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Friday Cephalopod: Squink!
Category: Cephalopods • Organisms
Posted on: November 20, 2009 8:18 AM, by PZ Myers
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Posted by: Seth Coster | November 20, 2009 8:41 AM
This is clearly an attempt by Jesus to rip off the first stage of the game Spore.
Posted by: IaMoL | November 20, 2009 8:44 AM
A cartoon in the animal world... with goo goo googily eyes!
Posted by: bbgunn | November 20, 2009 8:46 AM
That cephalopod is looney tunes, I tell ya! Looney tunes.
Posted by: Sir Craig | November 20, 2009 8:53 AM
Pretty - looks like a Dale Chihuly sculpture...
Posted by: murgadroid | November 20, 2009 8:57 AM
I will name him George. And I will hug him, and squeeze him, and pet him, . . . .
Posted by: dinkum | November 20, 2009 8:59 AM
Looks like a screenshot from Spore 2: the Hox Lords.
Posted by: Pinkydead
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November 20, 2009 9:04 AM
At last, proof of intelligent design.
That's definitely one of Matt Groening's creations.
Posted by: Kargoneth | November 20, 2009 9:09 AM
Are those coloured blobs chromatophores?
Posted by: NewEnglandBob
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November 20, 2009 9:09 AM
Wait...which are the eyes? The small black things on the white or the big black things near the front?
Posted by: Torrie | November 20, 2009 9:13 AM
Looks Complex. God Did It!
Posted by: Evolving Squid | November 20, 2009 9:15 AM
Sherman's Lagoon has Vampyroteuthis infernalis in today's paper :)
Posted by: BlueMonday | November 20, 2009 9:17 AM
Adorable cellophane cephalopod first thing in the morning=me happy.
Now I just need to wake up.
Posted by: SEF | November 20, 2009 9:28 AM
@ NewEnglandBob #9:
The real eyes are at the front, on the head, just behind the clustered tentacles. But it does do an excellent impression of having fake cartoon-style ones.
Posted by: Meg | November 20, 2009 9:28 AM
The eyes are the large black spots on the left, on either side of the arms.
I wonder what those little dots are on its neck - cute organs?
Posted by: Levi in NY | November 20, 2009 9:53 AM
According to the article, it's actually a squid embryo.
Posted by: Kimberly Hosey (AZ Writer) | November 20, 2009 10:06 AM
A squid with "Garfield eyes," according to my son.
Posted by: Brownian, Most Vicious & Petty of Pharyngulites
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November 20, 2009 10:15 AM
Walnut and copper earth tones, faux terrazzo geometrica; the seventies are back!
Posted by: Ediacaran | November 20, 2009 10:19 AM
Wow, Calamari Aspic!
Completely off topic - thanks for intervening with Mr. Deity for me, P.Z., in putting off the end of the world for my vacation. I'm still away from home, but most of the rest of it involves sitting on the beach once I get to Phuket, and given how horribly Mr. Deity has dealt with that area in the recent past, even in his infinite love, well, I know he can't hold off his wrath forever. Has a new schedule been posted yet? Not trying to be greedy, just want to know how much and whether to pack for the next part of the trip.
Posted by: Aratina Cage
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November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Awwww, so very very cute with its giraffe spots, big googly eyes, and itty-bitty tentacle cluster.
Posted by: MikeG | November 20, 2009 10:34 AM
"-cute organs?"
You mean squeeophores?
Posted by: Arachobia | November 20, 2009 10:54 AM
Holy Crap its from Spore!
When video games come to life, you know the apocalypse is near... We await the real version of pacman...
Posted by: Curious | November 20, 2009 10:58 AM
If some individuals of a species are introduced to a volcanic island with different ecological niches, can they eventually evolve to form different species without being geographically isolated from each other, so as to take advantage of the different niches? I will be grateful if someone could clarify please?
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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November 20, 2009 11:02 AM
A motley sort of animal.
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
Posted by: puseaus | November 20, 2009 11:09 AM
Sadly, he didn't suddenly appear in a cloud of smoke as I happened to rub aunt Loomias ancient oil lamp. He looks just like the guy to fulfill my wishes. Has he said anything yet?
Posted by: My Lord! | November 20, 2009 11:12 AM
Kooootchie, kooootchie, koo... You are so cute, Yes you are, yes you are (said in baby voice)... Arrrrgh! That's my arm, nooooooo, gurgle.
