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Hey, now, don't challenge me in a poll

Category: GodlessnessPointless polls
Posted on: December 27, 2009 7:05 PM, by PZ Myers

It's like taunting the bull while standing in the middle of his field. It's just not smart. Anyway, there's another of these online polls ranking atheists, and Hemant Mehta has come out on Twitter threatening to destroy me in the voting. You know I can't stand for that. Go vote!

Who is the Most Vocal Atheist of the Year?

Richard Dawkins 49 (25%)
PZ Myers 52 (26%)
Christopher Hitchens 33 (17%)
Bill Maher 21 (10%)
Dan Dennett 4 (2%)
Sam Harris 4 (2%)
Victor Stenger 3 (1%)
Michael Shermer 6 (3%)
Dan Barker 10 (5%)
Hemant Mehta 90 (46%)

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#1

Posted by: Sastra Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:14 PM

Most vocal?

Sing something. We need to assess your vocal ability.

#2

Posted by: Newfie Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:23 PM

He challenged you? The poll wrecker in chief? Silly kid.
Oh, and you can vote for more than one, so I threw in for Victor Stenger as well, because I've never heard of him.

#3

Posted by: Fred The Hun Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:24 PM

The Story of Ferdinand the Bull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih5B8ID3zLA

#4

Posted by: sandiseattle Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:26 PM

I'm kinna wondering what they mean by "vocal". If they mean who talked the most trash, PZ is certainly the winner. Dawkins seems to have developed a repetoire he repeats over and over, just manages to do it a lot.

#5

Posted by: Janine, The Little Top Of Venom, OM Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:30 PM

Atheist Idol?

#6

Posted by: Sastra Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:38 PM

Heh -- I've just realized, I've actually spoken to every one of the people on the list in person, and heard their responses. So they're all vocal, from my perspective. Who the most? Not sure. Gabbed with several. Least with Maher, Harris, and Stenger, though.

But I'm in the middle of reading Vic Stenger's book, The New Atheism. It helps to have a new book, if you're going to be considered vocal in the larger sense, of being widely known.

Keep hard at work, PZ. Scribble, scribble, scribble...

#7

Posted by: Marella Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:39 PM

It's been thoroughly pharyngulated, PZ is at 63% now, with Dawkins at 19% the nearest rival.

#8

Posted by: Peter G. Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:39 PM

Hmm. Is there a poll bending anonymous? So many begin thinking they can take it or leave it alone but before you know their eyes are glazed and their mouse is a shadow of its' former self.

#9

Posted by: tsig0 Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:42 PM

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit in the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old lone ranger
And you don't mess around with PZ

#10

Posted by: mark.ormandy Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:49 PM

The friendly atheist blog is amongst the most boring blogs on the Web, I hope he gets last place.

#11

Posted by: Somnolent Aphid Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:51 PM

What's a Hemant?

#12

Posted by: tdanielmidgley Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:54 PM

Shermer's the most vocal about not actually being an atheist. Does that count?

#13

Posted by: Aratina Cage Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 7:58 PM

Dawkins really should give you a run for the money on this one. He's been all over the place this year being vocal. Results so far:

Richard Dawkins

164 (19%)

PZ Myers

601 (69%)

Christopher Hitchens

104 (12%)

Bill Maher

34 (3%)

Dan Dennett

10 (1%)

Sam Harris

12 (1%)

Victor Stenger

11 (1%)

Michael Shermer

12 (1%)

Dan Barker

16 (1%)

Hemant Mehta

145 (16%)

#14

Posted by: Carlie of the lacy, gently wafting adjectives Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:05 PM

Threatened to destroy? He asked nicely and said please! :p

#15

Posted by: maidden Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:06 PM

There is certainly something wrong with that poll, as it adds up to 137%...

#16

Posted by: Paul Burnett Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:13 PM

Who the hell is Hemant Mehta? I've never even heard of him. He must not be very vocal...so I voted for PZ.

#17

Posted by: Greg Laden Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:16 PM

Who is Hemant Mehta?

You need to rearrange the letters ...

#18

Posted by: Thom Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:20 PM

Sorry, P.Z. but Dawkins had a book out this year. On a completely different topic, how's that book you're writing coming along? btw, first post anywhere as an atheist! Hello, everyone!

#19

Posted by: Carlie of the lacy, gently wafting adjectives Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:25 PM

Hemant Mehta

Men hate math?
The anthem, Ma?
Me, the hat man?

