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I'm already sick of her

Category: Politics
Posted on: December 5, 2009 10:19 AM, by PZ Myers

This is going to go on for years and years, isn't it? Sarah Palin is going to keep on saying stupid things to keep herself in the news.

No one person has all the right answers. It takes a united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity.

I think if we can get back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier nation.

No, it won't. God does not provide, OK?

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#1

Posted by: Stuart | December 5, 2009 10:29 AM

What is it about Sarah Palin, I just find her disturbingly attractive?

#2

Posted by: Mike the Englishman | December 5, 2009 10:30 AM

So her solution for improving the financial health of the US is to emulate mediaeval Europe or Saudi Arabia?

Epic poli-sci, Sarah.

#3

Posted by: Berny | December 5, 2009 10:34 AM

How can the US "rededicate" itself to God when it wasn't dedicated in the first place?

#4

Posted by: Cary Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 10:36 AM

She's just despicable and massively insecure. She will stoop to anything to get attention and keep herself in the news.

#5

Posted by: Tom Morris | December 5, 2009 10:41 AM

The interview with her supporters was particularly amusing ("conservativeness").

#6

Posted by: DaveL Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 10:41 AM

It takes a united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity.

Yeah, because that's always worked for the South, right?

#7

Posted by: Kelreth | December 5, 2009 10:41 AM

As expected Palin hasn't read any of the evidence showing that less religious nations tend to be happier, healthier and far less insane than religious nations. Though I don't expect that she reads anything, the bible doesn't count as its insane gibberish.

#8

Posted by: mattincinci Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 10:42 AM

I think if we get back to that, our country will be a crazier more insane place to live in... to put it mildly

"this lady is frichen nuts!"

#9

Posted by: CanonicalKoi | December 5, 2009 10:42 AM

Sarah Palin: wife, mother, idiot and attention whore. She's kind of the whole package, isn't she?

#10

Posted by: Phil | December 5, 2009 10:49 AM

If she is such a committed Christian, shouldn't she be home attending to her family and adhering to her husband's wishes?

If she weren't the right wing's media darling, the family values crowd would be in a lather with pompous indignation over a candidate with her personal and political history.

#11

Posted by: SirBedevere | December 5, 2009 10:50 AM

I'm listening to "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" on NPR as I write this. And staunch Republican P.J O'Rourke just said of Sarah Palin: "She's working for the other side!"

#12

Posted by: One Eyed Jack | December 5, 2009 10:51 AM

We will keep seeing her because that crap she spews is exactly what the religotards want to hear.

#13

Posted by: gman | December 5, 2009 10:53 AM

Oh, and the WaPo says she's pandering to the birthers now:

"Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is lending her support to a conspiracy theory promoted by fringe groups, saying of the idea that President Obama may not have an American birth certificate, "I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue.""

Apparently godly counsel hasn't been able to settle this issue. Because if God had told SP that Obama is in fact un-American, she would telling us.

#14

Posted by: The Tim Channel Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 10:53 AM

If she is such a committed Christian, shouldn't she be home attending to her family and adhering to her husband's wishes?

I just wish she would go home and wait for Jesus to feed her.

Enjoy.

#15

Posted by: One Eyed Jack | December 5, 2009 10:55 AM

@Stuart #1

Tina Fey is 10X more attractive. That might seem a bit odd, considering how dead on her impression of Palin is. The difference between the two is that Tina Fey has a brain to go with the looks. Palin, not so much.

#16

Posted by: Torrie | December 5, 2009 10:55 AM

yeah, sarah palin pissed me off when she met with billy graham and made a public statement that all people are born with a void in their soul that they have to fill or some stupid-ass thing.

#17

Posted by: 1minion | December 5, 2009 10:56 AM

She's not very humble. If she was, "Going Rogue" couldn't exist. We should be glad she's not humble so we can continue to mock her attempts to be significant.

#18

Posted by: Torrie | December 5, 2009 10:59 AM

she is going down the wrong path. americans don't want religion in politics. we want separation of church and state. we don't want to return to the dark ages. doesn't she watch the political races? every year it is discussed that people like mitt romney can't be president because he's too religious. people will vote for you if you are christian, but they want you to keep your mouth shut about it and keep it out of the administration. well, most of us, can't speak for some of the conservatives.

#20

Posted by: jolly | December 5, 2009 11:03 AM

Whoa! If it takes 'answers to prayers' we'll be waiting a while. I wish they would wait quietly in the corner.

#21

Posted by: Josh Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:07 AM

I really dislike this woman.

We should pay her about as much heed as we do Wikipedia.

#22

Posted by: raven | December 5, 2009 11:12 AM

Heroes are created by groups of people, often out of flimsy materials like cardboard, tissue paper, and straw.