Posted by: Valdyr | November 20, 2009 11:14 AM
The semi-transparent body and two "mandibles" at the leftmost end make me think it's some sort of species of Metroid.
Posted by: Ewan R | November 20, 2009 11:14 AM
Looks like a squiraffe, or possible a giruid (or maybe a squirfield if an above post is correct..)-this should lend hope to the eternal quest for the crocoduck.
Posted by: Aratina Cage
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November 20, 2009 11:23 AM
My Lord!, Valdyr, I see what you mean. Maybe I should be wary about wanting to hug the squishiness out of it.
Posted by: daveau
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November 20, 2009 11:35 AM
I had a shower curtain like that.
Yay, Friday!
Posted by: SirBedevere | November 20, 2009 11:38 AM
Off-topic for this post but I thought people here might be interested in a short interview with Richard Dawkins on the AV Club:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/richard-dawkins,35443/
Posted by: Ishtar | November 20, 2009 12:00 PM
Curious @22: Yes, that's exactly how it works. Think Galapagos finches.
Posted by: Angel Kaida | November 20, 2009 12:05 PM
The little guy is adorable, and I agree with Arachobia that he looks just like the cell stage from Spore :)
OT, but Eric Hovind has a pointless poll on the front page of his blog. I mean, granted, it's like shooting fish in a barrel, but it's so much fun.
Is Evolution a "Worldview"?
Yes 14 votes
No 2 votes
Evolution is science! 8 votes
Posted by: Acronym Jim | November 20, 2009 12:05 PM
An obvious marketing ploy to deceive folks into welcoming our tentacled overlords.
Grandmas and other glurge fans will have the honor of being the first among us to be eaten.
Posted by: Joe | November 20, 2009 12:09 PM
Re #22 and #31:
I'd disagree with the implication of the words "so as to take advantage"---an implication of intent.
And, I think, it should be pointed out that although speciation occurs in the absence of of geographic isolation, such isolation strongly facilitates speciation.
"Facilitates" is a bad word choice, too, for same reason cited above. Danged language.
Joe
Posted by: Orakio | November 20, 2009 12:38 PM
#26 Valdyr, #28 aratina cage:
Feel free to hug, but remember to secure your morph ball and bomb before attempting to do so.
Posted by: Curious | November 20, 2009 12:59 PM
Thank you #31 and #34. I have no difficulty in understanding how it could have happened when individuals get isolated geographically. My difficulty is understanding how it could happen in the absence of such isolation when, at least initially, individuals with a trait enabling them to eat, say, a different type of food, are able to breed freely with individuals without that trait.
Posted by: Curious | November 20, 2009 1:14 PM
In such a scenario, wouldn't the whole species evolve to be able to eat both types of food?
Posted by: Joe | November 20, 2009 1:17 PM
Curious #36:
Richard Dawkins, in The Greatest Show on Earth, discusses this a bit. You can find a bit more if you google sympatric speciation and parapatric speciation.
Others readers here know more about this than I do, I am sure.
Joe
Posted by: SaraJ | November 20, 2009 1:17 PM
Aw, he has googly eyes. What a cutie!
Posted by: Jean-François | November 20, 2009 1:22 PM
So they picked the carnivore early on in the game... wait, you mean this thing's real? I call copyright infringement on behalf of Spore!
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 20, 2009 1:29 PM
Off topic, but this poll must be pharyngulated:
The squishable platypus is losing by a mile.
Don't you all want a big, cuddly monotreme to call your own?
Posted by: CJM | November 20, 2009 1:33 PM
Are we sure this is not a viral promo for Finding Nemo 2?
Posted by: Dan! | November 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Whoo hoo! I totally sent this link to P.Z. yesterday! Although I guess if I want linked to my blog, I'm going to have to submit my own photographs.
Posted by: uppity cracka | November 20, 2009 2:06 PM
this is it? a whole day on pharyngula without offending a single catholic, muslim, or republican?
i'm outraged!!!!
hold on...looks like you managed to offend me. good.
Posted by: Alyson Miers | November 20, 2009 2:27 PM
Can someone fill me in on this, as I am not a biologist (IANAB): if it's an embryo, how is it floating freely in water and able to squirt ink?
But either way, it is a very cute little McSquidderson! I want to flip it over and tickle its belly.
