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Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 21, 2010 9:37 PM
i'm currently editing mine... will be up shortly. the writeup will have to wait, since it's turning out far longer than anticipated :-p
Posted by: Capital Dan
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June 21, 2010 9:48 PM
Looks like Torchwood: Norway to me.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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June 21, 2010 9:53 PM
Looks like folks I could hang out with. Looks like someone might have lost their demon eyes.
Posted by: Janine, The Little Top Of Venom, OM
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June 21, 2010 9:55 PM
These are the people who cause the deeply religious and conservative to whine to their gods and the nearest media outlets?
Posted by: Wowbagger, Man-Hating Man of Pharyngula
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June 21, 2010 10:09 PM
Is that James Randi on the far left? :)
Posted by: Glen Davidson
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June 21, 2010 10:20 PM
Will we get names sometime?
It would be nice, if the people don't mind.
Glen Davidson
Posted by: ~Pharyngulette~
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June 21, 2010 10:25 PM
Mmm! Nerd boys and geeky girls. You are my people! Waiting to hear the stories first-hand...
Posted by: Wowbagger, Man-Hating Man of Pharyngula
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June 21, 2010 10:28 PM
Yeah, as I noted somewhere else, you could all pick me out of a lineup after the pics from the GAC; turnabout, as they say, is fair play.
Posted by: Mattir-ritated
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June 21, 2010 10:29 PM
I am so jealous.
Posted by: Sven DiMilo
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June 21, 2010 10:29 PM
I'll take a shot:
KG, windy, Rorschach, Jadehawk, ?, Marjanović, teh ECO, ?, Kristjan Wager?, ?, ?
Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 21, 2010 10:30 PM
pfft, where's the fun in just telling you? guess! :-pand btw, that's not James Randi. Try again ;-)
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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June 21, 2010 10:37 PM
The guy on the left looks like someone who recently retired from work. But I don't see him at an atheist convention. Is that Dania on the right?
Posted by: AndrewTheEternal
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June 21, 2010 10:43 PM
I'd watch that show, and I don't even like Torchwood.Posted by: Patricia, OM
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June 21, 2010 11:03 PM
Wow, these are the folks that make Big Bad Bill so furious? Who would have guessed!
Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 21, 2010 11:05 PM
yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes :-)Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 21, 2010 11:09 PM
also, moar pictures
Posted by: Dave A
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June 21, 2010 11:24 PM
Get off your ass and give us the details. I think you might want to check out the benefits of Milk Thistle.
Posted by: First Approximation, L'esprit de l'escalier
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June 22, 2010 2:12 AM
lol, it really does. Are they all going to sleep with on another and every other alien on Earth?
Posted by: Rider1
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June 22, 2010 2:23 AM
I don't see any bibs and eating babies is so messy!
Posted by: jennyxyzzy
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June 22, 2010 2:30 AM
Rider1,
That's because you're doing it wrong - you're supposed to roast the babies before eating them - then it's not messy at all...
Posted by: Rutee, Shrieking Harpy of Dooooom
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June 22, 2010 2:31 AM
...Feynman, you should know this already, given your nym. They ALREADY HAVE. Keep up, please.
(http://xkcd.com/182/)
Posted by: Ye Olde Blacksmith
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June 22, 2010 2:32 AM
What!? A diverse group of people with different perspectives gathering to civilly discuss matters of agreement AND disagreement? The horror!!! Think of the children!!!1!!
Seriously, Copenhagen was great. Interestingly, for myself, it was the conversations between and after the talks that I found most engaging. Meeting some of the “famous” speakers was a real treat too, but I thought they would be taller.
I also want to give a shout out to Kristjan Wager who opened up his home to a bunch of strangers (strangers in meatspace, anyway). His generosity and trust enabled many of us on a budget to be able to attend. He was a great host and spent a lot of time and energy guiding us around Copenhagen.
I’m a redneck(ish) atheist blacksmith from Texas. Can you spot me in the picture?I think that after my experience in Copenhagen, I shall have to stop my lurking and participate more.
Posted by: ultim8fury
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June 22, 2010 2:57 AM
Oh, so that's why you lot went round there whilst waiting for the boat to arrive.
I had a great time in CPH. Met some really great people, heard some amazing talks and I'm looking forward to Dublin next year.