Palin was created by the Religious Kook Christofascists.

They are clearly desperate for heroes. Sarah Palin, the moron who can't tell the truth, Carrie Jean, the Miss California silicon babe who has her own problems with hypocrisy, Glen Beck, crazy enough to convert to Mormonism, O'Reilly and the usual pantheon that makes the three stooges look smart and sophisticated.

If the Christofascists ever gain power again like they did with Bush, say good bye to America. And we can't blame Palin for being what she is. We have to blame the millions of people who deified her.

#23

Posted by: Martin Brock | December 5, 2009 11:13 AM

Sick of her? She's your reason for being. Without the Sarah Palins of the world, you'd have little to write about here.

#24

Posted by: blf | December 5, 2009 11:16 AM

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5. The Disaster That Wood Have Falled If You Had Failed to Elect Me The Supreme Leader of the Universe.

Empirereor Palin has announced a new penalty for the Myth of Goobal Warming, all who fail to burn more coal will be sent to the tar sand mines.

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#25

Posted by: MAJeff, OM Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:17 AM

every year it is discussed that people like mitt romney can't be president because he's too religious.

His religiosity is pretty opportunistic. He's moved further and further right over the course of his career. And even though his "faith speech" last year was pretty awful, his rightward shift seems to have less to do with principles than to what might get votes. As the base has gotten crazier, Willard had gotten crazier.

#26

Posted by: bondwooley | December 5, 2009 11:22 AM

The anger and paranoia that comes out of her mouth - and the teabaggers and the far right - is driving the rest of us toward anger and paranoia:

American Outrage

(satire)

#27

Posted by: Emily | December 5, 2009 11:25 AM

It takes a united nation

This from someone who's supported the Alaskan secessionist movement?

For Sarah Palin(as for many other believers), God is just a sockpuppet for her own cause-- say whatever it takes to get more votes.

#28

Posted by: Torrie | December 5, 2009 11:25 AM

Martin Brock | December 5, 2009 11:13 AM

"Sick of her? She's your reason for being. Without the Sarah Palins of the world, you'd have little to write about here."

Martin, we'd LOVE little to write about here!

#29

Posted by: Martin Brock | December 5, 2009 11:26 AM

This forum is all about anger and paranoia. No one drives you to it. You dive in head first.

#30

Posted by: Andyman | December 5, 2009 11:28 AM

Ahhhhh... Palin, the left fear her because she's an attractive, Christian, moral woman therefore they must denigrate her.

Nah just pulling your chain, the left fear her because of the irreparable mess she has the potential to make all over the world, not just in America. I wouldn't trust her with a bag of maggots.

#31

Posted by: Naked Bunny with a Whip | December 5, 2009 11:29 AM

Yeah, nothing says "humble" like claiming you have the omnipotent ruler of the universe on speed dial.

#32

Posted by: Gruesome Rob | December 5, 2009 11:30 AM

No one drives you to it.

Actually, fools like you do.

#33

Posted by: MAJeff, OM Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:31 AM

Ahhhhh... Palin, the left fear her because she's an attractive, Christian, moral woman therefore they must denigrate her.

I loved Jon Stewart's take on this:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-18-2009/daily-show--the-rogue-warrior

#34

Posted by: Lynna | December 5, 2009 11:33 AM

@#5

The interview with her supporters was particularly amusing

Whoa, Nellie! One of the people interviewed (older man, toward the end of the video) said, "I'm very much afraid of what's happening in America." After watching those interviews, so am I.

The interviewer did a good job of getting people to reveal how shallow (or even nonexistent) Palin's policies are -- or how her supporters' knowledge of her few memorable policies is almost nonexistent.

One man said he got his information from Fox News, from church groups and from clubs. He seemed to think there was a massive wave of partial-birth abortions sweeping the nation.

Most oft-repeated phrase: "I'm an American!" Hearing that over and over was just disturbing since most of them were displaying ignorance like a battle flag.

#35

Posted by: Drew Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:34 AM

Here is Palin's Twitter status this morning:

Leaving chilly TX (poor evidence of global warming today)

Of course she would know.

#36

Posted by: mikeinmaine | December 5, 2009 11:38 AM

Now Todd Palin. Now there's cut of meat for you.

I'd like to stuff a sock in his mouth.

#37

Posted by: Matt Penfold | December 5, 2009 11:38 AM

Most oft-repeated phrase: "I'm an American!" Hearing that over and over was just disturbing since most of them were displaying ignorance like a battle flag.

What is it with American politics that there seems to be a competition between politicians to be more patriotic than their opponents ?


#38

Posted by: Martin Brock | December 5, 2009 11:39 AM

Actually, fools like you do.

Someday, maybe you'll learn to accept responsibility for your own thoughts.