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck
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November 20, 2009 3:08 PM
I'm beginning to detect some overlap between CuteOverload commenters and Pharyngulites. BTW, there's yet another example of pareidolia over there, this time in mayo.
Posted by: JBlilie | November 20, 2009 3:39 PM
uppity cracka:
I am mortally offended by your outrage! How dare you offend me by desiring to offend me?!
Posted by: JBlilie | November 20, 2009 3:41 PM
Squid is just wonderful with lemon aiouli ...
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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November 20, 2009 3:53 PM
As cute invertebrates go, that's a reasonably cute invertebrate.
Posted by: vanharris
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November 20, 2009 4:02 PM
Eric Hovind has a pointless poll on the front page of his blog. I mean, granted, it's like shooting fish in a barrel, but it's so much fun.
Is Evolution a "Worldview"?
Yes
No
Evolution is science! Now winning.
Can be found at http://erichovind.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Alan B | November 20, 2009 4:04 PM
# 41 Sili said:
No thank you. The male Platypus has a spur on the hind foot that delivers a venom capable of causing severe pain to humans. Maybe the female is a bit safer to cuddle - just don't tell its mate!
Posted by: Alan B | November 20, 2009 4:06 PM
Do we know the scale of the picture of the Loligo peali?
It looks like a photomicrograph.
Posted by: Bride of Shrek OM
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November 20, 2009 4:09 PM
Exactly the same pattern as on my Grandma's living room wallpaper.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 20, 2009 4:23 PM
Yeah, and octopodes have nasty, sharp, chitinous beaks. That didn't stop PeeZed for posing with a big pink one.And would you really rather have a dragon?
Posted by: MrFire
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November 20, 2009 4:24 PM
and:
have inspired my pitch for a new, awesome FPS:
"Left Behind: God or 'Pod."
Earth: the not-too-distant future. In the aftermath of the Rapture, cephalopods have taken over the planet. Under their benign and advanced stewardship (they don't have a blind spot, for fuck's sake!), humankind finally has a chance to achieve universal peace and prosperity. The situation is clearly intolerable.
Enter you: Godbot 2.0, an elite troll with a divine mission to annoy what remains of humanity. Armed only with your copy of Origin of Species: Comfort Edition, you must out
witstupid your online oppressors, infiltrate the ghey conspiracy, overthrow the cephalopod order, and reclaim your place among God's chosen in an adventure so full of twists and turns, you'll feel like a creationist trying to explain away the fossil record!- Features these godly new Weapons!
*Double-functioning Rosary/Anal beads (that hypocrisy is weapons-grade!)
*AIDS-filled condom grenades (That's what condoms lead to after all!)
*Canard Gun (Infinite ammo! Keep firing until your enemies simply give up in disgust!)
- Plus these all-new Bosses!
*Tiktaalik (weak spot hint: deny its existence and it will just disappear!)
*Sastra (weak spot hint: she's a fucking woman - duh!)
*P.Z. Myers (weak spot hint: spell his name wrong until he explodes!)
Posted by: Haley | November 20, 2009 4:29 PM
awww, so cute. Can't you just see him/her as a stuffed animal?
Posted by: JohnnieCanuck
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November 20, 2009 4:34 PM
Curious, allow this layman to take a stab at explaining sympatric speciation, which is what you are asking about.
First, lets assume a new dissimilar food source arrives on our island that all members of the original bird species can use, though not as well. In the absence of significant predation, the bird population stabilises such that all birds are under nourished, depending on the seed production.
The birds do not have identical genes. Small differences that have not been significant before are scattered throughout the population. If some of the birds have slightly larger beaks because of one of these genetic differences, they will be relatively more successful at accessing the new resource. They will raise larger broods and the gene will begin to spread. They will be less successful however, with the smaller seeds.
Now there is an advantage to the offspring any time a smaller beaked bird mates with a similar one and likewise for the larger beaked ones.
Anything that facilitates discrimination between the variants during mating is going be selected for, whether it is a visual preference or an audible change in the birds' song.
Given that the new seed source proliferated in part because initially it was not as heavily utilised, perhaps its geographic preferences will provide sufficient separation to aid speciation as well.
All very messy in reality and selection can only work on what random variation provides at that point in time. Time, lots of time, is the other factor. Sooner or sometimes later, a mutation arises by chance and selection can begin.