Great to meet you all,
Regards,
Simon
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 22, 2010 3:10 AM
Good! You're great fun.As I said elsewhere I didn't recognise Rorschach despite the pictures from Melbourne. It does help when someone points out who's who, yes. Though of course the poor CEO can't keep track of us anymore.
Randi jr. is quite handsome, yes.
Posted by: McCthulhu is taking ∞ to eat all the pi
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June 22, 2010 3:14 AM
I think I recognize those in the photo. Aren't these the same things that have been referred to as 'ugly bags of mostly water,' 'carbon units,' and are located somewhere on the radial tree of life? Oh yeah! Now I got it, brassica oleracea capitata! I knew it would come to me eventually.
Wait. No, that can't be right...?
Posted by: Rider1
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June 22, 2010 3:22 AM
Shit, I've been eating them raw! What sort of heathen am I. Does the same sort of stuffing as poultry work?
Posted by: Kristjan Wager
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June 22, 2010 4:31 AM
First of all, I have been identified already, but yes, I am the guy in the black t-shirt, who could stand to loose some weight.
It was a pleasure. Seriously, it was a great experience, and I'd recommend anyone to do the same if there is a horde of pharyngulites in their city for some reason or other.
Posted by: First Approximation, L'esprit de l'escalier
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June 22, 2010 4:45 AM
Oh. When will we see pictures of that?
I'm sure they were diverse in many ways, but ethnically speaking they looked just about as diverse a Republican convention. :P
Posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawnG39uMFt69kwCKZ8DoxtmMCvmzr5chx94
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June 22, 2010 4:47 AM
Is the first one on the left KnockGoats? Doesn't look like someone who calls people "idiot" for practically no reason at all. Well, as they say, never judge a book by its cover.
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 5:05 AM
windy is in the picture, but Dania is unfortunately not...
As I told PZ, I'm wearing glasses. They block the laser sometimes.
But, hey, at least I'm wearing my Scientific Triassicism T-shirt.
Sili looks and talks like I should have expected, windy differs from my very general expectations, KG and TrineBM were surprises, and while (to my surprise) I managed to get Jadehawk's voice right from the way she writes (lowercase and all), her meatspace equivalent to :-p doesn't involve sticking the tongue out however slightly.* Instead, it's a remarkably toothy grin. :-)
* So I was utterly wrong to adopt it and turn it into the properly nerdy :-þ . Oh well. Even :-月 doesn't work, does it.
Seconded.
"Practically"... :-月
Posted by: TrineBM
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June 22, 2010 5:19 AM
Every single individual in this babyeating horde is charming, eloquent and somewhat weird. All to be expected. (Why do I feel an urge to write 'are' instead of 'is' in this sentence? Maannnn English grammar sometimes confuses me before my third cup of coffee)
I really had a grand time meeting you all, and now miss your meatspace presence. Must enjoy your cyberpresence instead.
(I don't think I've ever been called a surprise before)
Posted by: Louis
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June 22, 2010 5:20 AM
Ok is it just me that looked at that photo and thought "there's a group of people who like like they should be on some sort of register"?
Not saying I wouldn't fit in, just that that was an early thought! ;-)
Louis
P.S. The important thing to note here is that I am not at all envious and lashing out at the utterly innocent. Nooooo envy here. None at all. Excuse me, I'm just off to throttle the cat.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 22, 2010 5:46 AM
"Should"?Posted by: Ye Olde Blacksmith
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June 22, 2010 6:24 AM
I had a similar thought while attending. But having attended a Republican convention and having attended this conference, about the only similarity between the two, I could find, was skin tone....
Sorry, I can think of another difference: There were conversations this weekend wanting to encourage more participation/dialogue with/from other groups (idealogically, ethnically, geographically, etc.) I didn't see any of that at the Republican convention, to be sure.
Posted by: McCthulhu is taking ∞ to eat all the pi
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June 22, 2010 6:27 AM
Feynmaniac @28: I bet you good money if you got DNA samples from everyone and checked their ancestry you would have some pretty epic diversity going on. Plus, if you go back far enough, everyone in the picture is really African. That kind of info should make a Republican's head explode, but maybe that's why they stick their heads in the bible so much, pretend they were created bleach white by the snowy-faced Jesus.