#39

Posted by: Arthur | December 5, 2009 11:43 AM

People like Sarah Palin are doing our job for us by pushing the moderate majority away from religion.

8 years of George W's God-infused rhetoric was one reason for the large upturn in non-theism and atheism.

The more they talk, the worse Christianity looks to most people. Let them talk.

#40

Posted by: co | December 5, 2009 11:43 AM

Andyman, #30:

I wouldn't trust her with a bag of maggots.

I love it. I'm sitting here, pissed off about travel conditions in the country due to the Houston snow, and that just made me roar. Thanks!

#41

Posted by: Adamvs Maximvs | December 5, 2009 11:44 AM

Unrelated, but does anyone know where I can find some good high-resolution Scanning Electron Microscope pictures like the ones in SciAm's annual competition (too bad SciAm's are all pretty low res). I'd like to put some on my wall of my place instead of landscape paintings or the usual. Expressing my geekiness and such. Hi-Res Geology or Astronomy photos would be great too.

Thanks everyone
Adamvs

#42

Posted by: Chris | December 5, 2009 11:49 AM

Interesting how they have to dress up prayer so much to make it seem acceptable.

If she said in literal terms "we must attempt as a nation to telepathically communicate with the creator of the universe who exists in some unknown dimension, so that maybe he'll throw us a bone and tell us what to do using his infinite wisdom," it sounds ridiculous.

But "Godly council" and "protective hand of God" is just vague enough to sound legit.

#43

Posted by: AJ Milne OM Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:50 AM

No one person has all the right answers...

While this is occasionally a valuable thing to keep in mind, there is somethin' a bit precious about it, in the context...

(/Coming, as it is, from someone who has all the wrong ones.)

#44

Posted by: ali | December 5, 2009 11:51 AM

First I thought she was calling for the United Nations.

I am surprised she uses such dirty words at all.

#45

Posted by: mothwentbad Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 11:52 AM

#30 -

You think Palin would condescend to do the necessary maggot research (in Paris, France, I kid you not) one would need to do to wreak such havoc?

#46

Posted by: Casey | December 5, 2009 11:56 AM

It's particularly ironic since part of the reason we're in such a mess right now is 8 years of an Admin that made decisions based on prayer, "God's wisdom", and basically just impulses from the gut, instead of fact-checking and thinking critically about the long-term effect of its policies. Palin's recommendations are a recipe to continue that slide into a less safe, prosperous, equal and just nation.

Lynna - it will never cease to amaze me how most of these people, I'm pretty sure, operate mainly out of fear. I can't imagine living like that, but I really think it's the main factor that drives them and influences their decisions.

#47

Posted by: co | December 5, 2009 12:07 PM

Adamvs, #41: http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html

Not SEM images, but hi-res and geeky nonetheless.

#48

Posted by: Steve | December 5, 2009 12:09 PM

Brock,

Your concerns are noted, as is your pot informing the kettle that it reflects back no light in the visible spectrum.

#49

Posted by: Nomen Publicus | December 5, 2009 12:09 PM

Unlike some, I find nothing likeable
in Palin at all. She seems to be
the archetypical political PR
construct. Even those glasses seem
to be merely a prop.

I hope she isn't spoiling the ground
for other, better qualified, badly
needed women candidates.

#50

Posted by: sikiş | December 5, 2009 12:09 PM

Arachnologist and diplopodologist Dr Jason E Bond at East Carolina University in Greenville, NC, is most recently well-known for naming a spider (Myrmekiaphila neilyoungi) after Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, Neil Young. Kristin Day of The Daily Reflector.

#51

Posted by: IaMoL | December 5, 2009 12:11 PM

Without the Sarah Palins of the world, you'd have little to write about here.
No, you'll do in a pinch. You're another entity in the Heddle/SilverFox subgroup of cranks.
#52

Posted by: Dave Dell | December 5, 2009 12:22 PM

How appropriate is it that the GOP's chosen symbol is and elephant? In Sarah Palin we have a self-proclaimed rogue female elephant. As such she is not only a threat to the "Huckabee" reactionary right wing of the Republican party but is a threat to the "Romney" monied right of center interests that have long used the church goin', gun totin' masses to retain and expand their power.

Rogue elephant is a term for a lone, violently aggressive wild elephant. Traditionally in the Safari Movies of my youth they were male elephants not in a herd. They were never the main plotline of the movie but were used to exhibit the dominance of the hunters over raw nature.

The monied interests of the GOP won't use a gun to get rid of Sarah. They have sufficient time before December of 2010 to insure any campaign she might envsion will fail for lack of money and seasoned political operatives.