Genetic drift is also a significant source of changes in allele frequency in a population over time, but I suspect it doesn't act sympatrically. Others will know.
Posted by: JoeB | November 20, 2009 4:53 PM
Re: speciation on islands, forget those drab Galapagos finches; think Hawaiian honeycreepers! From a single colonization event, ~ 3M years ago, 50 or more species, enormously varied, a dozen new genera, a brand new family, in fact. Is that macroevo or what? The fact that systematists have recently demoted the Drepaninidae to mere sub-family status within the Fringillidae doesn't detract from their iconic status.
There are equally good examples in plants (oodles of species and a half-dozen new genera in the Lobeliaceae) and in insects (half of the whole world's species of Drosophila).
Posted by: David B
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November 20, 2009 5:48 PM
Off topic, another poll at the end of this article about Glenn Beck
http://www.aoltv.co.uk/2009/11/17/is-it-time-to-stop-picking-on-glenn-beck/
I took the first option myself, but, whatever, it seems to be the sort of poll that demands a vote.
David B
Posted by: Copernicus | November 20, 2009 7:41 PM
ummm, the Longfin Inshore Squid is Loligo pealeii surely, not L. peali...
Jacobson, L.D. 2005. Essential Fish Habitat Source Document: Longfin Inshore Squid, Loligo pealeii, Life History and Habitat Characteristics, 2nd Edition. NOAA Technical Memorandum NMFS-NE-193, US Department of Commerce
re. Alan B. #52: most specimens only get to be about 12 inches long...
Posted by: Ell Vee
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November 20, 2009 7:47 PM
Well, well, well. . . if it isn't the infamous Homer Squidson.
Posted by: Copernicus | November 20, 2009 8:02 PM
a few more photomicrographs of the various embryonic stages of Loligo pealii from the Wood's Hole Marine Biological Laboratory:
stage 26 embryo
stage 29 embryos
stage 30 embryos emphasizing chromatophores
Posted by: Copernicus | November 20, 2009 8:20 PM
Re. Alyson Miers #45
Alyson, I think you are completely correct- although pigmentation does appear in the embryo's ink sac at about stage 29 and hatching may occur then (if the embryos are agitated) or at stage 30 (it takes between 10 and 21 days for this species to hatch, depending upon water temperature), either this is an embryo swimming freely inside the chorion just prior to hatching, or it is no longer an embryo but a larva (called paralarva in this species) and only about 2mm long
Posted by: Copernicus | November 20, 2009 9:02 PM
to Alan B. #52 again- sorry, I mis-read your comment (!)... of course you are correct, this is indeed a photomicrograph and as per my comment #63 I think we could assume this guy to be about 2mm long (eggs of Loligo pealliae are 1mm x 1.6mm*, paralarva 2mm to 4mm long**)
*Arnold, J.M., W.C. Summers, D.L. Gilbert, R.S. Manalis, N.W. Daw, and R.J. Lasek. 1974. A guide to laboratory use of the squid, Loligo pealei. Marine Biological Laboratory, Woods Hole, MA.
**Brodziak, J.T. 1995. Long-finned squid. In: Conservation and Utilization Division, Northeast Fisheries Science Center, editors. Status of the fishery resources off the northeastern United States for 1994. NOAA Tech. Mem. NMFS-NE-108.
Posted by: Alan B | November 21, 2009 9:57 AM
#64 Copernicus
Thanks. A little cutey. No, maybe not you (who knows ...).
You seem to be "into" squids (or brilliant with Google Scholar)!
Posted by: Kargoneth | November 21, 2009 10:07 AM
I was right! The coloured blobs are chromatophores.
Posted by: IanKoro
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November 21, 2009 12:14 PM
Oh no! Is PZ okay? Only _one_ post for all of friday... do you realize how bored I was at work yesterday? Come back, PZ! Come back!
Posted by: Menyambal | November 21, 2009 12:34 PM
I just drove through MSU campus where the Skepticon is taking place. I saw no signs of fire, floods or police, so I assume all is going well. I didn't try to attend last night (I stayed home for some family time, thanks), but may get there today.
Yes, it is odd to not see any new postings here. I hope PZ is having fun.
Posted by: Gryllus | November 21, 2009 1:36 PM
Don't know if anyone has posted this already, but bad news for Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron - CROCODUCK has been found!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/nov/19/galloping-dinosaur-eating-crocodiles
Posted by: deep | November 21, 2009 1:44 PM
I'm having like PZ withdrawals or something.