Posted by: Ye Olde Blacksmith
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June 22, 2010 6:28 AM
Sorry, I can think of another difference:I can think of one very important difference between the two: There were conversations this weekend wanting to encourage more participation/dialogue with/from other groups (idealogically, ethnically, geographically, etc.) I didn't see any of that at the Republican convention, to be sure.argh!
Posted by: KG
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June 22, 2010 6:42 AM
I'm on vacation there, Nerd! Relaxed, practising for being retired, you could say, but that's a few years off.
Hey, have I achieved the crusty English gentleman look without really trying? I thought it might require a handlebar moustache and monocle!
- some idiotSo you can, indeed, often judge by appearances!
Posted by: KG
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June 22, 2010 6:47 AM
Must go, my laptop is about to turn into a pumpkin!
Posted by: Aratina Cage
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June 22, 2010 7:28 AM
:) In Jadehawk's photos you've still got the glaring eyes, but instead of red they have an icy blue color, almost like they are being charged in preparation for a major blast.
Great pics nonetheless!
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp
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June 22, 2010 7:29 AM
And not a single one of them with horns.
I'm sorely disappointed.
Posted by: Walton, Marquis of Carabas
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June 22, 2010 7:34 AM
Knockgoats looks exactly how I pictured him. Jadehawk, on the other hand, is quite different from my mental image.
Posted by: Nerd of Redhead, OM
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June 22, 2010 7:41 AM
KG, when Sven made his guesses, I thought he was right. But you and Ron look very similar.
Posted by: Kel, The Privileged View From Nowhere
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June 22, 2010 7:45 AM
Someone needs to post a left-to-right. Apart from Rorschach, David M and PZ, I have no idea who any of these people are. (guessing from the comments that the left is KG)
Posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawntbkLlJwiX1gbzB1e7Fo4BfJhgc2TJuek
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June 22, 2010 7:47 AM
...and not a single one is holding a glass
of beer. Who was on Photoshop duty that
weekend?
Posted by: TrineBM
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June 22, 2010 7:55 AM
OK - KG, TrineBM, Rorschach, Jadehawk,(my mind blanks on your nym! Help me!) David M, PZ, our resident Blacksmith, Kristjan, Sili and Windy.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp
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June 22, 2010 7:55 AM
I second this. I recognized PZ (obviously), Kristjan, David, Rorshach and guessed at Jadehawk but beyond that, no idea.
KG at the far left and .....
Posted by: Wowbagger, Man-Hating Man of Pharyngula
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June 22, 2010 8:00 AM
David M - assuming that is David M, 6th in from the left - why do you look so rigid while everyone else is so relaxed?
Posted by: pistoreyu
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June 22, 2010 8:31 AM
Not really surprising, given his online persona over the years, but still charming to read. He'll say, of course, that he feels more than compensated, or something.I've often been in similar circumstances as a guest, receiving generous hospitality, and whenever I hear such a story, I feel somewhat cosmically thankful. Well, a bit personally, too: spreading sweetness and light does not fall into a void, but ripples.
Besides, if I understood it correctly, wasn't Kristjan responsible for proposing PZ's attendance in the first place?
Posted by: Rorschach
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June 22, 2010 8:32 AM
Thnaks for putting the pic up, PZ ! And I second the thanks to Kristjan for being such a great host and guide, even if I didnt stay at his place !
Had to overcome a museum emergency in the last 24 hours, arrived "home" and was confronted with my old 1996 vintage 433Mhz PC as internet connection, arghhhh...
Hurried to Cologne this morning and now happily typing on a mobile broadband dongle, much better !!
It was awesome meeting all these people, I have business with Rob the blacksmith planned, he can make custom Darwin fishes and squids, you should all check him out(He's the one between Kristjan and PZ in the pic) !!!
Posted by: Dania
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June 22, 2010 9:14 AM
I wish I could have been there too. Looks like you all had a great time together!
Posted by: Ibis3, féministe avec un titre française de fantaisie
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June 22, 2010 9:26 AM
Does that make PZed our Captain Jack?
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 9:32 AM
Which reminds me... Rorschach is one of those people who are mellower and more soft-spoken in meatspace than online. Even though he doesn't look like a teddy bear. :-)
Somehow I had imagined you older and fatter. Not sure why. In hindsight, it's completely obvious I should have expected someone very much like me, only a bit older, and socially awkward in an overlapping but different set of ways.