#53

Posted by: Menyambal | December 5, 2009 12:35 PM

The women of my family have mixed feelings about Sara Palin. Yesterday, my mom told me that she admires Sarah Palin. Mom is as liberal a lady as you'll ever be fortunate to meet, so this caught me by surprise. Her admiration is not for SP's politics, though, but for her family values. Another family female is a big fan of SP's politics, but that particular girl was never all there.

My older sister had a copy of Vanity Fair (I think it was) with an interview of Levi Johnston, Bristol's baby daddy. He says that the Palin's family image is a total sham--Sarah is NOT a hockey mom--which did not startle me at all. When I mentioned that article to my wife, she said, "Well, Duh! I realized that when I first saw the family on TV. The little girl was holding the baby and taking expert care of it, while Sarah ignored them both."

Most people who like Sarah Palin say they like her because she is "just like us". Which seems to me to be a damn poor way to choose a leader, and seems also to be very narcissistic.

Speaking of narcissism, have you noticed that Sarah and Todd Palin look like each other? I made a slideshow video speculating that such was their motivation for falling in love.

#54

Posted by: Deiloh | December 5, 2009 12:38 PM

Bridget Bishop would have disagreed with Sarah Palin.

#55

Posted by: hyoid | December 5, 2009 12:45 PM

Chris @ 42
Interesting how they have to dress up prayer so much to make it seem acceptable.

If she said in literal terms "we must attempt as a nation to telepathically communicate with the creator of the universe who exists in some unknown dimension, so that maybe he'll throw us a bone and tell us what to do using his infinite wisdom," it sounds ridiculous.

But "Godly council" and "protective hand of God" is just vague enough to sound legit.

(Chris, thanks, I needed that. Juxtapositioning is pure gold!)

#56

Posted by: fireweaver | December 5, 2009 12:51 PM

RE #47

Those images look positively BIOLOGICAL.

#57

Posted by: Alec | December 5, 2009 1:00 PM

"I think if we can get back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier nation."

Get back to that? We were never AT that to begin with! This country was founded on SECULAR beliefs! And has been run by people with religious beliefs, but this country has never been a Christian Nation. Only idiots in Christian families think that because they're too self-centered to think that a entire country wouldn't be centered around them.

#58

Posted by: littlejohn | December 5, 2009 1:02 PM

On "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" today, a panelist revealed that in "Going Rogue," Palin attributed a quote about his ancestors dying for land to coach John Wooden. Turns out the quote was actually from American Indian John Woodenlegs. Didn't Palin's ghostwriter even wonder why a coach's ancestors died for their land?
I absolutely love Sarah Palin, and you should too. She's the best thing to happen to liberals since Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig.
Now that Mike Huckabee has his own Willie Horton problem, Sarah has the Republican base pretty much to herself.
Please, please let them nominate her for president. You just know she's too stupid to understand she shouldn't try to debate Obama. In fact, she'll refuse offers to help her prep for it. I can't wait.

#59

Posted by: Dorkman | December 5, 2009 1:10 PM

Yes, this is just your standard collection of ignorant right-wing canards about "God and unity and freedom and stuff," but relatively speaking let's be honest: this is actually about the least retarded thing Sarah Palin has said on record. It's no different than a huge swath of Americans believe and if it weren't coming from Palin specifically, it wouldn't even register on the radar of dumb things politicians say.

And yes, she's just going to keep the hits coming. She's like a child who craves attention and knows how to get it. And she likes negative attention even more than positive, because it makes her feel courageous, so it's a no-brainer (fortunately for her) to get exactly what she wants. I think we can expect this to last until at least 2012, after which perhaps the media will tire of her in favor of the newer cranks that will inevitably make their way out of the woodwork.

#60

Posted by: Carlie | December 5, 2009 1:26 PM

She seems to be doing her best to piss off even her supporters. She quit a book signing at a B&N in Indiana after she got tired of signing books, even though a few hundred people were still waiting in line (and had been forced to buy the book there; they weren't allowed to bring previously-purchased copies in). Apparently a lot of them promptly returned the book for a refund. http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/angry-crowd-shouts-at-sarah-palin-book-signing-tour/

#61

Posted by: btj Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 1:36 PM

Not surprisingly, Palin's comments demonstate a profound ignorance of the principles underlying the Constitution in particular, and democracy in general. No, "it" (whatever it is) doesn't require a "united nation." The whole purpose of our governmental system is to equitably manage disputes between competing interests and to allow people of different beliefs to live together peacefully. The system she describes sounds a bit more like North Korea.

#62

Posted by: cag Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 1:46 PM

Sarah Palin has said the United States should rededicate itself to seeking God's will.
gods wont.
#63

Posted by: Insightful Ape Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 2:19 PM

Hey Martin the troll.
Do we know already why the most holier than thou part of the country (the south) does not happen to be either healthier, or safer, or more prosperous than the rest?

