Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 4:11 PM

It certainly isn't for everyone's tastes, but overall I liked it.

#28

Posted by: Qwerty Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 4:35 PM

*facepalm*

#29

Posted by: Gregory Greenwood Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 6:49 PM

I hereby appeal to all geneticists to engineer a croco-duck so that we can feed this pair of fundie nitwits to it.

#30

Posted by: Gregory Greenwood Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 6:51 PM

Also, more power to the awesome facepalm montage.

#31

Posted by: KiwiInOz Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:18 PM

I loves me some heavy metal and mockery!

#32

Posted by: KiwiInOz Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 7:24 PM

JJ - I wouldn't say that heavy metal is explicitly satanic per se, either. That being said, Highway to Hell and Hells Bells by AC/DC are two of my favourites.

My 15 yo son is into bands like Lamb of God, who do take that angle. Poor lad, how can he rebel when his mother and father don't have a problem with his music. We do tell him to turn it down occasionally, just so that he can feel oppressed.

#33

Posted by: maxamillion Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:31 PM

Boring!

Will they release an English version?

#34

Posted by: Azulene Author Profile Page | October 7, 2009 8:38 PM

The style of the "ba-na-na" bit at the beginning seems to be directly imitating the vocal style of David Draiman from the metal band Disturbed. A fact which endeared the song to me instantly.

You can see the similarity in vocal style at the very beginning of the song "God of the Mind": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvYCj5BnPSM

Incidentally, Disturbed seems to have a fair bit of animosity toward religion, judging from their lyrics. Particularly in the song Believe from the album of the same name.

#35

Posted by: arachnophilia Author Profile Page | October 8, 2009 5:53 PM

this is what always annoys me about this crocoduck thing: kirk's right. evolution does predict a transitional form with many features similar to both crocodilians AND avians.

only it looks something more like this.

they've got feathers, and toothy mouths. they're called "theropod dinosaurs" and this particular one, the one that proved the dinosaurian ancestry of birds, was found just two years after "on the origin of species" was published.

#36

Posted by: Nebula99 Author Profile Page | October 10, 2009 5:24 PM

Exactly, Arachnophilia! This is why I HATE the crocoduck argument. Kirk says that whoever finds a half-bird, half-reptile will be very rich... he should tell that to the guys who FOUND the damn thing.

#37

Posted by: Chris P | October 24, 2009 9:21 PM

Crocoduck LIVES again.

The latest National Geographic has a drawing of a real one. They call it a "Duckcroc" but Ray didn't say which bit was duck and which croc.

It's in the back pages. So the crocoduck has made the big time.

Nobody mentioned this in the thread - or did I miss something.

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