Strange. I need to look at the photos again. My eyes are supposed to be, you know, green; not "greenish blue" or something, but... yellowish olive maybe.
The one with the closest to icy eyes, BTW, is Jadehawk – gray, but bluish and greenish at the same time; I've never encountered that color before. Well, "icy" doesn't really fit, they don't look cold...
Beer was restricted to evenings and nights. The photo was taken in the very early afternoon.
maringo, IIRC.
1) I don't think I've ever put on a fake smile (I don't see the point); and too mild emotions don't necessarily reach my skin – I can basically forget to turn them on. Does look awkward when everyone else in a photo smiles while I have a pokerface even though I enjoy the situation just as much as everyone else...
2) The way I stand in the photo is the closest I can manage to standing relaxed. I'm not one of the many, many people who walk to the left with their left leg and to the right with their right leg, so they only end up walking straight ahead on average. (Do you notice how Jadehawk looks straight ahead but puts her left foot as if she wanted to run into PZ?) When I walk or run on snow or along a beach, my footprints are parallel like most dinosaurs'. In fact, I even like standing on the outer edges of my feet alone, with the legs parallel or even crossed. – Standing for longer than it took to take the photos requires considerable muscle effort and makes my knees hurt as if I had been walking for three hours, but that's another story.
3) I really am "a stroke in the landscape"; I don't need to pull myself together to look like one. Buying trousers is a two-day horror, because my size isn't even carried by most stores. It's the smallest of the long-and-thin ones (European size 90).
Posted by: First Approximation, L'esprit de l'escalier
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June 22, 2010 9:38 AM
Along with this picture, this just proves that it takes at most three Molly winners to summon our overlord.
"By your atheistic powers combined, I am PZ Myers!"
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 9:40 AM
Oh yes. Practical considerations aside, we should extend our next meetup to a whole month.
Posted by: Rorschach
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June 22, 2010 9:44 AM
Let me befriend a liver transplant surgeon before we do that.
Posted by: rident
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June 22, 2010 9:55 AM
Every great group photo needs a person with their eyes closed.
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 10:02 AM
Just did. The flash reflects somewhere in everyone's glasses, and that happens to be right in front of my eyes... :-D
Or just stop drinking.
Pharyngulites: people whose company you can enjoy even if you're not drunk. =8-)
Seriously, I consumed nothing in any of those bars except for, in total, two bottles of elderflower juice with ice cubes. Booze is simply not needed. :-)
Posted by: Ye Olde Blacksmith
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June 22, 2010 10:08 AM
A MONTH! I think we would have to hold it in a brewery. Hmmm...I think I know just the one, too.
Godless
Posted by: gr8hands
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June 22, 2010 10:11 AM
You're all standing there so stridently. Why such anger? Why such hatred? You need Jesus.
Ha, ha, ha. Sometimes I just laugh at the silly things I know a creationist will say.
Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 22, 2010 10:13 AM
sez you. i on the other hand would have not been able to spend that much time in the presence of that many people without becoming emotionally exhausted without a drug for lowering inhibitions. Certainly would have been more stressful, and therefore less fun.Posted by: Sven DiMilo
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June 22, 2010 10:14 AM
Huh, so I got windy wrong even with a 50/50 shot. Sorry, windy!
Everybody's IDed except for the guy in the back in the red shirt 5th from the left. Whoiz?
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 22, 2010 10:25 AM
Give it a few more years. Oh yes.Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 10:28 AM
Ah. I think I just ignore them all ("like trees in the forest" – Desmond Morris) except for the ones
I'm actually talking towhose conversation I'm listening to. As long as they also ignore me, it works.Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 10:35 AM
maringo, who almost always only lurks. (Same in meatspace, BTW. He was not heard and rarely seen.)
Posted by: Lynna, OM
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June 22, 2010 10:55 AM
Do you have boobs?Lovely to see you all. Just ignore the fact that Louis wants to register you as some kind of offenders. KG, nice "I'm trying on casual to see if it fits" look. Rorschach, nice "I'm a doctor in Copenhagen, and you're not" look.
Nice of David M. to stand that close to that many people.
Posted by: mistereveready
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June 22, 2010 12:37 PM
would have been more awesome if pz had some toy people on the side saying "home again, home again, jiggity jig." or the like. either way, glad you didn't get on a plane with someone screaming allah!