#64

Posted by: Dr. P | December 5, 2009 2:35 PM

Sick of her? She's your reason for being. Without the Sarah Palins of the world, you'd have little to write about here.
Brilliant. So, love to mock the stupidity equals having no other thing to write about. Pay attention to word content, each word has meaning, and you're quickly stripping them of any true meaning at all. Rather like Palin ,actually.What disturbs me most when she speaks is that she actually says little or nothing most of the time.A plethora of words adding up to nothing, the intellectual equivalence to the Atkins diet in the food-for-thought realm and most of the media DOES'T NOTICE.
#65

Posted by: Sastra | December 5, 2009 2:41 PM

No one person has all the right answers. It takes a united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity.

Uh huh. The last way you're going to "unite" a nation is by asking people to take their counsel from God, and then bring what God told you into the public square. There's a little problem with working out who was really listening to God, and who was only interpreting their own feelings as the voice of God.

A few years back I wrote a letter to my local paper in response to some church-state issue, and wrote that religion doesn't unite people, it divides them. Someone promptly wrote a reply, which basically said that no, religion does unite people -- and if I don't like that I can just leave and find another country. I didn't bother with counter-reply on that one: I felt it supported my original point all too clearly.

Andyman #30 wrote:

I wouldn't trust her with a bag of maggots.

I wouldn't either. I'd think "a bag of maggots?? WTF!!" and be very suspicious on what she's up to now.

I probably wouldn't trust Andyman with one, either. Or anyone. Unless they're literally on their way to feeding something that eats maggots. And then I'd wonder what it is, and why they're feeding it, and why the maggots are in a bag.

The whole situation just opens up a can of worms (and who manufactures those, and for what purpose?)

#66

Posted by: blf | December 5, 2009 2:55 PM

Who manufactures [a can of worms], and for what purpose?

Can-O-Worms.

#67

Posted by: MadScientist | December 5, 2009 2:57 PM

Holy crap. I always worry about the "god answering" bit. Dubbyah spoke to god and did as told and look at the mess we're in. God also spoke to Osama Bin Laden and he listened too. God: no bigger asshole. That or there are just numerous delusional assholes like Sarah Palin who try to get their way with the world and screw everyone else over by exploiting the dimwits who are afraid of god by saying "god told me to do it". Let's see - was it Abraham? "Hey, god told me to kill my child so it must be good." Yeah, I don't want that asshole anywhere near me or anywhere near public schools; he's far worse than any pedophile. And for the whiny people who say they have a loving god - learn to read, because the bible really shows otherwise.

#68

Posted by: colluvial | December 5, 2009 3:09 PM

No one person has all the right answers.
And then she goes on to give us the "right" answer: blah, blah God blah, blah prayer blah, blah blessings. I guess for her "I don't need to read the book, I've seen the cover" fans, keywords are all that matters.

It is impressive though that she's careful not to make any claims that could ever be refuted.
#69

Posted by: eric | December 5, 2009 3:21 PM

Maybe she has an answer to Who Would Jesus Bomb?

#70

Posted by: Tony P | December 5, 2009 3:24 PM

I just finished Blumenthal's "Republican Gommorah" and I can tell you that she's bucking for a 2012 Presidential run.

But bat shit crazy 3rd Wave Pentecostalists like herself don't have a chance.

Their numbers simply aren't large enough.

#71

Posted by: Kerim Mansour | December 5, 2009 3:29 PM

When you take her "No one person has all the right answers." you might realize that the problem with people like Sarah is that in her case "one person has no answer at all". No wonder she waits for godly intervention.

#72

Posted by: Torrie | December 5, 2009 3:31 PM

Martin Brock #29

This forum is all about anger and paranoia. No one drives you to it. You dive in head first.

Martin, the only angry and paranoid people here are Christians. We are here because we love logic, truth and science and we feel sorry for the sheeples who are misguided by their religious leaders. They are living a life impoverished with guilt and susperstition, when they could be having a grand old time and living it up with the one and only life humans get. We are altruistic and wish to help our fellow man/woman out of the cult of religion. We have no motive except for the betterment of mankind.

#73

Posted by: doug l | December 5, 2009 3:33 PM

When Palin says stupid stuff it's not news, it's media manipulation and has the same relationship to genuine news that cotton candy has to wholesome nutrition....and if you're just now "sick of her already" you've already suffering malnutrition. My suggestion, for everyone, is to turn off your TV except to watch a minimum amount of the actual news, avoid the cable tv noise machine, and be critical of all leadership. Consider the environment in which it arose and you will certainly agree that all of it has a high probablility of contamination no matter how much we wish it weren't so.
Keep in mind that political parties are designed to win elections and need not have any relationship to ideology. It wasn't too long ago that both parties contained a wide range of perspectives but cable TV has turned that into something tantamount to treason; imagine to be conservative and a democrat?! Horrors! Of course that's how it seems it should be to those who confuse political discussion for professional sports, which if you look at it objectively, is exactly how the media treats it..and why not? It's one of the juiciest and most succulent chunks profit it is guaranteed to get every few years, allowing them to live like princes as long as they can push our buttons and make us glue our eyeballs on that miserable drek disguised as "news".