#20

Posted by: Carlie of the lacy, gently wafting adjectives Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:27 PM

The quote should have had Greg's rearrangement comment, not the line before that...

#21

Posted by: David B Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:27 PM

Well, I voted for Hitch, because he goes round debating anyone and everyone almost on a daily basis, as well as being in the brilliant debate on Catholicism where Hitch and Fry took on a couple of losers and destroyed them on the goodness or otherwise of the Catholic Church.

Most of the rest of you are sycophantic PZ groupies.

Hitch is the obvious choice.

David

#22

Posted by: cafeeine Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:28 PM

To play devil's advocate, PZ is definitely vocal on his blog, but not very visible outside of it. If by vocal we mean getting your voice heard by many people, talking in your own personal echo chamber isn't that effective, and to that effect guys like Bill Maher are more vocal by their choice of media alone.

That said, in keeping with the spirit of online polls, I voted for PZ anyway.

#23

Posted by: chigau (◦_◦) Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 8:53 PM

Janine #5

Atheist Idol!
Atheist Idol!

They could debate! and dance and sing and debate!

I bet Fox would run it.

Swimsuit?

#24

Posted by: lx Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:04 PM

Richard Dawkins 309 (18%)
PZ Myers 1246 (75%)
Hemant Mehta 200 (12%)

#25

Posted by: PZ Myers Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:09 PM

See what being a friendly atheist gets you?

#26

Posted by: Sastra Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:09 PM

Maybe "vocal atheist" is a euphemism for "militant atheist," which is a slur for "outspoken atheist," which is another way of saying "vocal atheist."

In other words, who's being damn uppity?

#27

Posted by: Kimberly Hosey (AZ Writer) Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:10 PM

Thom (#18) Hello, from an infrequent commenter who also made her public godless debut here!

I'd say rocking the poll is in line with being vocal anyway, so it's all good. But the percentages added up to 124% when I checked. Huh?

#28

Posted by: consciousness razor Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:22 PM

Who is Hemant Mehta?
You need to rearrange the letters ...

ha me home isn't wheat

who is the math name

the math who is mean

his math who he meant

his whom meat than me

tithe wash home amen

#29

Posted by: llewelly Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:30 PM

Funny. Hemant Mehta's name contains the letters sufficient to form the word 'math' twice. And he's a math teacher.

#30

Posted by: consciousness razor Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 9:31 PM

That should've been: "is math who he meant".

This one is almost coherent:

this man who eat'h me

#31

Posted by: 'Tis Himself, OM Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:16 PM

When did Bill Maher become an atheist? Last I heard, he was vehemently denying being one.

Of course I don't stay au courant with Maher's tendencies. All I really know is he's a wackaloon who claims that vaccinations' main purposes are to enrich big pharma and increase your chances of developing Alzheimer's.

#32

Posted by: Peter G. Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:16 PM

I assume most vocal atheist means the one who sings the best. Since I haven't heard any of these birds sing I will venture no opinion. Something tells I should be grateful for my ignorance in this matter.

#33

Posted by: teachingsapiens.wordpress.com Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:16 PM

I've met Hemant, and hes a nice enough guy, has a small following, but I don't see him as being that vocal.

Bill Maher doesn't belong on the list for having said repeatedly that he is not an atheist.

Robert B

#34

Posted by: Realist Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:31 PM

You have to actually read the question:

"Who has been the most vocal atheist OF THE YEAR?" (ie. 2009). Dawkins is awesome, don't get me wrong, but he's gone back to actual science now with his latest book on the evidence for evolution. If it was "Who has been the most vocal overall" I'd absolutely vote Dawkins. PZ has clearly been more vocal in 2009 though.

#35

Posted by: Biology Blogger Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:34 PM

How does Barker 5%? People are clearing the cookies!

#36

Posted by: Aratina Cage Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:39 PM

It could be that the poll creator did not mean to allow multiple voting, so when you vote for more than one person, it increments the total votes by one while increasing the individual votes by one, too, resulting in a miscount of 199 votes so far for the total. The percentages actually are (rounded and in order of poll):
Votes, %
45, 2%
1867, 71%
261, 10%
59, 2%
30, 1%
37, 1%
24, 1%
28, 1%
26, 1%
250, 10%
Total 2627 (but the total stated on the pool is 2428)

#37

Posted by: Aratina Cage Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:40 PM

pool, poll

#38

Posted by: John Morales Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:42 PM

Realist,

"Who has been the most vocal atheist OF THE YEAR?"