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 12:50 PM
Why? Speaking from experience, I'm not afraid of nerds, nor even bored by them. :-)
Posted by: Icaria
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June 22, 2010 12:54 PM
Prob already been said but god damn, all I could think of when looking at that pic, was someone needs to go about photoshopping leotards and capes into that shot.
I would but lazy, etc.
Posted by: Algernon, elle sans chapeau
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June 22, 2010 1:14 PM
Oh I just saw the other pics on jadehawks blog! You guys all look so cute :P
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 22, 2010 3:39 PM
Look closer.Posted by: Aratina Cage
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June 22, 2010 4:17 PM
I did, and I can't say that you have any resemblance to the people depicted in that journal you said you were featured in a while back or any resemblance to Sailor Bubba1. Wha' happened?
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 4:44 PM
Some of us are lovely enough, especially if you don't mean "guys" literally, but... did you click on the pics to see the full-sized versions? Man. One of them really points out my lopsided nose; it's even in the center of the picture. X-)
(Um. Don't take any pics down, Jadehawk. Truth in advertizing and all.)
Oh yeeeeeah. Now I remember. That must be why I expected Sili to look different, even though I had managed to suppress the memory of that photo from my consciousness.
Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 22, 2010 5:49 PM
crossposted from the endless tread: another part of the Copenhagen writeup
Posted by: Jadehawk, cascadeuse féministe
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June 22, 2010 5:53 PM
it's not nearly as bad, or noticeable, or whatever, as you seem to think. you've got a lot more other far more noticeable features, the nose pretty much disappears.Posted by: Algernon, elle sans chapeau
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June 22, 2010 5:58 PM
David M! All I noticed was the red hair :D
(red hair good)
Posted by: heatherly
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June 22, 2010 6:15 PM
Ye Old Blacksmith: You really are a blacksmith? If so...is it possible that I could ask you some questions? I have a kid (client) that is interested in being a blacksmith and I really don't know enough to talk with him about it, or give him some idea of what it's actually like to be one.
-Heatherly
(another nearly 99% lurker)
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 22, 2010 7:15 PM
I really must be 0 on the Kinsey scale, then; I seem to have no clue whatsoever about the female gaze :-D
Posted by: Leigh Williams, Feminist, OM
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June 22, 2010 7:37 PM
David, my eyes are also yellow-olive, and your hair is the same color as mine.
That demonstrates something, though I'm not sure what. Yellow eyes are pretty rare here in Texas. In fact, now that I look again, you look remarkably like my late cousin James Carroll Maddux.
I expect we're related somehow.
Posted by: Algernon, elle sans chapeau
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June 22, 2010 9:00 PM
Looking back at those pics Rorschach has the funniest expression in one, and Windy looks a bit like a friend of mine from highschool and a bit like Kim Deal (when she was younger rather than now).
Posted by: Emmet, OM
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June 22, 2010 11:28 PM
Burn the heretic!
Posted by: Ye Olde Blacksmith
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June 23, 2010 2:54 AM
I would be happy to assist in any way that I can. Just click my handle above and you can get my contact info.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 23, 2010 4:44 AM
Trouble is that without the booze it's harder to get the fire going.Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 23, 2010 5:01 AM
He is.And an exceedingly charming and knowledgeable one.
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 23, 2010 5:35 AM
Harrr. B-) Self-protecting heresy!
Posted by: Kel, The Privileged View From Nowhere
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June 23, 2010 7:18 AM
I've got to say that no-one here is how I ever picture them, though I think that's partly that I don't really think visually. It's weird putting faces to commenters, the mystique is almost ruined by seeing them as real people.
You need to all go back to being brains in a vat! (except truth machine because I'm pretty much convinced he is one already)
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 23, 2010 7:39 AM
truth machine did actually once post a link to photo of himself.
Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline.
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June 23, 2010 9:03 AM
Or so he would have us believe.Posted by: windy
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June 23, 2010 6:14 PM
Thirdedfourthed!--
I wouldn't say that, I saw at least as much of him as I saw of you. But... red shirt? Uh oh. I hope he made his flight without being eaten by some local creature (such as Reptilicus)
Posted by: David Marjanović
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June 24, 2010 6:22 AM
So, it's like Godzilla, only with permafrost and without radioactivity?