#74

Posted by: cag Author Profile Page | December 5, 2009 3:37 PM

Hey, don't give god a bad time. He's just joined a 12 step program and is having a bad time with step 1.

1. Exist

2 to 12. Ditto

#75

Posted by: MadScientist | December 5, 2009 3:47 PM

@gman: Palin was always in with the birthers. She implied on several occasions in public that perhaps Obama is not even American. Although she didn't say it outright, how can anyone trust such a weasel (my apologies to mustelids everywhere). The intent to deceive is clear. John McCain should have put her across his lap and given her a good spanking. Ever since, McCain has had to address birthers on his campaign tour.

#76

Posted by: amon | December 5, 2009 3:49 PM

I find her an admirable woman, I really do - surely there are few better advertisments for atheism than Sarah Palin?

#77

Posted by: Mark A. Siefert | December 5, 2009 4:23 PM

@ Tony P Re: #70

No, but there are plenty of Republicans who are members of other Christian denominations who would also support her. My father is a Catholic and he practically jizzes his tidy-whities at the mention of her name.

#78

Posted by: mena | December 5, 2009 4:25 PM

If being lame and annoying worked for Madonna and Britney Spears all these years, why wouldn't she also go with it?

#79

Posted by: rmw | December 5, 2009 4:31 PM

@78

Fortunately for us, Madonna and Britney have shown little interest in politics. Too bad the same can't be said for Palin.

#80

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | December 5, 2009 4:39 PM

When Palin says stupid stuff it's not news, it's media manipulation and has the same relationship to genuine news that cotton candy has to wholesome nutrition

No when Palin says stupid stuff, it's just stupid stuff except that she has a whole huge portion of the population that eats it up. Media or not.

Going into complete media shutdown is fine if you want to stick your fingers in your ears. But, whether you like it or not, it's what we have and as long as people like Palin get support by running their fat mouths on the boob tube, then other people need to be there to shoot down her idiocy.

#81

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote | December 5, 2009 4:51 PM

Am I alone in thinking it would be wonderful if some hunter in a helicopter would put her down with a gut shot?

#82

Posted by: puseaus | December 5, 2009 5:17 PM

#81 You are probably not alone, but a solution more in line with the modern principles of humanism would be to place her securely where she belongs, at the political scrapyard. She is a resourceful woman and can do a lot of good work I am sure, but it's up to the American people to direct her responsively.

#83

Posted by: littlejohn | December 5, 2009 5:31 PM

Coyote@81: No, a gut shot wouldn't do it. Her brain has to be destroyed. So aim for her ass.

#84

Posted by: MGG | December 5, 2009 5:35 PM

Sorry Martin Brock (#23), but my reason for being is Felids. Besides, we would still exist without those people, and we would just fill that time and writing space with other stuff.

#85

Posted by: puseaus | December 5, 2009 5:44 PM

Myself @82: Responsibly was the term, dammit.

#86

Posted by: THE YumaMamaLama | December 5, 2009 5:58 PM

Personally, I find SP and her ilk to be chilling. Because the YouTube video of the people at her book signing shows that these folks displayed an amazing lack of knowledge -- or shame about that lack -- about the beliefs and statements by the woman they admire so much is quite revealing, it also scares me. I mean, these people vote and have children!!! They worry about this country losing it's status in the world? They worry about our country going down the toilet, about us losing our freedom, etc.? They are the reason for these things they worry about!

#87

Posted by: Karen in AZ | December 5, 2009 6:12 PM

Sarah Palin is currently a huge annoyance, but little else. She really can't be taken seriously, and I predict she won't be around in 2010, let alone 2012. How do I know this? Simple. Look at her record. What has she ever done to prove she has either the brains or the discipline to be a serious person? She just quits when it gets a little more difficult than just throwing out one-liners to the morons who want instant solutions to complex problems. She'll lose her whatever appeal she still has the next time there's an "incident" that takes real intellect to deal with. She's not going to run for office -- all she wants is money, and now she has some. The trick will be trying to go back for more. A one-trick pony if ever I've seen one.

#88

Posted by: Carlie | December 5, 2009 6:20 PM

I don't think that wishing death on someone is a good thing, even in jest. That takes one down to the level of the likes of Glenn Beck, which, eww.