No, no — you emphasised the wrong word!

Peter G. got it right.

"Who has been the most vocal atheist of the year?"

Written perorations don't count. ;)

#39

Posted by: CalGeorge Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 10:51 PM

Got my vote.

May you never stop ejaculating!

#40

Posted by: Levi in NY Author Profile Page | December 27, 2009 11:00 PM

My vote too. Though I had to include Richard Dawkins, just because I really like that chap.

(Did I say that right? "Chap"?)

#41

Posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawlwzXKlEOQCnhL4fKXlHWrRrOKqIylCRJw Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 12:36 AM

Well, of course PZ gets my vote! I don't know anyone else more deserving than him.

#42

Posted by: mtgap.wordpress.com Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 12:38 AM

It seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy that you are winning a poll about being vocal by telling a bunch of people to vote for you -- which is very vocal in and of itself.

#43

Posted by: Onotheo Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 12:50 AM

I'm sorry but I'm voting for Hemant Mehta. He may not be the most vocal but I like him better ;)

#44

Posted by: Rorschach Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 1:01 AM

Most vocal atheist would have to be Hitchens, if vocal means "being perceived and acknowledged with a particular message by the largest audience" IMO.

Maher gets the prize for "most undeserved laureate of an atheist award".

And maybe Dawkins should get an award for most famous atheist in the public eye ever, or something.My former dad i/l asked me over xmas dinner out of left field if I knew who Ted Haggard was, he had seen him talk to RD in "Root of all evil", must have been on TV recently over here.

#45

Posted by: efrique Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 1:06 AM

Actually, I'd vote for Hemant on a lot of criteria, but probably not "most vocal".

Why the heck are there no women on this list?

I can think of several vocal atheist women who have as much of a claim to be in the list as at least half of the men listed.

Are atheist women invisible?

#46

Posted by: Twewi Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 1:08 AM

Gender balance much?

#47

Posted by: Whore of All the Earth Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 2:01 AM

I voted for Hemant. I can't help it. I root for the underdog!

#48

Posted by: Sigmund Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 2:16 AM

"Why the heck are there no women on this list?"
I vote for Ophelia Benson!
I do agree that the list is ridiculous.
Some of them aren't even atheists!
(Bill Maher, Michael Shermer)

#49

Posted by: Rorschach Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 2:20 AM

Why the heck are there no women on this list?

Not this again. Ask the friggin blog owner, it's not a global conspiracy !

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was meant to be on the "4 horsemen" and all that.....

#50

Posted by: cearbhaill Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 3:00 AM

I'm a music teacher. I gotta hear you sing something. Preferably not a christmas carol, and definitely not a hymn.

#51

Posted by: RickR Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 3:11 AM

"May you never stop ejaculating!"

*faints*

#52

Posted by: Jadehawk, OM Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 4:09 AM

Not this again. Ask the friggin blog owner, it's not a global conspiracy !
aside from the fact that pointing it out to the blog owner would be useful, please do try to remember that the whole point of that gi-fucking-normous "white male privilege" thread was to point it out when women and minorities are being overlooked. So don't whine when it actually happens, it makes you sound like a faitheist whining because the New Atheists are being all "militant" and "strident"
#53

Posted by: Rorschach Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 4:33 AM

Are you talking to me or efrique??

#54

Posted by: ScienceRob Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 4:58 AM

As far as the women issue is concerned, I don't personally discount them, but in all seriousness I haven't heard of any debate or book written by a non-theist woman in the past year or so. I might be mistaken but for me thats what counts as far as being vocal so...

#55

Posted by: blf Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 5:06 AM

Annual Report on Teh Global Conspriacy to Ignore Athesits, 2009
Commissionaire for Keeping Wimmin in Their Place

Dear Friends,

Attached is this year's report on the campaign. In summary:

Overall it's been another successful year for Teh Right of Men. Top achievement of the year was getting silly gels whipped for wearing trousers. Revenue from Sex Slaves is up, albeit there was a minor setback when a small and trivial difficultly with a 9yo was leaked to the press. In neither case could the bleatings of Teh Gayz Liberal Nazi Aethist Commie Treehugging Evilionistism prevent justice, mercy, and his holly law from being applied.