Posted by: stptrck75 | November 21, 2009 3:23 PM
Maybe PZ has been raptured by the Flying Spaghetti Monster (praise be its noodliness).
Wait, then why am I still here?
Posted by: Dahan
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November 21, 2009 3:35 PM
I can only assume that PZ's extended absence is a result of him having been converted to Catholicism. I suspect that he is merely taking the time to properly word his apology letter to the world.
At least he's seen the light in time to try to undo the damage he's done, unlike Darwin who only managed to find God in the nick of time on his death bed.
Posted by: Abstruseoddity
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November 21, 2009 4:11 PM
Is anyone following his Twitter? Are we sure he's actually ok?
Weird, I care about a stranger's health, must be my christian upbringing.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 21, 2009 4:15 PM
1) he's writing a book
2) Skatje was there for the debate recently meaning she's home
3) isn't it Thanksgiving?
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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November 21, 2009 4:16 PM
No, I don't see PZ becoming a Catholic. He'd go all the way to Wisconsin Synod Lutheran or Army of Joel. Nothing but the best for our PZ.
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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November 21, 2009 4:37 PM
Next Thursday.
Posted by: Abstruseoddity
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November 21, 2009 4:52 PM
Sili, Hope you aren't an American. If ya are, you can come to my house for Thanksgiving. It's god-less, promise.
Posted by: Copernicus | November 21, 2009 5:33 PM
Alan #65
LOL! Actually neither really- my post-grad work is in Ecosystem Dynamics (Imperial) and Tropical Ecology (ASU) although as a former "zodiac-jumper" in the late 70's, I am looking to re-train in Marine Science with a view to conservation... so in fact I am merely a self-confessed biophiliac and "intuitive" naturalist... but aren't we all?
Posted by: bobxxxx | November 21, 2009 5:36 PM
Is PZ allowed to take Saturdays off? I was gone all day and when I got home I immediately looked for a new brilliant article from PZ and all I found was the same picture of a cephalopod. I need my PZ fix.
Posted by: charley | November 21, 2009 5:39 PM
A tweet from pzmyers about 6 hr ago:
Posted by: bobxxxx | November 21, 2009 5:46 PM
Horrible. No PZ all day. I might have to get a life or something.
Posted by: rickflick | November 21, 2009 6:50 PM
Well, looky here. Something PZ, if still living, would have approved of...God rest his souless heart.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_rel_atheism_on_campus
Posted by: Gabby | November 21, 2009 7:01 PM
PZ is missing?
I have assembled a team of science ninjas!!
I demand to know at which Moonie or Scientology compound PZ is being held!
PZ
Whatever unnatural things you're forced to do to survive on "the inside" will be forgiven. As long as you describe them to us later... in a low husky voice... yeah.
I hope there's a wicked warden ala Jess Franco.
Science Ninjas!!
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 21, 2009 7:12 PM
Who's JR?
I fear it's not the Moonies we need worry about. It's the Mooneys. Someone should take Jerry Coyne into protective custody before they get to him, too.
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 7:42 PM
Sili, I certainly hope you are either referring to Chris Mooney or a Mooney of whom I am ignorant rather than those correctly-spelled members of the Unification Church...
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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November 21, 2009 7:55 PM
He was a character on the old soap opera Dallas many years ago. At the end of one season he was shot and the cliff hanger was "who shot JR." (For those who don't remember or who never knew,* it was Kristin.)
*For those of us who didn't care, like me, Google is your friend.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 21, 2009 7:58 PM
I know of the Moonies, and I still think Chris and his followers are more likely to have it in for PeeZed. Or do you think they've sent Johnathan Wells to Minnesota?
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 8:11 PM
hmmm, just sticking up for Gabby... and the Chris Mooney to whom I referred (as linked above, co-blogger of The Intersection) would be more prepared to stand hand-in-hand with PZ than "have it in" for him... on the other hand, I certainly wouldn't put it past Sue Ellen's sister...
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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November 21, 2009 8:20 PM
Maggie,
Are you new here?
And I know that JR, but why would he take PZ's computer?
Posted by: Markita Lynda: Healthcare is a damn right
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November 21, 2009 8:30 PM
Those eyes get stuck on!