What I've never understood is how anyone was ever impressed with her in the first place, ever. Just one glance at a picture or video of her shows that she has a vapid, incurious look. It's something abut the eyes - maybe it comes from years of looking at students and correlating it with performance, but I think it's easy to tell when there's really nothing going on upstairs. Not stupidity, exactly, just a complete lack of curiosity or understanding. No matter how folksy and flirty and whatever she tried to be in her speeches, her eyes were always zombie eyes.

#89

Posted by: Gruesome Rob | December 5, 2009 6:51 PM

Someday, maybe you'll learn to accept responsibility for your own thoughts.

Coming from someone with an imaginary friend, that's rich.

#90

Posted by: sioux laris | December 5, 2009 7:05 PM

SP really is like the wet dream made flesh of the insane 23% of 'Mer'kin kNOw-Nothings. Sort of like that "goddess of Love" in Angel (Season 4), Jasmine, if she had joined forces with Wolfram & Hart, that is.

I avoid here, living in a foreign country, easily, but she is an appalling person: utterly and blithely dishonest, corrupt, greedy, unintelligent, vindictive, selectively forgetful, and manipulative.
That is, Palin/Beck would make the ultimate "Republican" ticket. It should run in 2012, and every four years afterwords, forever. Even if the wingnuts have to mummify the corpses of their "idulls" and implant devices loaded with randomized pre-recorded rants inside.*

*Maybe they could implant lazers in the eyes as well. "The faithfull" would believe much more deeply if one of them, kowtowing before the throne, was burned to a crisp occasionally.

#91

Posted by: wrpd | December 5, 2009 7:34 PM

"No one person has all the right answers. It takes a united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity.

I think if we can get back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier nation."

When we get back to that???? When were we ever there? It's like people who romanticize the 50s. It wasn't all great for a lot of people.
On a related, serious topic, where is Todd??? The First Dood is MIA. He doesn't have a real job, does he? What can he be doing?

#92

Posted by: Rorschach | December 5, 2009 7:34 PM

Sarah Palin is a good representative of the dumbly nationalistic, uneducated and religious slice of the american population.
And while I think there is still enough intelligent people and knowledge of history around in the US to expose Palin's lack of substance and integrity in an election cycle and prevent her from reaching any important public office, she can still have a big influence.

As I've said in another thread, folks like Beck and maybe also Palin would be locked away in Germany for Volksverhetzung, and not be influential public figures.

#93

Posted by: David Marjanović, OM | December 5, 2009 7:55 PM

Volksverhetzung

Public incitement to hate and violence.

#94

Posted by: Barney | December 5, 2009 8:03 PM

I'm going to donate to her (as yet unannounced) 2012 run...here's why. In verse (sorry, she makes me emotional).

I think that I love Palin and
Her cheeky gone rogue grin,
A wink to me and you confirms
The parlous state we're in.

But don't get too complacent,
We must fund her '12 campaign
For with her on the ticket,
Barack will win again.

#95

Posted by: Martin Brock | December 6, 2009 1:14 AM

Martin, the only angry and paranoid people here are Christians.

You're wearing blinders. I don't see many Christians here at all. I see loads of anger and paranoia. I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt, and I'm not half as paranoid about the "religious right" as some of the people here.

We are here because we love logic, truth and science and we feel sorry for the sheeples who are misguided by their religious leaders.

Maybe you are. I don't know who "we" is supposed to describe.

We have no motive except for the betterment of mankind.

That's inspiring. I'm just killing time here.

#96

Posted by: Moggie Author Profile Page | December 6, 2009 4:55 AM

#88:

What I've never understood is how anyone was ever impressed with her in the first place, ever. Just one glance at a picture or video of her shows that she has a vapid, incurious look. It's something abut the eyes - maybe it comes from years of looking at students and correlating it with performance, but I think it's easy to tell when there's really nothing going on upstairs. Not stupidity, exactly, just a complete lack of curiosity or understanding. No matter how folksy and flirty and whatever she tried to be in her speeches, her eyes were always zombie eyes.

This sounds like woo. Judging by her job performance and utterances, she is indeed as bad as you say, but if you can tell that from one glance at a photo, James Randi has a million dollars waiting for you.

#97

Posted by: DuckPhup | December 6, 2009 6:52 AM

Surely, up there in Wasilla, some creotard has got a video clip of ex-govilf Palin writhing on the floor and humping the air in religious ecstasy, as she babbles incoherently, speaking-in-tongues. One of these atheist 'foundations' ought to set up a fund... raise about $10,000... then take out an ad in the local newspaper (the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman), and offer it as a reward for that video.

#98

Posted by: Carlie | December 6, 2009 6:53 AM

Woo? Oh, come on. As the wise Christopher Walken once said, your eyes are the window to your face.
But really, you don't think you can tell when someone is actively engaged in what's going on around them v. floating off elsewhere in their own dreamland? That's just basic human social skills. Maybe it was a little hyperbolic to say from one picture, but she always looks vapid to me. Always.