We've had considerable success in fermenting open revolt in the Teh Gayz Liberal Nazi Aethist Commie Treehugging Evilionistism over how to best ignore the few wimmin in their sad and decreasing numbers. This time next year, I hope to report the total demise of Teh Gayz Liberal Nazi Aethist Commie Treehugging Evilionistism, or at least it's splitting into three tiny camps: Those who know wimmin's brains overheat when they ain't making babies in the kitchen, those who know wimmin have no role in the increasingly-hopeless debate against the onrushing tidal wave of his holly word, and those who have already excommunicated all the wimmin.

Sincerely yours in his holly names, etc., etc.

#56

Posted by: cuco3 Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 6:45 AM

Well, I'm going to vote for Hemant Mehta. If we can produce a Christmas miracle I think it might give PZ a dose of the humility that Christians seem to think is so important. :-)

#57

Posted by: Aratina Cage Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 7:32 AM

Poll Update (using individual vote counts):


Atheist- Votes- Percentage
---
Richard Dawkins- 895- 14.8%
PZ Myers- 3705- 61.1%
Christopher Hitchens- 521- 8.6%
Bill Maher- 102- 1.7%
Dan Dennett- 59- 1.0%
Sam Harris- 73- 1.2%
Victor Stenger- 48- 0.8%
Michael Shermer- 56- 0.9%
Dan Barker- 50- 0.8%
Hemant Mehta- 550- 9.1%
---
Total- 6059- 100.0%

#58

Posted by: cnocspeireag Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 7:37 AM

Excellent poll result.

Off topic, I know, but why does Science Blogs take advertising from an astrologer?

#59

Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 7:59 AM

Off topic, I know, but why does Science Blogs take advertising from an astrologer?
The advertising service for SciBlogs sends some strange ads. Who ever pays them for a demographic. We've had creationist and bible ads too.
#60

Posted by: blf Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 8:07 AM

[W]hy does Science Blogs take advertising from an astrologer?

They probably don't directly. I presume it's supplied by whatever service(s?) they get the ads from. As I recall, The SciBorg switched services earlier this year, and suddenly started getting loads of inappropriate ads—the one I remember as causing quite a flap was for Russian slavegirlswives—but the goofier ads seem to have damped down now. I assume The SciBorg talked to the ad provider(s?) or tuned their selection criteria or something like that. Some goofy ones still slip through; for instance, yesterday(?) there was one for, if I recall correctly, Korean slavegirlswives.

There's also some localization. For instance, I keep getting ads in French (I'm in France).

And I won't be too surprised if the filter/service/whatever thought astrology was a science or would be interesting to those interested in science.

#61

Posted by: Carlie of the lacy, gently wafting adjectives Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 8:22 AM

I find it interesting that so many people here don't know of Hemant, and so many people there don't know who PZ is. I would have thought there was more overlap in the two readerships. I guess the internet is a pretty big place.

#62

Posted by: Jadehawk, OM Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 8:31 AM

There's also some localization. For instance, I keep getting ads in French (I'm in France).
for some reason since coming to Germany I've been getting ads for Filipino dating sites. wtf?
#63

Posted by: Invigilator Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 8:34 AM

I voted for PZ before I realized he had already crushed the competition, and now I feel like one of the "sycophantic PZ groupies."

No more! Now I am going to vote for God and His idiot acolytes in all those stupid polls, just to undermine PZ's overwhelming dominance of the intertubes.

#64

Posted by: Qwerty Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 10:51 AM

Poor Hement, he didn't stand a chance. Ahh, the one poll where God can't possibly win!

#65

Posted by: One Furious Llama Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 1:06 PM

Fools. Know they not with whom they toy?

#66

Posted by: Yubal Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 2:43 PM

I voted for Dawkins. But it does not help. The PZ flood is too high.

What would Noah have done ??

#67

Posted by: blf Author Profile Page | December 28, 2009 5:38 PM

for some reason since coming to Germany I've been getting ads for Filipino dating sites. wtf?

'cuz everywhere that isn't the USA is the same, a nasty foreign land where they's too stoopid to speaks properly amerkian…

#68

Posted by: yolande Author Profile Page | December 29, 2009 4:28 AM

I refuse to vote in this silly poll until there are 10 females on the list as well.

#69

Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline. Author Profile Page | January 2, 2010 3:31 PM

So how about that penis fencing? Where do we put our donations?

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