Posted by: Markita Lynda: Healthcare is a damn right
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November 21, 2009 8:32 PM
I mean..... Those eyes look stuck on!
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 8:37 PM
Sili, no idea to whom PZ referred via Twitter, possibly JR Cole of Blunder in their Footsteps fame... your initial post appeared to "correct" Gabby so I was just teasing out the issue somewhat then Tis threw in the Dallas quip... no worries here
Posted by: Gabby | November 21, 2009 8:37 PM
Yeah, Chris Mooney might stand "hand in hand" with PZ if he thought it would get him some book sales.
At this point, I wouldn't trust that cat as far as my team of science ninjas could throw him.
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 8:45 PM
OK Gabby, haven't read much of his stuff (I tend not to get too involved in the science/politics issues but prefer research and field study), but he and Sheril seem to be on the right side...
Posted by: Markita Lynda: Healthcare is a damn right
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November 21, 2009 9:09 PM
PZ just twittered, 20 minutes ago: "Richard Carrier has convinced me. Jesus never existed."
Mr. Carrier has some very nice essays here: "Infidels.org library: Richard Carrier."
Posted by: Gabby | November 21, 2009 9:09 PM
Maggie
You'd have to dig through an awful lot of posts and articles for the full weight of it, but from my perspective Mr. Mooney has said and done a lot of unsavory things in what I can only view as an attempt to move books.
We may have some of the same opponents but I can assure you that Sheril and Chris are not on my side. I certainly think that the joke about Chris stealling PZ's laptop has some relevant humor as I believe Chris and Sheril prefer for PZ's blog to fall silent.
If you look up "Godlycoddlers" in the urban dictionary, you'll start to understand how I feel about them. I actually created the word for them.
Posted by: Abstruseoddity
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November 21, 2009 9:28 PM
Monado;
Link broken.
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 9:31 PM
Thanks Gabby (just read PZ's "faithiest" blog from July this year)... guess that makes you Kitty'sBitch!
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 21, 2009 9:36 PM
Abstruseoddity, I think this is what Monado was linking you to:
Richard Carrier at Infidels.org
Posted by: Gabby | November 21, 2009 9:41 PM
You'd really need to read some more to get the full effect. It just seemed to get worse all the time.
I posted Godlycoddlers in a fit of irritation after reading Chris' article (I think it was in the NYT) where he seemed to be angry and berating Richard Dawkins for writing another book.
Arrogant little gnat.
And, yes that's me. I changed my screen name to an old family nickname recently. It seems fitting as I tend to run my mouth without thinking. Horrible character flaw but very entertaining in a bar.
Posted by: chuckgoecke
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November 21, 2009 9:45 PM
I hope the organizers of Skepticon have some good video people and they got much of it, cause i suspect PZ, Rebecca et al, were not taking as close and accurate notes as usual, based on the Tweets.
Posted by: Empion | November 22, 2009 12:35 AM
Just got home from Skepticon tonight. It was awesome!
The entire event had a camera operating, and I believe all of the video shall be posted up on youtube sometime in the future.
As far as who JR is... I'm fairly sure PZ meant "JT" - the primary organizer of Skepticon. I believe they were unable to get PZs internet to work on the campus (probably a conspiracy by a god... My money is on Zeus). Last I saw him (about 40 minutes ago) he was alive and kicking. Shortly before that, he did a minor strip tease up on stage.
Posted by: Empion | November 22, 2009 12:38 AM
Tired. The him I refer to is PZ. Not Zeus or JT.
Posted by: Kane148
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November 22, 2009 1:13 AM
Did they film the strip tease? :P
Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage
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November 22, 2009 5:27 AM
Was everyone yelling "Put it on! Put it on!"?
Posted by: puseaus | November 22, 2009 7:41 AM
Any reports on PZ drinking alcohol over there? Can we nail him this time?
The eyes & the smile on the squink are just part of a mask. Bloody complex effects these evolutionary mechanisms can design/produce. Better and better, gene by gene over thousands of generations, that's the way to solve a problem.
Posted by: Maggie Moo | November 22, 2009 9:58 AM
umm, think you need to talk to some ancient Romans or Persians or Seleucids... the thing is that technically/physiologically, nails through the palms won't work because the weight of the body would rip through the flesh, better to nail just above the wrists between radius and ulna to keep the body from sliding...
but wait, will that make any difference at all- surely he'll be back after a couple of days?