#99

Posted by: J-Ball | December 6, 2009 8:07 AM

No one person has all the right answers. It takes a united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity.

I think if we can get back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier nation.

And that is exactly why I found the thought of her in the White House exceedingly scary.

And there's no doubt she's thanking her god for blessings of prosperity now that she's quit her government job so she could keep the money from fleecing the sheep. And they come in throngs to her book signings. She charges them money for the opportunity to have their photo taken with her -- $16 for an 8x10, $35 for larger sizes.

#100

Posted by: No BS | December 6, 2009 9:51 AM

Stuart:

"What is it about Sarah Palin, I just find her disturbingly attractive?"

A bottle of wine, and a line of bullshit, and you're in. That's what your "genes" are responding too.

#101

Posted by: No BS | December 6, 2009 9:54 AM

That would be "responding to.".

#102

Posted by: Coragyps | December 6, 2009 11:20 AM

Totally OT, other than the political slant, but wonderfully oxymoronic:

Outside my younger daughter's graduation (Master's, Information Science) yesterday, my son saw a man that he was certain was Karl Rove. I doubted that, until I saw his nametag for myself. He was attending the annual meeting of the Philosophical Society of Texas in the same building.

WTF?

And I never even thought to bring a harpoon to graduation.

#103

Posted by: michael mastropaolo | December 6, 2009 1:07 PM

Wow. If I ever need to figure out a good name (or scores of bad names) to call someone I don't like, I will most definitely reference the evolutionist's scientific forums such as this (oops, is evolutionist a bad word?- I promise I didn't mean anything by it...)- Huh, I just read some more of the comments and I believe your mothers would have you whipped for talking like foul-mouthed, ill-behaved youths!

#104

Posted by: hznfrst | December 6, 2009 1:41 PM

Sarah Palin's America: Touched in the head by God Swill!

#105

Posted by: Paul A. | December 6, 2009 3:04 PM

Statements like this from prominent politicians (OK, once prominent)just send shivers down my spine.

#106

Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM Author Profile Page | December 6, 2009 3:13 PM

Huh, I just read some more of the comments and I believe your mothers would have you whipped for talking like foul-mouthed, ill-behaved youths!
Spoken like an idgit godbot, who doesn't understand spirited debate. After all, you are used to bowing down to authority. We aren't. And compared to you, we are authorities.
#107

Posted by: 'Tis Himself, Quel Dommage Author Profile Page | December 6, 2009 3:19 PM

(oops, is evolutionist a bad word?- I promise I didn't mean anything by it...)

So, asshole, what is this comment supposed to mean? That you're a creationist fucktard? That your head is so firmly up your rectum that you're on a first name basis with your appendix? Or that you just generally despise science?

#108

Posted by: Moggie Author Profile Page | December 6, 2009 3:49 PM

#98:

Woo? Oh, come on. As the wise Christopher Walken once said, your eyes are the window to your face.

And as the wise Anna Faris once said, the eyes are the nipples of the face. We could all learn a lot from Hollywood.

But really, you don't think you can tell when someone is actively engaged in what's going on around them v. floating off elsewhere in their own dreamland? That's just basic human social skills.

When I meet them, or observe them in, say, an interview? Sure. As the wise Harry Hill once said, you can tell a lot about someone's personality from what they're like. But we still need to beware of confirmation bias. By the time I see a VP candidate, I'll almost certainly have heard or read something about her, and it's quite likely that I'll find her appearance confirms the opinion I'd already started to form. I'll also tend to remember those occasions when my initial impression of someone turned out to be accurate, and tend to forget the times it was less accurate.

But from "one glance at a picture"?

Maybe it was a little hyperbolic to say from one picture, but she always looks vapid to me. Always.

Yes, it was an exaggeration. If I may paraphrase, you effectively wrote "I don't understand why people didn't just judge her based on immediate gut reaction to her pictures". That's crazy talk, whichever side it's coming from.

#109

Posted by: Moggie Author Profile Page | December 6, 2009 3:54 PM

#103:

I believe your mothers would have you whipped for talking like foul-mouthed, ill-behaved youths!

I prefer being whipped by your mother: she's much more professional at it!

#110

Posted by: withheld | December 6, 2009 11:54 PM

and, she'll be at the Barnes & Noble, Mall of America, Bloomington, MN tomorrow (12/7) at noon.

#111

Posted by: DGKnipfer | December 7, 2009 2:25 PM

Oh look, a concern troll at #103. He’s afraid we might say something offensive so he starts of by attempting a backhanded insult designed to offend. The hypocrisy is underwhelming and the stupid burns so brightly.

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